Big wheels, beautifully engineered though they were, reached their zenith due to the brain - dissolving express passenger train speeds not only having been reached by the tiny radius, more numerous combinations of wheel pairs, but these Stirling stunners blinded by all the new gear new idea. Cheaper, faster, easier to manufacture and manhandle , all geared up for the tremendous effort needed for the heavier and longer freight trains to get going from a standstill, they were the diameter demigods death knell and wheely were all torque and no slipping.
We don't really have any of these type steam engines like this in the United States.But these types (emily) always reminded me of the old steam powered paddle boats on the mississippi. With the one big driver wheel almost resembles the paddle on the side of a steam ship.
We do have singles in the US - C. P. Huntington is a 4-2-4 tank locomotive, on display at the California State Railroad Museum. Its sister locomotive, T. D. Judah, was later converted into a 4-2-2 tender locomotive which is the same wheel configuration as the Stirling Single.
@@joeleboeuf But US had such a variety of unique locomotives. Colorful streamliners galore. Massive articulated freight locomotives, and all-purpose 4-8-4s. All the way down to Shay, Heisler and Climax logging locomotives.
@@PhilBender612 Also look up the New York Central and Hudson River Railroad No. 999, that's probably the closest to being the American counterpart. 4-4-0 with 7.2ft driving wheels. Alleged to be the first locomotive to reach 100 mph.
@@kkobayashi1 I'd say our diesels are cool as well. The early streamliners definitely had some elegance to them, and even the more modern road switchers, while almost utilitarian to a fault, are hard *not* to imagine pulling (and/or pushing) a massive freight train.
Ya know what Sam. Your the only UK model train channel i watch. Your funny, your very knowledgeable. Soci guess OO is HO or close to it but i know you guys run a different voltage too. The love British designed locomotive. That just have class. Yall build alot of locos thaclt are just beautiful. And you guys have vibrant livery colors. Most American steam locomotive were in black or grey. Love your content.
00 gauge uses H0 gauge track it's the same, we can run American H0 scale locos here in the UK, and you can run 00 gauge UK locos on your HO track...what are you waiting for..??👍
i was a volunteer at the nrm locomotion, i helped restore the original tender, so when Rapido turned up to scan the stirling single i was over the moon at the prospect of being able to buy a model of this stunning locomotive. i am very happy with my model but i do have two points that i think for me anyway would of made the model that bit better. 1. I would of liked Rapido or Locomotion models to offer a version with both tenders as the real one in the nrm collection now has two tenders although there not displayed together with one being in storage at shildon. 2. In the sturrock original tender on the left hand side of the loco theres a little memorial to Lesslie Warriner one of the volunteers who worked on the restoration of the tender, sadly he passed away just before the restored locomotive and tender were reveled to the public, hence the memorial to this great man who put in many hours of hard work to get the tender to the condition it is in now. i would of liked to of seen this memorial on the model as a tribute to those that worked to restore the locomotive and tender especially Les. but other than that i think it has to be the best model from the last ten years that is until recently when Hornby have stole that crown with another model ive wanted since i was a kid, the Locomotion no1.
The capacitors are for DCC stay-alive (powerpack). It's pretty common to use a DC-to-DC converter along with low voltage supercapacitors to implement a DCC stay-alive. The capacitors are charged to their rated voltage, and when needed, the DC/DC boosts the capacitor output to a higher DC voltage. You can buy a controller like that separately, like the Zimo STACO series.
It could be argued that the main thing which caused the Singles to become obsolete, wasn't the performance of locomotives like the Atlantics (4-4-2), but rather the development in carriage types. When the Singles first came into service, the type of passenger cars they pulled, were relatively small six wheel cars, or very early small bogie cars. However, as development progressed, by even the early 1900's, designs had progressed to the point that rolling stock was getting bigger, and by extension much more heavy. Having a single drive axle, regardless of how large the wheels are on that axle, would mean you have a rather limited amount of tractive effort that could be used, and in turn, you'd have severe limitations on the capability of the locomotive. Meaning that while the idea "worked" it didn't really work as long when compared with other designs. The total life span being just 37 years at best, and 21 years at worst. (1870-1916 vs 1895-1916). Compare this with some of the 0-6-0 goods engines from around the same period, which continued working well into the 20th century, and in some cases, well into the nationalization period; and well you can see the issue. It may be a rather nice locomotive, but as designs go, it's something of a 'dead end'. In that there really wasn't much anyone could do to actually 'improve' the design. Other companies did try this from time to time, with limited success... but given that by 1928 the whole idea was abandoned by the various railroads, and not expanded on further (as happened with other locomotive designs with multiple drivers), then the design was largely obsolete by the time it was introduced. Meaning, neat idea, but couldn't keep up with developments.
Been hoping we’d get to see a Stirling Single on this channel one day. Honestly my favorite steam engine ever there just so majestic to look at and we’re a key step into the future of Express engines of the LNER.
@ Oh definitely this model is definitely worth the price. I’m actually was a bit surprised during the running part Emily was either in the background or pulling a set of coaches as well. An amazing video and can’t wait to see what you do next.
I have one, I lucked out and mine does have the screws. I have loved these since I found a Kitmaster one assembled at a show 20 years ago. It had gotten damaged, but I still have it. I have not been able to run this one yet, my layout is under construction. Watching the video is mesmerizing
i've got mine & i love it. Though mine was missing the screws to attach the splashers so i contacted rapido who sent some spares in the mail & i've now got them attached. The splashers dont catch on the wheels for my layout as i have very gental curves
Remember that in real life, this loco usually only pulled 4 and 6 wheel non bogie coaches. I remember seeing the Sterling Single when it was running on the GC at Loughborough. Firebox glow is fine, but remember normally steam locomotives usually ran with the firebox door closed, except when the fireman was stoking it. So this model is more realistic when it comes to this feature.
I doubt that the Stirling single will be beaten by anything this year, this might just be the best model I've seen on your channel. It seems to me that Rapido are making a serious attempt at becoming the best manufacturer in the UK! Very thorough review as always Sam.
Re firebox lighting - When a steam loco is actually moving (other than possibly shuffling itself round a loco shed) then the door to the firebox MUST BE CLOSED! Otherwise the entire fire (coals etc gets sucked through the boiler and out the chimney). However if the door closes off the fire completely there may be insufficient air (i.e. oxygen) entering the firebox - so most firebox doors are constructed with flaps, smaller openings, gaps round the side etc which can be adjusted by the fireman to let some oxygen in - and its through these gaps which the glow of the firebox should be seen - not a whacking great glowing opening. This model by Rapido therefore does a great job of replicating how a real steam loco firebox looks when its in motion - unlike pretty much every other model with 'firebox glow' on the market.
I'm surpised you didn't buy one sooner Sam (massive price aside), and it looks absolutely top notch. Rapido and GNR seems to be a good mix, and hopefully the J13 follows suit. I could see them making a model of "Henry Oakley" at some point in the future.
Really enjoyed this, hits all the marks for me; -A fantastic product, which you were suitably impressed by. -Finding and reporting genuine issues but not overdoing it. -Generally objective and consistent tests across all model reviews, allowing honesty. Keep them coming, they’re among the best product reviews on youtube regardless of which hobby!
I've seen the real thing at York in 2023 and I think the fascination behind the Stirling Single is the combination of the striking green livery, combined with the fact that it is the basis for Emily (which makes it recognizable to the children) and the huge driving wheel. I stood next to this engine and was blown away by the size of it and the very impressive speed of 85mph back in the late 1870s. I wish it would be restored to operational condition. This model from Rapido looks absolutely stunning. I had no idea it was all metal including the tender. Though the lack of screws for the splashers and the inbalance is very annoying. Though for the latter you can adjust or trim the spring a little bit and maybe improve it like that. But yeah, I would contact Rapido to get a new detail pack as I am curious how the tolerance of the splashers are on second radius curves and inclines. But besides, innovative model with the connector especially for way back then. I can see why it would have cost as much as it did back then. I still think it's worth it. But yeah all in all, just like the Jones Goods, 9/10 for me. Rapido is upping their game I think after the sloppy mess of the E-Class and the 15xx Pannier. Their next big project, the SECR 01 and later on the USATC-S160 will be quite promising if this one is anything to go by. I was really looking forward to this review and it was worth the wait. What a fantastic model and a in-dept review, Sam 👍👍
Great review as always Sam! I treated myself to the locomotion models version, since I've only ever seen the real one with the larger tender, and... wow. Just an incredible model. Amazing performance and absolutely beautiful. Glad you liked yours too!
The final trio of superbly elegant models and Hattons and Hornby Genesis coaches looked stunning. This was a thoroughly enjoyable video. I haven’t run my Rapido Stirling yet; I’ll have to watch out for missing splashes packs and the front bogie problem. Thank you once again Sam
I converted an Emily by printing a boiler cover, and making two working amps on the front. Installed a DCC in the tender with the speaker half out the bottom.
Stirling Singles are definitely some of my absolute favourite engines. They're so elegant, and are very distinctive compared to most other engines. The model is probably too expensive and delicate for me though, so I'd probably go for Emily. 😅
Finally, you got the Stirling Single model from Rapido, Sam. It is a fantastic detailed model and its performance is superb. I do have to agree with you about the mechanism, it is a pretty good mechanism but to get its pick-ups cleaned is going to be difficult because of the break rigging being in the way. It may be expensive but still, it is a fantastic model from Rapido.
finally they produced models of one of the most gorgeous steam locomotives there is in Britain! this is gorgeous! I hope someday soon I'll get my hands on one even tho in not British but Hungarian great Video Sam as always!
This makes me think I’d love to see a new tool of the Caledonian Single. I don’t have any other Caledonian stock but I’d certainly buy one given the price was reasonable.
Not my preferred era but all reviews are appreciated. Quality, within & across manufacturers, is broader than ever I imagined.. life seemed so much simpler, as a 10 yo.
Hi Sam. Yes, lovely loco but, like you, screws for the splashers were missing. To be fair, once I'd informed Rapido, they dispatched some to me in short order. Splashers now fitted but yet to test positioning of them on some R2 curves. Firebox flicker though is barely detectable unless you're at the perfect angle to view. Mine is DCC fitted and the sound is fine. Overall very happy with it. A great loco.
Thanks Steve - hopefully I can get some too and give it a try on R2! Yes the firebox glow is an odd design... not sure why they set out to do that... but I have to say I quite enjoy the subtlety of the effect! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I haven't been able to run my sterling single yet, so great to know it has a firebox glow as i thought it didn't. And good to know about that front boogie. Think I'll fit a small spring. Thanks for a great review.
That was truly beautiful, Sam. _Loving_ the detail on the hinged cab windows, maker's details on the main-wheel-arches , ...and that firebox flicker! Real shame about the screws, _and_ the seam on the chimney!🤦🏻♂
Great video. The 4 splasher screws were missing on mine too. I called Rapido and they told me that a batch had been erroneously shipped without them. They quickly sent me some and I fitted the splashers (bit fiddley). When moved to the outermost position, they don't seem to obstruct the wheels on 2nd radius curves. That position isn't quite prototypical but it still looks OK to my eye.
Mine came in last week, and I absolutely love it. Bit tricky in reverse, but I like running engines forward anyway. Much as I would’ve liked the original release, maybe Rapido can announce the 80s tender on its own. Best of both worlds, uh, eras. We need American singles in HO. Ya hear me, Bachmann, HO singles. C. P. Huntington’s a good place to start.
Fantastic! What a sight to see this model in action. Good work as always Sam. It was worth the wait for your opinion. And just the model you need after the Leader Class disaster. Guess you can call this a...STIRLING Review! ... I'll throw myself out!
That is an absolutely beautiful steam engine. Probably like most, my introduction to this locomotive was on Thomas And Friends. I run N Scale, I would love to find this locomotive in that scale
Enjoyed that, it’s nice to see somebody not being disappointed after a long wait for a model. Ref the missing screws, might well be worth a message to Rapido, by reputation their customer service is quite good?
Seeing the old model for 400 quid was terrifying but since my usual model shop stocked a couple of the new run at a decent price and as an LNER and NER addict I couldn’t help myself, safe to say it was more than worth it.
This is a stunning locomotive with excellent quality. I do think I would have fixed the front 2 axel assembly spring by cutting as you suggested but I know after paying over 200 for it I think I can let you off the hook. One question I had that you did not answer was whether you could see the fire box effect under the locomotive as in the real deal. I enjoyed the video so great review and introduction to this loco, Jersey Bill
I think so too - I might look at swapping the spring out for a weaker one... just in case it goes wrong then I can revert back haha! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
For the capacitors in the tender the circuit board has some sort of voltage limiting circuit that allows it to use those smaller caps for keep alive purposes
Hi Sam, I think I saw all the engines in the background. It was the Caledonian single in LMS Maroon and Caledonian Blue, & Stephenson's rocket. Hopefully I got them all right. Cheers Jasper & Willow
Got one with the large Stirling tender, yes it is a beautiful model,had mine since summer 2018,from the NRM.Came with screws fitted for the front bogie splashers, but those side chains for the buffer beams..very difficult to fit,tiny short lugs to fit in the locating holes, still have not fitted them.The axle ends are not blackened on mine,and the accessory pack contains an etch with four circular discs to fit over the driving axle ends ,the two extra just in case you lose one or two, haven't fitted these either!
Decent video here Sam, might look at getting one of these but for me I would want it in NRM condition which means I would be buying it from the Railway Museum, with regards to your comments about this yes this may be cheaper as a general release but when it comes to the museum models which the first release of these were the money is actually going to them which in turn helps the museum to operate, it’s basically like you say it’s better buying from a shop instead direct from the manufacturer,I have bought models from the National Railway Museum, my Bachmann V2 Green Arrow is one I bought from the York base a couple of years ago, you do pay high when buying from the museum but the money goes to them and a great cause.
Thanks David - yes the NRM version is available too I think - and definitely good that money goes to the museum, but it's nice to have the choice for those on more of a budget! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
A beautiful loco and well worth the wait. Any chance in the future if showing it to us again with splashers fitted and the front spring trimmed or replaced to demonstrate increased performance? Cheers!
Possibly one of the greatest releases of the 21st century - and Rapido nailed it in two versions. Comparing mine which arrived today to the KR models leader which arrived at the start of the week and it’s like chalk and cheese.
This model is an absolute stunner. It's definitely one of Rapido's best 👍. I'm planning to have my review finished and uploaded by the end of the week.
Emily used to be one of my favourite characters from Thomas. Is it just me or do the manufacturers tend to do more Thomas bases these days? Maybe it's just a side effect of them moving their attention to more pregrouping/industrial locos. Whatever the reason Rapido's Stirling Single, J70 and their upcoming Alfred & Judy won't be as popular if not because of Thomas. Unfortunately I won't be getting the Stirling Single this time but I do wish to get Alfred or Judy later this year. :)
Yeah I like Emily too - and I think they probably keep Thomas in mind with some choices... like you say lots of locos from Thomas have been done! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
As of today, mine is in US customs coming from Hereford Models; excellent, fast service. I have generally made it a habit to wait for your reviews before springing for a new loco, but other reviews suggested going ahead. Whew! Good on ya, lad. With the trailing wheels being powered, wouldn't that make the model itself a 4-4-0?
Very nice to see this class join your collection. I actually sort of had Emily on my mind after listening to an audio story of her first Christmas party on Sodor. I struggled to find the odd one out if there was one. Among singles, I saw the Caley, a red one, and a Rocket. Was the odd one on the turntable? I couldn't see the wheels that well to identify what it was.
Absolutely excellent. I have one of the originals in one of the excellent display cases I purchase from Gaz Oakley. I have had the accessory pack fitted by Steve Johnson of Grimy Times fame as I find fitting so fiddly. Thanks for the review Sam.
Strange that there's no firebox flicker. I own the original which I was able to purchase during a visit to York a few years ago, and it does have a firebox flicker! I wonder why this amendment was made.
@@SamsTrains I got mine today and I didn't notice the firebox glow until you mentioned it in your review, so I checked back on some video I took and indeed it's there. It's nicely done to satisfy the people who complain that the firebox door wouldn't be open all the time.
Completely off topic in relation to this video, but have you ever thought of building a layout as a "series" for youtube? I know you're more rolling stock orientated, but a layout series could be cool with your presenting style.😊
Hi Sam, lovely loco and review,,I have been waiting to here your opinion of this Single for yonks, so marvellous and glad you like it. I was lucky enough to pick up one of the first batch at an Antique auction just over 2yrs ago...at a steal 👍.... After seeing the balance issue with the front bogey and driver I've tested mine and its not the same , yes the front bogey is quite nicely sprung , but pushing down on the smokebox shows there is no movement on the main drive wheels at all. Loco just pivots on them and lifts the rear wheels..in theory it should pull better, so later this evening I'll stick all my teaks behind it and see how many it will pull before wheelslip occurs......👍 Great review and pleased you loved this model...course its a favourite...😄
Thanks so much Mark - that's very interesting - the spring is mightily strong on mine - is that not the case with the first batch then? Thanks for sharing, Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@SamsTrains Just had another look, I would say the spring is a nice bit weaker..so placing it on the track the front bogey moves up a couple of mm and the main driver wheels touch the rails ok. If I put a piece of paper under the front bogey it very nearly hits the top of its suspension travel and yet drive wheels still sit correctly on the rails....
@@SamsTrains 8 Hornby Teak's , runs well , lovely wheel slip on starting then perfectly fine on straights and minor curves but a bit of wheel slip again on a series of 'S' curves. Bends and curves are majority 3rd radius plus some 2nd radius....Don't think it would pull 8 coaches up Gordon's hill...but it wouldn't be far away, Thanks again Sam
What a lovely model...!! Now we need a truly modern Dean Single, and one of the Johnson Singles from the Midland Railway. A Stroudley Single would be a bit too much to ask for... 😜 Incidentally, do you realise that you have the same loco twice on the layout? The maroon LMS Caley Single is actually the same loco as the Caley blue one...!!
From seeing other reviews the front bogie spring is an issue. On some it lifts the front drivers, on others it lifts the under cab driving axle. If the locating screw is a self tapping then backing off or screwing in should work as long as the pivoting is not effected. Adding weight round the motor inside the boiler will bring the big wheels down, or shorten the spring in increments of 1/4 or 1/2 turns. A shim under the front spring will bring the back wheels down. It obviously needs the easiest of solutions because wear may tilt the balance of the loco through time used.
She is crying out for a rake of 6 wheel coaches. If she was mine I would adjust the front spring. When she ran in the “race to the north” era a rake of 20 6 wheelers was not unusual - so she should haul much better! Thanks for the Review, Sam!
Yeah definitely! And I'm going to try a different weaker spring when I get around to it and test again - don't think it'll be a big deal... 20 6 wheelers should be no problem with that mod! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I managed to get hold of this loco it runs great my only problem was with the connection on the loco i only pulled them apart a couple of times the only trouble was i had to put some epoxy on the loco side to stop it moving and having a good connection apart from that runs great.
Excellent finish : Rapido had cranked up the things with this one ! That's good news for the forthcoming models (44xx GWR small Prairie e. g.). Only critical point, the serviceability, everything else is spot on. I am not interested in this model, but if Rapido can keep the quality the reached here on their forthcoming models, that would be great.
This loco definitely contends with other ones for being the best model for the OO market. It honestly rivals most of Bachmann’s diesels for that title.
As an American, I must admit that might be the most elegant locomotive design I've ever seen. A truly unique aesthetic.
I agree - I wish our manufacturers would make more of our Era 1 locomotives!
Big wheels, beautifully engineered though they were, reached their zenith due to the brain - dissolving express passenger train speeds not only having been reached by the tiny radius, more numerous combinations of wheel pairs, but these Stirling stunners blinded by all the new gear new idea.
Cheaper, faster, easier to manufacture and manhandle , all geared up for the tremendous effort needed for the heavier and longer freight trains to get going from a standstill, they were the diameter demigods death knell and wheely were all torque and no slipping.
Including the NYC Hudson, or a Pennsy GG1 ?!
@@MarkInLAyes, by miles! English locomotives have an unbeatable elegance.
The Stirling single, arguably one of the best singles. One might say it's a "hit single".
hahaha amen to that!!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The most beautiful one to me is the Midland Spinner (something Rapido could try in the future), but the Stirling Single is a top contender.
Bust my arms!
@@SamsTrainsI want you have express videos uploaded every Monday, okay?
It's just a single axle.
Do you even remember what your budget was for a video 10 years ago?
haha no - I doubt I had video budgets back then!!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Same as now, none existent
We don't really have any of these type steam engines like this in the United States.But these types (emily) always reminded me of the old steam powered paddle boats on the mississippi. With the one big driver wheel almost resembles the paddle on the side of a steam ship.
We do have singles in the US - C. P. Huntington is a 4-2-4 tank locomotive, on display at the California State Railroad Museum. Its sister locomotive, T. D. Judah, was later converted into a 4-2-2 tender locomotive which is the same wheel configuration as the Stirling Single.
Yeah, Britain's got us picked when it comes to steam engines.
@@joeleboeuf But US had such a variety of unique locomotives. Colorful streamliners galore. Massive articulated freight locomotives, and all-purpose 4-8-4s. All the way down to Shay, Heisler and Climax logging locomotives.
@@PhilBender612 Also look up the New York Central and Hudson River Railroad No. 999, that's probably the closest to being the American counterpart. 4-4-0 with 7.2ft driving wheels. Alleged to be the first locomotive to reach 100 mph.
@@kkobayashi1 I'd say our diesels are cool as well. The early streamliners definitely had some elegance to them, and even the more modern road switchers, while almost utilitarian to a fault, are hard *not* to imagine pulling (and/or pushing) a massive freight train.
Ya know what Sam. Your the only UK model train channel i watch. Your funny, your very knowledgeable. Soci guess OO is HO or close to it but i know you guys run a different voltage too. The love British designed locomotive. That just have class. Yall build alot of locos thaclt are just beautiful. And you guys have vibrant livery colors. Most American steam locomotive were in black or grey. Love your content.
@@anthonyj.adventures9736 I recommend Jenny Kirk's channel as well
00 gauge uses H0 gauge track it's the same, we can run American H0 scale locos here in the UK, and you can run 00 gauge UK locos on your HO track...what are you waiting for..??👍
The dc outputs from the power supplies are the same in the uk and us. I have run uk in the us and vice versa without issue. Same with N.
Port of par 0-4-0 review when they release? Need some western engine reviews
i was a volunteer at the nrm locomotion, i helped restore the original tender, so when Rapido turned up to scan the stirling single i was over the moon at the prospect of being able to buy a model of this stunning locomotive. i am very happy with my model but i do have two points that i think for me anyway would of made the model that bit better.
1. I would of liked Rapido or Locomotion models to offer a version with both tenders as the real one in the nrm collection now has two tenders although there not displayed together with one being in storage at shildon.
2. In the sturrock original tender on the left hand side of the loco theres a little memorial to Lesslie Warriner one of the volunteers who worked on the restoration of the tender, sadly he passed away just before the restored locomotive and tender were reveled to the public, hence the memorial to this great man who put in many hours of hard work to get the tender to the condition it is in now. i would of liked to of seen this memorial on the model as a tribute to those that worked to restore the locomotive and tender especially Les.
but other than that i think it has to be the best model from the last ten years that is until recently when Hornby have stole that crown with another model ive wanted since i was a kid, the Locomotion no1.
The capacitors are for DCC stay-alive (powerpack). It's pretty common to use a DC-to-DC converter along with low voltage supercapacitors to implement a DCC stay-alive. The capacitors are charged to their rated voltage, and when needed, the DC/DC boosts the capacitor output to a higher DC voltage. You can buy a controller like that separately, like the Zimo STACO series.
Thanks a lot for sharing - that makes sense!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
It could be argued that the main thing which caused the Singles to become obsolete, wasn't the performance of locomotives like the Atlantics (4-4-2), but rather the development in carriage types. When the Singles first came into service, the type of passenger cars they pulled, were relatively small six wheel cars, or very early small bogie cars. However, as development progressed, by even the early 1900's, designs had progressed to the point that rolling stock was getting bigger, and by extension much more heavy. Having a single drive axle, regardless of how large the wheels are on that axle, would mean you have a rather limited amount of tractive effort that could be used, and in turn, you'd have severe limitations on the capability of the locomotive. Meaning that while the idea "worked" it didn't really work as long when compared with other designs. The total life span being just 37 years at best, and 21 years at worst. (1870-1916 vs 1895-1916). Compare this with some of the 0-6-0 goods engines from around the same period, which continued working well into the 20th century, and in some cases, well into the nationalization period; and well you can see the issue. It may be a rather nice locomotive, but as designs go, it's something of a 'dead end'. In that there really wasn't much anyone could do to actually 'improve' the design. Other companies did try this from time to time, with limited success... but given that by 1928 the whole idea was abandoned by the various railroads, and not expanded on further (as happened with other locomotive designs with multiple drivers), then the design was largely obsolete by the time it was introduced.
Meaning, neat idea, but couldn't keep up with developments.
Great comment, cheers!
The finish on that loco looks amazing
It's here! And it's beautiful!!
It sure is!! :D
Been hoping we’d get to see a Stirling Single on this channel one day.
Honestly my favorite steam engine ever there just so majestic to look at and we’re a key step into the future of Express engines of the LNER.
haha yeah it's about time - majestic really is the word!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
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Oh definitely this model is definitely worth the price. I’m actually was a bit surprised during the running part Emily was either in the background or pulling a set of coaches as well.
An amazing video and can’t wait to see what you do next.
I have one, I lucked out and mine does have the screws. I have loved these since I found a Kitmaster one assembled at a show 20 years ago. It had gotten damaged, but I still have it. I have not been able to run this one yet, my layout is under construction. Watching the video is mesmerizing
i've got mine & i love it. Though mine was missing the screws to attach the splashers so i contacted rapido who sent some spares in the mail & i've now got them attached. The splashers dont catch on the wheels for my layout as i have very gental curves
Helpful comment,thank you!
Well done Sam I'm glad ye finally managed to get a Stirling Single since they ate my favourite class of British steam locomotive
Remember that in real life, this loco usually only pulled 4 and 6 wheel non bogie coaches. I remember seeing the Sterling Single when it was running on the GC at Loughborough. Firebox glow is fine, but remember normally steam locomotives usually ran with the firebox door closed, except when the fireman was stoking it. So this model is more realistic when it comes to this feature.
I doubt that the Stirling single will be beaten by anything this year, this might just be the best model I've seen on your channel. It seems to me that Rapido are making a serious attempt at becoming the best manufacturer in the UK! Very thorough review as always Sam.
I think the J70 was better , more detail but okay
@ yeah I completely forgot about that, also the Jones Goods could be a good candidate
Ok . This is DEFINITELY one of the contenders. For being my FIRST train.
How lovely.. that is some quality work right here
hahaha fantastic - yeah you won't be disappointed with one of these!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Re firebox lighting - When a steam loco is actually moving (other than possibly shuffling itself round a loco shed) then the door to the firebox MUST BE CLOSED! Otherwise the entire fire (coals etc gets sucked through the boiler and out the chimney).
However if the door closes off the fire completely there may be insufficient air (i.e. oxygen) entering the firebox - so most firebox doors are constructed with flaps, smaller openings, gaps round the side etc which can be adjusted by the fireman to let some oxygen in - and its through these gaps which the glow of the firebox should be seen - not a whacking great glowing opening. This model by Rapido therefore does a great job of replicating how a real steam loco firebox looks when its in motion - unlike pretty much every other model with 'firebox glow' on the market.
Great comment, I've always wondered about that! Makes much more sense to model it in the closed position.
Man, I have never seen a more beautiful loco than this.
I'm willing to bet this is going to be in Sam's 2025 edition of Best Model Trains!
I agree Louie - possibly the most beautiful I've ever seen too!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Been waiting for this model, too! Thanks for the update, I just ordered it with flicker firebox, stay alive and cab light. Cannot wait to get it!
Probably the only locomotive I would ever consider paying over £200 for. Such a stunner and much better than a lot of other £200+ models available.
Yeah absolutely - this is what a £200 loco should look like!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I'm surpised you didn't buy one sooner Sam (massive price aside), and it looks absolutely top notch. Rapido and GNR seems to be a good mix, and hopefully the J13 follows suit. I could see them making a model of "Henry Oakley" at some point in the future.
I was seriously tempted - but glad I waited and got this one!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I recieve mine tomorrow i am so excited, greetings from Mexico
Really enjoyed this, hits all the marks for me;
-A fantastic product, which you were suitably impressed by.
-Finding and reporting genuine issues but not overdoing it.
-Generally objective and consistent tests across all model reviews, allowing honesty.
Keep them coming, they’re among the best product reviews on youtube regardless of which hobby!
I've seen the real thing at York in 2023 and I think the fascination behind the Stirling Single is the combination of the striking green livery, combined with the fact that it is the basis for Emily (which makes it recognizable to the children) and the huge driving wheel. I stood next to this engine and was blown away by the size of it and the very impressive speed of 85mph back in the late 1870s. I wish it would be restored to operational condition. This model from Rapido looks absolutely stunning. I had no idea it was all metal including the tender. Though the lack of screws for the splashers and the inbalance is very annoying. Though for the latter you can adjust or trim the spring a little bit and maybe improve it like that. But yeah, I would contact Rapido to get a new detail pack as I am curious how the tolerance of the splashers are on second radius curves and inclines. But besides, innovative model with the connector especially for way back then. I can see why it would have cost as much as it did back then. I still think it's worth it. But yeah all in all, just like the Jones Goods, 9/10 for me. Rapido is upping their game I think after the sloppy mess of the E-Class and the 15xx Pannier. Their next big project, the SECR 01 and later on the USATC-S160 will be quite promising if this one is anything to go by. I was really looking forward to this review and it was worth the wait. What a fantastic model and a in-dept review, Sam 👍👍
Great review as always Sam! I treated myself to the locomotion models version, since I've only ever seen the real one with the larger tender, and... wow. Just an incredible model. Amazing performance and absolutely beautiful. Glad you liked yours too!
Ahh fantastic - so glad you were happy with it too - well worth it!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I wish it was available in N scale. I visited it at the NRM two years ago. It's one of the most beautful pieces of machinery I've ever seen!
The final trio of superbly elegant models and Hattons and Hornby Genesis coaches looked stunning. This was a thoroughly enjoyable video. I haven’t run my Rapido Stirling yet; I’ll have to watch out for missing splashes packs and the front bogie problem. Thank you once again Sam
I converted an Emily by printing a boiler cover, and making two working amps on the front. Installed a DCC in the tender with the speaker half out the bottom.
Stirling Singles are definitely some of my absolute favourite engines. They're so elegant, and are very distinctive compared to most other engines. The model is probably too expensive and delicate for me though, so I'd probably go for Emily. 😅
I don't blame you - amazing aren't they! Yeah quite delicate... Emily is much simpler and cheaper for sure!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I received my model of this locomotive over a week ago. A beautiful looking model
Fantastic to hear that - amazing aren't they!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Finally, you got the Stirling Single model from Rapido, Sam. It is a fantastic detailed model and its performance is superb. I do have to agree with you about the mechanism, it is a pretty good mechanism but to get its pick-ups cleaned is going to be difficult because of the break rigging being in the way. It may be expensive but still, it is a fantastic model from Rapido.
finally they produced models of one of the most gorgeous steam locomotives there is in Britain! this is gorgeous!
I hope someday soon I'll get my hands on one even tho in not British but Hungarian
great Video Sam as always!
Good god this makes me 10x more excited to get my hands on the one I've got in my TMC Trunk.
Given the open nature of the cab, it really needs Engineer and Fireman figures!
Not a train modeller Sam but what a very comprehensive and well thought out manual
Single wheelers are such lookers, and this one is no exception, saw the real No.1 at the NRM years ago, she’s a beauty for sure!
They really are - I remember seeing her too - gorgeous!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
This makes me think I’d love to see a new tool of the Caledonian Single. I don’t have any other Caledonian stock but I’d certainly buy one given the price was reasonable.
Not my preferred era but all reviews are appreciated. Quality, within & across manufacturers, is broader than ever I imagined.. life seemed so much simpler, as a 10 yo.
Glad you liked it anyway - I always think a quality model is enjoyable whatever it is!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hi Sam. Yes, lovely loco but, like you, screws for the splashers were missing. To be fair, once I'd informed Rapido, they dispatched some to me in short order.
Splashers now fitted but yet to test positioning of them on some R2 curves.
Firebox flicker though is barely detectable unless you're at the perfect angle to view. Mine is DCC fitted and the sound is fine.
Overall very happy with it. A great loco.
Thanks Steve - hopefully I can get some too and give it a try on R2! Yes the firebox glow is an odd design... not sure why they set out to do that... but I have to say I quite enjoy the subtlety of the effect!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I haven't been able to run my sterling single yet, so great to know it has a firebox glow as i thought it didn't. And good to know about that front boogie. Think I'll fit a small spring. Thanks for a great review.
That was truly beautiful, Sam. _Loving_ the detail on the hinged cab windows, maker's details on the main-wheel-arches , ...and that firebox flicker! Real shame about the screws, _and_ the seam on the chimney!🤦🏻♂
Finally we get the Emily review Sam! 🎉
I have an inkling she’ll definitely end up in the Top 5 models this year ❤
haha absolutely - got there in the end!!
Great video. The 4 splasher screws were missing on mine too. I called Rapido and they told me that a batch had been erroneously shipped without them. They quickly sent me some and I fitted the splashers (bit fiddley). When moved to the outermost position, they don't seem to obstruct the wheels on 2nd radius curves. That position isn't quite prototypical but it still looks OK to my eye.
This is an Absolutely Stunning Model. Definetly a good choice on Rapidos Part for bringing it back.
Thanks Stan it sure is - a very good choice!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
What a looker 😮. I think I would have to sort that bogie spring out, it would drive me potty even if the loco ran perfectly.
I got a good chuckle from the naming of your hand-built locomotive your “Problem Class”!! 😆
This stirling single is a stunning and a splendid loco! Thank you for reviewing it Sam!❤
It's a pleasure - she really is! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Mine came in last week, and I absolutely love it. Bit tricky in reverse, but I like running engines forward anyway.
Much as I would’ve liked the original release, maybe Rapido can announce the 80s tender on its own. Best of both worlds, uh, eras.
We need American singles in HO. Ya hear me, Bachmann, HO singles. C. P. Huntington’s a good place to start.
Thanks David so glad you like it - ahh well at least it's okay forwards!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Fantastic! What a sight to see this model in action.
Good work as always Sam. It was worth the wait for your opinion. And just the model you need after the Leader Class disaster.
Guess you can call this a...STIRLING Review!
... I'll throw myself out!
Absolutely - seeing her in action is stunning - a huge relief after the Leader!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Absolutely love the livery and how old fashioned it looks
That is an absolutely beautiful steam engine. Probably like most, my introduction to this locomotive was on Thomas And Friends. I run N Scale, I would love to find this locomotive in that scale
Enjoyed that, it’s nice to see somebody not being disappointed after a long wait for a model.
Ref the missing screws, might well be worth a message to Rapido, by reputation their customer service is quite good?
Seeing the old model for 400 quid was terrifying but since my usual model shop stocked a couple of the new run at a decent price and as an LNER and NER addict I couldn’t help myself, safe to say it was more than worth it.
haha glad to hear you went for it - I think it's worth it too! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
It would be nice if they sold the different tenders separately so you could make the loco up for what year you wanted.
See actual video.. not compatible..
Yeah that would be interesting - though the instructions suggest that could be a problem with the fallplates!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Absolutely can’t wait for mine to turn up - I sprung for the Locomotion version, preferred the tender on that one.
Ahh fantastic you were able to get one - I don't think you'll be disappointed!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
This is a stunning locomotive with excellent quality. I do think I would have fixed the front 2 axel assembly spring by cutting as you suggested but I know after paying over 200 for it I think I can let you off the hook. One question I had that you did not answer was whether you could see the fire box effect under the locomotive as in the real deal. I enjoyed the video so great review and introduction to this loco, Jersey Bill
I think so too - I might look at swapping the spring out for a weaker one... just in case it goes wrong then I can revert back haha!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrainsGood plan, Sam!
The Single is for the single driven axle as opposed to the wheel
Ahh but then it'd be a single-axler... not a single wheeler ;)
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains they're not called single-wheelers. they're called single drivers, after the single driving wheel....
They’re known as single wheelers!
Did you see Lawries Video on detailing up those LNER teaks?
That sounds good I'll have to look that up!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Literally commented about this yesterday lol. So glad you reviewed it
haha yeah - you called, I answered!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Awesome video today Sam what a beautiful modle really want one
For the capacitors in the tender the circuit board has some sort of voltage limiting circuit that allows it to use those smaller caps for keep alive purposes
Interesting! So do these have stay alive when chipped then?
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Yes they do
Hi Sam, I think I saw all the engines in the background. It was the Caledonian single in LMS Maroon and Caledonian Blue, & Stephenson's rocket. Hopefully I got them all right.
Cheers Jasper & Willow
Got one with the large Stirling tender, yes it is a beautiful model,had mine since summer 2018,from the NRM.Came with screws fitted for the front bogie splashers, but those side chains for the buffer beams..very difficult to fit,tiny short lugs to fit in the locating holes, still have not fitted them.The axle ends are not blackened on mine,and the accessory pack contains an etch with four circular discs to fit over the driving axle ends ,the two extra just in case you lose one or two, haven't fitted these either!
Decent video here Sam, might look at getting one of these but for me I would want it in NRM condition which means I would be buying it from the Railway Museum, with regards to your comments about this yes this may be cheaper as a general release but when it comes to the museum models which the first release of these were the money is actually going to them which in turn helps the museum to operate, it’s basically like you say it’s better buying from a shop instead direct from the manufacturer,I have bought models from the National Railway Museum, my Bachmann V2 Green Arrow is one I bought from the York base a couple of years ago, you do pay high when buying from the museum but the money goes to them and a great cause.
Thanks David - yes the NRM version is available too I think - and definitely good that money goes to the museum, but it's nice to have the choice for those on more of a budget!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
With that cab it really needs a crew.
A beautiful loco and well worth the wait. Any chance in the future if showing it to us again with splashers fitted and the front spring trimmed or replaced to demonstrate increased performance? Cheers!
Yeah sure - I'm hoping Rapido will send me some screws and then I can give it a go!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Possibly one of the greatest releases of the 21st century - and Rapido nailed it in two versions.
Comparing mine which arrived today to the KR models leader which arrived at the start of the week and it’s like chalk and cheese.
I think so too - a stunning loco, and couldn't be more different from the Leader!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
It is a lovely locomotive and very popular
Very much so!
Great model and yes my splashes screws are missing as well.
This model is an absolute stunner. It's definitely one of Rapido's best 👍.
I'm planning to have my review finished and uploaded by the end of the week.
Yeah definitely - mind blowing in every way!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
An beautiful engine which I adore, just ordered my museum condition which im waiting for it to arrive
Excellent review, Sam. Please could you give us an update on the servicing aspect when you're brave enough to have a go at it?!
Cheers,
Tim
I truly love these well done videos! Thank you!
Thank you so much! :D
@SamsTrains You are very welcome! Thanks Again!
Its crazy how quickly these sold out
Emily used to be one of my favourite characters from Thomas. Is it just me or do the manufacturers tend to do more Thomas bases these days? Maybe it's just a side effect of them moving their attention to more pregrouping/industrial locos. Whatever the reason Rapido's Stirling Single, J70 and their upcoming Alfred & Judy won't be as popular if not because of Thomas. Unfortunately I won't be getting the Stirling Single this time but I do wish to get Alfred or Judy later this year. :)
Yeah I like Emily too - and I think they probably keep Thomas in mind with some choices... like you say lots of locos from Thomas have been done!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I’m kind of disappointed that Accurascale isn’t doing the Hunslet Austerity in the Wilbert livery. It’s actually a real loco.
They'll definitely do another batch of them at some point. Yah I know about the Wilbert Austerity, had been made by DJ/EFE I think.
I know it's late, but Happy Chinese New Year. Hope it brings you health and wealth.🎉
As of today, mine is in US customs coming from Hereford Models; excellent, fast service. I have generally made it a habit to wait for your reviews before springing for a new loco, but other reviews suggested going ahead. Whew! Good on ya, lad.
With the trailing wheels being powered, wouldn't that make the model itself a 4-4-0?
Very nice to see this class join your collection. I actually sort of had Emily on my mind after listening to an audio story of her first Christmas party on Sodor.
I struggled to find the odd one out if there was one. Among singles, I saw the Caley, a red one, and a Rocket. Was the odd one on the turntable? I couldn't see the wheels that well to identify what it was.
Awesome video Sam
Thanks Brian!
@SamsTrains you're welcome Sam 😊
Absolutely excellent. I have one of the originals in one of the excellent display cases I purchase from Gaz Oakley. I have had the accessory pack fitted by Steve Johnson of Grimy Times fame as I find fitting so fiddly.
Thanks for the review Sam.
Yes I have one it’s fantastic.
Awesome George - glad you like yours too!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Strange that there's no firebox flicker. I own the original which I was able to purchase during a visit to York a few years ago, and it does have a firebox flicker! I wonder why this amendment was made.
There is a firebox flicker - the firebox door is just modelled in the closed position for some reason!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains I got mine today and I didn't notice the firebox glow until you mentioned it in your review, so I checked back on some video I took and indeed it's there. It's nicely done to satisfy the people who complain that the firebox door wouldn't be open all the time.
Hello Sam Yes @ 3:34 I saw your Dapol Track Cleaner sneaking past in the back ground!!! What A Lovely Loco - Runs smoothly 🙂🚂🚂🚂
I noticed that too
Also when you mentioned the bullied leader a link to that video popped on my screen
As a fan of the Fallout games, I will always always see GNR as Galaxy News Radio! XD I know this is a locomotive, not a post apocalyptic radio station
Completely off topic in relation to this video, but have you ever thought of building a layout as a "series" for youtube? I know you're more rolling stock orientated, but a layout series could be cool with your presenting style.😊
Thanks so much - yes I'm hoping to do that some day! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hi Sam, lovely loco and review,,I have been waiting to here your opinion of this Single for yonks, so marvellous and glad you like it. I was lucky enough to pick up one of the first batch at an Antique auction just over 2yrs ago...at a steal 👍.... After seeing the balance issue with the front bogey and driver I've tested mine and its not the same , yes the front bogey is quite nicely sprung , but pushing down on the smokebox shows there is no movement on the main drive wheels at all. Loco just pivots on them and lifts the rear wheels..in theory it should pull better, so later this evening I'll stick all my teaks behind it and see how many it will pull before wheelslip occurs......👍 Great review and pleased you loved this model...course its a favourite...😄
Thanks so much Mark - that's very interesting - the spring is mightily strong on mine - is that not the case with the first batch then? Thanks for sharing,
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@SamsTrains Just had another look, I would say the spring is a nice bit weaker..so placing it on the track the front bogey moves up a couple of mm and the main driver wheels touch the rails ok. If I put a piece of paper under the front bogey it very nearly hits the top of its suspension travel and yet drive wheels still sit correctly on the rails....
It appears the spring on mine is well designed to keep the bogey on the track with no lifting or taking the weight off the main drive wheels ...
@@SamsTrains 8 Hornby Teak's , runs well , lovely wheel slip on starting then perfectly fine on straights and minor curves but a bit of wheel slip again on a series of 'S' curves. Bends and curves are majority 3rd radius plus some 2nd radius....Don't think it would pull 8 coaches up Gordon's hill...but it wouldn't be far away, Thanks again Sam
45:24 i still question how Sam did this shot of the looping passenger train and the goods train never ending. How?
Lucky you to have got yours already!
I know I do feel very lucky!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
i have just ordered my second usa tank and i think you should rereview them and nice video
Ooh excellent - I might look into that yeah! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
What a lovely model...!! Now we need a truly modern Dean Single, and one of the Johnson Singles from the Midland Railway. A Stroudley Single would be a bit too much to ask for... 😜
Incidentally, do you realise that you have the same loco twice on the layout? The maroon LMS Caley Single is actually the same loco as the Caley blue one...!!
From seeing other reviews the front bogie spring is an issue. On some it lifts the front drivers, on others it lifts the under cab driving axle. If the locating screw is a self tapping then backing off or screwing in should work as long as the pivoting is not effected. Adding weight round the motor inside the boiler will bring the big wheels down, or shorten the spring in increments of 1/4 or 1/2 turns. A shim under the front spring will bring the back wheels down. It obviously needs the easiest of solutions because wear may tilt the balance of the loco through time used.
26:40 ah the sam's trains certified magnetic screw driver. I cant complain it works.
She is crying out for a rake of 6 wheel coaches. If she was mine I would adjust the front spring. When she ran in the “race to the north” era a rake of 20 6 wheelers was not unusual - so she should haul much better! Thanks for the Review, Sam!
Yeah definitely! And I'm going to try a different weaker spring when I get around to it and test again - don't think it'll be a big deal... 20 6 wheelers should be no problem with that mod!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I managed to get hold of this loco it runs great my only problem was with the connection on the loco i only pulled them apart a couple of times the only trouble was i had to put some epoxy on the loco side to stop it moving and having a good connection apart from that runs great.
Hi Sam, really beautiful locomotive but way above my budget, but it's great to see you review it none the less.👍
Thanks for the comment - yeah that's understandable - it's a heck of a lot of money!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Excellent finish : Rapido had cranked up the things with this one ! That's good news for the forthcoming models (44xx GWR small Prairie e. g.). Only critical point, the serviceability, everything else is spot on. I am not interested in this model, but if Rapido can keep the quality the reached here on their forthcoming models, that would be great.
Thanks Oliver they certainly did - great news for what's coming next... fingers crossed they keep it up!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
most beautiful and graceful steam loco ever built......and great model too.....cheers.....but my cupboard is "full".....haha
Would love if Rapido did another run with different singles with the bigger tenders (or smaller, fun fantasy schemes)
This loco definitely contends with other ones for being the best model for the OO market. It honestly rivals most of Bachmann’s diesels for that title.