Older AMD's APUs (CPU with entry level graphics built-in) are great for Linux, because AMD graphics drivers are open source and BAKED INTO Linux distros. So you don't even gotta grab drivers off the repositories. My laptop, an HP cheapie with AMD Ryzen 5 3500U, runs Mint 21.1 great.
Video is amazing, product not so much. This not your fault you picked the best product that met with your goals. For anyone reading this comment please watch the video before reading my spoiler. --- Spoiler --- I have two Minisforum UN1290's - I bought both from amazon. One of them worked out of box the other: The fan would never kick on and it would TT all the time. I put win 11 back on it and the fan would work. Not sure the cause - So I returned the one that failed to work with linux and got a replacement witch works so if you run into the issue with the fan just send it back and get another one. I have this issue with some U700 and U850 as well. All of of the AMD version minus the Wireless cards have been solid out of the box. I setup kiosk/wallboards for charter schools and SMB's - So many mini PC's - They do the job and commodity hardware. Better then the days of the M900's...
🇬🇧 👍🏽 November 2024 What an awesome fulfilment of the promise in the title - & I loved your basis & rationale for the exclusions you made (for example, I'd also never want to stumble into buying the latest Intel stuff).
I use a GMKtec NucBox K6 on Gentoo Linux, Ryzen 7 7840HS 8C/16T 5.1GHz, 64GB RAM DDR5 4800MHz, Radeon 780M 4GB(set in the UEFI) iGPU and a 2TB Western Digital SN770 PCIe NVMe SSD it works so well, I use it as my main PC. :D
Minis forum Venus Series UM790 AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS + AMD Radeon 780M + 64 GB DDR5 RAM + 1 TB SSD + 2x USB 4 ports with Thunderbolt support + 2x HDMI + 4x USB 3. Bought second-hand for 365 US dollars. Windows 11 buried and runs super well with Debian 12 Bookworm, also with Ubuntu 24 or Linux Mint 22
@@ElevatedSystems Internet connection with cell phone, USB tethering or mobile hotspot. I have very fast 5G and it is automatically recognized by Debian.
glad you actually did use three distros that are different i watched a vid forget the channel and he said three different distros and then the ones he used were all debian based
Got 6 of these mini pc's all of various types and all now have Linux on them, mostly mint but a few have different flavors.. all work really well. I plan to buy more to build a cluster.
Good point on WiFi and removing MediaTek platforms. IMHO WiFi compatibility is one of the top problems with Linux compatibility. So far I've had machines with the Intel ax series
I fell in love with mini PCs last year when i got my hands on a couple of industrial mITX boards, downloaded and 3D printed the case, treated myself with a new 25" display for my birthday and love the setup. I dont play games so it's perfect for my CAD and prototyping needs. Running LMDE and I dont need anything else. Glad to see mini PCs gaining popularity. I moved in that direction when Shuttle launched their range of barebones back in the days. Neat, tidy, quiet. That's all I need. By the way, you're running tests on Ubuntu. It's a bloated distro that I'd avoid. I've tried Ubuntu, MX KDE, LMDE Cinnamon and Manjaro KDE on the same hardware, Ubuntu was the worst performer and worst user experience. I'd try some custom kernels like Lycorix and Xanmod as well. Useful and informative review! Well done
Please, please, please - a particular thing missing from all mini pc reviews (not to mention 99.99% are with focus on gaming thanks not yours) is the thermal behavior and at least for me the most important - the noise levels! I'd appreciate a quiet working environment over top performance scores. Thank you if you consider including those elements for future reviews. I'm right now researching which mini pc to get for my main Linux desktop, looking at UM1265 or UM690S, GMKTec NucBox K6, Beelink EQR6 or EQi12, however have no idea how the behave from the perspective of noise and thermals.
Thank you so much, with Vmware being bought by Broadcom and Windows being Windows with Co-pilot and other privacy concerns including google. With pc part getting lesser to come by the day. Really considering a small linux box to run my flatpak apps.
A video like this is useful, but as a Beelink fan I'd really like to have a video showing which Beelink mini PC's work best with Linux, particularly the more modest Beelinks which are very popular with Linux users.
I am amazed of the performance of the EQ13 N100 running Debian with GNOME. I should have used it to run a small power efficient server due to the potato CPU, but I first tried using it as a desktop and it's crazy how fast this thing is (for a Linux desktop). It runs FreeCAD, Cura, PrusaSlicer, 4K RUclips videos, a gazillion Firefox tabs etc. very well on a 4K monitor. It's totally silent no matter the load. I had not expected this, but unless you are into heavy 3D games (or run Gentoo and need to compile all of your software on every update), the high end models mentioned here are way overpowered for a Linux desktop. I might get an EQR6 6600H (which will also be way overpowered) to replace this N100, but only because I need to use the N100 for said server.
I should note that I replaced the SSD with a Crucial T500 before installing Debian, because of durability concerns for my intended server use case. I don't believe it should have too much of an impact though.
running a variety here as well! bunch of gmktek, intel nucs, beelink, etc. I didn't trust the 'free' version of windows they came with so wiped everything and put proxmox on em. Only downside so far I've found is the n100 with single channel ram only officially supporting 16gb.
The Minisforum IM1290 seems like a good machine. I do want to install Linux. I feel comfortable switching out the WIFI card for an Intel, so I want to consider an AMD processor. What I'm looking at are the Minisforum UM690 Pro or UM790 Pro mini PCs. The UM690 Pro is the same processor as the Beelink and GMKtec; however, the UM790 Pro is the newer 9-7940HS. If I wanted the faster machine, could I use the UM790 Pro without a lot of hassle? Besides the speed, I like the port selection on the Minisforum. Thanks
I have a um790 pro minipc with linux mint 22 installed. It has very good support, has intel killer wifi card so ethernet and wifi works out of the box. Its a solid choice, well built 👌
Hello, I'm looking into linux for the first time and want to get into virtual machines as well. Would this pc or something higher be adequate for those applications? Thanks. Thank you for the great content.
Anything AMD. With the Minisforum's external GPU dock I might go with a mini PC with a oculink port. I've always wanted to make a eGPU dock but it always looked like such a hassle and the premade ones were always either WAY too big or expensive but for $100 I might give it a try.
Is the minisforum hx99g compatible with Linux mint? Or are there some "restrictions" when using linux on a mini PC? I want to buy the hx99g next month and it should run Linux mint.
What Mini PC would you recommend that could support Plex movie streaming up to 6 transcoded streams at one time. I'm looking at the AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS but want to be sure. Great video Thanks
System 76 Mini, slightly over priced intel nuc but from a US based company with a decent history and lifetime Linux support. And it doesn't come with Windows.
I recently bought and returned a Reatan Alloy 9 (7940hs chip - the plan was to use it as a Linux HTPC). I tried several distros (Fedora, Nobara, Arch, and Ubuntu), but none would provide a 5.1 surround digital audio profile from either Gnome or KDE sound settings (they were all stereo only - tried with the iGPU->HDMI, a 7800xt eGPU, and even an external USB 7.1 audio box with an optical SPDIF out. None would do anything but stereo digital output). If it won't provide a a decent home theater audio signal, it's a dealbreaker. I've now got an Aoostar gem12 on order - hopefully it will slot in better in my home theater. I'm curious if you've been able to get any of these new 7940hs or 8845hs based PCs to expose a 5.1 surround sound profile?
A few months ago I got my Minisforum MS-01 /w the 13900H. I haven't had any issues, but given what has come to light, I wish I had gotten the Gen 12 version. hopefully Steve/GN can put some real pressure on Intel to do something, but it's not looking good. They definitely don't want to recall millions of CPUs. Still, the unit works great (today), especially given I have both 10Gbit SFP+ ports connected to a Qotom mini PC I am using as a switch/router. One port for LAN traffic and one dedicated for WAN traffic works out great.
Having no experience with MiniPCs, I just want one with hardware strong enough to stream 4K to use as a HTPC to replace the tracking/advertising Roku box
An my beelink n100 mini pc i can't find option in bios to turn off always on usb port. So for example my usb dac led is still glowing even if the pc is shut down. Super annoying.
Hello from New York City! Is there a way to save the Windows install code and product ID for use on another PC before over writing it with Linux? Thank you for informative video.
And why not buy a refurbished hp elitedeskt tiny or thinkcentre m series ? They work good with bsds and illumos too. I prefer other distros like void (or vxlinux if you are lazy) or devuan which are more complete for developers and generally users. Please show more coding on linux videos.
Talking about research, you might have missed that the 7000 Ryzens also have an NPU. But the support or lack of it in applications in Windows is about the same as Linux. There are not even proper benchmarks for Windows yet.
Hello, I am trying to install Linux mint (ubunt) alongside Windowson my minisforum UM 780XTX but I receive a message that I have to disable bitlocker. The issue is I do not use bitlocker. From some forums, it says that I should disable all the fast boot and secure boot from the BIOS. I did it but I am still receiving the error message. Has someone installed linux on the elite machines? What should I do? thanks
Wi-Fi is fucking shitty for a lot of these, beware. Unless you want it to live near your router or take a dice roll to figure out a USB Wi-Fi adapter, you will have a bad time. I tried a few distros on the Beelink S12, and it's ok at best. It really only performs better on its pre-installed Windows 11 instance. I have Fedora Workstation with Gnome on it so far and it's ok. Mint would not install correctly either m.
Forgot to mention that wifi 'just fucking worked' with Windows 11. Very frustrating. I would opt to go build a mini ITX machine with better parts instead.
I'm gonna politely disagree that the Gnome 3 UI that comes with Ubuntu is going to be familiar and intuitive to Windows users. The shortcomings of Ubuntu going with Gnome 3 were directly responsible for the launching of the Mint project. Gnome 3 is a half-baked tablet UI that stumbles around drunkenly trying to be a desktop UI. In the grand scheme of things, that's a minor quibble. Pretty much all of the popular Linux distros are easier to set up and use than Windows; particularly networking. Administration in general, and networking in particular, are doable but a pile of stinky, weirdly idiosyncratic misery on Windows 11. tl;dr: Gnome 3 is a trainwreck of contempt for end users rendering the two major distros largely unusable for people who want to defect from Microsoft, Linux Mint (and several others) actually *are* familiar and intuitive for Windows defectors, and Linux has ended up being mostly easier to use than Windows. What a time to be alive.
I don’t think I mentioned Gnome specifically, I said the installer would be familiar to windows users. I usually demo Ubuntu for new users because it still accounts for about 1/3 of the Linux desktop marketshare.
If you are looking for something that is not windows, Mac Mini is pretty much unmatched in terms of power, speed and affordability. I've never been a huge Apple fan but that hardware is unmatched. Silent too. Complete game changer compared to any other mini pc.
Show us mini PCs between 100 and 250 € and it will be interesting, beyond these prices it is better to buy a real PC that is upgradeable... you have to be crazy to spend 800 € on a mini PC ;-(
Well, I have the best of any made in the past 3 years, so there’s that. And I only test and recommend what I actually have. I don’t just make a guess from bunch of Amazon listings.
You should do your self that big favor and try out CachyOS (arch) instead of Manjaro for a REAL arch installation. Also, CachyOS is one of the fastest distro out there.
I ended up getting a Beelink SER 6, with Windows 11 Pro. 1 TiB SSD; 32 GiB RAM; Ryzen 9 6900HX. Runs Fedora Linux 40 just fine.
Older AMD's APUs (CPU with entry level graphics built-in) are great for Linux, because AMD graphics drivers are open source and BAKED INTO Linux distros. So you don't even gotta grab drivers off the repositories. My laptop, an HP cheapie with AMD Ryzen 5 3500U, runs Mint 21.1 great.
Video is amazing, product not so much. This not your fault you picked the best product that met with your goals. For anyone reading this comment please watch the video before reading my spoiler.
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Spoiler ---
I have two Minisforum UN1290's - I bought both from amazon. One of them worked out of box the other:
The fan would never kick on and it would TT all the time. I put win 11 back on it and the fan would work.
Not sure the cause - So I returned the one that failed to work with linux and got a replacement witch works so if you run into the issue with the fan just send it back and get another one.
I have this issue with some U700 and U850 as well. All of of the AMD version minus the Wireless cards have been solid out of the box.
I setup kiosk/wallboards for charter schools and SMB's - So many mini PC's - They do the job and commodity hardware.
Better then the days of the M900's...
🇬🇧 👍🏽 November 2024
What an awesome fulfilment of the promise in the title - & I loved your basis & rationale for the exclusions you made (for example, I'd also never want to stumble into buying the latest Intel stuff).
I use a GMKtec NucBox K6 on Gentoo Linux, Ryzen 7 7840HS 8C/16T 5.1GHz, 64GB RAM DDR5 4800MHz, Radeon 780M 4GB(set in the UEFI) iGPU and a 2TB Western Digital SN770 PCIe NVMe SSD it works so well, I use it as my main PC. :D
Minis forum Venus Series UM790 AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS + AMD Radeon 780M + 64 GB DDR5 RAM + 1 TB SSD + 2x USB 4 ports with Thunderbolt support + 2x HDMI + 4x USB 3.
Bought second-hand for 365 US dollars. Windows 11 buried and runs super well with Debian 12 Bookworm, also with Ubuntu 24 or Linux Mint 22
Do you use the WiFi? If so what type of access point do you have?
@@ElevatedSystems Internet connection with cell phone, USB tethering or mobile hotspot. I have very fast 5G and it is automatically recognized by Debian.
@@ElevatedSystems you can't connect to a standard ISP router via wifi ?
Awesome video! Extremely well edited, such an underrated channel.
So sick of this anti intel meme being pushed by youtubers. Stay away from the i9's and the problem is solved. The 13700 is an amazing cpu.
glad you actually did use three distros that are different i watched a vid forget the channel and he said three different distros and then the ones he used were all debian based
Got 6 of these mini pc's all of various types and all now have Linux on them, mostly mint but a few have different flavors.. all work really well. I plan to buy more to build a cluster.
Good point on WiFi and removing MediaTek platforms. IMHO WiFi compatibility is one of the top problems with Linux compatibility. So far I've had machines with the Intel ax series
I fell in love with mini PCs last year when i got my hands on a couple of industrial mITX boards, downloaded and 3D printed the case, treated myself with a new 25" display for my birthday and love the setup. I dont play games so it's perfect for my CAD and prototyping needs. Running LMDE and I dont need anything else. Glad to see mini PCs gaining popularity. I moved in that direction when Shuttle launched their range of barebones back in the days. Neat, tidy, quiet. That's all I need.
By the way, you're running tests on Ubuntu. It's a bloated distro that I'd avoid. I've tried Ubuntu, MX KDE, LMDE Cinnamon and Manjaro KDE on the same hardware, Ubuntu was the worst performer and worst user experience. I'd try some custom kernels like Lycorix and Xanmod as well.
Useful and informative review! Well done
Please, please, please - a particular thing missing from all mini pc reviews (not to mention 99.99% are with focus on gaming thanks not yours) is the thermal behavior and at least for me the most important - the noise levels! I'd appreciate a quiet working environment over top performance scores. Thank you if you consider including those elements for future reviews. I'm right now researching which mini pc to get for my main Linux desktop, looking at UM1265 or UM690S, GMKTec NucBox K6, Beelink EQR6 or EQi12, however have no idea how the behave from the perspective of noise and thermals.
Gaming?you might say teen masterbation....that is the alwful truth for you.....
Total Linux noob here: GMKtec G3
Dead cheap
Ran everything I tried so far
2 SSD slots (short B key SATA and M key NVME)
2x 2.5 GbE
N100
Thank you so much, with Vmware being bought by Broadcom and Windows being Windows with Co-pilot and other privacy concerns including google. With pc part getting lesser to come by the day. Really considering a small linux box to run my flatpak apps.
A video like this is useful, but as a Beelink fan I'd really like to have a video showing which Beelink mini PC's work best with Linux, particularly the more modest Beelinks which are very popular with Linux users.
I am amazed of the performance of the EQ13 N100 running Debian with GNOME. I should have used it to run a small power efficient server due to the potato CPU, but I first tried using it as a desktop and it's crazy how fast this thing is (for a Linux desktop). It runs FreeCAD, Cura, PrusaSlicer, 4K RUclips videos, a gazillion Firefox tabs etc. very well on a 4K monitor. It's totally silent no matter the load. I had not expected this, but unless you are into heavy 3D games (or run Gentoo and need to compile all of your software on every update), the high end models mentioned here are way overpowered for a Linux desktop. I might get an EQR6 6600H (which will also be way overpowered) to replace this N100, but only because I need to use the N100 for said server.
I should note that I replaced the SSD with a Crucial T500 before installing Debian, because of durability concerns for my intended server use case. I don't believe it should have too much of an impact though.
You really did your homework, this video is very detail orientated and everything said rings true!
running a variety here as well! bunch of gmktek, intel nucs, beelink, etc. I didn't trust the 'free' version of windows they came with so wiped everything and put proxmox on em. Only downside so far I've found is the n100 with single channel ram only officially supporting 16gb.
Great Linux content! 🎉
Thank you for this, I was searching for one.
The Minisforum IM1290 seems like a good machine. I do want to install Linux. I feel comfortable switching out the WIFI card for an Intel, so I want to consider an AMD processor. What I'm looking at are the Minisforum UM690 Pro or UM790 Pro mini PCs. The UM690 Pro is the same processor as the Beelink and GMKtec; however, the UM790 Pro is the newer 9-7940HS. If I wanted the faster machine, could I use the UM790 Pro without a lot of hassle? Besides the speed, I like the port selection on the Minisforum. Thanks
I have a um790 pro minipc with linux mint 22 installed. It has very good support, has intel killer wifi card so ethernet and wifi works out of the box. Its a solid choice, well built 👌
Gracias por el video, tiene mucho valor y relevancia 👍
Hello, I'm looking into linux for the first time and want to get into virtual machines as well. Would this pc or something higher be adequate for those applications? Thanks.
Thank you for the great content.
Anything AMD. With the Minisforum's external GPU dock I might go with a mini PC with a oculink port. I've always wanted to make a eGPU dock but it always looked like such a hassle and the premade ones were always either WAY too big or expensive but for $100 I might give it a try.
Is the minisforum hx99g compatible with Linux mint? Or are there some "restrictions" when using linux on a mini PC? I want to buy the hx99g next month and it should run Linux mint.
What Mini PC would you recommend that could support Plex movie streaming up to 6 transcoded streams at one time. I'm looking at the AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS but want to be sure. Great video Thanks
System 76 Mini, slightly over priced intel nuc but from a US based company with a decent history and lifetime Linux support. And it doesn't come with Windows.
The current version of the Meerkat comes with a Raptor Lake CPU so I’ve avoided it, but I may check out the next generation.
Hi thank you for this, so much out there. I use Ubuntu studio 24.04 so this should fly. Do you know If you can add any more NVM 02 HDs ?. Cheers
I recently bought and returned a Reatan Alloy 9 (7940hs chip - the plan was to use it as a Linux HTPC). I tried several distros (Fedora, Nobara, Arch, and Ubuntu), but none would provide a 5.1 surround digital audio profile from either Gnome or KDE sound settings (they were all stereo only - tried with the iGPU->HDMI, a 7800xt eGPU, and even an external USB 7.1 audio box with an optical SPDIF out. None would do anything but stereo digital output). If it won't provide a a decent home theater audio signal, it's a dealbreaker. I've now got an Aoostar gem12 on order - hopefully it will slot in better in my home theater. I'm curious if you've been able to get any of these new 7940hs or 8845hs based PCs to expose a 5.1 surround sound profile?
A few months ago I got my Minisforum MS-01 /w the 13900H. I haven't had any issues, but given what has come to light, I wish I had gotten the Gen 12 version. hopefully Steve/GN can put some real pressure on Intel to do something, but it's not looking good. They definitely don't want to recall millions of CPUs. Still, the unit works great (today), especially given I have both 10Gbit SFP+ ports connected to a Qotom mini PC I am using as a switch/router. One port for LAN traffic and one dedicated for WAN traffic works out great.
Having no experience with MiniPCs, I just want one with hardware strong enough to stream 4K to use as a HTPC to replace the tracking/advertising Roku box
Also, please try to test Libre OS like Trisquel, if this works then such Mini PC will work most of the distros.
An my beelink n100 mini pc i can't find option in bios to turn off always on usb port. So for example my usb dac led is still glowing even if the pc is shut down. Super annoying.
please, create a PLAYLIST abut Linux hw
Great idea! Will do.
4:13 Thanks for the tip on avoiding all current AMD Ryzen based mini PCs due to their use of Mediatek wifi adapter
Hello from New York City! Is there a way to save the Windows install code and product ID for use on another PC before over writing it with Linux? Thank you for informative video.
Have you played with Bazzite distro and gaming on one of these mini PCs?
Ive got the later one ...the NAB9. also I noticed you were running the same monitor as me.
And why not buy a refurbished hp elitedeskt tiny or thinkcentre m series ? They work good with bsds and illumos too. I prefer other distros like void (or vxlinux if you are lazy) or devuan which are more complete for developers and generally users. Please show more coding on linux videos.
Talking about research, you might have missed that the 7000 Ryzens also have an NPU. But the support or lack of it in applications in Windows is about the same as Linux. There are not even proper benchmarks for Windows yet.
3:41 isn't fedora update the kernel and mesa library every two weeks or so? sound like a non issue if you have anything fedora or arch based.
Might consider Mint for future tests/videos that have newbies in mind. Good video, tho!
There are a lot of good distros for beginners, but Ubuntu still accounts for over one third of all Linux desktops.
I'm surprised Intel NUC 13 Pro was not included. A person can easily install Linux Mint on it.
I mentioned why no 13th or 14th gen Intel platforms were considered.
Hello, I am trying to install Linux mint (ubunt) alongside Windowson my minisforum UM 780XTX but I receive a message that I have to disable bitlocker. The issue is I do not use bitlocker. From some forums, it says that I should disable all the fast boot and secure boot from the BIOS. I did it but I am still receiving the error message. Has someone installed linux on the elite machines? What should I do? thanks
Linux Mini PC == A better Mac Mini
I remember the time when AMD was still wearing a nappy (diaper for our transatlantic friends).
sadly no info about the power efficiency.
Wi-Fi is fucking shitty for a lot of these, beware. Unless you want it to live near your router or take a dice roll to figure out a USB Wi-Fi adapter, you will have a bad time.
I tried a few distros on the Beelink S12, and it's ok at best. It really only performs better on its pre-installed Windows 11 instance.
I have Fedora Workstation with Gnome on it so far and it's ok. Mint would not install correctly either m.
Forgot to mention that wifi 'just fucking worked' with Windows 11. Very frustrating.
I would opt to go build a mini ITX machine with better parts instead.
is it AMD? with a mediatek wifi card?
I'm gonna politely disagree that the Gnome 3 UI that comes with Ubuntu is going to be familiar and intuitive to Windows users. The shortcomings of Ubuntu going with Gnome 3 were directly responsible for the launching of the Mint project. Gnome 3 is a half-baked tablet UI that stumbles around drunkenly trying to be a desktop UI.
In the grand scheme of things, that's a minor quibble. Pretty much all of the popular Linux distros are easier to set up and use than Windows; particularly networking. Administration in general, and networking in particular, are doable but a pile of stinky, weirdly idiosyncratic misery on Windows 11.
tl;dr: Gnome 3 is a trainwreck of contempt for end users rendering the two major distros largely unusable for people who want to defect from Microsoft, Linux Mint (and several others) actually *are* familiar and intuitive for Windows defectors, and Linux has ended up being mostly easier to use than Windows. What a time to be alive.
I don’t think I mentioned Gnome specifically, I said the installer would be familiar to windows users. I usually demo Ubuntu for new users because it still accounts for about 1/3 of the Linux desktop marketshare.
@@ElevatedSystemsconsidering the horrible experience GNOME has become I would rethink that.
If you are looking for something that is not windows, Mac Mini is pretty much unmatched in terms of power, speed and affordability. I've never been a huge Apple fan but that hardware is unmatched. Silent too. Complete game changer compared to any other mini pc.
I’ve done full series on the M1 and M2 Pro Mac Mini.
i wonder how the new snapdragon will compare if it comes to a mini pc.
Mac Mini's are still on the m2 CPU, lol.
You can get better hardware for cheaper...
@@jonathannoneofyourbusiness4123 M1 mac mini is cheap if you are willing to buy used
Show us mini PCs between 100 and 250 € and it will be interesting, beyond these prices it is better to buy a real PC that is upgradeable... you have to be crazy to spend 800 € on a mini PC ;-(
Some people want to have home servers that live independently without getting a Pi.
All these mini PC companies either need to stop with the headphone jack in front and place it in back where it belongs, or add a 2nd to the back.
I use a Kingnovy (rebadged Gen Machine) mini PC, it has the headphone jack on the back, its glorious!
ok so not the best pc....just the best one you have.......CLICKBAIT
Well, I have the best of any made in the past 3 years, so there’s that. And I only test and recommend what I actually have. I don’t just make a guess from bunch of Amazon listings.
You should do your self that big favor and try out CachyOS (arch) instead of Manjaro for a REAL arch installation.
Also, CachyOS is one of the fastest distro out there.
you nerds and your obscure distros nobody ever heard about.. get real