From an engineering standpoint, that looks like a C-frame press with a hole in the back. The die hole is totally overhanging the two struts or columns, forcing them into leveraged bending stress instead of straight tension. By making the back wide open they've even snatched away the solid compression-bearing part that a normal C-frame would have at the rear. They've created the illusion of an O-frame, but if this press is rigid it is only because it is massive and not because of an inherently rigid design. I guess Richard Lee is correct in saying that normal reloading operations simply do not require much force/strength.
Another great Video. Although I do have the Hornady Ammo Plant I am looking at this setup for my 6.5 Creedmore reloading and Precision reloading set up. keep up the good Reviews. Hate your Intro though.
Just curious. If, God forbid, a primer ignites in the tube, they could all end up igniting. The explosion tube will protect you, but act like a rifle pointed at the ceiling. Are there any worries about anyone in the room above?
Great video Gavin and I was wondering from you which progressive press do you prefer out of the HORNADY LnL AP , Dillon XL 650 and RCBS pro chucker 7. Since u have all of them and thank you buddy.
Great video as always. I'm interested in adding a new single stage press in my reloading room. For my precision ammo for benchrest and PRS. Very interested in this press but can't find any reviews after being used for awhile. What's your thoughts of this press now? I'm also interested in the mec marksman and frankford arsenal m press. In your opinion witch one produces the most precise ammo?
Hi Gavin hope you're having a wonderful holiday season. I went with the Hornady classic deluxe kit. It was a toss-up between this particular kit and the one that I got. I know it's been a couple years since you got the iron press between the two the iron and the classic which one do you prefer and why or do you have no preference and just like both of them ... I'm just wondering I'm stepping into the game of reloading and I'm curious about what you think and your opinion on both of those presses
G'day Gavin. Just wondering if you would still need to calibrate this LnL press the same as the classic with a AP set up? Seen your how to video but nothing so far about the iron press needing a washer etc.
Check the consistency on that Lock and Load scale... I've had bad luck with them.. I think they are junk. I find that they drift really bad. They are very sensitive to minor environmental factors... I went thru 2 scales and then a Hornady Auto charger before I decided I was wasting my time. I tried everything to get consistent results.. I found as much as .5 grain variance, when comparing against 2 other scales.. a beam scale and another electronic scale. So be careful.
I do agree, that you have to be careful operating these scales in close proximity of other electronic devices, i.e. cell phones, possibly radios, etc, but when is the last time you used one? The only reason I ask is most all of these electronic scale manufactures have experienced issues withe electrical noise (EMI). Today the shielding is much better than in the past and I haven't had any issues with mine, which was bought 4 years ago.
Let’s say I decide to start with this single stage kit first than work my way up to a lock n load AP Can I use that powder measure/dispenser with the lock n load AP. I’m pretty mechanically inclined and use to working with micrometers etc should I stick with a single stage or just go ahead and spend the extra bucks on a LNL AP
+alzathoth Different tools for different purposes. If you want to load match-grade ammo, you probably want to load on a single stage. That's not to say that you can't get great accuracy out of progressive-loaded ammo. This kit comes with the loading manual, a precision scale, case lube, ... lots of things the Lock-N-Load AP doesn't come with. The bare Lock-N-Load Iron is about $249 street price...
+alzathoth The LnL is going to deliver great plinking ammo all day but it can't match the consistency, durability and unencumbered leverage that cast iron 'O' style presses deliver. If I get a reloading cave some day, I'll have one of these next to my LnL.
I actually just purchased this kit based on your Unboxing and Review. Keep up the good work.
Great video. I was considering this press when I was looking but ended up going with the classic. Very happy with it.
I'm looking forward to part two. This is the only video I can find for this press. I need more.
From an engineering standpoint, that looks like a C-frame press with a hole in the back. The die hole is totally overhanging the two struts or columns, forcing them into leveraged bending stress instead of straight tension. By making the back wide open they've even snatched away the solid compression-bearing part that a normal C-frame would have at the rear. They've created the illusion of an O-frame, but if this press is rigid it is only because it is massive and not because of an inherently rigid design. I guess Richard Lee is correct in saying that normal reloading operations simply do not require much force/strength.
I agree with your analysis. Looks great when it's not moving - but awkward when it's operational.
You do some of the best videos on RUclips! Thanks for all the work you do.
I've been waiting for this! of course it had to be this channel to have the press first :D
Another excellent video. thanks Gavin.
Nice unboxing!
+guns4funcajanajustin Thanks man!
Like the new Mec loader over this for sure!
Another great Video. Although I do have the Hornady Ammo Plant I am looking at this setup for my 6.5 Creedmore reloading and Precision reloading set up. keep up the good Reviews. Hate your Intro though.
Bit late just bought mine today
Just curious. If, God forbid, a primer ignites in the tube, they could all end up igniting. The explosion tube will protect you, but act like a rifle pointed at the ceiling. Are there any worries about anyone in the room above?
Great video Gavin and I was wondering from you which progressive press do you prefer out of the HORNADY LnL AP , Dillon XL 650 and RCBS pro chucker 7. Since u have all of them and thank you buddy.
Great video as always. I'm interested in adding a new single stage press in my reloading room. For my precision ammo for benchrest and PRS. Very interested in this press but can't find any reviews after being used for awhile. What's your thoughts of this press now? I'm also interested in the mec marksman and frankford arsenal m press. In your opinion witch one produces the most precise ammo?
Hi Gavin hope you're having a wonderful holiday season. I went with the Hornady classic deluxe kit. It was a toss-up between this particular kit and the one that I got. I know it's been a couple years since you got the iron press between the two the iron and the classic which one do you prefer and why or do you have no preference and just like both of them ... I'm just wondering I'm stepping into the game of reloading and I'm curious about what you think and your opinion on both of those presses
Any word when these are going to hit the shelves?
Im a beginner reloader and that kit looks great but $600 is pretty spendy for a single stage.
G'day Gavin. Just wondering if you would still need to calibrate this LnL press the same as the classic with a AP set up? Seen your how to video but nothing so far about the iron press needing a washer etc.
So, would that be a C frame press??
Iron
Check the consistency on that Lock and Load scale... I've had bad luck with them.. I think they are junk. I find that they drift really bad. They are very sensitive to minor environmental factors... I went thru 2 scales and then a Hornady Auto charger before I decided I was wasting my time. I tried everything to get consistent results.. I found as much as .5 grain variance, when comparing against 2 other scales.. a beam scale and another electronic scale. So be careful.
I do agree, that you have to be careful operating these scales in close proximity of other electronic devices, i.e. cell phones, possibly radios, etc, but when is the last time you used one? The only reason I ask is most all of these electronic scale manufactures have experienced issues withe electrical noise (EMI). Today the shielding is much better than in the past and I haven't had any issues with mine, which was bought 4 years ago.
Selggur trust, but verify
Let’s say I decide to start with this single stage kit first than work my way up to a lock n load AP Can I use that powder measure/dispenser with the lock n load AP. I’m pretty mechanically inclined and use to working with micrometers etc should I stick with a single stage or just go ahead and spend the extra bucks on a LNL AP
You can use the powder measure, but you'd have to buy the case activated linkage kit.
About how much does it cost for that kit
Shooting at ISO 26594789659?
why buy a single stage, when you could buy a LnL progressive for almost $100 less? I don't get it.
+alzathoth Different tools for different purposes. If you want to load match-grade ammo, you probably want to load on a single stage. That's not to say that you can't get great accuracy out of progressive-loaded ammo. This kit comes with the loading manual, a precision scale, case lube, ... lots of things the Lock-N-Load AP doesn't come with. The bare Lock-N-Load Iron is about $249 street price...
+alzathoth The LnL is going to deliver great plinking ammo all day but it can't match the consistency, durability and unencumbered leverage that cast iron 'O' style presses deliver. If I get a reloading cave some day, I'll have one of these next to my LnL.
+Skilpadjie1 Forster? never heard of it. people in my area are either red, blue or green. :/
alzathoth
I've heard of them. They're more expensive than other options. That's why they aren't as popular.
Which srews/size do you use for mountig the press on the table?
It really depends on what you are mounting to. I like to use at least 3/8" bolts/nuts/washers.
Gavin, do you have an email address?