Hey Coolguy not sure if this is fixed yet but I've been using ascension with Radient Dance Machines because unlike Strand and Stasis it works infinitely from what I'm aware of. (Again could've been fixed but idk.)
Built this yesterday right after I built the prismatic one, getting that class ability back when running like frostees was on was too tasty to pass up on Arc
Except for the other Hunter exotic, yeah. Hunters have more than enough meme exotics in PvP, making our extra meme aspect (we got stuck with on Prismatic unfortunately) just slightly better is never gonna be worth an exotic slot to me, especially when Jester exists and is better at doing the same thing.
If you equip and use one of the Ergo Sum exotic swords it has a crazy interaction with ascension... Every Ascension causes the jolt, and the effect of the heavy swing of the exotic sword at the same time. (Telesto bolts, Instectoid Robots, Ghorn round, etc.) That works EVERY time you use ascension, and doesn't cost the sword any ammo. SOOOOO, run the RDMs.... and you can then dodge by a target, pull out a sword, and then ascension FOREVER... everytime you use it, it activates the sword heavy swing stuff.. that gets a kill and extends multi-dodge... you can see how this goes.. Fun part of that.. if you get max timer on the multi-dodge perk you can ascension over and over almost to the skybox... lol
I'm a warlock main but have been picking up Hunter a lot lately, meaning I have all the aspects and fragments for their classes, but not the exotics. I SO DESPERATELY WANT RADIANT DANCE MACHINES for gimmicks like this. Thanks for being the inspiration to actually get one!
@@skipventure5158If you reset Rahool you can then focus any exotic you want, old or new. Once you unlock the base exotic focusing (excludes new), focusing will rank up Rahool faster than just redeeming exotics
I've always appreciated your content on its own, and then a higher appreciation for your reviews of weapons and armor pieces because they aren't just 'standard' or thrown together for reviews sake, and often times I find something I didn't expect or know about. This is another one of those times as I was initially just whelmed with this exotic but you've again shown what it's actually capable of at least for PVE. Bonus points for the S tier Wombo Combo reference and hope you're doing well man, keep up the great stuff as always.
I really like using Delicate tomb. Because you won’t even have to reload for a new shot of jolt. Could be bias but I really think all the new aspects should have 3 fragment slots. Gifted conviction has become my favorite hunter exotic of all time, the play style just itches my brain
i farmed exotic engrams pre-tfs to unlock this thing right off the start. saw the amplified defense perk in the artifact and knew i needed it for solo stuff.
I just can't find a way to justify using this exotic in PvE.. the main gimmick is amplify and jolt which are both already completely free to get on arc hunter...
I've been waiting for this one man, thanks for this vid! As a Hunter main who's been using Arc Punchy setups for years, this is SOOOOOOO refreshing. Arc Hunter needed new tools, feels the least diverse of all the Hunter Light subclasses. Like the way you took the build, definitely stoked to try out the Indebted Kindness setup!
Cheers to the legend, Mr Coolguy himself. Sounds like the recovery is staying on an upward trend, and you're just releasing banger after banger after banger. Always fun to watch when you've got so much material to make fun stuff about =) Cheers man, thinking about you for further healing etc etc
I was actually really hoping that Ascension would be a ground-activated ability, but it's actually been super fun to have an "oh shit" button in the back pocket for jumping puzzles or even to chain with the new super for covering huge distances, especially if you've got coyote.
Ascension needs to have a 2nd part where you have a slam attack to follow up a tempest strike or an Ascension twirl. Tempest strike would be a forward wave of energy for a longer distance and Ascension twirl would be a wave of energy in all directions but a shorter diatance. Another cool option would be that it would act as a mini whirlwind guard and relfect damage back out.
“Spark of Beacons: rarely used” I experienced psychic damage with that one. It’s the best part of the Arc kit now that Indebted Kindness exists (plus it works with Heavies now wooo!)
Just tried a build with this in a lost sector 20 levels below the cap. It's decent at times, but the issue is with ascension. The hang time on the ability is way too long and can get you killed rather quickly depending on the enemies. It also doesn't help that you need to be within 10-15m of a target in order to get the resistance. Bungie will have make a slight adjustment either to the hang time, or give a small grace period where enemies won't aim at you while airborne to make this fully viable in endgame content. Otherwise, it's good but quite risky.
Ascension without this exotic is pretty good in pvp especially on prismatic. Not only can you do the grapple skate but also you can use it as an extra jump to go over doorways without exposing yourself
I actually did build into using both tempest and ascension in pve. Build into high strength and I use it to alternate between the two aspects to keep the dr.rolling. Very fun
There is also a trick to using Ascension right now where if you use it right before touching the ground 1 of 2 things can happen based on your timing. You can rise without consuming class ability energy. Or You can use Ascension while remaining grounded without using class ability energy. The latter is pretty useful in PvP for getting Amplify quickly without having to wait to touch the ground again. Can be gotten consistently with practice though will require a feel for it due to the many uneven surfaces in the game. I've had some success in PvP with Ascension + Flow State + Gifted since it makes all your weapons feel amazing with the Amplify Handling boost on top of 60 Reload and 0.8x scalar from Flow State. The bombs are tricky to use but if you learn when to gauge for the right health thresholds you can try to go for it.
Little nugget about Ascension I learned today: If you are holding a crafted sword, any kills with Ascension count as weapon kills for the sword, increasing progression. Didn't seem to work with anything else though
i think the reason why stuff like reaper doesn't activate with the new twirl is perhaps because it comes from a fragment that we get the ability and not a due to it being a new separate class ability itself. It would be like how like if icarus dash took away our class ability instead of a it having a timed cooldown. Maybe they can tweak it to be on a cooldown system like warlock dash or maybe even like how we lose a bit of class energy when we shoulder charge for movement, just make the twirl take out a bigger chunk. *that being said tho, i've noticed stuff like dragons shadow DOES activate with the twirl so maybe its just a lil buggy in general / unclear on interactions
off topic a bit but since you mentioned Beacons, it is such an underrated Fragment. I run it religiously on my Warlock and Hunter with Coldheart or Delicate Tomb. And now in TFS it works with Heavies, Thunderlord or Fine Memorial is an AMAZING pick with it now.
Amplified gives you +50 to mobility and with this build its essentially active all the time so I wouldn't spec more than 50 into mobility. You can also ditch the kickstart utility because you'll get your class ability back in 10ish seconds anyways, you're better off throwing on an arc surge or something along with a font of restoration which gives you +30 recov for added healing capability while you have an armor charge
Tried this now, and it's a really fun build! I feel like utility kickstart is kinda redundant though, as you get your dodge back so fast anyway. I put on two arc surge mods on my legs and change the kickstart mod to reaper and attraction mods instead for those times when I actually dodge normally (to get orbs around me for healing and surges). I run Khovostov, Indebted Kindness (with Voltshot, yeeees) and any arc heavy that you want. Works wonders and is really strong!
Ascension doesn’t proc reaper or powerful attraction because it doesn’t activate/use your class ability/dodge. It instead “consumes” your class ability but replaces it with a different action. It also doesn’t work with bomber, outreach, distribution or even HOIL. It does work with Utility Kickstart though!
So I just tested this build with spark of beacons and the Ergo sum arc conductor sword. the chain lighting kills you get ALSO BLIND TARGETS. pure dopamine
I really hope they fix Ascension soon, so it’ll work with class ability related mods. If it actually worked the way it should, it could be pretty decent outside of just niche builds.
@@rhyshuber9981 fair. Still gonna try it, personally interested in what's weird over what's good. Sometimes that weird stuff becomes good in practiced hands.
@@WollyChaps no I get it. That’s exactly how I played. I put 3k kills on manticore before they nerfed it. Then they nerfed smgs, so the lack of AE and aim assist in the air combined with poor recoil and flinch resistance and the intrinsic damage perk doing almost nothing, it’s just a sure fire way to get yourself killed
Damn, hate when that happens. I used to be more into lion back into the day, but the special changes moved lion meta away from what I was good at. It's nice to see Epicdefender get a ton of success with it and a primary bit it's hard to adapt.
Awesome review! I was reserved on these and chose the Threaded Spectre pants, but these look like it could do damage. Keep up the solid work, man. At the Bombardiers mention, will you be doing a Hazardous Propulsion vs Bombardiers review at some point, by the way? Might not be a long video by any means because HP is tracking and Bombardiers is a bit more tactful, but I’m curious on your thoughts about that.
I used Spark of Beacons with Ex Diris for an Arc Hunter build to pretty nice effect. Very overlooked fragment. Picked this for clearing legend campaign, so gonna give this a go.
As someone who uses this aspect a lot with Blink it actually more often than not makes you blink upward after using Ascension, even when you have some downward momentum. It's very good to save yourself from bad blinks but sometimes blinking just leaves you hanging a bit longer. It let's you get almost anywhere with Blink in PvE as you can Blink twice upward/forward before touching the ground with it since you can Blink both before and after Ascension.
As someone who keeps PvP fresh and fun by getting "silly kills" (Kepri's Horn barricade, Athrys's Embrace knife bounce, throwing hammer bonk, etc.), Gifted Conviction seems like something that would be right up my alley for something in Quickplay or Iron Banner. I don't really care if it gets me killed if it also makes me laugh, but it definitely doesn't seem like something you can use very seriously (Trials or Comp).
8:25 the issue with an arc shatterdive is where do you put it, if you want this ascension / Tempest strike wombo combo it can't be an aspect, can't be a melee coz tempest uses that and can't be class ability coz ascension uses that... like you'd need an exclusive arc grenade on hunter to make it work coz if its an exotic armourpiece that boost ascension to add another move (a shatterdive) you loose out on the funny balls... theres a couple ways to work around it but smh I say forget about it and just give voidhunter a 2 charge melee with spectral blades flavour :>
Yeah, just a follow up like Consecration on titans. You ascend and press the same button again to go down with some cool effect. Maybe a second jolt when you hit the ground, with shorter range to just deal with any enemies right next to you.
I haven't really played with gifted conviction yet but i will. BUT ascension i have and i love it. On prismatic ascension and stylish with radiant dance machines is my go to pve setup and yes i have used this in endgame pve activities and it works well.
I removed the one that recharges your dodge when sprinting. Not only does the dodge come back plenty fast without it, it also removes 10 mobility, so if you're not at 100 mobility removing it will help a bit in getting it back anyway since you will get one more tier of mobility. Same with utility kickstart, not needed at all. I use surge mods instead for more damage on Indebted Kindness (and any arc heavy of your choice). Makes it more viable in harder content too, since you need that damage. Even without the fragment and the kickstart mods you get your dodge back in seconds.
Ever since your Lucky Raspberry video I haven't put it down in PvE. Was heavily impressed by it, but noticed that the protection fragment wasn't always enough resist. Do you think this power creeps lucky raspberry to the point that you're worse off running that instead of this new chestpiece?
you think you could run this on strand hunter/stasis hunter with the trials glaive with voltshot so you could stack woven mail/frost armor, glaive resist, and gifted resist?
I unlocked the exotic as my choice from campaign reward threw it in the vault 😂Time to pull it out and give it a try 👍 I've been having too much fun with Radiant Dance Machine infinite Ascension to try any other new builds. 😂 Also would like to suggest Recuperation over Better Already for pve. We generate so many orbs you are better off with instant 70 health whenever you pick up an orb. Better Already only starts health regen which is canceled/interrupted the moment you take additional damage. It doesnt work like restoration.
This is a very interesting and different play-style. I think this is cool from bungie to provide new ways to play. We don’t have to use the same things all the time
I really hope they fix ascension not rocking class ability use perks, I want to on prismatic use this and proc my radiant dodge. I use it on all my hunter builds tho just cause I like the userbility
I... Really don't think they needed the jolt resist to only be close range. I get that Arcstrider is supposed to be a warrior monk archetype, but if I'm going to be playing a close range class with one of the most broken abilities in the game (combination blow), I'm going to want to leverage the broken ability to play up that fantasy. It's just not enough to actually use the aspects over the combination blow + flow state + whatever the other non-ability-replacement aspect is called because I just get jolt anyway with those and have access to a fundamentally degenerate (i.e. "degenerate strategy") ability loop. It might be worth rocking over assassin's cowl anyway (for me, personally) because invis can be riskier or less consistent, but man they basically *can't* balance arcstrider or prismatic while combination blow exists.
I haven't played in 7 months and I forgot how much I love this exotic I come from console and when playing pvp ppl always fall for my tempest strike even if the balls don't kill unless there's or more guardians but still its amazing in pvp for me at least and I don't use ascension unless it's control.....but the balls could be buffed a lil bit maybe track the target better would be nice
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They have done such a good job with a lot of exotics this expansion
Hey Coolguy not sure if this is fixed yet but I've been using ascension with Radient Dance Machines because unlike Strand and Stasis it works infinitely from what I'm aware of. (Again could've been fixed but idk.)
Built this yesterday right after I built the prismatic one, getting that class ability back when running like frostees was on was too tasty to pass up on Arc
Except for the other Hunter exotic, yeah. Hunters have more than enough meme exotics in PvP, making our extra meme aspect (we got stuck with on Prismatic unfortunately) just slightly better is never gonna be worth an exotic slot to me, especially when Jester exists and is better at doing the same thing.
in-DEBT-ed Kindness, Coolguy.
It's a 'D', not a 'B'.
@@vinyaintheblind8094 Except it's pretty alright? Summoning a bunch of threadlings and making the distraction more distracting are both useful things.
Utility Kickstart works because it reads "when your class ability energy is depleted" not "when you use your class ability"
I wonder why it doesn't use the whole charge
Two balls, on each side
yes. EXACTLY.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
the balls go inside
Jolt is stored in the balls.
Two balls on each side, and you swing your staff down the middle
If you equip and use one of the Ergo Sum exotic swords it has a crazy interaction with ascension... Every Ascension causes the jolt, and the effect of the heavy swing of the exotic sword at the same time. (Telesto bolts, Instectoid Robots, Ghorn round, etc.) That works EVERY time you use ascension, and doesn't cost the sword any ammo. SOOOOO, run the RDMs.... and you can then dodge by a target, pull out a sword, and then ascension FOREVER... everytime you use it, it activates the sword heavy swing stuff.. that gets a kill and extends multi-dodge... you can see how this goes.. Fun part of that.. if you get max timer on the multi-dodge perk you can ascension over and over almost to the skybox... lol
I'm a warlock main but have been picking up Hunter a lot lately, meaning I have all the aspects and fragments for their classes, but not the exotics. I SO DESPERATELY WANT RADIANT DANCE MACHINES for gimmicks like this. Thanks for being the inspiration to actually get one!
@@skipventure5158If you reset Rahool you can then focus any exotic you want, old or new. Once you unlock the base exotic focusing (excludes new), focusing will rank up Rahool faster than just redeeming exotics
Gotta love the other review i saw that said "this exotic is terrible why woulf you ever use this"
Then coolguy comes in n goes "um actually"
"Um, ackshully"
I've always appreciated your content on its own, and then a higher appreciation for your reviews of weapons and armor pieces because they aren't just 'standard' or thrown together for reviews sake, and often times I find something I didn't expect or know about. This is another one of those times as I was initially just whelmed with this exotic but you've again shown what it's actually capable of at least for PVE. Bonus points for the S tier Wombo Combo reference and hope you're doing well man, keep up the great stuff as always.
I really like using Delicate tomb. Because you won’t even have to reload for a new shot of jolt. Could be bias but I really think all the new aspects should have 3 fragment slots. Gifted conviction has become my favorite hunter exotic of all time, the play style just itches my brain
I was not a fan of arc hunter for the longest time, but this married with the gathering storm made it one of my favorite builds of all time
THAT AIN'T FALCO!
OHHHHHHH
i farmed exotic engrams pre-tfs to unlock this thing right off the start. saw the amplified defense perk in the artifact and knew i needed it for solo stuff.
I just can't find a way to justify using this exotic in PvE.. the main gimmick is amplify and jolt which are both already completely free to get on arc hunter...
@@sQuaTsiFieDthe main gimmick is giving you an incredibly high amount of dr more than anything
@@sQuaTsiFieD then you completely missed the point. Damage resistance.
along with the dr, the point is that it provides an alternative to the dodge punch playstyle that gets really boring on arc hunter@@sQuaTsiFieD
I've been waiting for this one man, thanks for this vid! As a Hunter main who's been using Arc Punchy setups for years, this is SOOOOOOO refreshing. Arc Hunter needed new tools, feels the least diverse of all the Hunter Light subclasses. Like the way you took the build, definitely stoked to try out the Indebted Kindness setup!
Cheers to the legend, Mr Coolguy himself. Sounds like the recovery is staying on an upward trend, and you're just releasing banger after banger after banger. Always fun to watch when you've got so much material to make fun stuff about =) Cheers man, thinking about you for further healing etc etc
I was actually really hoping that Ascension would be a ground-activated ability, but it's actually been super fun to have an "oh shit" button in the back pocket for jumping puzzles or even to chain with the new super for covering huge distances, especially if you've got coyote.
Ascension needs to have a 2nd part where you have a slam attack to follow up a tempest strike or an Ascension twirl. Tempest strike would be a forward wave of energy for a longer distance and Ascension twirl would be a wave of energy in all directions but a shorter diatance. Another cool option would be that it would act as a mini whirlwind guard and relfect damage back out.
That would be so fucking dope. Not only would it make it more viable in pvp, but it would just feel really nice.
“Spark of Beacons: rarely used”
I experienced psychic damage with that one. It’s the best part of the Arc kit now that Indebted Kindness exists (plus it works with Heavies now wooo!)
As soon as the pvp section hits I see The Last Word gameplay and I immediately know "someone in his game made a mistake" 😂
Just tried a build with this in a lost sector 20 levels below the cap. It's decent at times, but the issue is with ascension. The hang time on the ability is way too long and can get you killed rather quickly depending on the enemies. It also doesn't help that you need to be within 10-15m of a target in order to get the resistance. Bungie will have make a slight adjustment either to the hang time, or give a small grace period where enemies won't aim at you while airborne to make this fully viable in endgame content. Otherwise, it's good but quite risky.
Ascension without this exotic is pretty good in pvp especially on prismatic. Not only can you do the grapple skate but also you can use it as an extra jump to go over doorways without exposing yourself
I actually did build into using both tempest and ascension in pve. Build into high strength and I use it to alternate between the two aspects to keep the dr.rolling. Very fun
There is also a trick to using Ascension right now where if you use it right before touching the ground 1 of 2 things can happen based on your timing.
You can rise without consuming class ability energy.
Or
You can use Ascension while remaining grounded without using class ability energy.
The latter is pretty useful in PvP for getting Amplify quickly without having to wait to touch the ground again. Can be gotten consistently with practice though will require a feel for it due to the many uneven surfaces in the game.
I've had some success in PvP with Ascension + Flow State + Gifted since it makes all your weapons feel amazing with the Amplify Handling boost on top of 60 Reload and 0.8x scalar from Flow State. The bombs are tricky to use but if you learn when to gauge for the right health thresholds you can try to go for it.
The aspect class ability works with wraith mail on dragons shadow so you can get amplified and the exotics perk in one input
Little nugget about Ascension I learned today: If you are holding a crafted sword, any kills with Ascension count as weapon kills for the sword, increasing progression. Didn't seem to work with anything else though
Excellent vid as always! Would love to see some of your DIM builds with these setups.
Agreed, a follow-up slam on ascension would be beautiful (but potentially broken in PVP).
was Solo Farming with this in the Master NightFall this week & was VERY VERY Pleasantly surprised, it fits into a few FUN EndGame Builds ⚡️⚡️🎮🎮✌🏽✌🏽
i think the reason why stuff like reaper doesn't activate with the new twirl is perhaps because it comes from a fragment that we get the ability and not a due to it being a new separate class ability itself. It would be like how like if icarus dash took away our class ability instead of a it having a timed cooldown. Maybe they can tweak it to be on a cooldown system like warlock dash or maybe even like how we lose a bit of class energy when we shoulder charge for movement, just make the twirl take out a bigger chunk.
*that being said tho, i've noticed stuff like dragons shadow DOES activate with the twirl so maybe its just a lil buggy in general / unclear on interactions
off topic a bit but since you mentioned Beacons, it is such an underrated Fragment. I run it religiously on my Warlock and Hunter with Coldheart or Delicate Tomb. And now in TFS it works with Heavies, Thunderlord or Fine Memorial is an AMAZING pick with it now.
Crazy how almost every build I see from content creators this season revolves around hunters and warlocks …Titans definitely need some love
Amplified gives you +50 to mobility and with this build its essentially active all the time so I wouldn't spec more than 50 into mobility. You can also ditch the kickstart utility because you'll get your class ability back in 10ish seconds anyways, you're better off throwing on an arc surge or something along with a font of restoration which gives you +30 recov for added healing capability while you have an armor charge
Been waiting for someone to figure this exotic out.
.jump and die was how it workd for me
Thanks for gettin nerdy with it buddy
Tried this now, and it's a really fun build! I feel like utility kickstart is kinda redundant though, as you get your dodge back so fast anyway. I put on two arc surge mods on my legs and change the kickstart mod to reaper and attraction mods instead for those times when I actually dodge normally (to get orbs around me for healing and surges). I run Khovostov, Indebted Kindness (with Voltshot, yeeees) and any arc heavy that you want. Works wonders and is really strong!
Ascension doesn’t proc reaper or powerful attraction because it doesn’t activate/use your class ability/dodge. It instead “consumes” your class ability but replaces it with a different action. It also doesn’t work with bomber, outreach, distribution or even HOIL. It does work with Utility Kickstart though!
@@WStormbornyep exactly. No redundancy on kickstart mods when they’re basically the only ones that actually do anything
Arc Hunter really leaves a lot to be desired with how one note its been for years.
Hey now, they've put prismatic in so you can Rolly punchy on a second subclass!
My only problem with this is that arc doesn’t have a descend downwards options and this move takes you really high up in the air 😅
Just tried it out in iron banner on arc and it went way better than i expected.
I have a feeding frenzy/ voltshot glaive from trials that I'd love to try with this!
So I just tested this build with spark of beacons and the Ergo sum arc conductor sword. the chain lighting kills you get ALSO BLIND TARGETS. pure dopamine
This is one of my favorite PvE builds right now
That wombo combo reference was golden😂
I really hope they fix Ascension soon, so it’ll work with class ability related mods. If it actually worked the way it should, it could be pretty decent outside of just niche builds.
Ascension getting you into the air for that weird void SMG is something i wanted to try out on prismatic.
Manticore is awful. Tried it. Saving yourself the time
@@rhyshuber9981 fair. Still gonna try it, personally interested in what's weird over what's good. Sometimes that weird stuff becomes good in practiced hands.
@@WollyChaps no I get it. That’s exactly how I played. I put 3k kills on manticore before they nerfed it. Then they nerfed smgs, so the lack of AE and aim assist in the air combined with poor recoil and flinch resistance and the intrinsic damage perk doing almost nothing, it’s just a sure fire way to get yourself killed
Damn, hate when that happens. I used to be more into lion back into the day, but the special changes moved lion meta away from what I was good at. It's nice to see Epicdefender get a ton of success with it and a primary bit it's hard to adapt.
@@WollyChaps yeah even even you run two helmet mods, 2 unflinching, and peacekeepers it still feels awful
What’s the green shader on the armor?
New eververse strand one
I think blink could be great with the twirl in pvp because you can throw people off and get to the floor faster
Arcstrider, Radiant Dance Machines
Tempest Strike/Ascension
Sparks: Resistance, Focus, Ions, Amplitude
Awesome review! I was reserved on these and chose the Threaded Spectre pants, but these look like it could do damage. Keep up the solid work, man.
At the Bombardiers mention, will you be doing a Hazardous Propulsion vs Bombardiers review at some point, by the way? Might not be a long video by any means because HP is tracking and Bombardiers is a bit more tactful, but I’m curious on your thoughts about that.
bro what shader is that????
I used Spark of Beacons with Ex Diris for an Arc Hunter build to pretty nice effect. Very overlooked fragment. Picked this for clearing legend campaign, so gonna give this a go.
On one hand I am happy about not being reliant on punching and rolling. On the other hand, being stuck in the air in any game mode sounds terrifying.
That wombo combo callout had me dying 😂
Aspect is more fun than I thought it would be, my only gripe is that I feel like it takes you way too high
"Happy feet wombo combo"😂 i fell out
I'd recommend using beacons with cold heart! Its crazy!
The SSBM reference goes FUCKIN HARD! IF U KNOW U KNOW!
I think ascension sends us way too high in the sky. It's feels really awkward
Absolutely my fav hunter pve exotic on prismatic since it came out.
Cold heart is a great choice too!! Traces for days and solid damage. I’m sure voltshot kindness is better but I don’t have it either.
great video, really makes me want to try this now
Even though this one is kinda ass, it's great to see you making PvP builds!
Nobody makes PvP builds like you do, they're appreciated!
Did you try Ascension with blink? In pvp. I think you could get back to the ground faster. I haven't tried it though 🤷
As someone who uses this aspect a lot with Blink it actually more often than not makes you blink upward after using Ascension, even when you have some downward momentum. It's very good to save yourself from bad blinks but sometimes blinking just leaves you hanging a bit longer.
It let's you get almost anywhere with Blink in PvE as you can Blink twice upward/forward before touching the ground with it since you can Blink both before and after Ascension.
I've been thinking the arc Ergo Sum sword might be a good pair for this, especially if your doing arc blind.
As someone who keeps PvP fresh and fun by getting "silly kills" (Kepri's Horn barricade, Athrys's Embrace knife bounce, throwing hammer bonk, etc.), Gifted Conviction seems like something that would be right up my alley for something in Quickplay or Iron Banner. I don't really care if it gets me killed if it also makes me laugh, but it definitely doesn't seem like something you can use very seriously (Trials or Comp).
8:25 the issue with an arc shatterdive is where do you put it, if you want this ascension / Tempest strike wombo combo it can't be an aspect, can't be a melee coz tempest uses that and can't be class ability coz ascension uses that... like you'd need an exclusive arc grenade on hunter to make it work coz if its an exotic armourpiece that boost ascension to add another move (a shatterdive) you loose out on the funny balls... theres a couple ways to work around it but smh
I say forget about it and just give voidhunter a 2 charge melee with spectral blades flavour :>
Maybe a follow up attack after the spin that activates with a second button press like the grapple melee. just something to change your momentum
Yeah, just a follow up like Consecration on titans. You ascend and press the same button again to go down with some cool effect. Maybe a second jolt when you hit the ground, with shorter range to just deal with any enemies right next to you.
I haven't really played with gifted conviction yet but i will. BUT ascension i have and i love it. On prismatic ascension and stylish with radiant dance machines is my go to pve setup and yes i have used this in endgame pve activities and it works well.
6:00, this makes the indebted look like its a godamn exotic ;-;... i've run this fragment with cold heart but dear god
What would you swap out to accommodate spark of beacons? Instinct / haste / resistance/ focus? Thanks!
looks interesting for solo stuff but i'm skeptical needing to be within 15-20m to be able to get the DR will hold up well in GM content
They need to make an ornament that turns these into fallen bouncy mines
what if I told you it's counts as weapon dmagae and surges boost it AND TNEN I TOLD YOU if you hold out ergo sums it procs the swords exotic perk
Edge of Concurrence is insanely good with this
What is that green strand looking shader never seen that one before
What is that shader @4:26 👀👀⁉️⁉️
I think it is the one that's part of a pack of 4?
strand shader only for silver... for now...
i run Arby, Indebted Kindness, Goldtusk with the Conviction. ANIME AF, and 100% champ coverage. Blind helps you on higher difficulties
are you going to show case a: winter's shroud + threaded specter + bombadiers prismatic build? Or is it better on paper than in practice?
Radiant dance machines work with ascension
What fragment would you remove if using a voltshot special weapon?
I removed the one that recharges your dodge when sprinting. Not only does the dodge come back plenty fast without it, it also removes 10 mobility, so if you're not at 100 mobility removing it will help a bit in getting it back anyway since you will get one more tier of mobility. Same with utility kickstart, not needed at all. I use surge mods instead for more damage on Indebted Kindness (and any arc heavy of your choice). Makes it more viable in harder content too, since you need that damage. Even without the fragment and the kickstart mods you get your dodge back in seconds.
Does ergo sum work ?
Idk man I use Spark of Beacons all the time with the Mothlauncher + Mothkeepers. It’s my go-to Arc build and it feels great
Ever since your Lucky Raspberry video I haven't put it down in PvE. Was heavily impressed by it, but noticed that the protection fragment wasn't always enough resist. Do you think this power creeps lucky raspberry to the point that you're worse off running that instead of this new chestpiece?
I wonder if you can pair ergo sum and have someone using a healing frame gun and heal from cover
you think you could run this on strand hunter/stasis hunter with the trials glaive with voltshot so you could stack woven mail/frost armor, glaive resist, and gifted resist?
I unlocked the exotic as my choice from campaign reward threw it in the vault 😂Time to pull it out and give it a try 👍 I've been having too much fun with Radiant Dance Machine infinite Ascension to try any other new builds. 😂
Also would like to suggest Recuperation over Better Already for pve. We generate so many orbs you are better off with instant 70 health whenever you pick up an orb. Better Already only starts health regen which is canceled/interrupted the moment you take additional damage. It doesnt work like restoration.
This is a very interesting and different play-style. I think this is cool from bungie to provide new ways to play. We don’t have to use the same things all the time
Can you use coyote, since it has built in reaper, does that work? Edit: im just wondering if that baked in reaper forces an orb to happen.
I’d love me some DIM links. Great vids and insight
I really hope they fix ascension not rocking class ability use perks, I want to on prismatic use this and proc my radiant dodge. I use it on all my hunter builds tho just cause I like the userbility
Ok I’m gonna try this build later
What’s this crazy green shader?
That last clip lol
Idk if you guys can help me, but do most players go with Icarus grip over targeting adjuster on hand cannons?
Accession+dance machines=helihunter
I... Really don't think they needed the jolt resist to only be close range. I get that Arcstrider is supposed to be a warrior monk archetype, but if I'm going to be playing a close range class with one of the most broken abilities in the game (combination blow), I'm going to want to leverage the broken ability to play up that fantasy. It's just not enough to actually use the aspects over the combination blow + flow state + whatever the other non-ability-replacement aspect is called because I just get jolt anyway with those and have access to a fundamentally degenerate (i.e. "degenerate strategy") ability loop. It might be worth rocking over assassin's cowl anyway (for me, personally) because invis can be riskier or less consistent, but man they basically *can't* balance arcstrider or prismatic while combination blow exists.
Instead of tumbling around using melee, you're using your tumble as a big melee.
The "I'm not like the other arc hunter builds"
You just gave me an idea and if this works im bout to have so much fun in pvp😂
Resist & Blind? Nah, Resist & Bite.
Spark of Beacons used to be Heavy only I think. So much better now.
Nope, it was only Special and didn't also include Heavy.
I haven't played in 7 months and I forgot how much I love this exotic I come from console and when playing pvp ppl always fall for my tempest strike even if the balls don't kill unless there's or more guardians but still its amazing in pvp for me at least and I don't use ascension unless it's control.....but the balls could be buffed a lil bit maybe track the target better would be nice
"the balls go inside"
What's actually awkward is using a strand shader on an arc subclass... D: Great stuff tho! :D
😂😂😂 Thank you! I needed another laugh, and this looks as fun as the calibombo 😉
Tempest strike.. ayo?
Cerberus +1 rework?