Hi James, It's been over thirty years since I left Calderbank to work in England. Your videos have brought back so many memories & new facts, like the Dixie pond name and how it came about. Needless to say I've subscribed to your channel. Thanks Stewart
Hello James, I am loving the videos - particularly this one. This was a special place to me as a kid and an even more special one as an adult. My name is Martin Coyne and I moved away form the 'hill over 25 years ago. I currently live in Bournemouth. I'm looking to trace a guy who has the same surname as you. I knew him as Chunky but his given name was Peter Marshall (I think). He will be roughly the same age as me, so in his fifties. If you could help I would be much obliged. The Roundal, in my humble opinion, is a megalithic site with a clear view of Tinto. It shoud be preserved at all costs.
hi james I stay in simpson way, I have been there many times over the years with my children and now my granchildren, when you said it was a roman burial site. I was surprised ,this is the first mention of this I have come across. with all this motorway work its funny nothing of the roman period has been found. good music and excellent video keep up the good work.
Didnt think the romans got this far up but then again there is the roman baths site in straffy park interesting i might go there with my metal detector but not sure how to get there from uddy any ideas 👍
So far...Now that its been dry since the lock down I took a walk up to the mound.. Apart from being a local drinking den for the local Wildlife and attempts at birth Control this what I uncovered... Lying around among the undergrowth,other than Buckie Bottles,cans and condoms, etc, are layers of Railway ballast. Also in among the bushes are broken lintels and blocks which have the remains of drill holes in them. Have a look at any railway bridge in Bellshill and you see the remnants of these same drill holes. The NLS maps do show the Tunnel and later it removed. Please bear in mind that to survey an area is not like Google Earth..It took years The Surveyors would keep coming back to the same area , return to the site and add or remove some detail. This is an extract from the Ordance Survey Name Book of the time "The Tunnel near this, of the Wishaw & Coltness Section of the Caledonian Railway, is being cut through for the purpose of doing away with it. It has been worked for that purpose for 2 years & it is probable that the same will be taken before it is completed. The Tunnel was condemmed as dangerous." The best view which shows why the mound is a railway dump is to look at it from the new footbridge into Carnbroe looking over the M8
Thanks Jimbo great info. In a earlier comment you said the tunnel was removed in 1886. I've seen multiple maps from before that time that shows the mount and the tunnel, one of which is in the video from 1860. How could that be if the mount was a product of the tunnels demise?
Hi James..These all refer to the 6 inch to mile maps of the area..The first map states that it was surveyed in 1859 and printed in 1864 and shows the tunnel and the Mound... The 2nd map surveyed in 1897 , published in 1899 shows the Mound and tunnel removed. The Wishaw and Coltness Railway Company built the line from Holytown to Whifflet in 1834 and constructed the Holytown Tunnel. The Wishaw and Coltness was taken over by the Caledonian Railway in February 1848. Since the Wishaw and Coltness operated on a 4 foot 6 inch gauge major works were needed..Removal of the Tunnel was included in the takeover Act. Holytown tunnel was described as low and wood lined and condemned and removal was completed by 1855 . 4 years before the survey date on the map of 1859/1864. The Ordnance Survey Name book stated that the removal work had been going on for 2 years and another 2 years work would be required. So, I guess work started in @1851 The Contractor undertaking the removal, Alexander Wilson took the Caledonian to court as the ground turned out to be rock not earth as the Caledonian stated This now makes me think that what I thought was railway Ballast is the rubble of the tunnel removal. One last point on the Mound...The Mound is at the highest point of the present cutting and the old Tunnel...The Tunnel would have be opened up from the top down..Old prints of Navvies show how this would be done by wheeling barrows up a banking and being dumped in a pile where the Mound is now
Sorry to disappoint you James but the Mount is NOT a Roman Burial Ground or a Site of Special Scientific interest......It,s origin is more recent....If you look at the original 19th Century map it shows a Railway Tunnel North of the present railway yards and dug by the Caledonia Railway prior to 1964... The Mount is in fact a spoil heap of earth and rock removed during tunneling. The tunnel was removed in @1886 and opened out to the present day cutting as seen in your film...The earth was simply added to the Mount..Sorry
Not true Jimbo. The Mount is clearly shown on William Roy's military maps from 1752, well before the railways came along, and possibly on Joan Blau's map of Lower Clydesdale from 100 years earlier. Don't know what it's origin is, but it really is centuries old.
@@tazman2150 Blau's map(based on Pont's) seems to show a pattern of trees surrounding a structure, so maybe a house or church once stood there, gone by mid 18th century?
Hi James, It's been over thirty years since I left Calderbank to work in England. Your videos have brought back so many memories & new facts, like the Dixie pond name and how it came about. Needless to say I've subscribed to your channel. Thanks Stewart
Stewart Carson thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed them!
Hello James, I am loving the videos - particularly this one. This was a special place to me as a kid and an even more special one as an adult. My name is Martin Coyne and I moved away form the 'hill over 25 years ago. I currently live in Bournemouth. I'm looking to trace a guy who has the same surname as you. I knew him as Chunky but his given name was Peter Marshall (I think). He will be roughly the same age as me, so in his fifties. If you could help I would be much obliged. The Roundal, in my humble opinion, is a megalithic site with a clear view of Tinto. It shoud be preserved at all costs.
hi james I stay in simpson way, I have been there many times over the years with my children and now my granchildren, when you said it was a roman burial site. I was surprised ,this is the first mention of this I have come across. with all this motorway work its funny nothing of the roman period has been found. good music and excellent video keep up the good work.
Thanks for the video love this area it be a shame for it too be wasted look what happened too viewpark glen
It doesn't look like that now. Now it looks all muddy and its so noisy because of the traffic of the new bridges 😭
Didnt think the romans got this far up but then again there is the roman baths site in straffy park interesting i might go there with my metal detector but not sure how to get there from uddy any ideas 👍
So far...Now that its been dry since the lock down I took a walk up to the mound.. Apart from being a local drinking den for the local Wildlife and attempts at birth Control this what I uncovered...
Lying around among the undergrowth,other than Buckie Bottles,cans and condoms, etc, are layers of Railway ballast. Also in among the bushes are broken lintels and blocks which have the remains of drill holes in them.
Have a look at any railway bridge in Bellshill and you see the remnants of these same drill holes.
The NLS maps do show the Tunnel and later it removed.
Please bear in mind that to survey an area is not like Google Earth..It took years The Surveyors would keep coming back to the same area , return to the site and add or remove some detail.
This is an extract from the Ordance Survey Name Book of the time
"The Tunnel near this, of the Wishaw & Coltness Section of the Caledonian Railway, is being cut through for the purpose of doing away with it. It has been worked for that purpose for 2 years & it is probable that the same will be taken before it is completed. The Tunnel was condemmed as dangerous."
The best view which shows why the mound is a railway dump is to look at it from the new footbridge into Carnbroe looking over the M8
Thanks Jimbo great info. In a earlier comment you said the tunnel was removed in 1886. I've seen multiple maps from before that time that shows the mount and the tunnel, one of which is in the video from 1860. How could that be if the mount was a product of the tunnels demise?
Hi James..These all refer to the 6 inch to mile maps of the area..The first map states that it was surveyed in 1859 and printed in 1864 and shows the tunnel and the Mound...
The 2nd map surveyed in 1897 , published in 1899 shows the Mound and tunnel removed.
The Wishaw and Coltness Railway Company built the line from Holytown to Whifflet in 1834 and constructed the Holytown Tunnel.
The Wishaw and Coltness was taken over by the Caledonian Railway in February 1848. Since the Wishaw and Coltness operated on a 4 foot 6 inch gauge major works were needed..Removal of the Tunnel was included in the takeover Act.
Holytown tunnel was described as low and wood lined and condemned and removal was completed by 1855 . 4 years before the survey date on the map of 1859/1864.
The Ordnance Survey Name book stated that the removal work had been going on for 2 years and another 2 years work would be required. So, I guess work started in @1851
The Contractor undertaking the removal, Alexander Wilson took the Caledonian to court as the ground turned out to be rock not earth as the Caledonian stated
This now makes me think that what I thought was railway Ballast is the rubble of the tunnel removal.
One last point on the Mound...The Mound is at the highest point of the present cutting and the old Tunnel...The Tunnel would have be opened up from the top down..Old prints of Navvies show how this would be done by wheeling barrows up a banking and being dumped in a pile where the Mound is now
Sorry to disappoint you James but the Mount is NOT a Roman Burial Ground or a Site of Special Scientific interest......It,s origin is more recent....If you look at the original 19th Century map it shows a Railway Tunnel North of the present railway yards and dug by the Caledonia Railway prior to 1964... The Mount is in fact a spoil heap of earth and rock removed during tunneling. The tunnel was removed in @1886 and opened out to the present day cutting as seen in your film...The earth was simply added to the Mount..Sorry
Jim is this defo not roman im thinking of detecting this site if it is but dont want to waste my time if its not cheers 👍
Not true Jimbo. The Mount is clearly shown on William Roy's military maps from 1752, well before the railways came along, and possibly on Joan Blau's map of Lower Clydesdale from 100 years earlier. Don't know what it's origin is, but it really is centuries old.
@@mjclark641 Thanks, I had never heard of they maps before.
@@tazman2150 Blau's map(based on Pont's) seems to show a pattern of trees surrounding a structure, so maybe a house or church once stood there, gone by mid 18th century?
Go to maps on National Library of Scotland site.