Update: I printed some more of the split brush holders without a skirt - they printed fine, with no cleanup required! I also tested it with half as many magnets and it seems plenty strong enough.
In the opening minutes of your video. I am very impressed with the care and attention you took to make your design usable for others. Explaining how to adjust the parameters and especially making multiple stl sizes available was super thoughtful towards others. You definitely went above and beyond!
Thank you for sharing, the Fusion 360 files. I have just started with an ATC tool changer and indeed the brush is in the way, I will definitely print it and see if it works for me. Thanks for all your work and sharing your knowledge.
It's very thoughtful and kind of you to share your Fusion 360 files. I modified the files to fit my homebuild cnc router. Thank you very much and great success to your business!
. @CorbinDunn You've inspired me to rework my dust shoe approach. I've got a CNCDepot ATC and created this overly elaborate pneumatic dust shroud lifting solution that, honestly, stresses me out every time it's triggered. Your solution is like a face palm... of course... moment for me.
@@portlandscott Cool! If you have an S30C, they run hot -- try printing it out of PLA+ at a minimum, or ideally ASA or ABS to have better heat resistance.
This looks amazing! I’d like to see a feature to add in a polycarb window to watch the cut. Another need is a port to mount a compressed air brass tube that aims at the cut. I’d love to see an incorporated inset for a led ring light too
Yeah, those are great ideas! I experimented with some clear dust bristles and windows..I just couldn't get them to work right. I did run an extra air line to my spindle -- someday I might set it up. I used air exclusively on my Tormach PCNC, but on the Avid I've been pretty happy with the dust collection.
Hi Corbin, great work as usual. The one main suggestion I would make it to alter the design so that it attaches to the fixed gantry and not the spine;le. Make it height adjustable so that before each job you set the height to whatever material you are cutting and the hood will sit flush with the top of the material always during the job rather than going up and down with the height changes of the spindle. This has improved my dust collection greatly. I did mine so that there's an upper and lower frame with about a 2" plexiglass in the middle so you can see what the tool is doing during the job. the bottom frame has brushes but they are very short, less than 1 inch, because they don't need to be any longer when the shoe is always flush with the material. Also, anything you can do in the F360 design to move the mouth of the dust suction as close as possible to the tool / cut. This has a big impact on getting the dust into the chute. Of course, my first suggestion would blow up your design and process for doing automatic tool changes, you would have to make considerable changes on that I realize! all the best p.s. I would offer to share my files and design but I can't really because it's a total hack job and not fit for human consumption. it's just duct tape and bubble gum to get the job done until I have time to make a proper F360 parametric model for printing. Sorry!
Cool, thanks for the ideas! I do like the long brushes because I tend to do deep carves; I actually have to remove the 100mm brush to avoid collisions! It is somewhat adjustable -- I can move it up and down about 0.5", which is generally enough for what I do, along with the ability to use a different brush length. I'll definitely take your ideas into consideration the next time I mess around with the design!
Wow. I have been looking for exactly this design for my Camaster CNC. Kudos to you for a very elegant design. Thank you so much for generously sharing with the world. Cheers, Bob
Thanks Bob! I know we've been chatting over email too - sounds like the back side won't have enough clearance for the Camaster. I'll let you know if I rework the file to allow more spacing on the back.
Well done Corbin! Looks like a great design. I will think about printing it - my current dust shoe actually works well - it was one built by Kents CNC. I don't have an ATC - so maybe it wouldn't work well with an ATC. With that said a couple features that your dust shoe incorporates I think could be very helpful for me: 1) the ability to remove half the shoe while carving should allow me to get videos for my RUclips Channel of carving/cutting with more dust collection than I currently have. I often pull my dust shoe off to get camera shots which then doesn't provide any real dust collection. 2) the ease of pulling your hose off for clean up. I have attached a Rockler dust right attachment to my current dust shoe to allow me to do this and it is a bit bulky - looks like your setup will be more convenient. Thank you for sharing your ideas and your files. Just downloaded the files - thank you. I didn't see a Fusion 360 file only .stl files. Did I miss something? Thought you said you were providing the F360 Parametric file. Couldn't find a contact point on your website or I would have asked this on your website. Thank you again.
Thanks Rob! The Fusion 360 file should be at the top level in the zip, called "Avid - ATC CNC Dust Shoe V2 v69.f3d" -- Let me know if you see it...otherwise I messed something up! And yeah - the split design is also so I can do some video shots while using my CNC. I'm already thinking about updates: My version 3 will make the dust port easier to grab; I'd like some sort of handle on it.
@@CorbinDunn I just relooked and the file is in the Zip file. I think I got focused on the two folders that were also part of the zip file - though the Avid - ATC CNC...file as the left over Zipfile. My bad but after pointing this out I looked more closely. I am not well versed in Fusion. Started to get there during covid but then switched back to Sketchup, which I was more familiar with, when I stopped designing as many 3D Printer files. Now when I try to use Fusion it is like trying to start all over - but think I need to get back into it after watching what you do. I am really glad I found your channel.
@@RobSandstromDesigns Cool - glad the file is there! Fusion is great with the timeline feature; you can scroll back and step through the file to see how I did everything. I was a big SketchUp user for a long time, but now I really like Fusion; some things are slower with it...but you can get more precision.
@@CorbinDunn one question I have in the fusion 360 file. the dust brush hood is 1 solid piece what would you recommend I do to split it into two pieces like you have in the video. Thank you
Corbin, I just downloaded the files and will be printing it on my Prusa. I like what you have done with it and will let you know how it goes. Thanks well done.
i love this design another option of a dust boot for the atc is something like to shopsaber one where it docks the dust shoe before loading the bits. might be something you can incorporate into this
Yeah! I have thought about going the docking route; it takes a slight bit more time for each tool change, and I'd have to code it in (Avid CNC / Mach 4).
That thing is slick. The removable vacuum hose is a cool concept. And yeah: Definitely seems like too much magnet strength, especially if you ever wanna get sketchy and try to remove one side of the skirt when the machine is in use.
Yeah! Luckily I can re-print the smaller bottom pieces and glue in less magnets and see how it performs. I was going to do another one for a different brush size, so I'll do some testing.
All my videos after this one will have it running - you can see it there! I also pop it on/off mid run in several videos (some I'm not quite done editing yet). I kind figured it would be boring to watch it run...as there isn't much to see, but I should have included it.
Hi Markus - that is a good idea! I've done a few Fusion 360 videos; in general, they aren't as popular as the general build videos. Definitely download the Fusion 360 file and walk through the timeline -- that can give you a really good idea on how I built it up. This is version 2, and I effectively redid the entire design from scratch, so it should be pretty easy to follow and see each of the operations I did when you step through it. If you don't know how to step through it, let me know..I'll write up some directions.
McMaster Car sells a brush that does not use all the white cloth to hold it together (7900T2 Easy-Cut Strip Brush 7/32" Wide X 3/16" High Backing, 3" Overall Height, 5 ft. Length). This is useful with a dust boot that uses short cutting bits. If you use a router, almost all routers have a fan that pulls air in from the top and out the bottom for cooling. This will cause problems with a vacuum trying to suck up the dust and most of the dust will be pushed out of the brush cavity. So when designing your boot, make sure you funnel (divert) that air out in your design before it hits the boot cavity. Do not block the air flow as your router will over heat. You can design this in your 3d print. Also you want to have a brush (skirt) that snaps on and off (use the magnets) as you will need to print different skirts that use different length brushes depending on the length of you cutting bit.
Awesome! I need to look into McMaster Carr's brush; I haven't been super happy with most the amazon ones I have been using. So far, I haven't had issues with the spindle's cooling air fan causing any issues.
Hi Corbin, i've loaded your Dust Shoe files..i'll try to adapt it on my CnC...under Fusion 360...i think it'll be great...Thank for your very interested videos.... Philip
I get this message when I try to open the file on Fusion "Error: Fusion 360 could not open Avid - ATC CNC Dust Shoe v3 v7.f3z because it is not a supported file type." Let me know if you can help me get this file uploaded to Fusion. Thanks
Hi Kyle, Yes, I can help! You have to migrate your fusion account to "teams" from "single user"; it's available for all users, including the free license. The file format uses Configurations, which require Teams (for some reason...)
Yeah, the link is in the Description. I'll post it here to. Add it to your Cart and do the checkout (it's all free), and optionally subscribe to my email list. You can put in fake info if you don't want to share your name or email. www.corbinsworkshop.com/shop/cnc-dust-shoe-v2-stls-and-fusion-360-parametric-design-for-3d-printing/
Yes - the Fusion 360 file is parametric, so you just set it to whatever spindle size you want. I wrote directions in the download on how to do it. If you have trouble figuring it out, send me an email and I can export an STL with that size. Thanks!
I think you downloaded the wrong file -- I saw one download for the old one a bunch of the new one. Here's the link to the new file: www.corbinsworkshop.com/shop/cnc-dust-shoe-v2-stls-and-fusion-360-parametric-design-for-3d-printing/
You shouldn't have to login -- that should work (if you created an account), but it isn't necessary. Add to Cart takes you to the cart page and you can checkout (it's all free -- it just lets me track downloads). I just checked it and it seems to be working. Maybe try a different browser? Other than that, maybe it is an intermittent problem with my site; I don't pay for the best hosting...
First off let me apologize for being a FNG but I downloaded the 3d files and printed the dust shoe first and I was going to print the spindle portion and I previously had a 80mm spindle on my old machine and this new machine has a 62mm one. I have Fusion 360 but for the life of me have no idea how to resize the spindle portion to my 62mm spindle size. Help please?????
It looks very pretty and I printed it with petg-cf just one problem. I do not have any holes for the magnets on either side for the dust port or brush hoods.
CMS Magnets - I list it in the description on the page: www.corbinsworkshop.com/shop/cnc-dust-shoe-v2-stls-and-fusion-360-parametric-design-for-3d-printing/
Update: I printed some more of the split brush holders without a skirt - they printed fine, with no cleanup required! I also tested it with half as many magnets and it seems plenty strong enough.
You are very creative and talented at what you do. Not to mention that you are also willing to share your knowledge.
In the opening minutes of your video. I am very impressed with the care and attention you took to make your design usable for others. Explaining how to adjust the parameters and especially making multiple stl sizes available was super thoughtful towards others. You definitely went above and beyond!
Thanks! I'm glad you appreciated it. Definitely check out the v3 improvements.
appreciate you share the files and video. Kudos!
No problem!
Thank you
It’s really admirable when a maker gives their designs away and with a customizable template 🙌🏼
Thanks!
Thank you for sharing, especially the Fusion 360 files.
No problem!
Thank you for sharing, the Fusion 360 files.
I have just started with an ATC tool changer and indeed the brush is in the way, I will definitely print it and see if it works for me.
Thanks for all your work and sharing your knowledge.
No problem, Robert! Hopefully this dust boot will work for you, too. If not, just customize it!
It's very thoughtful and kind of you to share your Fusion 360 files. I modified the files to fit my homebuild cnc router. Thank you very much and great success to your business!
Great! I’m glad you got some use from it!
thanks corbin, i like the 2 part brush section 👍
No problem!
Nice work Corbin! Thanks for sharing all this great content for we CNC afficionados.
No problem! I definitely enjoy helping out the community.
. @CorbinDunn You've inspired me to rework my dust shoe approach. I've got a CNCDepot ATC and created this overly elaborate pneumatic dust shroud lifting solution that, honestly, stresses me out every time it's triggered. Your solution is like a face palm... of course... moment for me.
@@portlandscott Cool! If you have an S30C, they run hot -- try printing it out of PLA+ at a minimum, or ideally ASA or ABS to have better heat resistance.
@@CorbinDunn Thanks for the tip. I haven't ventured into anything other than PLA or PLA+ yet, but I'll use this as motivation to dive in.
This looks amazing! I’d like to see a feature to add in a polycarb window to watch the cut. Another need is a port to mount a compressed air brass tube that aims at the cut. I’d love to see an incorporated inset for a led ring light too
Yeah, those are great ideas! I experimented with some clear dust bristles and windows..I just couldn't get them to work right. I did run an extra air line to my spindle -- someday I might set it up. I used air exclusively on my Tormach PCNC, but on the Avid I've been pretty happy with the dust collection.
This is an incredibly great design! Genius!
Thanks!
Hi Corbin, great work as usual. The one main suggestion I would make it to alter the design so that it attaches to the fixed gantry and not the spine;le. Make it height adjustable so that before each job you set the height to whatever material you are cutting and the hood will sit flush with the top of the material always during the job rather than going up and down with the height changes of the spindle. This has improved my dust collection greatly. I did mine so that there's an upper and lower frame with about a 2" plexiglass in the middle so you can see what the tool is doing during the job. the bottom frame has brushes but they are very short, less than 1 inch, because they don't need to be any longer when the shoe is always flush with the material. Also, anything you can do in the F360 design to move the mouth of the dust suction as close as possible to the tool / cut. This has a big impact on getting the dust into the chute. Of course, my first suggestion would blow up your design and process for doing automatic tool changes, you would have to make considerable changes on that I realize! all the best
p.s. I would offer to share my files and design but I can't really because it's a total hack job and not fit for human consumption. it's just duct tape and bubble gum to get the job done until I have time to make a proper F360 parametric model for printing. Sorry!
Cool, thanks for the ideas! I do like the long brushes because I tend to do deep carves; I actually have to remove the 100mm brush to avoid collisions! It is somewhat adjustable -- I can move it up and down about 0.5", which is generally enough for what I do, along with the ability to use a different brush length. I'll definitely take your ideas into consideration the next time I mess around with the design!
Wow. I have been looking for exactly this design for my Camaster CNC. Kudos to you for a very elegant design. Thank you so much for generously sharing with the world. Cheers, Bob
Thanks Bob! I know we've been chatting over email too - sounds like the back side won't have enough clearance for the Camaster. I'll let you know if I rework the file to allow more spacing on the back.
Just wanted to say I printed the entire boot and I LOVE IT! Fantastic job on the design
Awesome, thanks Chad! I like all the great work you are doing too!
Well done Corbin! Looks like a great design. I will think about printing it - my current dust shoe actually works well - it was one built by Kents CNC. I don't have an ATC - so maybe it wouldn't work well with an ATC. With that said a couple features that your dust shoe incorporates I think could be very helpful for me:
1) the ability to remove half the shoe while carving should allow me to get videos for my RUclips Channel of carving/cutting with more dust collection than I currently have. I often pull my dust shoe off to get camera shots which then doesn't provide any real dust collection.
2) the ease of pulling your hose off for clean up. I have attached a Rockler dust right attachment to my current dust shoe to allow me to do this and it is a bit bulky - looks like your setup will be more convenient.
Thank you for sharing your ideas and your files.
Just downloaded the files - thank you. I didn't see a Fusion 360 file only .stl files. Did I miss something? Thought you said you were providing the F360 Parametric file. Couldn't find a contact point on your website or I would have asked this on your website. Thank you again.
Thanks Rob! The Fusion 360 file should be at the top level in the zip, called "Avid - ATC CNC Dust Shoe V2 v69.f3d" -- Let me know if you see it...otherwise I messed something up!
And yeah - the split design is also so I can do some video shots while using my CNC.
I'm already thinking about updates: My version 3 will make the dust port easier to grab; I'd like some sort of handle on it.
@@CorbinDunn I just relooked and the file is in the Zip file. I think I got focused on the two folders that were also part of the zip file - though the Avid - ATC CNC...file as the left over Zipfile. My bad but after pointing this out I looked more closely.
I am not well versed in Fusion. Started to get there during covid but then switched back to Sketchup, which I was more familiar with, when I stopped designing as many 3D Printer files.
Now when I try to use Fusion it is like trying to start all over - but think I need to get back into it after watching what you do. I am really glad I found your channel.
@@RobSandstromDesigns Cool - glad the file is there!
Fusion is great with the timeline feature; you can scroll back and step through the file to see how I did everything. I was a big SketchUp user for a long time, but now I really like Fusion; some things are slower with it...but you can get more precision.
I'm definitely going to make one of these for myself it looks awesome and thank you for making these files available
No problem!
@@CorbinDunn one question I have in the fusion 360 file. the dust brush hood is 1 solid piece what would you recommend I do to split it into two pieces like you have in the video. Thank you
@@guypenney4793There should also be a split version in the file too. Let me know if you don’t find it! Some are just bodies and not components.
@@CorbinDunn thank you I found it.
Corbin, I just downloaded the files and will be printing it on my Prusa. I like what you have done with it and will let you know how it goes. Thanks well done.
Great! Definitely let me know how it goes for you. Thanks!
Awesome
Great work and very generous. Thank you!
Thanks!
Amazing Job. Thanks for sharing these files.
Update: 236 downloads so far! I'm glad you guys like it and are using it!
i love this design another option of a dust boot for the atc is something like to shopsaber one where it docks the dust shoe before loading the bits. might be something you can incorporate into this
Yeah! I have thought about going the docking route; it takes a slight bit more time for each tool change, and I'd have to code it in (Avid CNC / Mach 4).
That thing is slick. The removable vacuum hose is a cool concept. And yeah: Definitely seems like too much magnet strength, especially if you ever wanna get sketchy and try to remove one side of the skirt when the machine is in use.
Yeah! Luckily I can re-print the smaller bottom pieces and glue in less magnets and see how it performs. I was going to do another one for a different brush size, so I'll do some testing.
This is a really good design. Would have been great to see it run and its effectiveness.
All my videos after this one will have it running - you can see it there! I also pop it on/off mid run in several videos (some I'm not quite done editing yet). I kind figured it would be boring to watch it run...as there isn't much to see, but I should have included it.
Hi Corbin, if you have the time. Can you show us, how do you design this dust shoe in Fusion 360? Best Regard from Germany Markus
Hi Markus - that is a good idea! I've done a few Fusion 360 videos; in general, they aren't as popular as the general build videos. Definitely download the Fusion 360 file and walk through the timeline -- that can give you a really good idea on how I built it up. This is version 2, and I effectively redid the entire design from scratch, so it should be pretty easy to follow and see each of the operations I did when you step through it. If you don't know how to step through it, let me know..I'll write up some directions.
McMaster Car sells a brush that does not use all the white cloth to hold it together (7900T2 Easy-Cut Strip Brush 7/32" Wide X 3/16" High Backing, 3" Overall Height, 5 ft. Length). This is useful with a dust boot that uses short cutting bits. If you use a router, almost all routers have a fan that pulls air in from the top and out the bottom for cooling. This will cause problems with a vacuum trying to suck up the dust and most of the dust will be pushed out of the brush cavity. So when designing your boot, make sure you funnel (divert) that air out in your design before it hits the boot cavity. Do not block the air flow as your router will over heat. You can design this in your 3d print. Also you want to have a brush (skirt) that snaps on and off (use the magnets) as you will need to print different skirts that use different length brushes depending on the length of you cutting bit.
Awesome! I need to look into McMaster Carr's brush; I haven't been super happy with most the amazon ones I have been using. So far, I haven't had issues with the spindle's cooling air fan causing any issues.
Hi Corbin, i've loaded your Dust Shoe files..i'll try to adapt it on my CnC...under Fusion 360...i think it'll be great...Thank for your very interested videos....
Philip
Great! I hope it works for you and your CNC. The biggest request I've had is to make the backside clearance smaller. Maybe some day I'll get to it..
Thanks for your time and files
No problem!
Very nice! Thank you!
No problem!
This is awesome
Thanks!
Thank you I will print one for my new cnc that's coming . Mind i ask Where did you get the brushes
Yeah! The download link has the part numbers and direct links to McMaster-Carr. There is also a readme.txt in the download that has the same info.
I get this message when I try to open the file on Fusion "Error: Fusion 360 could not open Avid - ATC CNC Dust Shoe v3 v7.f3z because it is not a supported file type." Let me know if you can help me get this file uploaded to Fusion. Thanks
Hi Kyle, Yes, I can help! You have to migrate your fusion account to "teams" from "single user"; it's available for all users, including the free license. The file format uses Configurations, which require Teams (for some reason...)
thank you ...beautiful design ...how to download it ? I don't find any link in your page ??
Yeah, the link is in the Description. I'll post it here to. Add it to your Cart and do the checkout (it's all free), and optionally subscribe to my email list. You can put in fake info if you don't want to share your name or email.
www.corbinsworkshop.com/shop/cnc-dust-shoe-v2-stls-and-fusion-360-parametric-design-for-3d-printing/
@@CorbinDunn thank you
do you have a file for a 65mm spindle
Yes - the Fusion 360 file is parametric, so you just set it to whatever spindle size you want. I wrote directions in the download on how to do it. If you have trouble figuring it out, send me an email and I can export an STL with that size. Thanks!
Thanks (well the f3d file ist not the last version here, not finish like on the video) watever thanks for sharing
I think you downloaded the wrong file -- I saw one download for the old one a bunch of the new one. Here's the link to the new file: www.corbinsworkshop.com/shop/cnc-dust-shoe-v2-stls-and-fusion-360-parametric-design-for-3d-printing/
thanks, V2 is the right one @@CorbinDunn
Hi Corbin I tried logging in but the log in button doesn't seem to be working. Also the add to cart for this project also does not seem to be working.
You shouldn't have to login -- that should work (if you created an account), but it isn't necessary. Add to Cart takes you to the cart page and you can checkout (it's all free -- it just lets me track downloads). I just checked it and it seems to be working. Maybe try a different browser? Other than that, maybe it is an intermittent problem with my site; I don't pay for the best hosting...
I double checked account creation, and it seems to be working (I used a private browser tab to isolate data). I'd suspect an issue with your browser.
First off let me apologize for being a FNG but I downloaded the 3d files and printed the dust shoe first and I was going to print the spindle portion and I previously had a 80mm spindle on my old machine and this new machine has a 62mm one. I have Fusion 360 but for the life of me have no idea how to resize the spindle portion to my 62mm spindle size. Help please?????
For now I am going to print the 2 sides. Until I figure out how to resize.
I am a putz...I watched the video again and I think I got it.
Well I have it adjusted to my 62mm, but how do I break it apart to just create an stl model of the spindle portion.
updater: I figured it out
It looks very pretty and I printed it with petg-cf just one problem. I do not have any holes for the magnets on either side for the dust port or brush hoods.
what magnets did you use?
CMS Magnets - I list it in the description on the page: www.corbinsworkshop.com/shop/cnc-dust-shoe-v2-stls-and-fusion-360-parametric-design-for-3d-printing/
@@CorbinDunn thanks. I scrolled too fast and missed it
Thanks for sharing, that's what it's about...
thanks man
No problem!