The Most Chilling Story You've NEVER Heard Of: Khayman Welch
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- In this unsolved mystery documentary, we're covering the chilling true story behind the disappearance of Khayman Welch. Khayman "Khay" Welch completely vanished without a trace on August 12, 2020 at Weaver's Needle Vista Viewpoint, disappearing into the notorious Superstition Mountains. The Superstition Mountains are not only well-known for the dark legends and mysteries that surround them, but also for the strange disappearances that occur in the area. To this day, Khayman has never been found, and his bizarre disappearance remains a mystery. Will Khayman's missing persons case ever be solved? Join us for a storytime covering the case of Khayman Welch.
I'm his brother. I've been trying to keep our mom positive 🙏 much love to everyone that's showing empathy & concern
He obviously killed himself
@@Manganese25 Do you really hate yourself that much you replied this?
@@Manganese25 don't be so negative. If he killed himself they would of found him already. Let's keep him and his family in our prayers.
@@Manganese25If he wanted to kill himself, why go through the extra trouble of dragging his uncle out into the desert?
His disappearance was also way to quick for a premeditated suicide, his uncle would have heard the shot from a firearm.
The scenario that would fit the best with suicide would be he wandered off into the desert, found an outcrop where his body would be hidden from view and his scent would be mostly untraceable, and killed himself using some method that preserved his scent long enough that searchers might miss the vultures that would inevitably find him. This is highly highly unlikely, even with Kai researching the area beforehand.
A more gruesome thought, and the one I find most likely, was that Kai was kidnapped or a third party was involved with his disappearance.
Hopefully it’s the later, as that means there’s a chance he’s still alive. Either way, keep your spirits high until you get closure on the case
@@anthonygudgeon4298riiiight?? 🤔
My dad, who is disabled, went missing a few days ago during a solitary walk. The police found him mildly injured lying in a ditch four hours after he went missing. It was the longest four hours of my life. I can't even imagine having a loved one missing for five months. I am so sorry for this family.
@Phil Smiley Nguyen LOL! Glad you found your son and it all worked out, but funny to lose your son in a "sea of Asians," hahaha. TBH, if me and my kid was Asian, that shit would confuse me too!
@@cristinesomerville4522 shut the fuck up you weirdo
And to AM Christie - glad you found your dad! That sounds horrifying
@@cristinesomerville4522 God will get up with you⌛📖✝️
Thats how my exs dad was found frozwn ina snow bank ,in a ditch .😢
Khay is still missing after 19 months... Officially the longest missing persons case in the area.
As an Apache from the area, I can tell you there are a lottttt of stories about those mountains.
Grandma says you don’t tell non Apaches our business or stories but she came from a different time, I think it’s good medicine to share experience.
She said the mountain spirits live up there, the Gaan.
Story goes there’s some powerful energies there, something old in the rock and needs to be protected.
They say a secret band of Apache guarded the area from outsiders, accounts deem this to be true.
It was speculated we were protecting the precious metals under the mountain but my Grandmother said this wasn’t true, she said we were guarding the area because they had a pact with something under the mountain.
Something that didn’t want to be dug up.
Now, getting away from the superstition about the mountains lol the reason why so many people die up there nowadays is chiefly due to the fact the temperatures would sore up in the mountains.
Out of nowhere it would shoot up, a bit of the frog in the boiling water scenario.
That coupled with a deadly mistake of taking only enough water to get up there but not enough water to get back down.
You MUST bring double your water, if it takes 3 gallons to get up there then you will need 3 gallons to make it back down alive.
I’m confused. What exactly does the mountain shoot up?
@@captainhd9741 Ohhhh I see what you’re saying, I said clearly that the temperatures would sore, temperatures would shoot up and cook you
@@captainhd9741 The temperature shoots up. 🌡️
Thank you for sharing your grandma's beliefs. There are a lot of weird places like that mountain with native legends just as you described. Skin Walker Ranch immediately came to mind. I think they're evil spirits. It sounds like the Apaches understood this about the mountain, and tried to protect people from spirits best left alone.
Thankyou, good information, half Cherokee but I've always felt to stay away as if there's a clear barrier.
There are now 2 more missing in this area. And little to no media coverage on ANY of them. Thank you all for the love and support. Please help us keep getting his info out there. ❤️
You're his mom right? I wish you luck and light.
Sending prayers from Yuma.
I really hope you find your son there’s something fishy about that one area keeps taking down his missing poster.
It is always the worst if you dont even know what happened. I hope someday he will be found.
A geologist (Daniel Robinson) has been missing from AZ since 2021. It’s so sad
Wow I hope they all get found
I'm a friend of Khay... and I'm still in disbelief that he's missing. I met him through another friend of mine to get tattoos and he was our artist. Not only a great artist but an amazing personality. He was very outgoing and very much ecstatic about his work and what he does. Khay if you ever come back just know we all miss you and love you for who you are.
- Emilio Morales
He is ded hehe
@@pornsceneindex can’t get attention from people in real life? :(
How weird that all those fires struck in that are @ the same time frame
Definitely some weird energy going on in The SuperStitions
@@pornsceneindex Go get some help. You sound like you are sick in the mind.
I hope wherever he is, he knows how much he means to you, and how much you mean to him.
If you have ever been to the Superstition Mountains, you know that feeling.
It really does feel like someone is watching you.
Ive seen a few interviews where seasoned hikers and climbers say they would never go alone.
😳oh dear . I wonder what’s out there then
The Pima Indians have told farmers' stories of strange sounds emanating from the mountain. 😲
Ehhh never really was afraid to hike. When they had emptied canyon lake that’s when I felt like I had people watching.
Saddlebag mountain too. Flat iron mountain is another one. They are both in or around Tonopah Az. Thank you.
His mom is so articulate, and so strong. May she be comforted.
Florist's are real lol. They are a company that for amazing prices, can tell you about lead paint and it's history.
Idle Hour bro what?
@@ak6ill yeah what. Who said anything about a florist??
Idle Hour are you good? Genuine question
@@ak6ill actually. I have 3 stomach tumors. 2 are cancerous. I was put on a cocktail of meds for pain and other things like stomach acidity levels yada yada. The pain meds are THC pills called dronabinol and medical marijuana. I haven't used any THC anything in over a year so it really makes me loopy. Stuck in bed for days on end is a nightmare. I thibk i type this nonsense out of anxiety and everything else i mentioned. Idk why i typed what i typed. I respect that you asked like a decent person. Shows a lot about your character and its good. Be well and stay safe my bud.
Its 2024, over three years since he went missing, and still no news. I hope the family receives some sort of conclusion to this.
I think it's important to remember that family and friends of the missing people mentioned in every video, not just this one, watch these types of videos as well. Let's all be kind.
I agree 🧡
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excuses #.toxic
@Johan Liebert Sorry, but that doesn't really matter. He just should be found, whatever happened to him.
I don't need your advice, patronising much?!
I grew up with Khayman. We were in a "band" together in highschool and I invited him to many of my sleep overs in middle school. The last time we hung out would have been around 2018 right after my ex and I broke up, we all decided we needed to have a night together with other close friends. We met at a friend's house and basically stayed up all night drinking, smoking and playing guitar. I know for me personally that memory helped me out of my funk at the time. He was the one that got us all together a genuine good fucking guy and a great friend.
I'm so sorry that you're going through this. Regardless if you were a close friend or an acquaintance, it absolutely sucks when someone you know disappears. You're in my thoughts.
Does he have a sign that he is sick? I mean his depression. Just curious. Depression when not treated can loose someone self and cant remember who is. A brain is as sensitive as our heart. I hope someone recognize him and bring him home. This so heartbreaking.
@@abigaelrubion3014 😢
I’m so sorry for your loss.
Sry for your loss. I pray 🙏 one day yall get answers. God bless and Godspeed.
This narrator has a great voice. He's up there with Morgan Freeman and Tom Baker.
I agree,love listening 👍💜👍
And Bill Kurtis
@@jerryg3786 ...Robert Stack 👍
And Peter Thomas
@Andy White yes lol
Ive lived in Arizona all of my life. These people get dehydrated and lost, everytime. People underestimate the heat, they underestimate the terrain, and how similar it all looks once you’re lost. I’ve experienced it directly. When you’re higher in the mountains all of the washes and trails are tight. But once you pick one, it will twist, wind and drop you into a canyon that can spit you out on the opposite side of the mountain, sometimes 20 miles away by the time you get to the rolling hills. If you don’t have a solid gps unit, and plenty of water, don’t go in to any of the sky islands.
So have I. Happens every year on camel back mountain
He did not go hiking.
@@hazelhadley-britt6396 then where did he go? U know?
alyssa arroyo did you watch the video? He walked further down to see the sunset. Not a hike.
@@hazelhadley-britt6396 oohhhh...and no I didn't watch all the way thru . TY FOR INFO
When someone goes missing it's kinda worse than a death because you know what happened and when someone goes missing you don't have closure!! My heart goes out to his family. ❤✌
The missing poster thing is kind of weird. My family visits Missouri almost every year (not lately due to COVID), and we still see some posters for the Springfield 3 who disappeared in 1992.
Yep missing people here in St. Louis area been missing years
Indeed. that may break the case open. I wonder if the posters are still disappearing ?
@@kodyjbosch1 we found that it was volunteers cleaning up at the vista taking them down. They have been told to leave them up by MCSO and so far they've been staying up now.
@@mrs.castillo330 I'm glad to hear that you figured out that piece. I'm so sorry Khay hasn't been found yet. You would be amazed at the collective brainpower of the internet. Many of these disappearances are solved on these channels and Reddit. There is a lot of stupidity and ignorance and cruelty hiding behind the cowardice of anonymity of the internet as well. But a lot of well meaning as well. this sort of thing could happen to anyone and it isn't right. It sounds like the most extensive and dedicated search that I've heard of to date. Khay is very lucky to be that loved and cherished. All missing people deserve to be found. Khay seems like he was a particularly special human being with a lot of potential and a lot to give to the world. Depression is hard, but it can be managed and sometimes completely surmounted. My prayers are that he will come home unharmed after some soul searching or a fugue state or the like. My prayers are with y'all even from up here in Washington State :)
@@mrs.castillo330 forgive me for saying so, but seems kind of rude and tone deaf to take down a missing person sign. Shame on them , I hope that that won't happen from here on out.
I really hope they find him, his family deserves answers or at least some closure.
My heart goes out to them.
as someone who came real close to committing suicide, one thing you think about is not wanting anyone to go through the torture of finding a dead body. people always say that, I would know if they needed help, or he would have told me. but the guilt you feel knowing how much pain you will cause people becomes too strong. and when you lose all hope of ever becoming better, then you feel it is pointless telling someone anyway.
I hope the family finds him for some closure but I also hope they can understand that if he did take his own life then he is no longer suffering.
I hate that i am exactly there
@@krotchlickmeugh627 it may be an absolute shit part, but it is part of your journey none the less. One day you will be able to write a comment as I did.
@@bobman929 i hope
Been there too. It passes, it always does - H. O. P. E 'Hold On Pain Ends'. . Pls reach out for help, there is treatment that will help, its just about finding what works.. ❤️
As a person who thinks about suicide all the time, I know that I couldn't do it in a way that wouldn't leave a body to be found. Never knowing what happened would be much worse than knowing.
The isolation connected to the pandemic has transported me to some deep, dark places within myself on more than one occasion. I'm not speculating that it's had any bearing on Khay's fate, but it's just another huge wrench thrown into the machine, in this already complicated scenario.
The imposed isolation has affected countless people in really harmful ways. So many are struggling with depression right now, young, middle aged and older. It's hard for all of us. If someone was having mental health issues even prior to the pandemic, isolation, work issues and the fear of catching COVID have made things even worse. My heart goes out to Khay's mother, uncle and all his family and loved ones. God bless you and give you to peace. Mindy, thank you for being such a strong and faithful advocate for Khay and not giving up hope. This world really needs many more angels like you! I pray for a positive outcome to Khay's disappearance...you never know! God is watching over Khay and all of you! God bless you all.
Char from Phoenix, AZ
I've been in isolation 12 years and still fine. I have no friends and family, no support I don't like being alone but that's how it is for me. People who were quarantined for a few months and complain and out it are very privileged and should be grateful for what they have
@@alisarsour8552
Dang son. You got a dog or something at least? What about Jesus?
@@alisarsour8552 can I ask why 12 years of isolation?
Louis Becker, What is your diagnose? May i ask. Just curious. I mean no harm..
I'm heartbroken for his Mom having to deal with people's stupity. I cant imagine the agony and worry and the wondering. My heart goes out to her and all his loved ones.
I KNOW ESPECIALLY WHEN PEOPLE ARE SAYING ITS A MUG SHOT, THATS TERRIBLE. I hope she finds out what happened to him. X
Agreed : I left her a message, a nice one , on the FB page .....
And the uncle. A lot of people are being very unkind because he was the last person to see him.
A lot of HEARTless people in the world nowadays 💔
bound so so true💔
TO THE UNCLE: I COULDN'T IMAGINE HOW HARD THINGS ARE FOR YOU, IM SO SORRY, MY FAMILY IS PRAYING FOR YOU. PLEASE KNOW THIS HAPPENS SO MUCH ANYMORE, MYSELF AND MANY OTHERS RESEARCH THE CAUSES AND ARE BAFFLED. PLEASE STAY STRONG
Thank you for seeing the bigger picture and not pointing fingers. Both sides of the family are completely broken and Brian loves Khay as his own. I wish more people could see this aspect rather than find someone to blame. 💗 I really appreciate this comment and we will continue to stay hopeful. It's hard but miracles are a thing.
@@trainer_rhiannon I am so sorry. Can't imagine what y'all are going through. So sorry people have the audacity to speak before thinking about how families are going to feel. You're in my heart and prayers.
I have been praying they will find the young man also and give a little closer to the family
@@trainer_rhiannon my heart goes out to you ... I have lost a daughter but I know where she is .(.. Her body ) but I cannot imagine not knowing where my baby is .. and he is your baby .
@@trainer_rhiannon may God hold you all closely.
This kid and his family seem like the sweetest, most patient, caring people. I hope they get the answers they deserve. This is absolutely heartbreaking 😢
The area is definitely very unsettling at night. But 1 - it's the desert, and 2 - there are so many stories and folklore that if you know that going in it of course will be on your mind. I went backpacking there a few years ago.. we hiked in several miles around midnight. I was the slowest and in the back and it was beyond scary for me. I truly felt like someone was behind me the whole time. When we camped I had the worst nightmares of animals outside our tent just watching us. It felt like the mountains could see us. But again.. there is a lot going on psychologically that causes this. Yes there are people living out there and it can be very dangerous. But I think a lot of that fear is from the stories we have heard over the years. In this case I am a little confused about the uncle and wish we could have heard more from him and his side of things. Not pointing any blame just feels like since he was there and the last to see Khay it would be a very valuable piece of information.
I was born and raised in AZ, when camping near Tucson as a child I had never heard any scary stories like that but had vivid nightmares of animals outside our tent too... So weird
How weird that all those fires struck in that are @ the same time frame
Definitely some weird energy going on in The SuperStitions
I agree with literally everything you said!
I’m glad that EWU picked up this case and is giving it the exposure it desperately needs. I hope he is found soon.
Been almost 2 years since this video was made…
He died the day he went missing lady.
youre delusional if you think hes still alive lol
He killed himself no need to find him
@@bigmike1850don't you not think a family finding their loved one's body and laying in to rest is important? It's hard enough to lose a loved one, but it's hell to not even have any part of them back home. His family deserves to be able to grieve, heal, and move on as best they can. Nobody is realistically saying he is still alive, but his body does need to be found so his family has the answers they desperately need.
he fell into a mini mine shaft like i almost did, luckily i had along walking stick or i was gone forever. there anywhere from 50 to 100 ft deep on average they are everywhere out there
That's a real possibility. Here, we have wells that are uncovered and in certain areas o my state, we have like sand traps, that will just make the largest person disappear.
NOPE! Sorry, they know to check those buddy.
@@FearEeatsTheSoul they are unmarked on private property everywhere out in the desert. i went to go buy some property near there and almost fell in one. nobody would of found me.
Couldn't he have screamed or something??
@@debbiewilson9712 After hypothetically falling 50+ feet into an abandoned desert mineshaft with grave injuries probably, with limited or no water (dry throat and cottonmouth, low energy too most likely), where there's a slim chance someone will find this shaft you would probably not be able to perform an affective scream that would lead to your salvation imo
Damn trolls pop up everywhere. They even harassed the family of a missing dead man.!? Such heartless people. I hope karma gets even with them...
That last text message he sent his mom, heartbreaking. 😢
What about that bit of info of the missing poster being removed from only one trail head continuously? I think putting a trail cam or some sort of cam is an excellent idea. Does anyone know if that has been looked into further than what the video talked about?
Probably an animal that uses that trail and just rips it's down from curiosity?
I used to live near the Superstition Mountains hiked there and know if you go off trail it’s a new world. Easy to get lost
Who would ever want to go here? Looks like a nightmare🙄
I used to live in Apache Junction,AZ . Weavers needle is a huge mountain that people claim that’s where the lost Dutchman actually hid his gold. The SuperStition Mountains Have Taken A lot Of lives..I remember a guy had crashed his plane up there and you could see the wreckage from my backyard.
Edit: I think Those fires had caused the mining camp restaurant to burn down aswell. Pretty Cool Restaurant. Served Everything in tin cups/plates. Also Had Newspapers On The Wall Talking About All The Gold Miners and Native encounters.
I use to as well
@@qtube1208 now imma Cali boy ahaha 🌲💨
And now I'm a Pacific Northwest boy
At least y'all left I'm still stuck here 🤦🏼♀️
I used to live in AJ also! Driving toward the mountain on Apache Trail you can see the plane wreck from the.. I want to say it was newlyweds that crashed there?
Out of curiosity, the last person to see him alive wasn't grilled as harshly as the majority of other suspects in this type of situation are interrogated, why?
was thinking the same thing, the whole search party and everything was based solely on the uncle's testimony
@@Chrismith Yes....
Got here early soon as I saw the notification. Loving that you are speaking on the less known missing cases . Thank you EWU 💕💕
Reading through the comments I'm seeing people who knew him. I am so sorry for your loss. 💜
I don't understand how people could be so cruel to a family searching for a loved one...
People are Asshole’s unfortunately
Bunch of 10 year olds with no father figure. And if they’re adults then they’re just reflecting how they feel about themselves. This worlds a dirty place.
They are wasting time and effort of healthy people to search for someone clearly gone.
Take emotions out of it and replace that with the possibility of losing another person. 😮
Humans are cruel
@@Mattdub22you're a sociopath tell that to his mother's face you nasty person
I cannot even imagine losing a child. I only have one- a 21 yr old son. I send you my tightest bear hugs and all of my heart @Trainer Rhiannon ♥️ I am not a religious person but I am deeply spiritual... I am praying for your boy. I would be beside myself. I send you deep, unending strength.
Many people who go missing in the wilderness are often just miles from their home or civilization. It’s understated just how easy it is to get lost in places like these. Even if it seems obvious that they could find their way back, in the moment people can become panicked and get more lost. Not to mention the sweltering heat. Really sad story, I hope the family can somehow find some closure
PLEASE PEOPLE REMEMBER TO VE RESPECTFUL AND THAT THE MOM AND FAMILY READ THIS. LETS ALL PRAY FOR THE FAMILY AND FOR KHAY TO COME GONE
Yes we do read these comments and they are extremely disgusting. Thank you for speaking out on our behalf. This has been a 6 month long nightmare with no end in sight.
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Can you investigate Wesley Billingsley? He went missing near where I live and lament for his mother & for him. She's been searching for answers for years and still nothing. Thanks!
Is there any evidence that he was ever actually there and that the uncle is telling the truth? Considering the longest anyone has been lost is 7 months and its now been years without so much as a shoe or any belongings seems weird. At least some evidence should have been found by now. But the entire search effort was based on the information given by the uncle.
I really hope they get the answers they so deserve, and it breaks my heart for this man and his family...💔
I used to live in Apache Junction. This is so sad! I hope they find him. And yes, there is Alot of rumors about alien abductions out there. But truthfully I hope he comes back to his worried family. My prayers are with them..
Thank you 💗
You’re not finding him in that area because I dont think he ever wanted to see the sunset or anything like that. The last person with him, uncle or whoever that man is, could just come there and call the police from there to throw you off. There is no way someone goes missing like this unless it’s an abduction case so I’d go back to the start and look for him with the last person that he was with
I'm so sorry the family is going through this, my thoughts and prayers are with them and I pray his poor dear mother gets answers soon. As a mother myself, this breaks my heart for her and his loved ones.
Another mysterious death associated with the Lost Dutchman's Mine came very recently when the Official Archaelogist of the State of Arizona mysteriously and suddenly died. He had (it's still there) a RUclips channel called the Legend of the Superstition Mountains that documented he and his partner's quest to find the missing gold. But he wasn't some huckster promising it for sure even existed, he just knew the intimate history of the story and enjoyed documenting all knowledge surrounding the topic, as well as dispelling the myths. And you know what? I remember in one episode him showing and talking about the Needle. I recall him saying that there was some feature about it that created an optical illusion that made it deadly, and that it had claimed many lives before.
Let's go find it bro
@@kdworak4754
I'm in- city slickers 3
@@SJTJ Yeah, but the other half of that channel was another guy, but he died recently. The guy who was the official state archaeologist of Arizona is the one who died. He was in all of the early episodes.
Yea but that mine hasn't been found they aren't even sure where it exactly is
Hold on...Khay went missing on his uncles watch. The uncle waited for dark until realizing something wasn’t right. His uncle then refused to respond to interview questions? Hmmm...has he been cleared? He sounds suspishy.
yeah that’s very weird & i was thinking about that. if they worked together there could’ve been a dispute between them that no one new about that ended fatal. i really hope his uncle was looked into thoroughly,
Agree.
This is Khays mom and yes he has been cleared. Thank you to those who aren't assuming.
@@trainer_rhiannon A lot of people here are thinking the same not with bad intentions but because of how the uncle part is quickly dismissed in the video and because a lot of options have been spent in that research.... I am thinking about two possible things here :
- For an unknown reason he never made it to this exact spot to start (does this spot have cameras ?)
- Maybe the crevasse / shaft accident is still on the table... I wonder if a turned off phone still pings the cell towers with the remaining battery.
I wish you the best and hope Khay is safe and sound. I will share this video.
@@trainer_rhiannonI hope you get the answers you deserve. You came across as someone who loves and misses her son desperately. 💔💔 Thank you for letting us know about his uncle.
My prayers are with this family. I can't imagine losing a family member and not knowing what happened. Thinking of your family! ❤
Guys, I live in Colorado and we were out in the Utah desert and got super lost. It was scary how fast it happened and then how far away we had gotten from our mapped spot. We had GPS via Garmin and an app on our phone. The phones started to die and we had to call and get help. Took 4 hours for them to find us.
This can happen and it’s scary how fast it can happen.
So his uncle gets him as a working partner for a random day and they go to a park in the desert?
They have to be investigating this uncle. Last person to see him alive. Prime suspect in my book.
Thats what I’m saying like hello
I was a professional tattoo artist for nearly 15 years, but had to get away because of substance abuse issues about 6 years ago. It was the only way to get clean. I’m not saying that Khay has a similar issue, but severe depression tends to affect many artists. It’s actually unbelievable how many artists lose hope. I hope the guy is brought home safely.
Props for your recovery ❤️🩹
Kudos to your recovery, man. I’m almost 2 years sober & clean! Tattooing is such a great outlet for mental & emotional stress. I can only imagine how low Khai must have been feeling to go on hiatus. In some cases, I can understand that it’s necessary to take a step back from your passion & take a deep breath. But in other ways I can also see how it could seem like a good idea & end up bringing you down even further. Anxiety is so wishy-washy & can make you do things you don’t actually want to do because you just feel so incredibly lost/un-motivated in the moment; you end up thinking ffs, maybe if I do something completely different I’ll feel that enthusiasm I once had again.
Weird tangent lol but I feel oddly connected to this case in particular.. My ex-boyfriend/best friend passed away a year ago today & Khai’s personality & passions remind me a lot of him. Maybe I’m just feeling extra emotional today. But my heart goes out to all that knew Khai & especially his mom. She is so incredibly strong & I hope she finds solace soon.
@@Trash.Katt. and you, as well! Thank you for the kind words. Any time I hear that someone else was able to overcome, it gives me hope that we can beat this addiction epidemic before it wipes us out. Stay true to yourself, and never look back.
Severe depression tends to affect many people**
Yeah, totally agree with you,good on you mate, take it easy.
Why am I just now finding out this info. I spend alot of time at weavers needle, tortilla flats and that area... I go almost every other weekend
I wonder if there was any other witness, besides his uncle, that can provide proof that they were in Tortilla Flats doing the AC work and left together. Also at what time did they actually leave?
its interesting that you don't know about it and you're in that area often. You would think itd be on the local news, or put up on billboards, or posters by law enforcement.
There have been pictures posted at the Vista and at trail heads, when removed they were replaced by hikers that are helping.
And he was confirmed working at Tortilla Flats with his uncle who loves him as his own.
Also there were other people at the Vista that confirmed they were there. They also stayed behind while 911 calls were made.
@@trainer_rhiannon thank you for the info. Its relieving hearing that from you. I cant believe people would actually take those signs down. Im sure his uncle is having a rough time with all this as well but please do understand that we mean no harm and are just trying to find out info so we can help, as someone outside your circle I try to follow the facts to provide my opinions and since the uncle was the last person there we are left to think that he is the number one suspect. But thank you for letting us know a bit more about him, it definitely helps.
I had a cousin who was in the Air Force, and stationed in Arizona. He remarked many times there were people who went exploring in the Superstition Mountains .... and never returned.
A friend of mine recently had there wedding ceremony on the land. Grandfathered in from people of the reservation. The ceremony started right at sunset with only about 20 people in attendance. Absolutely beautiful.
I have a view of the Superstions. I have hiked there many times. Never have I felt weird there. I have talked to some native Americans about Superstition Mountains, and they won’t even go near that mountain. I’ve also after the fact of hiking there so many times that it has demons there or it is haunted. Don’t know. It is beautiful. But then doesn’t evil pretend to look beautiful? Just some things I have heard from locals. I’m so sorry for your son. It’s heartbreaking. Last summer was so brutally hot. The hottest on record. I was alone all summer while my husband worked in Missouri. I went through a very bad depression also. I understand his pain. All this social distancing has really played on us
Temps in the summer can reach over 120. Summers here are hell. People will go hiking during the day summertime; it’s called inferno hiking. People die every year because they’ve underestimated the heat.
He wasn't planning a hike, he was planning to walk a few minutes to watch the sunset.
@@trainer_rhiannon people have died of heat here by walking down the sidewalk during the summer. It happens.
Hi I am khay's cousin Lilly Lewallen thank you for spreading the message, spreading the message like this helps a lot thank you.
Hi
Happy birthday Khay
Idk if this has been solved yet, I'm close with my cousins and I can't imagine how I'd feel if something happened to any of them whether it be foul play or not.
Khay was a good kid man. Kind .totally abnormal to other people . He would talk to me about art all the time . He was so dedicated to it
It’s so sad that he didn’t have much access to medical help for his depression and anxiety.
He has always been the guy to help those struggling so it came as a surprise that he was struggling as much as he was. He had help lined up... all of which indicates he was winning his battle overall and still doing what needed to be done to work on it. It is very sad that mental health isn't taken more seriously in this world.
@@trainer_rhiannon it really is. Mental health issues prevent people from working and living their lives. You’d think it would be treated more seriously.
Trust me coming from a country where it is free it is still very hard to find a place that still takes in patients . It is tough. Even if you somehow get the courage after years - even decades . Therapy is a luxury. And it sucks so many of us have to suffer through something we have no fault in having . It can wreck your life . You can be the smartest student and still you wont fulfill your full potential . It is very frustrating governments are letting these people including me getting tortured by this pandemic aditionally. For many it is the final straw.
I know several people who don't work, but have mental health coverage through Medicaid.
Reading these comments from his friends are great.Khay sounds like a good guy. I hope his family gets some answers.
A body was found in Casper wyoming a few months ago and I don't remember seeing it being identified on the news.
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Was it human?
@@wolfganger7012 i assume so but do not know
It wasn't him. I'd be the first to know as I live here and Khay is my son.
@@trainer_rhiannon Bless you, Rhiannon. I so hope you find your boy. My very best wishes to you and your family.
MENTAL HEALTH IS SO IMPORTANT & SO UNDERATED 💯🙏🏼🌺🙏🏼
Many years ago,my boyfriend & I where homeless,but we had a car.We used to drive way back& park out there and sleep. Strange things happen out there!! I pray he's found & the family gets the answers they deserve!!
What kind of strange things?
@@abeham1078 r-rated things...
What things?
Ufo activity right
I think she's talking about intravenous heroin abuse
In January 2018, my son and his girlfriend were involved in a head on collision with an elderly couple. The elderly couple we driving a newer full size pick up when they got a patch of ice and drifted in to my son's lane hitting his S-10 head on. Because of the conditions, both drivers were going well below the posted stopped limit, however, accidents happen. The elderly couple walked away with minor injuries. The S-10 looked like a smashed aluminum can and both my son and his girlfriend were airlifted directly from the scene to the nearest trauma hospital. My son's wallet flew in the crash so he was labeled as a John Doe and I was not notified until about 3 hours after by his girlfriend family. Luckily I hadn't been on Facebook that morning or I will I would have seen was the wreck and the video of the rescue and people talking about how they both died. Glad I didn't find out that way. They both had major extensive injuries and went through numerous surgeries within the first 3 days but thankfully they are both alive and well. What I think got me the most after I knew they were going to be ok were the heartless cruel people that posted about how they got what they deserve for speeding and being reckless in bad weather and endangering the lives of the elderly couple. And that is just the mild comments I read on the fire department facebook page. These people didn't even bother to get their facts straight from the post above what they wrote. It added insult to injury and i was so furious. I was reading these posts from my son's bedside at the trauma hospital smile waiting to see if he was going to live. I wanted to lash out but I maintained the presence of mind to calmly write that that no one has been speeding or being reckless and that there was no fault bringing to anyone. It was just a tragic accident. I also reminded people that these stories were people that had families trying to cope with what had happened and were reading these posts.
I was lucky. I still have my son. My heart breaks for this mom dealing with everything that is going on. She shouldn't have to deal with the cruelty of people as well. I will be praying for you and your family and for the best possible outcome going forward. ❤️
They're only important if you assume they're important. It's usually a 13 year old trying to get attention or an adult with the brain of a 13 year old
I was a UPS driver briefly and a fellow driver I knew at my hub got senselessly murdered on the street by a mentally ill man. The comments by the general public were ridiculous. "His wife must've been sleeping with the UPS guy" haha. Meanwhile he was covering the route of a driver who was on vacation. I think people need to invent their own explanation for comfort. It's a chaotic world and your own mortality is a tough pill to swallow
I live here and have hiked these mountains many times. I have never heard about this but have heard about lots of other people going missing in the Superstitions over the years. You always feel like you're being watched. There are tons of mineshafts and caves overhead. The summer heat often means that trails are closed. The heat is just too brutal. I would never hike here alone. Weavers Needle is usually a pretty busy trail and very visible but I don't know what it's like in 120 degrees. There is a 17 mile hike he could've veered off to. I've done that hike too. Parts of it are difficult and the trail is difficult to find at times. Monsoons are no joke here. Praying for this family.
I haven't been on here for a long time. There are now 2 more missing since Khay. This is his mom and I'm speaking with Mindy about getting more info out on them as well. 3 missing men in the same area and hardly any media coverage. We have had to go to great lengths to get the word out. So thankful EWU did this. ❤️
I think YOU could actually find all of the missing 3 folks. Hope is not enough, experience through those mountains is what needed.
I wonder if khayman is near the trail head where the poster keeps going missing having survived and in fact does NOT want to be found, and that's why it keeps being removed. Mindy may be onto something with the trail cam theory. Worth a shot and hard to believe that wasn't a resource exhausted as well.
To all the people going through depression....Be strong one day things must get better.
Yes another video again today!
Maybe his uncle did something to him. It's usually the last person who is with someone that has done something to them.
You have no idea about the Superstitions do you. People have being disappearing for decades; heat, rattle snakes, falls are just a few of the things that can kill you. My great uncle went in with 4 other guys; when they were shot at by the Apache's he told his companions time to go home boys. He was friends with the Apache and he told them that was the only thing reason that received warning shots, other wise they'd all be dead. To the Apaches, the Superstitions were and are sacred.
he doesn't want to respond, his dad can't make his brother talk!
So we being hearing anyway
No, mom said uncle cleared. He is grieving and traumatized.
@@elliegotfredson3712 your a disturbed freak. Get some help love 🙄
November 2023: still missing
I spent a large portion of my childhood listening to stories about the superstition mountains. Apparently my great grandfathers college football team had decided to explore an abandoned mine and found a group of native americans/cannibals that were pretty much ready to kill them and eat em. This was 70-80 years ago that it happened but ive always wondered more about the mountains. What the hell is going on out there??
What?! Tell us more! What made him gather they were cannibals? Did they interrupt them while they were huddled around munching on human drumsticks or something?
@@43MinutesWithJamieRose 😂😂😂human drumsticks 💀
Wow! how did they manage to get out of that situation safely ? Did anyone get caught ?
Yeah right native Americans did not eat ppl especially 80 years ago so quit saying that you uneducated fool lol.
Your great grandfather is telling lies.
Im From Phoenix, when I was a child I remember my dad telling me all these cases of people disappearing . Anything from aliens to apache native American
Use to live on 16th and Bethany ahaha and before that I growing up in Apache Junction.
There’s really only two options here in my opinion. 1) He got lost, and the uncle is telling the truth about their unscheduled stop and Khay walking off/disappearing. 2) The uncle is involved in his disappearance and is misleading investigators on his last known location.
I can’t imagine the turmoil the family must feel on a daily basis not knowing where he is or what happened. My heart goes out to them, and I hope they get some answers soon.
He must have fallen down a well shaft.
That picture of them at 38:28 is absolutely precious! 🤗 Gosh this is an insane case…to say the least. I can’t imagine what Rhiannon is going through. Not even close. What a strong /beautiful person she is. God I hope he shows up one day. This is a chilling case. Once again EWU crew thx for sharing & putting together another doc. Your ch. is by far the best I’ve seen. I’ve been a subscriber for a while now. Since watching the perplexing “Salton Sea”episodes.. I forget the name of the young man who disappeared. It reminds me of this case a bit. It’s been a couple yrs. but I believe he just vanished from the area that he & his buddy were squatting around. 🤔 Now I’m going to look that doc up.., after watching this one. Thx again for all you guys do!! 👍🏼
This is desert 🏜and it's crazy 🔥hot in August....115-117 and not cooling off much at sunset. Hiking makes little sense until Fall,Winter
He wasn’t hiking he went to look at the view of everything smh
Sounds like the dogs couldn’t smell him anymore cause they probably went back to the car. Uncle sounds suspicious!
Dogs wouldn't smell him fall into a well.
One person who was absent from this presentation was the last person to see him. If he is not in the reported location maybe he was never there. Once all other possibilities are gone, look at what remains.
I lived in Arizona for a short while. Its a dangerous place to wander off just due to the elements. There is however very little tree or foliage cover and a drone or helicopter should be able to identify anyone on the ground rather quickly. Its too bad that people thought his picture was a mugshot and therefore ignored the call to search for him.
I'm assuming his uncle was cleared, right?
@Eternal Cowboy yeah but y would his uncle wait so long without looking...Or contact anyone? I would...That would be my 1st instinct, I would be like, "Wheres he at? Whats taking him so long?" So I would go look... Besides why were they there in the first place? They weren't installing an AC one desert? 🤷♂️
@@anniemhopeful1733 they went to a town called Tortilla Flats to work on an AC unit, when the job was done they drove back to their town but on the way Khay wanted to stop at the Vista (the view point) to get a view of the sunset which is why the uncle stopped there. The video does say the uncle looked for him and saw that he was heading southeast, he thought he was just scoping out a place to watch the sunset, so the uncle waited in the car for him to return, but Khay never returned. The video doesnt explain what happened right after but from his mom's comments on here, there were other people at the Vista point that were there at the view point and saw his uncle and Khay before he disappeared. People were also there when the uncle called 911. I would assume that the uncle also attempted to look and call out for him before making the 911 call, but those little details have been left out.
Something fishy around the uncle.
Yeah. They didn't talk about it much. I want to know more about the uncle and how they looked into him.
@m0ndayMay They need to check and see if any family ( including the uncle ) had an insurance policy on him. I'm not saying the uncle is gulity but he is the last person to see him alive. It doesn't make sense to go do air conditioning work in the heat and then after they finish go into the mountains and walk a trail in the heat??
Shout out to Mindy for getting so involved in this case. Hopefully this video unveils lingering mysteries.
We for sure need to do something about the 100k + mineshafts out in these areas where people hike with little to no warning about them. Especially if you end up in the area in the dark. Something I'm working on putting together for LEO, SAR, and state mining department.
@@mrs.castillo330 Are you Mindy? how cool. If this is you, amazing work on getting involved and bringing this information to us via EWU, thank you to both of you. And yes, so many mineshafts! I can imagine the dangers these can bring for hikers or anyone out there. I hope Khay is found soon, stay safe and please continue to keep us informed.
@@mrs.castillo330 FYI, there isn't 1oo,oo mineshafts in the area, but I do get your point, there are a few "open" without fencing around them.
No disrespect but the uncle was the last to see him? Was he investigated? Seems odd
Very well portrayed story and respectful to Khay’s. My heart goes out to them. BTW, I’m curious is your new format due to Covid or is this the new? Just curious, I like it.
I'm watching this 3 years on and just googled it if there are updates. On this day, June 24th 2024 he still hasn't been found.
Fuck….that is not good..
Also I live in Arizona in the Phoenix area and I never once heard his story covered on any news outlet. I had no idea that this man was missing
Unfortunately it wasn't covered much. That's why we have emailed every one we could to spread the word. He's still missing out there somewhere. So the more eyes we have aware the better.
Im confused.....Why will the uncle not talk? That made me find him a bit suspicious
He likely understands cops always make situations worse
Not incriminating yourself is not a sign of guilt
People are taking off the search posters at a certain point, and the sniffer dogs did not find a scent ... both aspects I find very strange ... 🤔 I wish all the best to the family and Khayman. My heart goes out to you ... 😞♥️
When watching this I cant help but think about WHO is the uncle?? He's the missing link to solving this. His name isnt mentioned anywhere that I could find. As the last person to see Khay he didnt do any interviews or go on record with his eye witness account. Every website omits his name. I find this suspicious.
the uncle killed him and is lying about everything. the cops need to pressure him
You might be right. They made an impromptu trip to a scenic spot after the work was done and then Khay "disappeared". I wouldn't be surprised if the uncle did kill him. Seems like we may never know.
That area is actually pretty dangerous, there are old mine shafts he could have accidentally fallen into. Deep down I'm praying he just wanted to dissapear, and he's found somewhere perfectly okay. The missing missing posters is actually a little suspicious.
This makes most sense
I hate to say this but a couple of valiums would have eased the panic attacks, anxiety attacks that are painful if they don't let up.
This is all based off what his uncle said? An uncle he wasn’t close to. An uncle who refuses to answer questions or do an interview? Maybe they should be searching somewhere else altogether. And start with getting some information out of that “uncle” of his
you all have been working hard! i really appreciate all that you do. i think it's great that this obviously isn't just work for you, but you're doing what you love. once again, thank you for your continued hard work and entertainment for us!
I've lived in Arizona my whole life this place is crazy n weird shit happens here all the time. There has been alot of missing people n kids period. Superstition Mountains especially!! Many people that went looking for the lost Dutchmans Gold have been found dead n people camping there have gone missing alot. I can't believe another person is missing from that area. Omg I feel so bad for the mother. He didn't kill himself people vanish alot in Arizona.
This video has me more emotional than any I've seen you guys put out before
Hi mom seems like such an amazing person and it’s heartbreaking to hear her talk about the son she obviously loved so much. What a sad tale.
I relate to this man. Why do people always say" be positive " when you have depression? I suffer severe depression and my family seems to think it's all an excuse to be lazy. I've never been lazy, I've always worked. Depression is hard, debilitating.
My heart goes out to those involved!
Why tf is no one questioning the uncle
I hate to say this, but it sounds like it's somewhat likely that he wandered off with the intention of bringing an end to his own life, even if it was a spontaneous decision he arrived at after ending up out there. Hopefully not. Hopefully, he's alive and well somewhere.
What a brave man to realize he needs help and plan on getting it, make an appointment. God bless his family with strength and keep him, bring him home safe is my prayer. Pls keep us up to date. Thank you 🙏
Thank you for your 🙏. He really was doing everything right. It makes it that much more difficult to wrap our heads around. Still no sign and we're 2 and a half years out. 💔
Arizona and Phoenix specifically has a huge deficit in alerting people of missing persons. We don't get texts unless it's an amber alert. People don't really post missing persons posters and they arent in places frequented by the persons. We NEVER know if people are missing here. It's a part of the culture. People who go in the desert go missing, next topic.
Very strange to be here for sure!
We're working to get this improved. I think the Gabby Petito case has opened ALOT of eyes to the missing person epidemic.
Just checked their Facebook page, and as of April 28th, 2022, Khayman Welch is still missing. May 12th marks 21 months. I hope you're found soon, bud.
I agree, it's very important to acknowledge the struggles someone faces when they have mental health issues. Depression is not a joke... It's a mental illness that claims so many lives. Sometimes people will make plans and try to look like everything's alright, but deep down nothing is okay. It's really hard to tell what's going on in a person's head, even if it's someone you're close to. I find that there are lots of kind people who bottle up their darkest feelings, all because they're worried about how their loved ones would feel about them. They're scared they would burden others.
I obviously don't know Khay nearly enough to say anything about him, but the way people describe him tells me that he had a heart of gold. He also didn't seem to understand his true value, and didn't appreciate himself enough. I could imagine a man like that not wanting to "burden" his loved ones with very dark thoughts, like suicide...
Regardless of what happened to him, I hope his family is able to find answers. And if he's no longer with us, I hope his remains can be brought home, and that his family can say a proper goodbye to him. The ability to visit a loved one's grave sometimes aids in healing.
I also hope the family knows that if he did commit suicide, not being able to stop it isn't their fault. After all, it's clear that he was loved very much. Sometimes people are forced to fight battles that are too hard to win. Sometimes the pain just gets too much, and people get tired. They just want to finally stop fighting, and just rest, be rid of the pain. It's incredibly sad, but it's nobody's fault.
My heart breaks for his mama and all that cherished him. The hate that people spew heedlessly is evil and shall be visited upon them TEN FOLD! Remember that when you comment! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Are there any interviews with the uncle?
His uncle refused to be interviewed.