Social Media Forced To Warn Its Users? (We Must Protect The Kids!)
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- The U.S. Surgeon General wants to require social media to have a health warning, similar to the warning that is found on tobacco products. It's clear that social media causes a number of mental health issues--especially in children!
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Cool, after the cookie warning, now I have to click again for a "bad for children" warning. At some point we gonna have to click though two pages of forms before accessing any site.
I'm thinking of The Simpsons Movie clip where Homer runs down a number of signs as he's going to dump his "pig crap" silo into the lake before running down Moleman holding a "You Suck" sign, and ironically that's probably how the internet is gonna unfold. "Thanks" enshittificion. lol
why would a predator warn it's prey????
They won't unless required to by law
So, we have a clear law showing that they violated. That’s the point to rules and regulations.
Tobacco companies had to because of laws
Instead of buying a smartphone for your kids, buy them a basic phone and old thinkpad with Linux.
Happy to be a teenager without social media.
@slowmutant I'm talking about TikTok, Instagram, Facebook. I don't use any of the social media feature RUclips provides. I'm on RUclips for long-form videos.
@@sprinklednights it is still social media though. It is still susceptible to the same crap as Facebook and tiktok . . . it isn't quite as bad in some ways but, in others it is far worse. The idea that it is somehow "more legitimate" itself is a huge problem. It isn't.
@@skytale35 I acknowledge that, and I'm not gonna advocate for RUclips either way. I think RUclips does have more valuable content though, it just depends on who you subscribe to and whether you only watch the content from the home page of RUclips or not. I mean, a lot of my Linux knowledge comes from watching RUclips videos.
@@balsalmalberto8086 Yes, I'm a teenager. I would not like to reveal my age.
@@sprinklednights Deciding who you friend or subscribe to is an argument you can make for literally any social media platform though. I admit, its simpler on youtube to keep the garbage out . . . i am getting so pissed off by the "slop" (offical term being used by meta) that I have pretty much walked.
DT:You should be spending time outside
Also DT:*uses arch*
Personal take, it is now important to have basic knowledge of IT administration as a parent. Home internet nowadays needs to be controlled in the same manner done in corporations. Kids do not need 24/7 access to the internet let alone social media.
Based on the title I was going into this thinking you were going to go entirely the other way with this, but I think this is a great and nuanced take on the issue!
You start with "by now I think we all know the dangers of social media", and that might be true with this audience - but definitely isn't true in the broader population. We need this information out there!
We need to change the way we interact socially and rebuild communities. I and most other young people i know would greatly prefer meeting people in person but it always feels tedious to near impossible to even find peers in person. The primary reason young people use technology and social media so much is because there are very few alternatives in most places
Almost all places and ways people would meet in the past have been either shut down or made inaccessible for one reason or another. And most young people dont even get to develop actual social skills because those who raised us would actively inhibit that which makes it harder.
Youth can interact with each other at educational institutions. In such place you're literally surrounded by a large number of people with at least some common interests. There is also a wide range of different cultural venues, houses of culture and interest clubs, at least in my country.
The way we behave online should be held as accountable as in face-to-face discussions.
If I have kids someday, their screen time will be monitored and limited, they will have a phone that only does calls and texts til they're 16, and I will do my best to give them no digital foot print.
Can confirm that social media destroyed me, though I really wish this was said much sooner like around 15 years ago.
First Like And Comment!. Agreed. As a 16 years old kid. I spend time on Social Media learning Linux.
ok "lonewolfgamer"
@@occultsupport The disclaimer is the name itself
I am a teenager and I used to stay hours on the phone but in the last 5 months I have a detox and I use my phone just minutes
i totally agree with you, there should be health warnings especially for short vids apps, also imagine that amount of time if used to learn some skills instead
Social media isn't even social anymore, it's just hypnotical and in many ways predatory. That mindfulness book called 30 Days Without Social Media by Harper Daniels helped me out.
what I dislike about the whole deal is that there's never any pressure to change the status quo with other competition. It's been captured by too many market factors and now they want that regulation to guarantee there's never anyone else.
But who am I kidding. Social media was always paid for by investors, not users.
I hate social media, mostly use it as a search engine because of the toxicity.
RUclips is social media.
"Mother, tell your children not to walk my way."
RUclips saw fit to put an ad for Microsoft Edge under this video. Ha. At least it wasn't a Facebook ad
It makes people stupid. Good for politicians that lie. And we already know what that leads to, as it have in the past...
Hey, DT! I'm only 13 yrs old but I completely agree! Social media ruins everything genuine in life and promotes unrealistic standards that affect BILLIONS everyday! And the worst part is its affecting young kids such as myself. We don't get to spend any time with one another except in places like school where phones are thankfully still banned during class hours. Don't get me wrong, I still use and am on various social media platforms, but I don't like or support what these social media platforms are doing to less educated people on this matter in any way.
i hope you use arch btw (gotta indoctrinate them young)
@slowmutantAs someone who grew up in the age of social media, and who had it as a teen it kind of is mandated if you want a social life. As most people will exclude you if you don't have it. Now sure these days I care a lot less, and most of my friends are other Linux users, but I think we adults can easily forget what it was like socially to be a teen, and how much your friends do matter during that time of life. And man it sure is painful how many friends you lose when you leave social media behind.
@slowmutant when did he say that? Also, depending on what you consider as social media kids are kinda being forced onto it. What about a group chat with family? If you want friends you need to add them on something. People get so surprised when I tell them I have no instagram or snapchat.
The Surgeon General's impression of kids is that if they're presented with a warning saying "this is not healthy for you", they will click away? Someone needs a reality check :P
Yea, most people just completely ignores "privacy policy", so they will also ignore that
Forcing companies to warn people might not be the way to go. I'm worried more about the families, parents that do not put limits on their children. Some idiot said that if he doesn't give his teenage son a phone, the kid will be bullied. Part of the job of parents is to make their children develop a thick skin.
Absolutely agree!
I wonder if RUclips and Reddit count, for example, there are comments and user-generated content, so it should count. But this would heavily skew the numbers against sites like Twitter or Facebook, which I can't imagine anyone spending more than a few minutes a day on - in part because these sites are so horribly optimised it is impossible to go more than 100 posts deep before it becomes unusable.
Everyone has their own reality evaluation mechanism located in that person's own brain. In my reality, the Surgeon General's warning, right on cigarette packs, contributed 0% to reducing smoking. Doing things you are not supposed to do is an attraction to teenagers. Danger is itself the attraction.
When I was a kid (born 1946), personal testimonials from adults (like your parents) against smoking were everywhere and constant. Even so, being an adult was an ultimate attraction at the time, so if adults smoked, smoking was one ultimate attraction. By now, that has gone through an inversion. So Bob Dylan would sing in the late 60's, " I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now." Rejecting anything adult-like was transformed into an attraction. Smoking, responsibility, self-reliance, neatness, thinking, etc. The smoking cycle, generation to generation, was broken by adults striving to be as juvenile as they can. Kids now strive to be adults by becoming more juvenile.than the adults. This takes more than a Surgeon General's warning to fix. Adults have to become the adults.
You can do it. You don't have to go through the Surgeon General.
(P.S. DT is one of the high points on RUclips.)
you're right, even if you consume content that is really positive it's still not good if you spend a lot of time in this platforms.
6:07 Thats time I could have wasted learning Haskell !
3 hours ?
I know quite a few people who spend 5-6-7 hours a day watching Facebook reels (Because Tiktok is banned in India)...
he realized all their recruits were idiots
Absolutely without a doubt. Especially things like tiktok where ya have the wrong individuals who target the young, those even under 10, with their nonsense tryin to tell them and teach them stuff theynare just too young to even know about.
Me, personally I am not a fan of social media or the internet in general for that matter. How many people can actually spend a week offline without missing it?
as a teenager, i think a bigger issue isn’t the social media causing the issues, but people who already have severe mental health issues are likely to spend excessive time on social media and become even worse off because of the effects of them, but there’s a MUCH bigger problem than just the social media sites, they’re just something that’s easily identifiable as an issue
I hate social media but I am sort of forced to use it. There are a few local groups that I am a part of relating to my hobbies and Facebook groups is how we communicate with each other.
Hello DT: I only use Facebook to keep in touch with family. I am also on LinkedIn. But mostly I am very "old school" when it comes to communicating. Like all technology, it can be used for good or indeed for evil. Thanks for the video.
I don't really blame social media, I blame the parents. It's giving them the smartphone, smart tablet at a young age. If they need a phone, give them a Flip phone. Make phone calls, that's it.
I think if they really want to use location features for their child they can use services like Google family link or Microsoft family safety to track their child's usage and control over every app they use. I know it's not very privacy oriented and most safe but it is also an option that very few people try.
This is such a stupid way of looking at things.
The job of a government is to protect its citizens from threats both foreign and domestic and to enforce order for peaceful living. Parents should have the freedom to know that they don't need to monitor every little thing their children are doing ("helicopter parenting") because they do not need to worry that some scum-sucking capitalist will attempt to ruin their children's lives to buy himself a new yacht.
It also difficult to give an individual child a flip phone and leave it at that, since all of his peers will have smartphones, and your kid will become a social pariah. This needs to be done collectively.
I get feeling lots You people complain about helicopter parenting. No matter how much I try deleting Samsung internet off the phone its imposable by design, finding money as to not give hammy downs which has it impossible. Even flip phones have internet apps. The Internet exists on these things no matter how hard I try to block it.
spying will promote untrust in a relationship
kids should learn how to trust their parrents, come and ask if they face smt strange. even kids have the right for privacy
better to go with a basic phone, really
@@sila_v_malenkih_shagah293 🤔 No, I think you mean teens or at the youngest preteens. How would children know something is strange? Talking? Parents would have to go down a laundry list of what their kids did today, no different than being invasive in their lives. Sure don't be mean or rude but now that just basic stuff.
Social media is a great place to see everything better than yourself in life. Wanna get a glimpse of the whole world enjoying life clicking selfies with duck faces and happy places, relationships and marriages and cruise and tours, while i observe everything from my ubuntu linux desktop in a 10 year old laptop. Not fun.
i hope this idea gets through
So sick of nanny state politics.
Okay Boomer.
Lmao but no seriously, as someone who grew up with social media in my hands, I've been preaching it's dangers on the psyche for a long time. Having been a very self aware person that noticed the decline in myself, and noticed it was directly related to my social media use.
It's kinda insane, but youtube is the only one that doesn't negatively start impacting me, and I believe it is because I have a very firm control over what I want to see, where other social media just pushes what is popular or fits their agenda.
Ironically, it’s because Ytube has such authoritarian grip with the algorithm
algorithms can be easily broken if you disable history. it won't recommend you anything in this case
@@sila_v_malenkih_shagah293 Thinking 🤔yes thinking 🤔something off?
My “Your watch history is off” and I still get stuff recommended to me?
🤔 “I'm on smartlab. You can contact him personally there.” 🤔
4:20 My first phones weren’t smartphones or phones I’d use the internet with. I got my first iPhone when I started A-levels.
These days, everything is “smart” even if it doesn’t need to be, so I imagine that it’s more awkward to use standard phones.
Dude we now have smart blinds.
@@TheSuperTiger2011 I had to fact check that. Wow! I thought that was just a meme.
@@user-S853 Wish it was.
Amen
If you spend one hour a day or more you need to learn how to go outside without electronics and do physical activity.
something needs to be done but i also don't think a warning is going to do much. the same kind of harm from social media could probably happen from excessive use of a lot of various other things too that take away from conversation (i'm guilty of excessive social media). i think some of it should be the parents resposiblity. growing up my parents would tell us to go outside and thats how they dealt with things like too much tv or video games. maybe it should be on the parents to just take the phones and have their kids go outside.
everybody under 18 need to be denied pocket computers and social media account.
social media should probably be destroyed but at this point i doubt it's possible. Honestly in favor for hard verification of age and no one under 18/21 should be able to use it. Tied to some kind of proof.
I really hoped Elon would buy twitter and shut it down but alas, here we are.
This is why we need an Internet id
We shouldn’t but that the problem isn’t we now stuck with “we need”
@@JorgeLopez-qj8pu We need so we should
shadow waste a lot of hours at night watching you distrotube
5:57 or installing gentoo
6:00 what about 3 hours a day of editing config files?
Especially samba configuration to make it work.
me patching dwm:
Depending on what goal you achieve, this is a million times better than social media.
I think it's also a good way of learning about computers
@slowmutant I personally use vim but Im still learning (I started two days ago). Ik basic "tips and tricks" like visual mode, hjkl, relative line numbers, / and ?, w, % etc.
DT is wise. he is 100% right.
I don't think that people realize "now" the danger of social media. It's in my opinion more like that social media has changed vastly in the past years.
Seriously, why stop at kids? Psychologically targetted algorithmic engagement is unhelathy for everyone. Be it you are 13, 15, 20, 30, 40 or whatever, can you fight 1000s of engineers and sceintists trying to capture your attention? I guess not. This ruling should be for all.
Absolutely, Yes, thank you.👍
How about parents start parenting and protecting their kids? Too simple.
How about you stop parenting other people’s kids. Too simple mined see hypocrisy.
RUclips is a part of social media
its different compared to twitter or Instagram,etc
@@Ralphunreal no, it isn't
@@1shARyn3 yes, it is
@@50-50_Grind social media by definition is a place users can create and share content with other users who can react to it and create their own content. RUclips is just as much social media as facebook or tiktok or whatever.
You do realize that by definition . . . and execution, that RUclips IS social media. . . right? User created content and the ability to reply to it and interact with others that are replying to it. You even have the ability to rate the content. RUclips meets all the criteria.
Warning labels weren't the reason people stopped smoking btw. As an ex smoker I can tell you without a doubt it was a punch line more than anything. We stopped smoking because of 2 things. Cost . . . and it makes you a social pariah. All the rules make sense but when you put them all together you could only smoke in your apartment at night with the windows closed while hiding under your sheets lol. The warnings were there for a long time before the exodus took place. I am glad I quit, but I always knew it was bad for me, but since I liked it I was willing to take the risk . . . for myself . . .
A warning is fine, a reminder that social media (including youtube) is addictive. A warning that its easy to let opinion replace evidence as facts in your life if you surround yourself with the content enforced by the algorithms would be good too. Just don't expect it to change anything.
and most former smokers went the vape route. and smoking only went down due to cost due to "the state" taxing the hell out of it. (but they never touch booze or big pharma which is very destructive) now "the state" is going after the vape market to try and make back the lost rev due to much fewer smoking.
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Although social media agreements state that you have to be at least 13 years old, Dr. Murthy must be aware that persons under the age of 18 are legally unable to enter into contractual agreements!
The day someone can reach through the screen & actually slap you is the day you need a warning on social media.
The problem should be on the shoulders of their parents. They should be in charge of their children. Some warnings will make many kids curious to see what they should not view. Now, some warnings may help. Most of us are not perverts.
well its easy to say that. sadly "the state" has destroyed that via things like welfare payments, destruction of the monetary system and destruction of local economies. so if you manage to have a mom/dad that is together they can't parent when they both have to work 4 jobs 6/7 days a week just to "make it"
Yes, social media can be dangerous for teens and tweens, but that's a reason why parents need to be parents and regulate their own kids' computer exposure rather than bothering with unnecessary rules like this. Quite frankly, and with no offense intended to DT, I think this proposed rule is really dumb and unhelpful.
How, everything online purpose built with making them as additive as possible in mind. The only solution is regulation, unless you want “we investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong”. Don’t get me wrong, these laws are about protecting megaCorp.
@@JorgeLopez-qj8pu Agreed, but again: this is why parents need to parent their children. Not only are warning labels a do-nothing solution but they won't work. It's going to do about as much good as warning labels on cigarettes do for committed smokers.
@@ringo8410 “committed smokers” sure, but regulating it, did help in stopping the promotion of it. Flintstones and cool Moose promoted these things to kids until laws were made stopping them. The government should be doing more than just putting warning labels.
“this is why parents need to parent their children” be honest, so many people Endsley complain about big brother and helicopter parents checking every little thing they do. In what way are parents supposed to be informed when companies can keep running misinformation campaigns about everything. Hello, global warming.
@@JorgeLopez-qj8pu No, you're correct that parents need to be informed, and it's not always their fault that they're not. I'm just skeptical that this warning label is going to actually do much good. Criminalizing (or at least saying that something is dangerous) can make it more appealing.
Given a lot of recent events, too, I worry that this is another crack at destroying what's left of the free and open internet. But that's more political than I really wanted to get in DT's comments so I'll leave it at that.
Social media is fine, it's just bad parenting as far as kids go...
Now do a rant about alcohol, which does the exact same thing that you're renting about and. Do a rant about cigarettes which does the exact same thing that you're talking about and drugs which does the exact same thing you were talking about.
All it boils down to personal responsibility as far as 18 and up.
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