Kendrick wasn’t saying Drake ain’t “black enough” he’s calling him a culture vulture, and he only cares about black American culture when it benefits him. He even doubled down on that, calling drakes son a black man in meet the grahams
Yeah I was about to comment the same thing to let him know that this was actually what Kendrick was saying. Notice how Kendrick never says this about J. Cole or Schoolboy Q. I've seen other RUclips reactors say the same thing where they are kinda misinterpreting the lyrics about Kendrick making it light skin vs dark skinned people which is not what Kendrick was really trying to say.
@@kidz919 I think a number of the misinterpretations are on purpose. Drake fans are pushing the misunderstanding to slander Kendrick and some people hear that and think that's what Kendrick meant. Not saying that's the case here of course.
I’m so glad I found this. Its such a clean reaction because you’re missing so much insider info. You skipped the things you thought were simple and self explanatory but in context it’s way worse. “I hate the way that you walk” lines is a reference to DMX’s interview where he’s popping off about Drake. The “think they’re real women,” line is about his preclusions to girls and young women. I hate the way you say ‘brotha’, is a reference to a video Drake said it the worst way possible.
14:10. It is solely a Drake thing. There’s some particular behaviors and it’s not about him being Canadian it’s about him being a vulture. Not being himself. Trying so hard and to fit into “black stereotypes,” for exploitative purposes. That and it just gets under his skin. Pun intended.
It’s not just skin color. Drake wore black face, said that black vernacular was ignorant, and is affiliated with a white nationalist gang; then he gets on his songs and appropriates black culture for money and fame.
I think when Kendrick says he’s not black enough it’s more so in his upbringing. Drake grew up in a white neighborhood with his white Jewish mother in Canada. This upbringing is vastly different from black American projects and neighbor hoods and even different from white American suburbs.
Yea that doesn't make it any better.. I grew up in a predominantly white suburb, who cares.. - and speaking for all Canadians.. we know its vastly different.. doesn't matter...unless its American black rap culture to gate blackness...which is mega weird. Guess saying 'you're not American enough' doesn't "hit as hard".. The saying itself can be nuanced into difference topics of discussion but as it stands by itself its just lame.
@@donmowattOnce again it's not about his blackness it's about Drake not being a part of the culture of Hip Hop like many others who use Hip Hop to get to Pop status and abandoned it when they no longer have any use for it. This war is about the music exec industry rapper Drake vs the rapper that represents the culture of Hip Hop and it's people.
I'm aware of that - Still, I'm saying that the way he went about it is lame regardless of the intended meaning. There are so many other ways to say drake is fake or not a part of hip hop which I could totally get behind as far as being better disses/jabs.
I mean...there's really nothing hidden to get, and it's bold to assume just because I would be born down in the states in some part that's strong in us hiphop culture that I would agree, am I not allowed to think its distasteful regardless? Though... If someone could define 'the culture' I think that's a good spot for me to start probing my curiosity.
I notice a lot of reactions from biracial folks take a certain offense to this song and Not Like Us. He's talking specifically to Drake and his attempt to integrate himself into the culture. Drake grew up in Canada with his mother, who happens to be white/Jewish. And that's fine! But rap about what you know. It would have been great to hear what Toronto/Canadian Hip-hop sounds like instead of him imitating regional US rap artist. This is where Iggy Azalea messed up. She's from Australia, yet she matched and imitated her style and flow to female rappers from the south/ Atlanta. Hip-hop is about being your authentic self and speaking your truth. Again, it would have been great to hear what Australian Hip-hop sounds like, but she missed the opportunity.
I call it as I see it. Many people in "the culture" make it seem like blackness only belongs to black people within the usa. I don't see anyone referring to it as black American hip hop culture, more so just 'the culture' as one general spanning of what it means to be hip hop/rap. If the point of his family 'is fine' why even bring it up as if it matters at all. Why can't people just make music in whatever style they want because that's what they were influenced by. I don't care for Drake at all, I think his music is quite annoying to be honest, but the innate gatekeeping within American hip hop culture is beyond me. I really don't understand this idea of it being great to hear what "Canadian" hip hop sounds like. lmao?? It's just hip hop...it can sound like whatever it wants to sound like. the reason it's offensive is because if I were to put myself in the target avatars shoes, nobody is going to tell me as a musician what I can and can't do, even if I was a hip/hop and or rap artist ..that's insanely laughable. Iggy messed up because she's actually, sincerely, not good as a rapper.. not because of her style, - the style thing is only an added layer that's laughable because she actually can't do it well.. but sure...lets generalize it and say its her flat out her style is the reason she messed up.. You say it yourself "Hip-hop is about being your authentic self and speaking your truth" ..I don't see anything there about sounding a certain way.. ..Imagine me not sounding Canadian enough when I rap? ..?? More so, the 'Toronto' accent is absolute garbage and even we'd prefer nobody imitates it. Artists have no obligation to sound a certain way just because they are from a certain area.
@donmowatt your answer just shows that you don't understand hip hop nor the culture. I just said and broke down to you what it means. It means being your authentic self. It means rapping /talking about what you know. Again, I would have loved for Drake to bring what hip hop sounds like from Toronto. Not imitating it from cherry-picked regional US artists. Eminem is white, and he's well respected in the culture and hip hop. He raps about what he knows. He has his own sound and never said the n-word. No one gives a fck about Drake being biracial. No one said blackness only lies with African Americans. The diaspora is black. We started hip hop, which was born from OUR culture. And thats just facts. It sounds so good that it's now global and blacks across the diaspora and globally can partake. We gatekeep the art form and the culture bc ppl like Drake have perverted the art. Again, using AI to mimic one of the greatest rappers born of the culture is unforgivable. If you were really from the culture, you won't disrespect it like this. You wouldn't say to someone within the culture to say you're rapping like you tryna free the slaves.
Oh I understand it well enough.. and yours amongst others just shows that the culture is pretty interested in gatekeeping - as you so admit further down in your comment. Repeating what you've already typed doesn't make it read any differently. I don't listen to Drake but if the complaint is that Drake isn't rapping about what he knows, or that he doesn't "sound like he's from Toronto/not sounding like Toronto hip hop" then I really don't think there's telling you any otherwise. I'm not sure what 'Toronto' rap is suppose to sound like to you and apparently artists aren't allowed to be influenced by artists from other regions and or cultures. I mean, using your logic, the white rapper M dot R must really aggravate you. English rapper, born on the Isle of Sheppey in Kent, y'know, in big ol' white man England who sings/raps in the Jamaican Patois style. Do you even know what a Kent accent sounds like? Or we just gonna blindly use your logic here and go...y'know what no - he's from Kent, He needs to sound like he's from Kent and he needs to rap about what he knows - Isle of Sheppey Kent stuff!! His song turn red is literally about sex, and he raps about so in the Jamaican Patois style. yea yea..we started hiphop...right...ok. good that's been established. A lot of you also gatekeep it hard, Fact. - Not sure what the rest of that sentence is on about other than just a pride thing. Quick note, USA has a population of over 340 million to Canada's 39 Million - Canadians are influenced by a majority of American Culture - it's not only rap, we're literally influenced by most everything from our much larger population neighbor... Is the dude not allowed to be influenced by stuff he probably grew up listening to? You're not going to convince anyone other than people in the culture that gatekeeping is good. There are shitty examples of music in all genre's - call it what it is, rather than making some lame skin color jab that's suppose to be protecting the culture somehow. Oh Drake 'perverted' the art? ...oh ok...got it. I don't see where this 'again' reference comes up as you didn't say anything about AI prior but I'll address that too - the use of AI to imitate 2pac's voice is probably the lamest thing one could do - and he did it - and he deserves all the flame for it - but it still has nothing to do with his skin color. Nobody gives a fuck about Drakes skin color? Kendrick sure sounds like he does, and it's not hard to imagine there's probably a ton of culture embedded fans that think so as well because it's so easy to generalize the message 'Not like us' when there is already this thing in the USA where some darker people call lighter people 'light skin' - to the level of insult/being separate from the rest. Lastly. I never claimed to be from 'the culture' - not once - not anywhere - I am born Canadian and of Caribbean descent. y'know - Caribbean culture - the one that doesn't gatekeep and is quite welcoming of people from all walks of life - so yea, I would, and will speak about it like so. I don't apologize because I have a different opinion, I am not being disrespectful to the culture, you just don't like my opinion - but alas, you yourself don't represent the entire culture so you can drop the whole disrespect thing "you wouldn't" ....It's not often that people who are confident about the words they are saying, try to unravel the other persons logic by using some hypothetical to try and make their point. ..."you wouldn't say" Lets try to keep it to what actually happened instead of trying to pin what Drake did, into some hypothetical situation that didn't happen, that somehow I have to imagine myself deciding what I would and wouldn't do.. ...and so what if I was rapping like I was trying to free the slaves... I'll absolutely say that if I want to. Quick fact check for you - Caribbeans were slaves too. ...like what is this.. you trying to frame this question as if "only black Americans were slaves" lmao.. Ok...
The “black” thing matters because hip hop/rap is a black cultural movement. Just like every ethnicity has music to represent their culture. That music usually has gatekeepers but we let every other ethnicity in. Drake being at the “top” of rap but actually used pop music to get to the “top” which should’ve put him in another category. It matters because yes Drake is part black but his culture does not align with black culture as he obviously embodies his Jewish/caucasian side outside of rap, yet promotes mediocre, childish, and degenerate rap music when he does rap. He used our culture to benefit himself but never gave back to the black community and utilized our top talents to become something he’s not. It’s not a difficult concept and the outrage is justified
@@donmowatt brother, most people in the world think the best rapper is a white man. Not that he isn’t worthy but it quite literally proves my point. No white man could go reign in Indian music, they wouldn’t let him but you do you
@@jamevolve8380 ill be direct because you wont be..eminem is the best of more than just his generation..shrug, he has nothing to do with this. bit of a strawman arguement playing off what ifs eh...gatekeepers suck. Imagine white people kept me out of metal. ...just stop.
@@donmowatt strawman???? Bro, you are using a strawman (the irony), Not once did I say Eminem was only the goat of his generation brother, so idk why you said that. Two I never said you couldn’t indulge in another music, I said other cultures wouldn’t allow you to be labeled the GOAT of their musical culture. Wasn’t direct because I didn’t say his name??? What are you on about, it doesn’t change my point if I said Eminem was a white man. You said Eminem has nothing to do with this, but he does because he’s deemed the best in a black American culture which was directly my original point. I can tell comprehension ain’t your strong suit which is why this video was deeply rooted in your lack of ability to remove your emotional bias. Do what you want bro, no helping people like you. Good day sir
@@jamevolve8380 You implied a it by saying a white man which could only be eminem. Clearly you're projecting some emotional hurt here by trying to insult my ability to comprehend anything you've said. You just dont like that I dont agree with you and seemingly having a hard time letting go. "Allowing goat status" lmaoooo, ok. Good luck to you and your cultural gate keeping buddy.
Kendrick wasn’t saying Drake ain’t “black enough” he’s calling him a culture vulture, and he only cares about black American culture when it benefits him. He even doubled down on that, calling drakes son a black man in meet the grahams
Yeah I was about to comment the same thing to let him know that this was actually what Kendrick was saying. Notice how Kendrick never says this about J. Cole or Schoolboy Q. I've seen other RUclips reactors say the same thing where they are kinda misinterpreting the lyrics about Kendrick making it light skin vs dark skinned people which is not what Kendrick was really trying to say.
@@kidz919 I think a number of the misinterpretations are on purpose. Drake fans are pushing the misunderstanding to slander Kendrick and some people hear that and think that's what Kendrick meant. Not saying that's the case here of course.
I’m so glad I found this. Its such a clean reaction because you’re missing so much insider info. You skipped the things you thought were simple and self explanatory but in context it’s way worse.
“I hate the way that you walk” lines is a reference to DMX’s interview where he’s popping off about Drake.
The “think they’re real women,” line is about his preclusions to girls and young women.
I hate the way you say ‘brotha’, is a reference to a video Drake said it the worst way possible.
14:10. It is solely a Drake thing. There’s some particular behaviors and it’s not about him being Canadian it’s about him being a vulture. Not being himself. Trying so hard and to fit into “black stereotypes,” for exploitative purposes.
That and it just gets under his skin. Pun intended.
Drake woke a sleeping giant.
Oh come on hes like 5'5" ...🤣
@@donmowatt I’m talking about a celestial one .
@@Rayebae738 don't worry the joke went over him too 🤣
@@donmowattA 5'5 giant and I'm 6'3😅
@@donmowatt😂😂😂😂
It’s not just skin color. Drake wore black face, said that black vernacular was ignorant, and is affiliated with a white nationalist gang; then he gets on his songs and appropriates black culture for money and fame.
Kendrick didn't mean color he meant culture. Drake is of Jewish heritage that cosplayed like he was really from our culture
I think when Kendrick says he’s not black enough it’s more so in his upbringing. Drake grew up in a white neighborhood with his white Jewish mother in Canada. This upbringing is vastly different from black American projects and neighbor hoods and even different from white American suburbs.
Yea that doesn't make it any better.. I grew up in a predominantly white suburb, who cares.. - and speaking for all Canadians.. we know its vastly different.. doesn't matter...unless its American black rap culture to gate blackness...which is mega weird. Guess saying 'you're not American enough' doesn't "hit as hard"..
The saying itself can be nuanced into difference topics of discussion but as it stands by itself its just lame.
@@donmowattOnce again it's not about his blackness it's about Drake not being a part of the culture of Hip Hop like many others who use Hip Hop to get to Pop status and abandoned it when they no longer have any use for it. This war is about the music exec industry rapper Drake vs the rapper that represents the culture of Hip Hop and it's people.
I'm aware of that - Still, I'm saying that the way he went about it is lame regardless of the intended meaning. There are so many other ways to say drake is fake or not a part of hip hop which I could totally get behind as far as being better disses/jabs.
@@donmowatt I get it you are not apart of the culture either so you don't understand and it just sound like a race thing to you.
I mean...there's really nothing hidden to get, and it's bold to assume just because I would be born down in the states in some part that's strong in us hiphop culture that I would agree, am I not allowed to think its distasteful regardless? Though... If someone could define 'the culture' I think that's a good spot for me to start probing my curiosity.
An hour and a half long holyshit😭
Drake is not a real artist that’s why he used AI he doesnt care about the art.
NGL I enjoyed this reaction, it doesn’t even feel like the video is an hour
I notice a lot of reactions from biracial folks take a certain offense to this song and Not Like Us. He's talking specifically to Drake and his attempt to integrate himself into the culture. Drake grew up in Canada with his mother, who happens to be white/Jewish. And that's fine! But rap about what you know. It would have been great to hear what Toronto/Canadian Hip-hop sounds like instead of him imitating regional US rap artist. This is where Iggy Azalea messed up. She's from Australia, yet she matched and imitated her style and flow to female rappers from the south/ Atlanta. Hip-hop is about being your authentic self and speaking your truth. Again, it would have been great to hear what Australian Hip-hop sounds like, but she missed the opportunity.
I call it as I see it. Many people in "the culture" make it seem like blackness only belongs to black people within the usa. I don't see anyone referring to it as black American hip hop culture, more so just 'the culture' as one general spanning of what it means to be hip hop/rap.
If the point of his family 'is fine' why even bring it up as if it matters at all. Why can't people just make music in whatever style they want because that's what they were influenced by. I don't care for Drake at all, I think his music is quite annoying to be honest, but the innate gatekeeping within American hip hop culture is beyond me. I really don't understand this idea of it being great to hear what "Canadian" hip hop sounds like. lmao?? It's just hip hop...it can sound like whatever it wants to sound like. the reason it's offensive is because if I were to put myself in the target avatars shoes, nobody is going to tell me as a musician what I can and can't do, even if I was a hip/hop and or rap artist ..that's insanely laughable.
Iggy messed up because she's actually, sincerely, not good as a rapper.. not because of her style, - the style thing is only an added layer that's laughable because she actually can't do it well.. but sure...lets generalize it and say its her flat out her style is the reason she messed up.. You say it yourself "Hip-hop is about being your authentic self and speaking your truth" ..I don't see anything there about sounding a certain way.. ..Imagine me not sounding Canadian enough when I rap? ..?? More so, the 'Toronto' accent is absolute garbage and even we'd prefer nobody imitates it.
Artists have no obligation to sound a certain way just because they are from a certain area.
@donmowatt your answer just shows that you don't understand hip hop nor the culture. I just said and broke down to you what it means. It means being your authentic self. It means rapping /talking about what you know. Again, I would have loved for Drake to bring what hip hop sounds like from Toronto. Not imitating it from cherry-picked regional US artists. Eminem is white, and he's well respected in the culture and hip hop. He raps about what he knows. He has his own sound and never said the n-word. No one gives a fck about Drake being biracial. No one said blackness only lies with African Americans. The diaspora is black.
We started hip hop, which was born from OUR culture. And thats just facts. It sounds so good that it's now global and blacks across the diaspora and globally can partake.
We gatekeep the art form and the culture bc ppl like Drake have perverted the art. Again, using AI to mimic one of the greatest rappers born of the culture is unforgivable. If you were really from the culture, you won't disrespect it like this. You wouldn't say to someone within the culture to say you're rapping like you tryna free the slaves.
Oh I understand it well enough.. and yours amongst others just shows that the culture is pretty interested in gatekeeping - as you so admit further down in your comment. Repeating what you've already typed doesn't make it read any differently. I don't listen to Drake but if the complaint is that Drake isn't rapping about what he knows, or that he doesn't "sound like he's from Toronto/not sounding like Toronto hip hop" then I really don't think there's telling you any otherwise. I'm not sure what 'Toronto' rap is suppose to sound like to you and apparently artists aren't allowed to be influenced by artists from other regions and or cultures.
I mean, using your logic, the white rapper M dot R must really aggravate you. English rapper, born on the Isle of Sheppey in Kent, y'know, in big ol' white man England who sings/raps in the Jamaican Patois style. Do you even know what a Kent accent sounds like? Or we just gonna blindly use your logic here and go...y'know what no - he's from Kent, He needs to sound like he's from Kent and he needs to rap about what he knows - Isle of Sheppey Kent stuff!! His song turn red is literally about sex, and he raps about so in the Jamaican Patois style.
yea yea..we started hiphop...right...ok. good that's been established. A lot of you also gatekeep it hard, Fact. - Not sure what the rest of that sentence is on about other than just a pride thing.
Quick note, USA has a population of over 340 million to Canada's 39 Million - Canadians are influenced by a majority of American Culture - it's not only rap, we're literally influenced by most everything from our much larger population neighbor... Is the dude not allowed to be influenced by stuff he probably grew up listening to?
You're not going to convince anyone other than people in the culture that gatekeeping is good. There are shitty examples of music in all genre's - call it what it is, rather than making some lame skin color jab that's suppose to be protecting the culture somehow.
Oh Drake 'perverted' the art? ...oh ok...got it. I don't see where this 'again' reference comes up as you didn't say anything about AI prior but I'll address that too - the use of AI to imitate 2pac's voice is probably the lamest thing one could do - and he did it - and he deserves all the flame for it - but it still has nothing to do with his skin color. Nobody gives a fuck about Drakes skin color? Kendrick sure sounds like he does, and it's not hard to imagine there's probably a ton of culture embedded fans that think so as well because it's so easy to generalize the message 'Not like us' when there is already this thing in the USA where some darker people call lighter people 'light skin' - to the level of insult/being separate from the rest.
Lastly. I never claimed to be from 'the culture' - not once - not anywhere - I am born Canadian and of Caribbean descent. y'know - Caribbean culture - the one that doesn't gatekeep and is quite welcoming of people from all walks of life - so yea, I would, and will speak about it like so. I don't apologize because I have a different opinion, I am not being disrespectful to the culture, you just don't like my opinion - but alas, you yourself don't represent the entire culture so you can drop the whole disrespect thing
"you wouldn't" ....It's not often that people who are confident about the words they are saying, try to unravel the other persons logic by using some hypothetical to try and make their point. ..."you wouldn't say"
Lets try to keep it to what actually happened instead of trying to pin what Drake did, into some hypothetical situation that didn't happen, that somehow I have to imagine myself deciding what I would and wouldn't do..
...and so what if I was rapping like I was trying to free the slaves... I'll absolutely say that if I want to. Quick fact check for you - Caribbeans were slaves too. ...like what is this.. you trying to frame this question as if "only black Americans were slaves"
lmao.. Ok...
@@heidinicole1253actually eminem has said the n word multiple times.
You made a whole movie reacting to this track, love that 🙌 subbed
The “black” thing matters because hip hop/rap is a black cultural movement. Just like every ethnicity has music to represent their culture. That music usually has gatekeepers but we let every other ethnicity in. Drake being at the “top” of rap but actually used pop music to get to the “top” which should’ve put him in another category. It matters because yes Drake is part black but his culture does not align with black culture as he obviously embodies his Jewish/caucasian side outside of rap, yet promotes mediocre, childish, and degenerate rap music when he does rap. He used our culture to benefit himself but never gave back to the black community and utilized our top talents to become something he’s not. It’s not a difficult concept and the outrage is justified
You lost me at having gatekeepers/letting people in..lmao. You do you. My opinion is unchanged.
@@donmowatt brother, most people in the world think the best rapper is a white man. Not that he isn’t worthy but it quite literally proves my point. No white man could go reign in Indian music, they wouldn’t let him but you do you
@@jamevolve8380 ill be direct because you wont be..eminem is the best of more than just his generation..shrug, he has nothing to do with this. bit of a strawman arguement playing off what ifs eh...gatekeepers suck. Imagine white people kept me out of metal. ...just stop.
@@donmowatt strawman???? Bro, you are using a strawman (the irony), Not once did I say Eminem was only the goat of his generation brother, so idk why you said that. Two I never said you couldn’t indulge in another music, I said other cultures wouldn’t allow you to be labeled the GOAT of their musical culture. Wasn’t direct because I didn’t say his name??? What are you on about, it doesn’t change my point if I said Eminem was a white man. You said Eminem has nothing to do with this, but he does because he’s deemed the best in a black American culture which was directly my original point. I can tell comprehension ain’t your strong suit which is why this video was deeply rooted in your lack of ability to remove your emotional bias. Do what you want bro, no helping people like you. Good day sir
@@jamevolve8380 You implied a it by saying a white man which could only be eminem. Clearly you're projecting some emotional hurt here by trying to insult my ability to comprehend anything you've said. You just dont like that I dont agree with you and seemingly having a hard time letting go. "Allowing goat status" lmaoooo, ok. Good luck to you and your cultural gate keeping buddy.
It’s cultural not racial.
if you were wondering why he had that addlib at the start a shoobie is slag for a tourist.
I really think you would like Tierra Wack
Never heard but I'll try to remember to check them out!!