BEST TIE DOWN KNOT EVER. DON'T MISS THIS ONE !!!
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- If you tie down long bars of material across your truck bed side walls, or other cargo that needs to stay together, this knot is absolutely perfect. NOTE: This hitch is intended to be the mid point wrap on a tie down secured at both ends of the strap. A single loose end is not advised. I have been told it's called a scaffold hitch. If you try it, you are going to like it. Take A Look !!
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There is too much chatter before getting to anything worthwhile (at 0:39), but when he finally gets down to business, the knot (it is actually a bind rather than a knot) and his demonstration are very good.
why not just use a "clove hitch" .. it is the almost same thing, easier to learn & does a better job ... instead of "making up a new type of knot" .. ( the clove hitch has been used iin trucking & transportaion since Cleopatra was ruling egypt ) ... & it has NEVER failed .
maybe use a ... "trucker's hitch" .. easy to tie, can tighten at any moment .. never comes loose .. & it is easy to un-tie.
Old days, this knot was used by sailors to make rope-wood ladders. I use it sometimes on my boat to fix oar or similar stuff. Greetings from Poland! Great channel!
Thanks for checking in from Poland. I'm pretty sure you are correct about the ladder fact.
I think that is the "Wife Knot", keeps you centered and pinned down!
We use this when rigging loads with a crane in industrial plants, so the slings don't slip up when a load is applied. This is a choker hitch with a "bite" or "dead bite". When you pass the strap underneath itself, it creates the "bite", which tightens the strap on itself, thus securing the objects (especially round) much better so it won't slip. Very useful. Boilermakers Local 1 Chicago. ✌
Thanks for the enforcement.
Dad taught me this more than 60 years ago. Great little video. Short. Too the point. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
Looking forward to the rotary table set-up tips! Thanks for the cool knot tip!
In the industrial rescue world that is called a double Munter hitch. Excellent knot. Good job!!!
A great knot that I use a lot... not a lot of the up and coming Snowflakes or Millennials have ever been taught this by their Dads. Glad you posted it so others know.
It may have already been invented, but I stumbled across it messing around tying loads. It works great.
Great tip, thank you! Don't let the negative comments get to you. We all know those are the people using a single piece of twine to tie drywall down to the roof of their car......
Joe - congratulations you just self discovered the scaffold hitch.
Wow you're so smart I wish I could be just like you
@@hotvodka7641 He is right. You should wish to be smart like him.
I just do one lap around the cargo, been using it successfully for 35 years. The first ten years or so we even used rope, never had any appreciable movement of the cargo, and never once lost something off the truck or trailer. Although this similar method looks good, I think the only potential advantage would be less risk of the cargo moving left to right if it's tied down with less than optimal downward force. I always tie my one lap starting and ending the loop on top of the cargo, to maximize downward force and prevent the cargo from rolling naturally on the bed or tailgate. Anyway, thanks for a great video. I appreciate your advice and will give this method a go.
As a sailor, eagle scout, and mountaineer, it is not often I learn a new knot. I dig this.
Bring on the rotary table , I’m all eyes and ears. Been waiting for it . Thanks for the knot, it looks like it would work with rope or strap, throw a truckers hitch on that tail and you will be gold. 👍 !
Your knot is essentially a Marlin Spike Hitch. Very handy knot to know!
Excellent tie down knot ✅.... yes please for rotary table tricks ✅
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It’s probably not in knot books, because it’s intended use is for cargo straps on pipe and logs. I have 18yrs in the utility industry. I know it as a CHILLZ KNOT. Some people might call it a modified scaffolding hitch or reef knot, if used with cord or rope. Caution , I have used it on thin wall and if you ratchet the working side to much , it can dent or crush thin wall aluminum.
Knowing where and how to use the right knot is very beneficial. But not as much a inspecting your gear and knowing the safe working limits.
What good does it do to tie the right one if your webbing or rope , equipment and gear are overloaded? Be safe thanks for the reminder
Thank you! I foresee that knot coming in quite handy now that I have a truck again.
Its great for bundles and loads you want to keep centered.
If you have a longish flat piece that may catch the wind it will vibrate like mad. It is best to put a twist in the flat section as a wind "vortex breaker" which will stop the flapping and noise.
Finally a way to keep some 2x4s centered in my truck bed , Thanks for showing this ! 👍
Glad to help
The official name of that Knot is the “Build something cool knot”😀
I would have thought that name was taken by now. Thanks for checking in Dale. Good to hear from you.
Please add a rotary table to your videos. For a guy just starting out they are invaluable, and one of the best teaching sources available. Thanks
I don't know if anyone already told you that this did exist, but it can be found in Ashley's book of knots from the '40s, as knot number 2159, on page 348. No name is given, but the purpose listed in the book is to "sling a plank on edge", which it says was sometimes necessary in some sailing contexts. A lot of his sailing knots date at least back to the 18th century, but the description for this one doesn't say where he got it, so I'm not sure how old it is. It obviously works very well for this use also, and you should be proud to have come up with it.
I've seen it used to build rope and plank ladders too.
Nice! Also, thanks for making it short and sweet. I hate when ppl waterboard me with a 10 video full of rambling haha
Got a couple of 2x8x10 footers a while back and used this knot, the boards were locked down tighter than a snakes asshole.
Reading some of the comments saying how over complicated this is baffles me.. Hell tying your shoes takes is more of a process than this but people still bitch and moan.
This is pretty simple to replicate to be honest...
cant wait for the rotary table set up
Joe, it seems you're going to have to redo this video, because the amount of idiots who can not figure out by just looking at the video that you use the loose end to ratchet it down is amazing.
Forget about the fact that it's written as well.
That's why we need nut allergen warnings on packets of peanuts.
If you don't know that the other end goes into the strap ratchet, you don't belong securing anything.....LOL!
It would be so helpful if they just read the description.
I think those are the ones whose mom DID let them play with plastic bags. :-)
Nice knot!
As a truck driver in the oilfield in Alaska, (along with being a former boy scout and commercial fisherman, very fond of knots) we used the “gut wrap” method (always wrapping the strap over the load, and around it once, then ratcheting to the other side). This made me always think “over” was the best/only way to keep the load from rolling. In reality, at least in my experience with rope tie-downs, it doesn’t always prevent the load from moving.
I haven’t tried it yet, but I do believe your either/or method using the extra loop, will work fine...and help me overcome a mental stigma of “over” being the only way! Haha!
Thanks for teaching this old dog a new trick!
That is the triple lindey knot. We've been using it in the french foreign legion for years!
Hey Joe, remember, if you can't tie a knot; tie a lot. Good vid
Great video and well explained. Now to read the "instant expert" opinions in the comments.
👍 on rotary tables. One can never learn “too much”. Thanks!
One thing that has never failed me. If u can’t tie knots, tie lots
This is me especially the last part lol
My dad discovered this years ago and showed me when we were moving a mattress. It is really an excellent principle to keep in mind, especially if you use a truckers hitch for the final tie off. You have to be careful when passing the rope around. This is why I like to use a rope bag. You pass the rope bag around and under as an organized bundle while the rope pays out as you go!
Also make that final trucker's hitch an auto-locking trucker's hitch; those are amazing.
Be sure that you D-rate the strap 30% any time you put a not or a hitch in it. So a 1500kg rated stap is after a hitch or knot D-rated to 1000kg.
Also same for any hard eges that also require packing ie a piece of rubber or some form of sleave over the strap. Some situations may need futher D-rating including well used straps or older straps. Throw out sun damaged staps and any that have been cut or damaged via chemicals etc.
Thank you! A guy rented my toy hauler and tied down his Can Am with some lightweight straps the dealer sold him. I told him no bueno. When he returned the machine had gotten loose and damaged his new toy and my toy-hauler. They don't think about the forces of the 1500 lb machine pulling on those straps when you hit the brakes or get in an accident. Spend the money!
just in case those cardboard tubes break loose!
Thanks to you now my 5 to 15 meter lamp posts are completely safe and secure for all road users on my Truck.
Sounds like a resting block with some attached wedges may also be a good idea.
@Joe Pieczynski oh yes everything sits on wooden blocks and tied together. My job is keep them secured on trailer... Thank you so much
Umnmm, I'm a flatbed driver and as long as you secure the other end (which you should always do) a simple cinch strap (over, under, and back over again) as demonstrated at the 1:50 mark; WILL NOT move, walk, etc. Try it.
My thoughts exactly. And depending on where your hooking your straps you should have no fwd, bwd movement either.
+1. Simple and solid. Never had a problem.
Great knot Joe! Thanks for sharing the knowledge and "knot" keeping it to yourself! Any of your small workshop and machining tips will be greatly appreciated. If you share all that you know, just one a week, that should cover about 148+ years of videos!
Opposing larks heads. Good thinking.
Joe, I'm going to use your knot. Whether it has a name or not, I'm calling it the Pie-Tie! Keep up the good work w/ the channel!
Awesome! Thank you! You'll like how it holds.
Your hitch seems so close to an alpine butterfly loop with the posts being the loop of the knot. You would just need to turn your bight towards you and fish the tag through the eye, away from you, between the first turn around the left working end and the posts before feeding it through the bight. That probably does not make sense, but hey, no sense in changing something that is working!
Thanks again for sharing something that many of will find useful. It is a shame that more people know so little about securing a load. I have seen too many items that have flown out of a truck into the middle of a road because they weren’t tied down properly.
Please show us tips on how to secure a rotary table.
My husband said that he could secure that load with less strapping and probably stronger by trying a simple clove hitch with the legs on top. With this knot, you can secure your load off center without any movement. Try it, you’ll use less rope/strap to secure the load.
I may be wrong, but I was always under the impression a clove hitch is a termination knot. Like something you'd tie a horse to a rail with, or a rowboat to a post. I'm not sure If a clove hitch is intended to be used between 2 points.
"My husband said that he could......."
That's great, but how can you recommend something based on hearsay? Let us know when you try it yourself.
@@joepie221 You are correct. And a clove hitch would tend to want to spin your load when pulling from both ends of the line . Not a good choice.
When I said, “ My husband”, it was actually me; the husband. To secure a load as shown you would secure one end of your road/strap, tie your clove hitch around your load, then secure the other end with any number of knots. I would recommend a trucker’s knot. My wife wasn’t a boy scout.
Devising a good hitch on your own is always so satisfying. It matters not that another may have discovered it already - so few things can be completely original in the fullness of time, anyway.
What keeps the load from sliding to the left?
I believe he was just showing how to secure them from moving apart from one another. If he was to have more line on what he was showing to pull it on further to either a hook or eye, he could have synched it down further with a truckers hitch and it would not move any direction.
Yes for more machining videos. And whatever strikes your fancy. Your interests seem to hit a good sweet spot.
A plain clove hitch would be just as good, and probably a lot stronger. You're really reading too much into this solution. All the angles you're introducing to the line are weakening it.
Knots will weaken for certain, but looping wouldn't have much if any strength reduction at all, in my experienced opinion.
Rigger 17 years and safety inspector 20 years.
If you can't break a string, tie a knot where you want the break and pull, a knot can remove more than 50% of a string rope or tie downs strength.
Or you could just use scissors and save yourself the trouble, lol.
Cheers
Nice knot. Thank's for sharing. Please do the Rotary Table, can't wait.
your overthinking it. Under around tie down to opposite side of vehicle done.
Thats a rolling loop. Its not effective with a heavy bar.
Great video, and sometimes we forget about other types of knots!
Thanks Joe
Sorry lad its been around a bit im a lorry driver and we know it as a barrel hitch, but fear play for sharing as its a good tie down👍
Nice rigging work. Yes please on the rotary table setup and use. And a cross slide rotary table if you have one too. I am interested in cutting a series inside and outside radii in sequence.
Can it be used on a four posts bed, or do I need to modify. Asking for a friend.
Just used this. Load didn't budge a mm. Cheers
Excellent. This does work very well.
Here's my two bits: it's a great knot and I carry stuff in my truck. I use old rope and a truckers hitch but my trips are short and loads not large. So what if this hitch is already invented...Probably most guys don't know about it and if they were curious how to tie down a load better, wouldn't know where to look...I wouldn't. Good on you Joe!
My grandfather showed me this literally 40 years ago as a teenager helping him haul fence posts in his old army truck
Those that are critical that your video skills are a bit under Spielberg level...just can't please them I guess. I personally appreciate the INFO and will absolutely use this knot - perfect for a situation I'm often in. You rock, Joe!!! The superficial crybabies are unbelievable - lol
I’m always up for a good rotary table video. There are not many guys doing videos of that nature. Been doing this since I was 17 and with the advent of cnc machinery being in full swing I never had much come in the shop that was a rotary table job that didn’t get assigned to a cnc mill. Thanks for the videos joe and when I get away from Texarkana for a bit I might have to ease over your way. 👍🏻
Looking at the "what about the loose end" comments ,I now have an insight into the american political situation.
I was a boy scout and later in life a sailor. I have never seen that hitch. It looks great to me.
Joe, you don't need to ask if we want to see another machining video.
We ALWAYS want to see another video. LOL.
That looks like a very useful knot! I will try to remember it next time I need it. And YES! Please do a video on the rotary table!
I'm a frayed not.
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Will definitely try your knot out!,,
And looking forward to all your wisdom on that rotary table.
Learn this same not back in 78 from some Mexican workers... They were from the country side and knew every knot possible!👍
Even though I can secure a load and am even teaching a guy at work some basics, that doesn’t mean I can’t learn new tricks.
I remembered seeing this ages ago but couldn’t remember it exactly. I just gave it a go tying some firewood to my roof racks and it’s better than I thought. There’s no need to add a truckers knot as it gets it real tight.
I personally think its a great way to tie multiple objects.
What ever its called i don't care... its an awesome solution to wandering 2x4s and/ or pipe! Thank you for sharing!!
I expect I will use your knot! Can’t wait for the rotary table videos. Thank you in advance!
Also known as the scaffold hitch
yes! Although his method is different than the 3 wraps I learned for that knot. He doesn't need to come over the end of the object, which is nice.
Nice video Joe. very useful tie down. Its good you shared the idea because some would never figure it out on there own. and some won't figure it out even with the video. Anyway thanks I will be trying it out..
For those who cannot think this through: You'll notice he's using a ratchet strap. Attaching what you see into the video to the other part of the ratchet strap is what will the load shifting to the left.
I have never seen that rigging knot before. I can see it works great just by the path it takes.
Big deal. I can tie knots that you can't untie. I can't either.
It’s much cheaper then using your knife to get it undon :-)
Hey Joe, looking forward to the rotary table vid.
Then again, I pretty much look forward to any vids from you, This Old Tony, AvE, Paul Harrell...
👍I have never ever used a ratchet strap but I want to however they scare me & that’s how I ended up here. This video is fantastic! I appreciate you. Thank you sir 🙏 from all of us daddyless daughters out here. Daddy taught me a lot of stuff but he didn’t get around to teaching me about ratchet straps. RIP daddy. 🙏💝
When it comes to stuff like this, don't buy a $3 ratchet strap. Get one that looks like quality. You can usually tell by the ratchet end of the strap. Some are flimsy sheet metal and others are built for strength. Also be sure to anchor the crank end of the strap to the passenger side of your setup. If it needs to be tightened en route, you won't be standing in traffic doing it.
@@joepie221 - 👍Thank you. 💝
This is VERY helpful! Just hauled a heavy 9x12 rug in my short bed F150. I did this on the front and back tie downs and it didn’t move at all (even at 75mph). Thanks for sharing.
I use this hitch exclusively. I love it.
It a Half Marlin Spike Hitch.
Bundle Knot. Been in use for a while. Unique way of tying it, so I guess you get to name it.
Hi Joe,
Thanks for sharing!
My mum taught me to tie my shoes when I was 3y.o. Since then I've used the same knot for everything, my shoes, my pyjamas, boats, anchors, stuff on the roof of the car. Sometimes it works ,but not always as I'd like .......... my pyjamas still fall down, stuff blows off the roof of the car and the dog often escapes. I now see the virtue in using the right tool for the job at hand.
Thanks again mate!,,
Steve Callachor
straight to the point! thanks!
Actually in Canada that is called a B .C. hitch. I live in eastern Canada, I used to work on a salmon farm. We used to get supplies from British Columbia, and that was the knot that they used.
Thanks for taking the time to share.
What you got there a sailor would call a double backhand hitch.
Dad used to call that a reining half hitch. We use it to tie the horses to hitching posts, mainly on horses who had the habit (or learned) to untie a regular half hitch.
It's still not secure. Am I missing something here?
Yes. read the video description.
Tried this one yesterday, I'll never use another hitch again! Thanks 👍🏻
You forgot to say. Thtats not going any where.
Sure beats the old triple granny knot for securing round things that just want to roll around , especially hyd cylinders , cheers .
But you don’t show how it’s tied to the other side?
Its a ratchet strap. Connect it as usual.
@@joepie221What do you mean "as usual"? Can you show us?
@@joeloomis3411just look up how to use a ratchet strap....
Great hitch knot!
The camera angle was a little off for viewing
But you can still see what you’re doing
Thanks for sharing
Called a choker here in nz
We are definitely interested in seeing rotary table tips!
Nothing beats simple Joe :)
Yes please - rotary tips always good to hear.
thats a solid yes on the turn table
I was just playing around with this knot on my camping chair armrest when I had a discovery.
This knot is a double half hitch with the two ends pulled in their opposite directions.
It could be an easier way to remember it.
After you tie it a few times, its easy to remember.
You rock totally - thx for posting .
I always say that if you had no prior knowledge its existence, and arrived at something that had been done before, you're no less an inventor than the guy taking credit for the earlier version! I wasn't around in the 1600's, and haven't taken any college classes on knot tying, so I'm no expert, but I think your knot kicks ass, and I intend to use it, a bunch! I'm even going to call it the "Pie Bight", in your honor!
Thank You!
Thanks for the comment. I agree about the inventor part. I was fairly proud of the performance of this one and use it a lot.
Awesome. my husband thinks I'm a genius. Thank you.
Our secret.
That's not a knot, it's a lashing.
The best part is, it's a quick knot to make and easy to untie when you get to your destination.
True. As soon as the ratchet anchor side is released, this hitch is very quick to untie.
The whole thing can still still slide around unless you tie the loose end somewhere.
That "loose" end goes to the ratchet portion of the ratchet strap, which then gets attached to a vehicle tie down location. Then cinch the ratchet strap down and voila, it's not gonna go anywhere.
If your using a ratchet strap anyway why not just run a couple loops and tie down or use 2 straps. Am I missing something