The problem here is the soft sand and road tires that's bogs the tires because of the weight of the car. Even a proper 4x4 would have a problem here. Getting mud treads would definitely help however, in this case, a lighter 4x4 such as a Suzuki Samaria or Jimmy would definitely climb the highest because of how lightweight and nimble it is.
With AWD, you stay on the gas! Don't back off the microsecond you lose traction. The AWD system needs time to find traction to the wheels with more grip.
We were trying to show, how awd systems perform in equal situation. And how awful fwd and rwd cars are in the same conditions. The surface was very soft, but I couldn’t find better place.
Good 4WD comparison video of different vehicles, considering they all start at the same spot at the bottom of the hill and they all have stock/factory tires.
You are lucky I live in a place where sometimes you really do have to make your own road to get home if the dirt roads you normally drive on are flooded or there was a mudslide which happens a lot....
you guys keep running the same spot that its literally sinking down over half a foot, some of the smaller car are going to get lifted from the frame and wont be able to accelerate forward due to the wheels not making contact with the dirt. try a different spot for each car since the dirt is soft that way everyone gets the same effect
Anton Ni the subaru should have the best result in such condition. i think the ranger is impossible. also depending on the tire of the car. ranger have bigger treads than the rest.
This test is testing the off road skills of the drivers not the off road capability of single car of those involved in the test, who failed in the test.
Good test guys i drive a awd tucson and never got it stuck ove the years. I just bought 2wd sportage and now i am crying lol. Last time tested the tucson it was upward climb 30% and no problem but i do have mud tyrs on it and had a longer start on level before climb. I know i should have bought another tucson but 10 years old now and dont have money to buy new 4wd.
Субару рулит :) Но лучше на механике и с центральной принудительной блокировкой, как на универсалах. Аутбэки шли в основном на автомате с перераспределением момента в муфте.
Nissan Terrano had MUD wheels, but problem with central dif lockup. Ford Ranger, Subaru Outback and Audi Allroad stuck almost in the same place. We are still looking for 30-35 degrees slope with hard surface.
I need some opinions here. I have a 2008 impreza, I have been to the beach in soft sand and felt all wheels turning and the car pulled through. Couple nights ago I pulled on to a wet lawn, sunk bout 4 inches in soft mud, but my rear tyres never turned while trying to get out. I have to try that scenario again... but till then any opinions?
ok folks... I apologize for my foolishness... I was under the impression all Subarus are AWD, apparently they are not... mine is a FWD :( In my defense, in my research I found that I am not the only one who thought this...
Would have been interesting to see what a true off-road type vehicle would have done here. Something like a Jeep Wrangler, especially the Rubicon version, or a Land Rver Defender, for instance.
All depends on tires but on on the brand. Rubicon is a good car with all locks but is for gentle use, coz signal wires to differential locks are very thin and unprotected. Also the ground was very soft and the test was focused to see the differences between brands, and as expected Audi and Subaru are the best ones between awd. If we had Defender or any other off road legend we would definitely show it , but unfortunately we don't have any.
For goodness sake it will be failure because of doing the same test with the same factors attached to. like same trail , inexperienced driver etc.. i bet subaru and the genuine 4wd can surpass this if had not taken the same trail.
Awd is front wheel drive with a clutch to the rear wheels which is electronically controlled. 4x4 is mechanical drive train layout. It is a true and constant all wheel drive system.
There are different types of AWD systems. Anton is referring to the haldex type AWD systems, which are the most common. Audi and Subaru use more full-time AWD systems. 4x4s are often 2wd until you actively engage the 4wd modes.
and 4wd without locking differentials will only give 1 wheel spinning in front and 1 wheel in the rear. AWD systems use locking and open differentials depending on the car and sometimes will offer torque vectoring and such which will allow the ground wheel to grip even if the other 3 are spinning. to do this in a 4x4, you would need front and rear diff lockers installed in your differential.
OscarWithC for one, NONE of AWD systems that I know of, has a low range. Subarus that came with LOW RANGE, were 4wd, not awd. Thats one very important feature that comes on some more expensive 4x4, torque multiplying for steep uphill or downhill climbs.Thats why Subarus are soft offroaders. It's just as capable as any 4x4 till you need a low range. In Subaru both axles are powered ALL the time. Whether you are doing 5mph or 165mph in STI. IN regular AWD systems, only one axle is powered the other one is freewheeling, until there is a slippage and then clutches engage the driveshaft for the rear axle. Lack of that delay is what makes Subaru so capable. But you pay for that in fuel economy, sort of. These days they use smaller lighter pistons to offset awd. So the engine will knock and ping like a motherfucker till it warms up, and they still get 23-25mpg out of a 4cyl midsize car. Thats like a V6 territory. Honda Accord 2wd V6 will get 23mpg. But Honda uses regular pistons. Subaru pistons are moving around in the engine, making a clunking noise till they expand enough. It's all done for fuel economy.
It quite unfair that the Ford Ranger is better due to its larger and wider tires. If give the Subaru the same wheel size and better tires, Subaru definitely will climb further.
+Anton Ni The first one got max advantage cause every next car makes the holes deeper (idk english is not my native) and you drive exactly in the holes.If some of the drivers tried to climb it from the smooth side (maybe bit to the right )they could reach higher.So they are bad drivers.
Actually. it has a lot to do with tires. Road tires do shit all on soft dirt like this, even worse when they're low profile. 4x4 tires, whether AT/R, MT/R, S/R or anything else, are quite often a lot wider, and always has deeper tread. 4x4 tires can run at pressures far below road tires, therefore giving even more traction. So lets say, I take a 4x4 with AT/R's up the hill sitting on 40psi, I would get further than this bunch did. If I take it down the 20psi (Which is what I usually run while off road), I could almost double that distance.
of course the sportage didnt spin all four wheels it doesnt even have 4x4 or even a limited slip diff for that matter!! learn ya shit before you hate on a video which looks like some fun
+Jay Man My old custom van would have beat all those. It has good limited slip in the front and locker in the rear. I would have used my good AT tires with low air pressure. This test fails to take into account any important variables like tires and tire pressure which totally invalidates the test.
anyone heard of central dif lock+rear/front dif lock?....assholes with craply designed cars,take a look at a lada niva..or an old mercedes benz offroad car and be amazed what an all-dif lock can do.
To the ranger, Hilux, allroad, And outback driver. Ranger, please put in low range lock the rear differential and don't let go off the gas pedal. Hilux, do the same as ranger. Allroad, put it on low range (yes, the first generation allroad has one) and keep the throttle and if you fail try turning off your traction control and ESP. Outback, do the same as allroad but sadly you don't have low range. The others are crap
First of all , get some real drivers. I have a #7 and that was a pitful attempt at a hill climb. Idle speed up a hill until it stops is not a real test.
The problem here is the soft sand and road tires that's bogs the tires because of the weight of the car. Even a proper 4x4 would have a problem here. Getting mud treads would definitely help however, in this case, a lighter 4x4 such as a Suzuki Samaria or Jimmy would definitely climb the highest because of how lightweight and nimble it is.
With AWD, you stay on the gas! Don't back off the microsecond you lose traction. The AWD system needs time to find traction to the wheels with more grip.
Donny803 My rwd can do better, if I put on the handbrake as a lock diff.
Pretty sure this test was done to see how they would do without momentum. Since nobody accelerated quickly from the bottom
Pretty sure this test was done to see how they would do without momentum. Since nobody accelerated quickly from the bottom
We were trying to show, how awd systems perform in equal situation. And how awful fwd and rwd cars are in the same conditions. The surface was very soft, but I couldn’t find better place.
Good 4WD comparison video of different vehicles, considering they all start at the same spot at the bottom of the hill and they all have stock/factory tires.
Subaru FTW
the ford won. did ur Sexually Transmitted Infection infect ur brain?
Yes, it has mulfunction in 4x4 mode
I am so glad that there are roads where I live so it doesn't take me trying different vehicles to see which one can actually get me home....
You are lucky I live in a place where sometimes you really do have to make your own road to get home if the dirt roads you normally drive on are flooded or there was a mudslide which happens a lot....
I thought only the Canadian 4 gen Maximas could be optioned with an lsd. Still quite rare. Lucky owner.
I also believe that tires play an important role god bless
Adolfo Barragan Delgado you are absolutely right. But I think it is more weight: awd: tyres:
Bring in the g wagon.Its gonna prove why they are so expensive.
you guys keep running the same spot that its literally sinking down over half a foot, some of the smaller car are going to get lifted from the frame and wont be able to accelerate forward due to the wheels not making contact with the dirt. try a different spot for each car since the dirt is soft that way everyone gets the same effect
The allroad and outback have a lot of ground clearance. Nothing was dragging on those cars.
Nice play.
subaru the best
yep, Subaru has the best weight to awd capability
SUBARU POWWAAAA
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I bet the new Subaru or any Toyota Land Cruiser will not be able to climb better then these.
The conditions were really hard.
Anton Ni the subaru should have the best result in such condition. i think the ranger is impossible. also depending on the tire of the car. ranger have bigger treads than the rest.
yes
u know the ford won right?
no mitsubishi strada triton? L200 ?
This test is testing the off road skills of the drivers not the off road capability of single car of those involved in the test, who failed in the test.
Subaru power
+Saturdays Beats Subaru it is almost the best vehicle in the current price range.
2 things u only need for an off rosd vehicle may it be a 4x4 or 4x2 is a high ground clearance and locking differential.
momentum and common sense go a very long way
Good test guys i drive a awd tucson and never got it stuck ove the years. I just bought 2wd sportage and now i am crying lol. Last time tested the tucson it was upward climb 30% and no problem but i do have mud tyrs on it and had a longer start on level before climb. I know i should have bought another tucson but 10 years old now and dont have money to buy new 4wd.
This is the worst test I have ever seen. That Toyota Tacoma probably would have done very well if it didn't have BALD street tires.
yep. he also hit it the slowest..way slower than anyone else.
Russ H. Exactly spot on it is the shittest test ever!
Субару рулит :) Но лучше на механике и с центральной принудительной блокировкой, как на универсалах. Аутбэки шли в основном на автомате с перераспределением момента в муфте.
driving through the same ruts that other cars deepend and loosened up = dumb, no offroad skills
We speak Russian in the video )))
Nissan Terrano had MUD wheels, but problem with central dif lockup. Ford Ranger, Subaru Outback and Audi Allroad stuck almost in the same place. We are still looking for 30-35 degrees slope with hard surface.
the subie ruled as a car & not a truck,,,a dirt needle,,, slim
I need some opinions here. I have a 2008 impreza, I have been to the beach in soft sand and felt all wheels turning and the car pulled through. Couple nights ago I pulled on to a wet lawn, sunk bout 4 inches in soft mud, but my rear tyres never turned while trying to get out. I have to try that scenario again... but till then any opinions?
could be a blown fuse for the rwd mate
ok folks... I apologize for my foolishness... I was under the impression all Subarus are AWD, apparently they are not... mine is a FWD :( In my defense, in my research I found that I am not the only one who thought this...
Visesh Lall as far as i know FW subarus are only 1.5 l. Engine imprezas.
Anton Ni Yeah, mine is a 1.5, but it was a rushed buy, did not do the research I normally do, but I still think I might have missed this, oh well...
Visesh Lall next time to see if it is awd. Lay on the ground and look for the shafts to the wheels and differencial.
Let me bring my Corsa B GSI and I'll get up that hill no probs!
Correct tires are very important.
For sure
I like awd
that looks a lot steeper than 26 degrees
Try a G-class if it can't climb it then no one could, 3 locking differentials aren't a joke, well, and get better drivers.
My Acura RL would make it. Just gun it!!
Lol Kia so much failed this test
thats all u represent for 4x4 man u should represent a real truck!
....tires being the main factor here
ford
Would have been interesting to see what a true off-road type vehicle would have done here. Something like a Jeep Wrangler, especially the Rubicon version, or a Land Rver Defender, for instance.
All depends on tires but on on the brand. Rubicon is a good car with all locks but is for gentle use, coz signal wires to differential locks are very thin and unprotected. Also the ground was very soft and the test was focused to see the differences between brands, and as expected Audi and Subaru are the best ones between awd. If we had Defender or any other off road legend we would definitely show it , but unfortunately we don't have any.
try a suzuki jimny or sierra
All of them need better tires.
Nahh.. all of them need better road
They chose to do it the hard way
subaru
Ford*
Call Lada Niva :D
Bring Lada Niva and it will make it.
+Dusan Stevanovic niva is great, due to its light weight and 4x4 for surr
None of these vehicles have large enough tires, and the proper traction.
For goodness sake it will be failure because of doing the same test with the same factors attached to. like same trail , inexperienced driver etc.. i bet subaru and the genuine 4wd can surpass this if had not taken the same trail.
غريب ولا واحد ركب ..غير على الدبل الثقيل وجرب في الثالث
i advise using a panda 4x4
+Gozz PropZ that i would genuinely like to see,and a discovery,lada, susuki and volvo xc make it more fun everyones invited yah
а где это место? горка такая?
слава лаптев в Караганде, между Приханом и Макеном
fail!! not a fair test .. cars were bottoming
how much money have you made on this video
+Casper 2015 100$ in total ))) I am very excited and couldn't even imagine that
For a guy in an allroad is the first day driving??? :)
LOOOLLL!
Was the Sportage not given enough gas? There wasn't any wheel spin, or was it interfered by traction control?
i think the right rear wheel was spinnin
I think it has a bad four wheel drive system that should be the problem
+Lukas G it was FWD dummy
Okay, don't drive in the deep tire tracks and give it more throttle from the bottom of the hill and I bet the AWD cars would go further.
did the terrano even try
+tom hull terrano unfortunately had front axle failure. So it was a RWD at that time
+tom hull but in other situation it is the winner. 4x4 and mud tires :)
the kia was pathetic. Was it an open diff?
+Nzo D-K Not only was it open diff, it was front wheel drive.
+Nzo D-K it's a kia, what do you expect?
+Trevar Ladd alot
So no car could do it, why you filmed this then?!
Yay mud terrain tyres win? Shit test!
try this with a lada niva, i think it should work better
whats is the difference betwen AWD and 4x4? aint both four wheel drive????
Awd is front wheel drive with a clutch to the rear wheels which is electronically controlled. 4x4 is mechanical drive train layout. It is a true and constant all wheel drive system.
There are different types of AWD systems. Anton is referring to the haldex type AWD systems, which are the most common. Audi and Subaru use more full-time AWD systems. 4x4s are often 2wd until you actively engage the 4wd modes.
Joshua Mercado I didn't go deep in details in order not to be too complicated. but, yes you are right
and 4wd without locking differentials will only give 1 wheel spinning in front and 1 wheel in the rear. AWD systems use locking and open differentials depending on the car and sometimes will offer torque vectoring and such which will allow the ground wheel to grip even if the other 3 are spinning. to do this in a 4x4, you would need front and rear diff lockers installed in your differential.
OscarWithC for one, NONE of AWD systems that I know of, has a low range. Subarus that came with LOW RANGE, were 4wd, not awd. Thats one very important feature that comes on some more expensive 4x4, torque multiplying for steep uphill or downhill climbs.Thats why Subarus are soft offroaders. It's just as capable as any 4x4 till you need a low range. In Subaru both axles are powered ALL the time. Whether you are doing 5mph or 165mph in STI. IN regular AWD systems, only one axle is powered the other one is freewheeling, until there is a slippage and then clutches engage the driveshaft for the rear axle. Lack of that delay is what makes Subaru so capable. But you pay for that in fuel economy, sort of. These days they use smaller lighter pistons to offset awd. So the engine will knock and ping like a motherfucker till it warms up, and they still get 23-25mpg out of a 4cyl midsize car. Thats like a V6 territory. Honda Accord 2wd V6 will get 23mpg. But Honda uses regular pistons. Subaru pistons are moving around in the engine, making a clunking noise till they expand enough. It's all done for fuel economy.
Take my jeep Cherokee right up that hill with awd
It quite unfair that the Ford Ranger is better due to its larger and wider tires. If give the Subaru the same wheel size and better tires, Subaru definitely will climb further.
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SpIRiTus1995 are you that simpleton?
*****
No and you ?
SpIRiTus1995 Not a simpleton. But you are stupid.
*****
You are even stupider for not understanding a joke.
So yes "simpleton"
The Legendary KIA Sportage.. hahahahhaa
Land rover defender!!!!!!
Goin to slow for one
This all has to do with tires.
U r right, the purpose was to see what is better in real common life.
+Anton Ni The first one got max advantage cause every next car makes the holes deeper (idk english is not my native) and you drive exactly in the holes.If some of the drivers tried to climb it from the smooth side (maybe bit to the right )they could reach higher.So they are bad drivers.
+josephboot1 no it has more to do with power to weight ratio, 4wd low and posi/trac lock
Actually. it has a lot to do with tires. Road tires do shit all on soft dirt like this, even worse when they're low profile.
4x4 tires, whether AT/R, MT/R, S/R or anything else, are quite often a lot wider, and always has deeper tread. 4x4 tires can run at pressures far below road tires, therefore giving even more traction.
So lets say, I take a 4x4 with AT/R's up the hill sitting on 40psi, I would get further than this bunch did.
If I take it down the 20psi (Which is what I usually run while off road), I could almost double that distance.
Nothing to do with power to weight, it's all to do with traction. By the way, traction control doesn't help in this situation.
Tyres setting you back :-)if theses had better tyres they would go further.
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of course the sportage didnt spin all four wheels it doesnt even have 4x4 or even a limited slip diff for that matter!! learn ya shit before you hate on a video which looks like some fun
летом приеду, покажу вам класс на своём бегемотике рено меган 2 :)
no car, on slippery surface, will climb. simple fact.
***** and not trying to fight an already rutted out trail
***** for sure it could. All cars had normal asphalt tires. So we were just judging the AWD and 4x4 and FWD capabilities
Только Audi 2001 г.в. :-)
А так отлично провели время. :-)
The allroad made it up the furthest. Once again Audi(german) beats world in cars. Was stopped by the deep holes the ford left behind.
+Jay Man My old custom van would have beat all those. It has good limited slip in the front and locker in the rear. I would have used my good AT tires with low air pressure.
This test fails to take into account any important variables like tires and tire pressure which totally invalidates the test.
Too bad the audi won and yet saying the Ford did. Not close. Look at your video
Jay Man Not my video. If it was I would be able to tell who won. As it is the camera is all over the place and the stakes are not marked.
anyone heard of central dif lock+rear/front dif lock?....assholes with craply designed cars,take a look at a lada niva..or an old mercedes benz offroad car and be amazed what an all-dif lock can do.
Nissan terrano hell no thats a nissan Mistral
genmaxpain it depends on the region. In fact it is the same car
To the ranger, Hilux, allroad, And outback driver. Ranger, please put in low range lock the rear differential and don't let go off the gas pedal. Hilux, do the same as ranger. Allroad, put it on low range (yes, the first generation allroad has one) and keep the throttle and if you fail try turning off your traction control and ESP. Outback, do the same as allroad but sadly you don't have low range. The others are crap
Outback has low range on mechanical transmission. These Hilux and Ranger don't have rear lock.
Stubbed drivers Subaru can make it
In the sand you DONT NEED tires.....need to play with accelerator!!
Stavros S Your not going anywhere without tires.
Só tem notórias ruins kkk👊🇧🇷
so a tucson performed better than a hilux and a máxima better than a terrano, u serious😱?
Ford for the win...no fancy electronics there...and destroyed the garbage hilux. Sub I did sweet aswell
The problem is not the cars, the problem is the asphalt sand way.
America ftw
These dudes don't have ideas on different capabilities of Tires.
First of all , get some real drivers. I have a #7 and that was a pitful attempt at a hill climb. Idle speed up a hill until it stops is not a real test.
Brutuszilla thats the point of the test. NO MOMENTUM. It shows which is system is better. Honda civic would climb that hill at 7omph
this video needs a jeep to show them all how its done.
your gay. jeeps rule best things to drive ever
yes yes they are
sportage 👎
Kia :D
Push more gas and move the steering wheel this test sucks
So much disrespect towards the hilux
Unfortunately it was Arab Hilux, without rear dif lock.
audi powwa
EASY, Just get a defender TDi
No Jeep? I bet a 4x4 Jeep or Land Rover could make it.
Seems to be the same stupid driver trying all those cars
AUDI NEED OFF ESP!
Worst test ever?
What you need is a hummer.
Fwd sucks
Subarus are so overrated
Tucson better than the hilux lol