NBA Players Don't LOVE THE GAME
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Gil explains why Patrick Beverley is right when he said 50% of NBA players don't really care about the game.
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Gilbert. You can never say that about The seventies eighties and nineties. SBA Silverspoon Basketball Association or Soft Basketball Association I know what you're thinking.🤔💭 And I'll play you one on one for 100k
Yea let me not go smash a model so I can get extra practice in. Only the players who had a privileged upbringing look at the game like Kobe and Arenas.
@@mikejones9906 lol smash model Gilbert was a good player The thing i'm confused about is he watched both errors
Aye Gil, Jo, get rid of McCants. This nigga had the nerve to speak as tho Lord Jeffrey Jordan didn't have a killer work ethic and determination and love for not just the game but competition in general. Kobe came in with the love but the work ethic came from Mike. He hooked up with Tim Grover, who Mike popularized to get that killer instinct. Wtf does he be talking about 🤦🤷
I'm not selfish for not passing, they're selfish for wanting it knowing they don't deserve it. Wow that's a whole different perspective.
well said indeed
But it's sooo accurate
Yup. You never or rarely practice your shooting but want me to give you the ball?? That’s bad basketball
Them not passing is making it harder them ... gifted players can get people set up easy ... fat ass harden leads the league in assist and is about to get a max..
GOAT MAMBA FOREVER. MISS MY DAWG MAN!!
I remember Kobe Bryant was asked in a interview post career, do you miss the game? He said nonchalantly no. So the interviewer asked him why. Kobe Bryant said, Because I gave the game everything I got.
I don’t think Kobe meant that he doesn’t miss the game.. he meant he doesn’t miss playing in the NBA anymore(RIP). He still loved the game since he was still training other players post retirement and had his youth camps.
@@nayeemazam2874 of course that's what he meant. Sheesh my guy, that's common sense!
@@jakjones8680 it’s morons like you, “my guy”, that put lebron over Kobe, to whom I have to explain how much better Kobe was in all aspects of the game! Use some “common sense” and don’t be an idiot! Learn the game “my guy”!
That’s why Kobe was so mad at Shaq. Because he knew the potential Shaq had if he dedicated himself to the game like he did. Shaq did not reach his potential at all. Put Kobe’s work ethic into Shaq’s body and you probably get the greatest player of all time.
Players used to asked Kobe why he doesn't pass and Kobe responded that why the fuck would he pass the ball to someone partied all day while he woke up at 4am and workout everyday
I feel that
That's literally what they say in the video
A coach told me a long time ago “You may love this game with all your heart, but It don’t have to love you back so find out what it means to you”
only if you're delusional
@@kredentials. please explain sir
@@vibangigan5336 you can’t blame the game of basketball for any of your choices n as long as balls and hoops exist it’ll be there for you to play
@@kredentials.sure if you’re being literal. Obviously a basketball can’t love a person. Delusional if that’s what you interpreted from the comment
@@IncSpen I interpreted you can chase hoop dreams and ruin the rest of your life, from that comment. That can only happen if you’re delusional about what basketball is.
Saying that Jordan didn't love the game is the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life SMFH
Yeah he was wild with that, invalidated his point trying to piggyback on Gil's
Yea Mfs be hating on Jordan if anything people was mad that Jordan wanted nothing but perfect from his team 💯💯
Though he didn't mention Jordan specifically, he corrected that later saying certain guys had the talent AND the work ethic, also when he said that Mike had "the love of the game" clause in his contract. I think he was pointing to just how gifted Jordan was.. For instance, you can't teach the out of this world 'hang time" Jordan had, that was natural. His superior "timing", the "killer instinct"...A player either has them or they don't...
Foolish crown silly comment because Kobe mimicked Mj & Mike worked harder than anybody in Practice etc.. Are these Dudes Superstars w/ Championship..? 😂
Can't take a guy serious with a cane and crown on his head at 38 years old🧐🧐
i was 100% with Rashad UNTIL he started talking about how Mike didn’t work 🤦🏾♂️ bruh.. there’s HOURS of footage from interviews and podcasts about how much of a dedicated freak MJ was. How it drove him crazy when he wasn’t good at something or couldn’t accomplish a goal.. But other than that, he spot on.
Bro i said same shit. Smh
He also was drinking and partying🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️. Two things can be true. Some players view that as not taking the game seriously never forget MJ and Barkley was hanging out late nights during the finals. Some people view that negatively as well
That's the point. Mike didn't love it, he was just gifted.
You can put 12 hours of work in sleep for 8 and party for 4. Jordan loved it
@@kingchiles4328 that just doesn’t even make any sense. He was more talented than everybody AND worked like a beast.. i mean watch The Last Dance.. Watch the compilations of the greats from back then talking about how much Mike worked. His coaches, teammates, trainers and everybody always talks about how insane his work ethic was. Yea he drank and smoked too (everybody did in that era) but he worked his ass off at the same time. That’s what made him the GOAT. He had more skill AND more drive than everybody.
I think Shaquille O'neal was the greatest example of a guy who basketball wasn't really his life but an all time great nonetheless
Charles Barkley
I think shaq wants to be a full time actor after that movie he was in
It was his life. You can be dedicated to your job but not have your job be your whole life. Almost everyone is like that.
shaq played at max 40% of his ability. if he played even to 80% of his ability he would be far and away the greatest player that ever played. he never loved the game. what else is a 7'1 guy supposed to do in america? Barkley played at 60% as well.
@@chemistryphysics716 If Shaq stayed the same size he did from 95-98 and was motivated I don't think the lakers lose till 08 celtics come along lowkey.
This applies to all walks of life, even outside of NBA...people that don't love what they do WILL NEVER Become Great or Achieve the same level of success as those that do. It's more than being Gifted...even someone like Jordan applied The Five P's to their game.
Proper Preparation Prevents Poor Performance
Yea and none of those p’s say anything about love.
Effective is effective. Why should we care what the man loves? That’s his business.
That's not true
@@akindele13 Give an example...if that's not true. Show me the person that doesn't have passion for their craft that is excelling over someone that does.
@@COPESLANDmovemaKER You read to react instead of understading.
“Love” or being passionate about your craft is what makes you apply the 5 P’s consistently.
I think you missed the point. Gil said there were all time greats that didn’t love the game. Which means they are so talented, they just went off that to get into the 1% if the nba. Both things can be true
I saw first hand how a young MJ showed up to a charity 3 on 3 basketball game, played by Patrick Ewing, Dominique Wilkins, and James Worthy, in Grant Park in Chicago and played in a pair of Levis, Some Jordan 3s, and a snake-skinned North Carolina Tarheels hat that he wore to the back and KILLED everyone on the court...for the love of the game. It was the most amazing thing I had ever seen. He wasn't scheduled to play at all, he literally just pulled up. Mike is the 🐐!
I have a cousin who played in the MLB for some years . Football was his passion & He hated playing baseball . He literally was never motivated to go to practice or work harder than the average player . He coulda lasted longer but didn’t take care of himself and got injured etc.
What!?? Does he know how hard it is to get into the MLB!??
This is gold. You learn so much from conversations like this. None of the screaming and yelling and ridiculous takes just to be in the media. Keep it up 👍
Jordan loved it , he became a GM he came back twice he got through the Celtics and Pistons, he carried the NBA and Nike. He got tired of the burden , plus the grief of losing his dad
There is a difference between not loving the game and just not having the game be the only thing you care about. MJ loves the game but also has other passions. Kobe is a guy who loved basketball and focused on nothing else. I dont know haw many guys are like kobe, probably only a couple.
Jordan absolutely loved the game, but… he never beat the Celtics, that was Detroit.
Rashad is outta his mind saying Mike didn’t love the game. Mike didn’t like the BS that came with the business of basketball and he stepped away because either
1. He was suspended for gambling
2. To mourn his fathers death
@@dash4800 yaw act like he was different than all the other greats...he was an attention junky..81 pts in a gm that had no.meaning at the end of the gm, selfish & most self entitled plsyer ever! BBALL aint that deep guys its entertainment..78% is make believe as owners are playing chess with us.
MJ was a sicko, he loved the game. He loves competition no matter what 🐐
I agree. I don't know what dude talking about.[ I think that's McCants.]
@@iraoden8206 yeah he lost me with that 1
The “Flu Game” showed how much Jordan loved the game and how much he hated to lose. When Detroit had beaten him up in the playoffs. A player who didn’t love the game would just have said “good season but can’t win them all”. Jordan spent the whole offseason strengthening his body so he’d be ready to face off against the Pistons. McCants got punked by Pat Bev.
I feel like basketball more than most sports has players that don’t love the sport because it is so heavily reliant on genetics, especially height. In high school a tall kid can make the team just because of his height and learn on the go.
People don’t understand how blessed you have to be to just make the league. Skills and talent obviously plays a factor but SO much has to go right in your career for the NBA to be option for you. Health, connections, right place right time, and opportunity.
If you're 7 foot tall, you don't need talent to get a shot.
I love Gilbert's detailed perspective and intelligence displayed about basketball.
The majority of NBA players don’t want Greatness.
That’s such cap bro
@@kenyonmckee2268 there’s nothing cap about it. There are only 5% great players in the NBA out of 450.
Im a professional athlete and this whole “greatness” thing is not for everybody. If everybody thought that way then there would be way to many egos. I love basketball , but I also love the money that comes with it. If tear both of my knees tmr, none of these mfers would give a damn about me, so In the off-season I’m trying to be the best version of myself not the greatest player ever.
Nah they want greatness they don’t want the work that comes with being great.
@@kenyonmckee2268 it’s not cap, anyone can say they want greatness that if it comes to them easy… then hell yea I want greatness. But that’s not how it works
Man thank you Gilbert for finally explaining the difference in layman's terms to these guys
Mj loved the game there’s no denying that. You cannot be the goat at anything and not love it plain and simple. The difference between say Mike and Kobe, is that Kobe had to work harder than Jordan to get to that level, but to say mj didn’t love the game or spend as much time training and practicing is ridiculous.
Mike was competitive in anything.. Kobe loved the game didn't do anything care about anything than basketball..Mike left basketball to go play baseball.
@@stebossm3195cuz his dad died you clown. His dad wanted him to play baseball and he did that as his dying wish. When he finished it. Then he came back with vengeance and won three straight.
@@stebossm3195 Because he was talented enough to do so. His Father passed away and wanted to make his dad proud. He did that. Came back and had a 3 peat. Kobe called him for x and o advice. Watch ya mouth
@@stebossm3195stupid
@@stebossm3195 you can’t say he didn’t love the game just because he retired after 3 straight rings and his father dying in the car he bought him after being robbed for the stuff he allowed him to buy with money he gave him
Mike didn't just, up and walk away because he was "tired of this shit." He was grieving his father's murder and he did the thing his dad wanted him to do.
Mike had a "love of the game" clause in his contract which allowed him to play anytime, and anywhere he wanted to. That was very dismissive to say he just packed up and left without giving any context to the situation.
Mike left cause of his gambling problem and the NBA covered it up.
@@dmorgs2384 you’re a fucking loser.
@@dmorgs2384 🤡
@@dmorgs2384no Mike got bored of winning so much
@@Grind2Excellence you know he didn’t win every series and every game right ??? Lmfao
Jordan practiced the hardest on the team. He would get on his teammates ass for not being good enough. To say Jordan was just gifted but didn’t put in the work is the dumbest statement on this show.
And Jordan had s gambling problem that's why we didn't play for two years he got secretly suspended that's why he played baseball and when his suspension was over he left his baseball team very fast and wore 45.
Facts . First one to get to the gym and last to leave . Jordan didn’t make his basketball team in high school. He had to work to be the greatest . Kobe got his obsession from Mike ! Mike loved the game and was talented physically
I love how Andrew Wiggins used to look like that gifted dude who doesn't care about the game, but everything seemed to have changed when he got to GS, he even plays great defense now. 😄
That shows you how terrible the Timberwolves are. I think it was a video of zach lavine at the draft disappointed he was drafted to that team, i genuinely can't remember.
@@SolaceMcfly Most likely. As he was going to the stage, he mouthed something that looked like he said, "F*** me."
Wiggins didn't have a great work ethic similar to Ben Simmons and Zion
Let’s be honest here majority of athletes play sports because of the money involved if playing basketball didn’t pay the money they do there wouldn’t be as many people wanting to play basketball that’s true.
no shit a lotta people wouldnt do alot of things if money wasn't involved
its a gamble giving someone life changing money an expect them to perform like they had nothing
@@gmoney5903 ok so it’s not about of the realm of possibility that certain players don’t love the game 24/7 I don’t need a bunch of old heads or pat Beverley of all people saying this when he hasn’t gotten better at anything offense related.
@@kenyonmckee2268 tf is your point then kid? If it’s that obvious and you don’t need old heads to tell you….why watch a video of old heads having the discussion
@@hothandquis941 cause it popped up and I wanted to watch and a dude named hothandquis calling me a kid is insane u should talk.
I understand both aspects, some people just play the game because of the opportunities basketball has given them, which is fine you can’t force someone to love the game. And it’s always going to be like that, and really it always has.
The fact that Mike put "For The Love Of The Game" in his contact speaks volumes
Rashad should not be talking about loving the game…his history says enough
For real he is delusional. If he loved the game like he talking right now he would have had a much better career.
Straight facts!! And I have no idea why he wears a crown .. cause he ain’t no king
Man's best season was 14pts a games. 😭
And he was talking about Giannis man was homeless and won a chip and two mvps he gotta chill. 😂
Facts…he was what we call a waste
For me, I came to competition through tennis not basketball so maybe I have a different perspective. When I was young and I was getting frustrated with tournaments I went to my dad and said "I don't think I love tennis anymore." He looked at me and said "Playing tournaments isn't about loving tennis, it's about loving competition." He only said that one sentence, but there was so much meaning in it and I think it applies perfectly to this conversation. You don't go out and run lines for 30 minutes because you love running lines, you do it so that when you get in that moment of competition you KNOW that you can look your opponent in the eye and be more prepared than them.
Really enjoyed this content ..u can tell this translates to any art form ..love seeing these brothers sit down and give great perspectives on the game 🏀
Unless you’re following someone 24/7 you can’t judge someone’s love of the game or work ethic. You can only guess.
Pat definitely loves the game he was a 40ppg killer coming out. But the media/organization/staff etc wrote him off had to go overseas KILL and come back and shrink his game just to stay alive. We all see EVERY play matters to the man. He's all passion and dawg. I F's wit pat man
What pat bev is true its probably been like that forever. Some just liking the lifestyle more so then wanting to win and get better. Also this is how i feel when im at work a lot of people complain bóut the money but will be doing the worst work performance and bring other people down its frustrating
I swear every job I've worked you have people who think they work so hard and deserve more money when they have the poorest performance.
Surprised they didn’t mention Vince Carter. He had more talent than everyone but at times it seemed like he lacked the passion
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@@brianjeffries1978 Chris Paul loves the game man tf you talking bout
@@brianjeffries1978 you listed a lot of names that have no business being here lmfao
@@Professorfrenchfry I understand that but he's doing it for his family not the love of the game
@@Professorfrenchfry yes my man you don't know the half of it I get you the other list
I completely understand what Gil is saying as someone who really loves basketball, i never made it prob cause im 5’9” and just didn’t have the talent of other players but i love tf outta basketball, i would play all the time and work on my game, but was only ever good enough to hang in pick up
that line " if I was a lil bit taller" hit home for so many of us... and it was great example cause if Pat Bev was 4 inches taller hed be on bully mode 24/7...
I graduated in 03 and played pf at 6'5 I was expected to reach about 6'9 but didn't grow again after 15. Needless to say most of my d1 offers dried up because I was undersized for my position. It's still crazy to me cause I was the #4 ranked pf in my state I really do wish I would of gotten those 4" lol
Mike.....? Nah, my man. Should've used another example. He didn't just wake up the 🐐. Ok, we get it.. You're a Kobe guy... But you clowned yourself with that one.
Brandon was quiet during this segment lol I feel like he was the type of player they’re talking about
He’s always quiet
@@freddycalipari4242 when Rashard is there yea but he usually has at least a few things to say but he literally didn’t say anything
I was wondering about that too. I wonder if he had any regrets
Once Brandon got a deal he pulled back big time.
Let’s be real here, they’re talking about McCants and he doesn’t even realize it. MCCants talking like he was on Gil’s or Kobe’s work ethic. The guy didn’t even outlast his rookie contract and played like 3 years. I’ve heard stories of him being the epitome of what they’re talking about. Dude had a huge ego and thought he DESERVED everything. If he had Gil’s work ethic he would have been in the league a long time
Kinda mad they disrespected Jordan like that. The man was obsessive about winning and he did step away but tbf his dad did die and that was part of his connection to the game gone
Losf me when he said mj didn't love the game 😂😂
Did he, though? He’s the goat but it seems like he was just good at basketball and had other interests. Not saying he didn’t put the work in, but I don’t know if he loved basketball or if he loved winning and basketball was what he was good at
you can't even mention basketball without mentioning MJ. MJ is the game. one of one. MJ's ability is so great that if he played at only 50% ability he would still be the greatest. He had no challenge and he still worked to play at 80% of his ability.
Ona real you woulda never saw kobe ina baseball jersey 🤣🤣
@@Augrills Loving to win is the ove of the game. Why did he want to win? Also, mike wasn't the most gifted, he worked on all aspect of his game. Kenny the jet, talked about Mike having bad handles in college and how he worked for extra hour of practice just to be good at it. He changed his game, mid 90's, he developped a poster game and all that. But This guy is saying that he didn't love the Game?
@@appobiri1484 I see what you’re saying but what I mean is he’s a dude that wants to win at anything. Don’t matter if it’s basketball, baseball, poker, pissing contest, tic tac toe, MJ is going to try to win it
Once you get paid. It’s a job no matter how much you love it
Thank Ya! The purpose and meaning of a job is to fund and finance your life! Everything gets old over time!
Disagree
Hard disagree
Watching these younger kids these days they have the height they have the length they have the help the resources they just don’t have the mentality or the will to do what we did I say this every day bc I’m 6’1 if I had these guys height 6’4 an up I’d be a killer thank you Gill bc a lot of ppl don’t get it
You can tell Rashad McCants never truly did research on Michael Jordan. That man's work ethic was as maniacle as Kobe's. That's why they got along so well, they wanted it more than anyone else. They're both psychos in the way they work.
Stockton also
Thank you for correcting this man, Gil. Talm'bout Jordan didn't love the game like that. Crazy. Man literally had a clause in his contract called For Love of the Game.
Could you imagine the evolution of the game if every player did love the game...🤔
The same as now. Loving the game doesn’t mean you’ll be any better. Everyone has a cap.
@@Entrepreneurandfree So you saying if Kobe didn't love the game; or Mike they would've had the same career...🤔🤨 I disagree.
@@michaelrice9163 those are the extremes. I'm responding to your "every player" qualifier. You can love your job, but that doesn't give you any additional talent in your role. There will always be differing levels or love which will equate to differing levels of skills.
@@gregscott363 I'm simply believe that if more than less say 50% of the NBA; loved the game the way a Mike, Kobe, or even Bron did and does. The league as a whole would be better. Which would cause it to evolve even quicker than it already is.
Just how far do you think the game is able to evolve? Exactly what do you imagine bball will look like in the future? 🤔.....Y'all don't realize how dumb y'all sound
McCants talks like he was a NBA superstar
Right 😮😮 how long did he play 2 seasons
Who?
@@Quran112083 Bro I can go in on this topic in 1993 to 2001 every player in the acc left there sophomore year it's was about the money.The booster wasn't playing top dollar for athletes And year the Acc was dominate
Patrick Beverley probably listening to Jack Harlow- they don't love it and felt that shit😂😂
🌽 y gtfoh with your shite music
9:55 Gil always reference how he used to chase A.I. 😂
Yeah and the competition was spread wide
Dont be scared call out the guys who y’all think dont love it
No need for that...
We all know who they are. Ben Simmons, Zion, KAT. Those are certain. My hot take is Zach Levine. I don’t think he cares
@@Augrills that’s definitely a hot take cause Zach is a gym rat. Don’t speak out your ass
@@Augrills that’s why I laugh when Ben is mentioning just media narratives
He did. He said then wolves players lol, KAT and Wiggins
Wow! One of the truest and best interviews ever! Salute fellas
How is this true when mccants and Jennings were two of the people who didn’t love the game
To imply that MJ was just gifted and didn't love the game is asinine. MJ might of loved the game more than anything else...Kobe is his copy...kobe emulated MJ in every basketball respect...why would you think Kobe loved this game any more than MJ...and MJ didn't simply walk away....i hate when people say that. He was dealing with the murder of his father, and likely blaming his own success for his death.
Gil cleared it up. The GOATS are the the ones with the talent + work ethic.
Thank you. Real, Impartial people need to start having platforms on sports because too many people have connections or hard feelings with folks and it’s keeping them from telling the truth/facts and, as a result you have an audience of ppl thinking one way because clearly the masses can’t think for themselves.
@@MrsKartier Ehh, the impartial people are the ones that cant accept this opinion. What h'es saying doesn't have to be fact - he can be wrong (and he's wrong a lot). But when you are the greatest, no one will be able to accept a statement like this when the question arrives. Other players' parents have died during their careers - parents that were closer than Mikes dad was, and they came back by the end of the year. Truth is, Mike got so good at ball trying to prove his dad wrong. By then he was already the best - so when his dad passed, he lost a purpose. That's what people don't want to look at. Because it hurts the perception of "Michael Jordan IS Basketball" that was marketed to us way back before there were documentaries. And make no mistake, the lesser players that work hard will never be talked about because they never reach the same level of success because the talent isn't there. That's true in every facet of life. There will always be people working way harder to get where YOU are at
@theinktician you simply can't speak on what someone else loves or doesn't love...it's that simple...and you can't amass the accomplishments of MJ without loving this game. Imagine becoming successful and being able to provide your family the best life, then as a result of your success your father is robbed and killed...yes other players parents have died...duh...but there deaths are not connected to the success of their child.
Kobe being his "copy" is the biggest myth in sports history. He absolutely nothing close to Jordan's level outside of freethrow efficiency.
Thats what make steph so great.. he wasnt born with physical gifts and basketball talent. Even his shooting his born through effort from his chilhood practice up to now and he became the goat shooter. He is a weed that grew straight up.
The perfect example is Ben Simmons
I think you're right my friend. Ben could have been so much better, and still can, IF he truly loved it...Obviously, he doesn't...
Ben is that guy y’all want to believe doesn’t love the game cause of the media. It’s corny think for yourself
Ben has been on emotional damage since that game vs atlanta😂😂😂 and that made him quit basketball😅
& zion
Ben main issues were injuries.
Did he just say Mike didn’t love the game 😂😂😂 Mike was punching teammates for not working hard as him
He’s retarded. He also loves to say negative things about Mike whenever he gets the chance . Jordan must’ve really rubbed ppl the wrong way with his personality. A lot of people don’t like him and don’t know how to separate their feelings from actual facts.
Damn, that dog is so well behaved...he just sat there so obediently, listening to Gilbert and them, talk ball
My favorite basketball player of all time is Charles Barkley #CB34 #CB4 But even I know he never had that passion and love for the game... not like his former counterpart MJ... Even Moses Malone called Charles out in his earlier days for gaining too much weight
What he said about jordan was so wrong smh
That Kob stry touched me Gil... 🙏OnG!!
I’m sick rashad McCants even has a platform
He's too slow to have a show. This really Gil show 😂
That’s why Steph Curry my GOAT. I know he not the best, but he embodied every feeling of basketball at it’s core. Flow state, kill mode, pure joy, pain & sacrifice, camaraderie & trust in a team. It’s everything a CYO or good AAU team or high school underdog squad feels at its best moments, on the largest scale.
Really great topic and how you presented it, guys. Well done.
Mannnn Gil’s breakdown of these situations is great! It shows that he still loves the game!
“You asked me for my hustle, I gave you my heart” ~Kobe
I think AI and Shaq are perfect examples of goats that were COMPETITIVE but didn’t LOVE the game
Yep
Shaq loved the game but he was too big and it takes a toll own your body if you work out too much.
You didn't watch any of AI's games. You just parrotted what the media told you.
@@marshallmaxwell2494 shaq himself has said he wish he took it more serious than he did
@@michaelmamitesarmecin5137 im probably older than u goofy i watched ai play he left it all on the court , extremely competitive, but he didnt approach the game like someone like kobe did..he was just talented af, basketball wasn’t even his first love it was football , he wanted to be in the nfl before he even touched a basketball
I feel like players who struggle with they jumper don’t love the game
Real shit. I question their iq land focus
You can't say Mike didn't love it when Kobe looked up to him and modeled his work ethic after Mikes.
Kobe never robbed the game like mike did…
Which makes lebron so great bc he got it all even at a young age and still put work into his game for 20yrs!!! He could a just called it quits when they have him $90M before he even played a nba game but he didn’t . STRIVE FOR GREATNESS
🤣🤣
@Jim Wilson he spends $2 million a year on his body to prepare himself for the nba season.
@Jim Wilson same way ik your gay
He put in work where? He still can’t shoot 3s, he still can’t shoot free throws, he still can’t dribble stop it
@@BDAthleticInsider and yet still the all time nba scoring champ 😂😂🤡🤡🤡
I think a mjority of the guys who don't love the game are probably bigs and super athletic dudes. They were so naturally gifted that they were essentially forced into the game and they can succeed without devoting their whole life to the game. The smalls are the ones who truly have to work for it and to do that you really have to be passionate about the sport.
Did he say Mike don't love the game...I've heard his name before rashad but I don't remember him at all who is this guy
Facts 😂😂😂😂😂 MJ had a love of the game clause in his contract
Yea mike stole his girl or something Gilberto weird ass corrected him and 5 min later he said some moe mj bs
We need more of this truth Gil! 💯
Wrong !!!!MJ worked very hard.
Lol. One example😂
Worked super hard at gambling 🎰
Did that guy with the crown just say Mike didn’t want it bad enough?!?
Perfect Example... When They Ask Giannis was Your Season a Failure?? His Answer should Have Been.. HELL YEAH WE FAILED.. All That Work we put in all Season Long.. My Team Just QUIT COMPETING.. That's Love For the Game.. 👍🏿👍🏿
Thats stupid and gives me the impression you never competed in athletics.
What? Giannis can’t have gotten to where he is right now from where he came from if he didn’t love the game.
I'd Bet The Fired Head Coach for the Bucks Loved the Game Too.. The Bucks Simply Under Performed... Admitting Failure shows you have a passion for what you do..
Bro that was the worst take ever. Giannis was trash when he came in and turned himself info an mvp.
This is why more respect need to be paid to the "plumber era" of the 60s because they played for the love of the game and winning
Kobe was the prime example of love for the game tore his Achilles and still shot his free throws at some point I always want to put Kobe is the number one goat over a lot of NBA players will you talk about his work at his Love for the game
If you play an 83 game season for most of your career, you love the game. Plan and simple. Guy said they don't love the game and that's why you see them load managing.
Great example of how you can you say Ben Simmons without saying Ben Simmons
Nah not at all. The media warped your mind why is the first guy you thought of
This was one of the best topics I have seen in the last few years I would love for this topic to go to a lot of different athletes professional athletes around various Sports. A lot of people who's listening if you not a D1 All-American or real athletes as far as putting the grinding get injured coming back you really wouldn't understand. But for all those athletes with the IQ and playing Put the hours in you know you know and you feel very proud to hear Agent Zero speak! Good job fellas
I was wit Shad until he talked about Mike. 😂 Saying Mike didn’t love the game is ridiculous. Mike wasn’t just playing to take care of his family 😂 You don’t win 6 championships 6 MVPs just hooping cuz u getting paid. 😂😂 But again Shad got past issues wit Mike 😂
I’ve experienced this as someone who is not even close to ever being a professional basketball player. You get in a tournament and people are cocky and it’s going to be easy. After 10 minutes those same cocky people are horrified because they realize they really have to play hard. That team goes from 20 players to 8 real quick. I can only imagine how horrible it is to look around at lazy teammates as a professional.
My weight lifting buddies say I’m crazy when I say I would go to a last place team for 20 mil, vs a first place team for 10 million. Time to leave Childish thoughts behind and look at it as straight business. My kids can’t eat a championship ring, I can’t drop that championship ring on the desk to pay their tuition, I can’t trade that ring for a Lexus coupe. You don’t have to love the game or any other job to love what that profession brings you. Heck, I don’t love my job, but I damn sure love the lifestyle it’s allowed me to live. I’ll bet more NFL players hate their job even more than most NBA players hate theirs.
There's nothing childish about finding something you love more than money. The NBA rookie minimum is nearly 1 million dollars. There are about 450 active players every year. All of them, including 2-ways and 10-days. make more money in a year than most people on the planet.
But you can't buy an NBA championship. To some people, proving that you're the best through dedication and hard work is worth more than all the money in the world.
@@tetsuya2ko Then why is he saying most of the players hate the game??? Aren’t they all dedicated and work hard too ??? Only people without money say money is not everything. There’s no way that a championship ring is worth more than all the money in the world. Such childish thinking. Fans love the game but players work at a job. I personally know a retired NBA player who readily admits that he didn’t like the job, but his home that we played poker at was spectacular. Nobody…..I repeat…..Nobody is playing professional sports for free. It’s disheartening for some fans to find out that their favorite player or players are only in it for the money.
@Nathan Hollis KD gave up $10 mill to join the Warriors. LeBron, Bosh, and Wade took pay cuts to form the big 3 in Miami. Shaq left $30 million on the table to join the Lakers. These guys are already filthy rich, plenty of athletes have chosen the opportunity to win over a larger paycheck. Are they childish?
@@tetsuya2ko as you said, they were already multi millionaires They rightfully so chose the money first and chased the ring later. Don’t get hung up on the contract amount. They knew endorsements and shoe contracts would make up the balance. They really didn’t leave anything on the table to chase the ring. And personally, I think anyone who leaves that type of money on the table is foolish and childish. I’m business over fan-ship. Others are championship or bust. It’s ok for us to have different thoughts on the matter.
I agree and I was saying it when people would want to cut my head off. You can't take half the year off and say you love anything. It's just a means to an end.
What about Shaq? He was overweight most of his career...
AI is prime example of this. He didn’t eat,sleep and breath professional basketball. Mans would skip practice, go to the club & come drop 40 lol
Why should all NBA players love the game? Owners treat it like a business, if you're not a star player you can get traded at anytime, owners majority of time if you're not a star wont pay you what you're worth,
That's in life, though. I found that out when I was working at a call center. There are people who just want to pay bills and don't care about bonuses and incentives. When you're good at something and you take it seriously, you have the potential to create a change and lay a foundation. People don't get it.
Facts. I been telling people our generation may be more talented but don’t give af about the sport fr. That why Jordan the goat fr
Love these boys man....fr. Ball players that give you the real with no bs....I rock wit that. Keep bring bringing real sht fellows...appreciate it. Real fan.
This is any industry or sport anywhere!
Facts
Jokic is a good example for this. Don't ever tell me he loves playing basketball. The guy has this "let's get this over with" face ALL the time
Pat was dissing Gilbert too
LISTEN! mfers just get a hard on for diss the younger generation is all, some where around that 30yo mark is when that chip gets activated 😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is why I only really like a few players. The majority of the league is not leaving it out all on the court
I kinda like the show when it’s just Brandon as a guest
I remember in 2008 where I actually applied myself and got a B+ on a math test and I told myself to apply that effort into all aspect in my life and actually moved ahead a couple of steps. I've been trying to get that feeling back for a long time
Perfect example: bill laimbeer. His az was already rich but loved the game. It wasn't about the bag. Bill loved to compete, play hard bullshit and win
Dead on cuz
1:39 S/O to Pat Riley for getting Jimmy buckets. He saw through the smoke and mirrors and got him to the Heat.
Mccants was one of those players who loved the perks
Mccantz was a bum.
Great conversation fellas!
SAY NAMES!!!
By the way Gil mentioned Minnesota & Jimmy situation and having heard a bit about what happened, I think KAT is part of these guys who don’t really love basketball
Considering his era, some of the Spurs hall of famers too, personally Tim Duncan always strikes me as someone who was gifted but not passionate
@@enava3398I agree
Mike was obsessed…McCants you tripping
I would add that there are a lot of us who envy people who love and have a great passion of what they do. U can’t turn love on like a switch. That too is a gift.
Thanks I needed to hear that parent segment meant alot