Glad to hear! It's definitely not doing as well as my Modern content unfortunately, but since I don't have the luxury of picking and choosing from endless content like other creators do, if I feel like playing Pioneer, Pioneer you all shall get!
Ah excellent insight, I actually didn't think of that. I was thinking about Void Mirror at first but then realized it's not Pioneer legal, but yea Vortex would do the trick! That's also probably why I see it sometimes out of the SB for strange decks I wouldn't normally expect to see it!
I’m sure you may have mentioned this but I think sunken citadel could be great in your deck. Tapped lands suck but being able to activate blast zone, fields and den are extremely nice.
Yes I have some content testing it, and I recently experimented with it again like last week, but somehow some leagues it's insane, but other leagues when I flood a bit I really wish they were Den of the Bugbears, so the verdict for me is still out on it. It's actually hard to fit both Den and Citadel in the deck, remember, we need 8 basics so we don't run out of lands to fetch from our own Field of Ruin and Desolations, and when we factor in Den or Citadel, that's 20 lands right there, and often the 21st through 24th land will be Volatile Fault (extremely outperforming my expectations actually) or Blast Zones (an old time tested and proven great). We'll see!
@@Magic_M_Hayashi when are we gonna see Mono blue in modern I’ll have to send you a list on pattern that I’ve been tinkering with Majority of the deck is your mono blue list haha
I've played around with it a bit too. I prefer it as an actual finisher to bug bear, but not permanently producing red is worse as a mana source, but its a very under appreciated land I think for sure and I will revisit it either in red or another color most likely!
@@ben668 Forge has kicked my butt several times in Pioneer now. I think it's more of an SB card in Modern (and I guess Pioneer too) because when they're packing removal like Leylines or Koligan's commands or stuff like that, it's like an over costed Raging Goblin, but when they don't have removal, may the lord have mercy on them because it gets scary lethal scary quickly! I just haven't found the room or brainstormed the matchups I'd want to bring it in again yet (the room being the bigger issue) but it's definitely something that's been on my mind for awhile now and something I see a decent amount of in Pioneer to keep in on my mind!
loving the pioneer!
Glad to hear! It's definitely not doing as well as my Modern content unfortunately, but since I don't have the luxury of picking and choosing from endless content like other creators do, if I feel like playing Pioneer, Pioneer you all shall get!
Another way to deal with discover combos without splashing is roiling vortex. Love the pioneer content man, keep it coming!
Ah excellent insight, I actually didn't think of that. I was thinking about Void Mirror at first but then realized it's not Pioneer legal, but yea Vortex would do the trick! That's also probably why I see it sometimes out of the SB for strange decks I wouldn't normally expect to see it!
I’m sure you may have mentioned this but I think sunken citadel could be great in your deck. Tapped lands suck but being able to activate blast zone, fields and den are extremely nice.
Yes I have some content testing it, and I recently experimented with it again like last week, but somehow some leagues it's insane, but other leagues when I flood a bit I really wish they were Den of the Bugbears, so the verdict for me is still out on it.
It's actually hard to fit both Den and Citadel in the deck, remember, we need 8 basics so we don't run out of lands to fetch from our own Field of Ruin and Desolations, and when we factor in Den or Citadel, that's 20 lands right there, and often the 21st through 24th land will be Volatile Fault (extremely outperforming my expectations actually) or Blast Zones (an old time tested and proven great).
We'll see!
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@@Magic_M_Hayashi when are we gonna see Mono blue in modern
I’ll have to send you a list on pattern that I’ve been tinkering with
Majority of the deck is your mono blue list haha
@@Erweenie hey send it my way and I'll take a look! Twitter is best
@@Magic_M_Hayashi I’ll do it on twitter then ha
Man, this deck is almost standard legal too...🤔
Interesting, I keep forgetting that Standard nowadays is like Extended was when I first started, with so many sets standard legal now
I have been really enjoying Mirrex as a utility land that can close games that go long
I've played around with it a bit too. I prefer it as an actual finisher to bug bear, but not permanently producing red is worse as a mana source, but its a very under appreciated land I think for sure and I will revisit it either in red or another color most likely!
Ya I use it instead of a some blast zones. Urabrasks forge also has some amazing inevitablely.
@@ben668 Forge has kicked my butt several times in Pioneer now. I think it's more of an SB card in Modern (and I guess Pioneer too) because when they're packing removal like Leylines or Koligan's commands or stuff like that, it's like an over costed Raging Goblin, but when they don't have removal, may the lord have mercy on them because it gets scary lethal scary quickly!
I just haven't found the room or brainstormed the matchups I'd want to bring it in again yet (the room being the bigger issue) but it's definitely something that's been on my mind for awhile now and something I see a decent amount of in Pioneer to keep in on my mind!
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