Engineering Student Reacts to Bad Engineering Advice
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- Опубликовано: 23 фев 2021
- In this video, I react and correct some claims that Matt Tran from “Honest Careers”, formerly known as “ENGINEERED TRUTH” says about the engineering major. As an engineering student who’ll be graduating soon, I discuss my perspective of some of the things he says about studying engineering and working as an engineer. This is obviously not a hate video, but I just provide a realistic picture of what studying and working as an Engineer is like. Timestamps are as follows:
00:32 Video 1: Don’t Major in Engineering - Well Some Types of Engineering
06:19 Video 2: How I Got Fired from my 1st Engineering Internship
09:07 Video 3: Only 1 out of 10 Engineering Grads will work as an Engineer
12:43 Summary
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I like how you criticized his advice with reason and logic without attacking him and staying as objective/unbiased as possible, not putting down other career paths at the expense of engineering. Kudos to you.
Thanks and yea I tried to be as respectful as possible :)
@@TamerShaheen at the end you had me laughing.
Beginning was informative and helpful and you were really calm
Middle was somewhat the same
But by the end you were done with his bs😂
I mean the asian guy is right to some extent because if anything that Ai and robotics will easily automate will be anything with math and numbers anything mechanical its only a matter of time before entire factories are completely automated that is just a fact so engineering jobs will be a thing of the past, I have more of future in the long run serving tacos to other humans. The only missing part is enough powerful nano chips to process the masses of information and some type of Ai logic to put it all together.. The only thing here is how long till this chips are available in the real world but engineers have been working on nano technology for years now..
@@RM360CR well, you are assuming that engineers just do math and physics and that's it.
the thing is, engineers do not even do any calculation at all themselves (of course this depends on the type of engineering you are talking about), they already rely on machines to do the calculations and even simulations.
engineering is just like programming, you have some knowledge of maths, physics, chemics and other stuff, and combine this knowledge in a "creative" way to "intentionally invent something new and useful'.
AI will almost never replace creative work. saying that AI will replace engineering is just like saying that AI will replace programming. both involve intentional creativity to invent something new and useful, something AI cannot and will never do, at least maybe 50-100 years from now.
@@m0st4fabideer14 Nice write up.
Moral: Every job is hard but you chose the hard that best works for you
Or just don't but drunk on Thursday and be late for work/afk lul.
Advice so bad his channel no longer exists
😂😂😂
The difference is that there is 35 million youtubers and less than 1% are successful, in comparison over 95% of engineers are employed.
perfectly said 👌
0.02% of channels out their got 1 mil sub at least
@@ko-Daegu to be fair, the study probably taking about youtude account and I imagine 90% of youtude accounts never made a public video. But yeah, Engineering is very secure as a job
So basically what Matt is saying is he was not ready for a real world job, where he had to be at work at a certain time like all his co workers, and because he has no work ethics he should have been given some sort of privilege and let him do what he wants because reasons? lazy bum wants to be given money for nothing. In his original video he talks about how he partied while receiving unemployment and it is what he wanted to do the whole time😆 that’s a man child.
Haha honest breakdown
😂😂
So true! This guy is just lazy af!
Yea I am an engineering student in uni and I go to university for about 56 hours a week. Personally I don't find it that bad, yea like it's tough but doable as long as you have a normal work ethic.
I think a better approach for him would have been to make a video like “Why Engineering isn’t for everyone” rather than “Don’t Major in Engineering” and then explain what he didn’t like about engineering. He just used one bad experience to make it seem like the entire field and industry was bad.
Won't be a good thumbnail to rake in those views
Keep it up man
We are ENGINEERS
You are really making a difference
Appreciate it!
to be honest majority don't and the rest either do in a bad way or a difference towards the worse
only a handful of eng in every country actually carry it
Let me tell you, I had no internships, but ended up graduating with a 3.0+ gpa. The first year of applying to jobs I got a few calls but nothing serious. I took a break and flew out of the country, then after almost a year I applied and got many calls for entry level jobs in engineering, management, etc. starting at 60-70k, plus No experience. Currently working as a plant engineer, focusing on manufacturing and managing.
don't be afraid to apply to jobs, your degree shows skills that you might not even know about and your future could not necessarily be for you to be a mechanical engineer but that Degree will definitely put you in the path on high end jobs.
now I understand why Engineering degrees are in high demand.
I'm the first generation to graduate in my family.
Keep grinding guys. Focus on the big picture, don't let anyone discourage you and let life do his thing. 😎💪
This is encouraging 😢 I wanted to give up
Before, but I have a question how do you overcome the confusion of choosing between computer engineering and mechanical engineering
@@abbaemmanuel3450 If I were you I would go for the title that lets you be more marketable. That's why I chose my major because it's a well know major amongst people in general but if I were to chose civil engineering I would just be limited to Construction and traffic related industries. A mechanical engineering degree gives you more room to juggle and it looks much more impressive on the resume on the eyes of recruiters. Once you on the market, you gotta impress recruiters and sell yourself though your resume and your interview skills that come naturally with practice. But Also if you want to become a computer engineer and that's your dream ultimately, I would go for that major.
@@Eljefe5948 I really appreciate your thoughts and response, thanks 🙏 I will go with mechanical engineering
What happened to him occurred to me as well. I was fired for the first time from my 2nd internship because of bad work ethic. It took me 2 years to move on from that experience. Worst part of my life was when the dean of civil engineering told me in person that I'm getting kicked out from the program because of many dropped courses. Again, bad work ethic! It also took me a few months to figure out what it is that I wanted to do so I worked in fast food jobs. Then I realized, "maybe the reason why I kept giving up in CE is because I'm more into other fields of engineering."
See, the difference between me and him is that I didn't give up. I'm slowly changing. I'm pursuing a major in mechanical engineering not only because of the money I can or will make for working 40 hrs a week, but also because I like the job that I have. Best part is that I'm contributing to the creation of something. :) Also, I agree with you especially on the part about talking to the managers if we don't like what we're doing.
In addition, I was also afraid that I wouldn't get a job in engineering earlier in my college years. To my surprise, I got my first one year internship in my 2nd year in college. You never know what happens. Keep doing your best future engineers! I'll do the same.
Thanks for sharing ur story :)
Thanks sharing. I also facing similar situation with yours. I currently also work on an Power Plant Project although not as Civil engineer. However, I think I will still hold on to it while simultaneously try new things to find out I am best at.
That tattoo was definitely really cringe. I feel sad that there's people like him putting people down just because he was miserable, probably uncapable of. Everyone is definitely capable, it depends on your approach on life, on your attitude. You have to work hard for everything in life, not just engineering, and engineering is definitely a very fulfilling area to work in. He probably wants everything easy and ready and give low to 0 effort. That's the kind of people I disrespect
Yea agreed, so just tryna make my own engineering content to repair the damage he might’ve done to the engineering community 😅
This guy gives all the Matt Trans in the world a bad rep. Aka me. I'm also an Engineer.
HAHA 😆 I’m sure not all Matt Trans are the same
Thanks for informing us it’s really helpful
Great work! All valid points.
You’re one of the good ones. Keep up the smart work.
As a fellow mechanical engineer, I can say you definitely have a mechanical engineer mindset rather than the other guy, especially on how you handle data/facts. He suffers from confirmation bias. He didn't seem to learn much from engineering school. Thanks for video. This should help future engineers or scientists pursuing this field.
As an optical engineering major, I just wanted to say I love your videos! You remind me why I got into engineering and it really helps me be able to look at the broader picture when getting into the field. But my god thank you for correcting his poor researching skills lol
Mech e is such a diverse field like you were saying, but also even if you want to start a buisiness getting a mech e degree can put you in a position where you have in depth knowledge of a certain field/buisiness that alot of other ppl don't have, knocking out alot of competition
I'm a freshman ME major and having a blast! I've loved all your RUclips videos and TikToks. You've been helpful and offer a lot of encouragement. Could you talk about an engineering portfolio/CV in a future video? Thanks for all you do!
Glad u like my videos! I actually made a video about that stuff already...but I can make more about it too
"Thinking as a Engineer" is a super power. I can literlly conquer any field in months.
Haha facts
Nicely put
I'm from India and this kinda people exist.......they push you to opt coding and IT job, even if r from mechanical,civil or electrical engineering........i really appreciate your video 🙌
Honestly, I prefer the cubicle farm to the open desk. It's hard to concentrate when you can see everyone.
In another video, you stated certain students enrolled in engineering aren’t necessarily passionate about engineering, but rather were just good at math and science in highschool. This guy seems to be one of those people. When you have a genuine interest in how things work/the function of the things we use everyday, nothing can stop you from making it as an engineer.
Underrated channel!
Thanks :)
Nice video man! Can you make a video about what majors you should major in, like different majors.
Sure
I agree a lot with Matt Tran here. The thing is the engineering market is very saturated today. If you want to study engineering thats fine. But only do it if you really like it. So if you like the idea of space, cars, etc then sure. But in my case I only studied mechanical engineering because I was promised plenty of jobs.
This was not the case however, the market was very saturated and so I should have chosen something easier. But if you actually like engineering and you also have talent for it, then by all means go for it.
It sounds like he wants an easy way to be rich, but that is not how the world works. Do you really expect to get $100K just by doing the bare minimum? No way in the world would you ever be paid $100K simply by sitting on a couch and eating pizza all day. His work ethic is absolutely terrible! If he showed up on time and worked extra hours, he could have been promoted!
That’s true
say that to twitch streamers or people doing muckbangs 🤣
Another option: work your butt off in engineering for a few years (40hrs/week)
While you build your "side hustle" and resume (30hrs/wk). Then you have financial stability, experience to fall back on, and the money to invest into that side work
Love that
Thanks. Video was needed. So much misinformation out there. Especially from this guy.
5:09 Plus, the data for the Entry level position is on the right hand corner, only about half half the salary of a Senior. Even a Entry Level Web Developer is undoable with just three months
Thankyou, Tamer for making this video and bringing the reality. I have been following Jake Voorhees before knowing your channel. Is his videos reliable watching?
U can see the hard work in the bags under your eyes mate
I’m a data scientist. Yes, the pay is better. Yes, the demand is great. But the constant learning curve is high; I’ve seen dudes who were impressive data scientists in 2011 be useless by 2021, because they lost ground to their peers. And also, it’s not like you’ll be working on revolutionary stuff. Most of the jobs will be trying to make people click on ads, or how much to spend on a campaign, or what factors influence performance the most, or analyzing cost/revenue numbers in an A/B test, or something else like that. You’re probably going to be bored and not all that fulfilled.
Meanwhile, would you like to do something cool, like work for an auto racing team, or on aerospace design, or defense contracting? Would you like the potential to work projects globally? You can do that with engineering degrees.
I know Tran is long gone, but his love of anti-engineering rhetoric, only to redirect people to fields with slightly more demand and slightly more income, isn’t all that helpful. Especially if they hate it. And the engineering job being “boring” isn’t a good reason; the web development job will often be boring as well. You’ll be even more bored if you hate the job, though
Thanks for sharing ur point of view and I totally agree with it!
Love this man, still in highschool and this guy discouraged me a little! ;)
I love the way u think bro 👏 👏
♥️ this channel
I live in Western Washington and a quick search showed plenty of entry level ME job listing and some are even close to my home.
Tamer, I would like to express my heartfelt gratitude for making this video. When I was in 8th grade in 2016, I did not know everything I know now to criticize Engineered Truth logically. But I still knew that something wasn't right about this guy. Today, you did the right thing by pointing out his errors. In the future, thousands of kids would be helped because your video will save you from them using crappy hate videos that Engineered Truth makes.
Let's be honest , Matt just hates engineering itself. He needs to rethink it all.
The same arguments can be found in any other professional program. So my question always is, what other subject matters that you have learned in the course of your professional degree can you also use to earn a living. A friend of mine got his Chemical Engineering degree major and a business minor. He ended up doing project management and financing startups. Never spent a day make tonnage of poly ethylene or some other widely used materials for manufacturing. So what the engineering degree did for him was to sort through the proposals that were worth funding or not, by crunching through the numbers on Excel or some other spread sheet programs. Was there really going to be a profit made and the money loaned paid back? Was the proposed product to be made real or just fake or junk?
For the Mechanical Engineers I also know, some did make innovative products, some worked on structual building projects and some worked on HVAC System designs and improving air flows and energy use conservation.
Learning another language besides your native one significantly increase options to find work or as one Petroleum Engineer said to me years ago, have your passport in hand, because you never know where in the world you may go for your next assignment. He could effectively communicate in: English, Arabic, French and was learning German. Engineering Principles are universally used on Planet Earth, not just in one country sitting at a desk in from of a computer screen. Same is true with any other Natural Science or Medicine or Pharmacy or Math etc.
Me too dude. I cracked on the second law, LOL. I sat in my home doing nothing for nearly 8 months to pursue a scholarship degree, now I forgot all the basics, but am still left brain dead by the blunder, xDD
Yes man some peeps to engineering hoping to enjoy get good grades but work less
I was just watching his video and listening his advice and then this popped up in my recommend 😂
best channel
we need engineers to make progress in the world
I get that for some people engineering isn’t for them.
A lot of people doing engineering Mech do go into banking, finance, consulting, non-technical fields, IT.
Hard work is the only way
40hrs a week is heaven man. my 1st work was at Construction site as m&e, not that bad actually-66hrs a week is the avg norm. but the work style, the team culture are nice. i only appreciate these after getting into my 2nd job
2nd job, the worst, at a famous korean factory. longest working hour. there was once i had to work for almost 24hr. people are running around due to how hectic and fast pace the work is. it was a culture shock (never work in korean company guys). and i dont feel like eng with the job scope.
3rd job, the best..for the 1st time i feel like eng, i design, i fabricate, i lead field project. make technical report etc. but the company doesnt have financial strength and i was retrench
4th job, i try to get into eng back. but somehow found my way into IT even without it background. but survival is at the essence and i just took the job
my career is such a wild horse. i love engineering and tech. but the eng world seem doesnt love me back. im still hopefully that my current job in it sector will let me back into eng possible one that involve IT+mech eng;robotic maybe i dont know
working with Koreans and Chinese were the worst
- no respect for basic human rights, you get treated like shit
- ego self centered people everywhere just cuz they spent a year or two more than you in the company
- work safely apparently are western stuff and shouldn't exists (want safe work place go to Europe, if I get a won each time I hear this shit)
I'm counting how many times Tameer blinks in a minute and if it was a heart rate he'd be in the middle of a sprint
Engineer Forever and espicialy mechanical engineer and software engineer :) 😍😍😍
You are very intelligent.
so is mechanical engineering a better option to choose ????
I come across this matt trent guy during my second year of uni when I going through a rough patch and wasn't enjoying my aerospace engineering course at all. I was on the verge of dropping out and his constant negative views reinforced the idea engineering isn't for me.
Luckily my stubborn af personality hates giving up so got my shit together 3rd year, and now after 2 years in the industry can honestly say have the most fun job out of all my non engineering friends.
Engineering field isn't the problem, it's the way he (and initially me) approached the problem that was the issue
lmao most of the time I'm also late as an intern but didn't got fired
6:26 what is wrong with Data Entry as an intern?
Poor guy, average of 100k per annum for a senior web designer is on the low end scale of engineering pay after 2 - 3 years.
Also, web designers are constantly having to update their coding repertoire to the latest coding standards.
And their previous experiences may not be relevant moving forwards.
Engineering is the opposite of that where knowledge update means useful experience and your past engineering experience makes you be a better engineer.
Employees pay more for engineering overtime simply because you become a better commodity with experience.
I love how you respond to him but couldn’t finish the video because his voice was not easy to listen to.
When he said that nobody reached out to him to discuss positions he didn't apply for, I laughed, because that literally happened to me this week (I'm a 4th year ME). This guy has no clue what he's talking about.
Have a BE in mech and you're right greetings from Germany
Thanks
My son is 10 and has been interested in engineering since 7 years old. He taught himself to code at 7 and researched schools in Canada that offer engineering programs, LOL that's how I found this channel. My son told me he wanted to attend Uni of Waterloo so here I am doing research on the subject. He prefers math over English, and he loves science but he just has no enthusiasm for school. I'm at a loss and looking for ways to help him.
I’d start by asking him why he’s not interested. I know that in my case it’s because homework and assignments didn’t feel real, they were just hoops to jump through. Might also be worth looking into schools with alternative teaching styles like a Montessori school or something. Another option might be to reward effort at school with electrical kits or other interesting stuff. It’s also worth getting a good idea of how classes are being taught, often times subjects like maths or science are taught in a way that makes them unappealing and boring to most kids. I’m no expert, but those were a few ideas I had.
@@SkigBiggler I appreciate the suggestions. I was curious whether other kids or adults who are interested in these subjects also find school boring and what they or their parents did to make it better. :)
@@venlo7113 While I don't know much about your current circumstance, I am a recently graduated highschool student going into mechanical engineering, so maybe my thoughts could help a little bit? I think that while searching for schools with alternative teaching styles are helpful, it might be difficult to find just the right school with the right teachers. While I didn't find other subjects boring, I did find them to be tedious and preferred to work on more STEM related subjects. I think the main ways to work around that is either finding a school with teachers who are enthusiastic about what they teach, or to just accept it that you might not find everything interesting in highschool or middleschool. However, I will suggest that you try to develop his interests over summer or even during the school year. Camps, small projects, or slightly challenging classes when he's older (if he has the motivation for it, don't burn the passion out), could be a great starting point. Though I can't say for sure.
As a business owner I never would consider that man as an employee. He is arrogant, a lier, and horrible work ethics.
1:40 that's really painfull
I mean it's pretty hard to find work as an engineer these days. Alot of new graduate without at least 2 years of experience find it very difficult even with a masters degree.
who doesnt do the labor intensive, boring work from the start?
But bro Software Developer/Engineer pay like 2-3X more than any mechanical engineer with 1 job in average 😂not to bring up the fact “We can work multiple software Dev jobs Remotely making 700-800K+ to upward 1Million was many”.
Not all engineering in same level. Computer Science + software Engineer > all engineer degree x 10
He has studied engineering and doesn’t know newtons 3rd laws? Come on even I know that as a 8th grader
Just did a one-minute search. The official USLB outlook for mechanical engineers is about 18,000 new jobs a year throughout the decade. Wnere he get 2500 from.
Appreciate the shoutout :) We've got a whole bunch of content lined up for 2021 and it's going to be diving deep into giving a more realistic view of the industry. Good luck with the channel!
We'd love to interview you and get your perspective being a bit earlier in your career, especially in regards to your internship experience.
Yea for sure!
Hahaha your youtube channel is finished. You invested horribly into buying out mattt ttannys youtube channel
@@johnsack6819 lolol matt still owns it
But i think they discontinued it jow
I am working almost 14 hours a day and 7 days of week non stop for months without any brake. And he can't work 40 hours a week. And I am a mechanical engineer. I have great portfolio as well. I have diverse skill set incluiding web development and some graphic desiging and Animations related skills. And i hardly make 10K usd per year
Idk where this 30K number can from but I am a Mechanical Engineer for india and more than 30K students passout as Mechanical Engineer in every single state of our country
It took him 15 minutes to find all that info!!!! Utter BS. Love the video
I was really surprised lool
8:46 😂. Yes agreed
Matt Tran doesn't realize that coding for software engineering is also a form of engineering, just without the physics and chemistry.
Daddy chill 😂
Man make one how u developed coding expertise
Ok I’ll work on that
Be careful this guy doxxes
That guy he's a joke and misleading to new engineering students, especially those who trying to get into engineering
As a frustrated mech engineer who is doing documentation job for years I agree with the bald guy but should I was trying more when I was younger I would have a better position with better salary. The best tip I can give is to never settle with what they offer you always aim to do the stuff you want even if the salary is basic because then you will improve and finally, will both have a great salary, excellent work environment and interesting things to do.
And if you like me are stuck to a boring repetitive job and no one hires you, be the boss of yourself and prepare your own project! there are plenty of needs that us as engineers could find a solution for. At least this what I am going to do in the next 2-3 years from now.
6:55 Tired cos he has to wake up at 6:30?? 😂😂. I am in Year 12 in the UK (13th Grade I think). For the past 5 years I have been waking up at 6. I wake up normal as long as I go bed from 10-11 the night b4 and no later
The fact he didnt even know Newtons Secound law tattooed on him. That's a little embarassing.
Which mechanical engineer doesn't know newton's second law !!?
This dude didn’t know what his own tattoo meant 😅😅😅😅😅😅
Mechanical engineer here graduated 2 yrs ago , with above avergae grade and multiple internships... Hate it say it but, engineering is overrarted , especially mech,, mechanical dont have old charm , and since came of ai and robotics manufavturing.electric cars. Etc mechanical engineering is joblesss.. There are some some engineering degree which ia still best like comptuer scince , electrical engineering , some times depending on area civil engineering . which have more jobs and salary, my frind who was in my college but he switched to comptuer scinece , now he has good jobs and salary.. While me and some of my mechnicl eng graduate are still jobless ,
Here me out guys dont take engineering ,especially mech eng , speaking from expernce .. Most of the enginrg student have above avrge iq , take other stream like CPA , finace which have more job opening and starting salary may be low but at the end you can earn twice as any engineer ... Think twice before picking any engineering.
As developer I can tell you I hate coding with a passion. It fucking destroys your brain and whatever free time you have left at the day becomes pointless. Regardless a job is a job lol your gonna hate 😂
He has fallen into a trap that is very easy for anyone to fall into: He has taken his personal experience as overarching fact
The software engineering take aged like milk.
I used to watch Matt tran video in past. I have a contradict thoughts of him after he seem lack accountability in his action and lie of having engineering degree. Engineering is require high work ethic to get them.
To be honest for every person that listens to that guy, there will potentially be a extra job available for me. Can't complain with free job security.
Imagine getting a tattoo and not confidently knowing what it is about.
🙄
Hi, do you know about McMasters engineering program if you have any friends who go there? And specifically like how the program is in general
Yea in the general program, u just take general eng courses in first year. But, u then have to specialize in a program in second year.
@@TamerShaheen ok thanks
There's engineers and then there's wannabe engineers who do engineering but wish they were doing anything else
He looks like Japnese one puchman😶
Saitama is Japanese tho 🤦♂️
Saitama is Japanese tho 🤦♂️
I knew he was a bozo as soon as he say F=ma is newton first law, by first year you have F=ma by heart
Engineering has a tendency to unemployment and to leave people broke, since everything depends on where the person lives, their contacts and projects end up faster and faster.
Baldi's Basics didn't do his research so I appreciate this video LMAO
4:56
let's look at it from this perspective:
- 113, 900, 000 -> num of channels in youtube.
- 23->24,000 -> channels got 1 mil sub at least approx.
let's take the higher number here 24k
24000/113900000 *100 ~= 0.02%
so about 0.02% of all channel;s actually got 1 mil sub at least (this includes the crazy channels like MrBeast and PewDiePie with 100m+) so chances of making a living with RUclips are not that high I get it 1m doesn't necessary means the only way to be rich out of youtube, example being extremely popular in a poor country still you probably earn almost nothing to live with cuz YT partners prog their sucks, or some people with 100k might actually make crazy money
but this just shows us how crazy are the odds against you in YT
Hahaaha Newton's 1st law?!!😂😂😂
HAHA
The bald guy's not scaeing me joining engineering, you're panda eyes are 🐼 👀
its funny how clearly i can see the difference in how i perceive this baldie (going bald myself no worries ) when i am up and normally going about my day its hilarious to hear this dude talk about WORKING in a job , and when i am down and have taken a few Ls the victim mentality goes super saying mode on hearing this shit
i guess its cause his voice is so passive