Yup. Even a penetration can be at least lessened by armor and turn what would otherwise be an almost immediately fatal wound into a wound that won't put you down on the ground or at least a treatable wound and you will survive upon receiving help.
@@mekingtiger9095 the only reason the knife stopped is because the dummy torso was solid... the vest would offer no protection on flesh.... i have a vest and did my own testing using a watermelon. knife when in like a hot knife through butter
I was pleasantly surprised by how well it handled those stabs. Definitely going to hurt and will bleed a little but hopefully that gives someone enough time to get their gun out and end the threat, or escape the situation. Stay safe everybody!
If I am buying armor I am buying a two rifle plates and two soft pistol plates, put the soft pistol plates behind the rifle plates to act as a secondary catch method and absorb any backface deformation.
@@aaronbates4848 It is thick as all get go depending on what plates you go with, but if you use Thing like the Hyperlight line as the 3A backer and the Colossus Beyond RF3 Level IV+ Adapt Armor makes and you have something that can take a 50BMG M33 ball round: will you feel like a human tank changing forward? Yes, but you will feel like a human tank charging forward so expressive is needed in this setup. If you have allies expect to always be the door breacher and first one in as well.
Fun fact, there are some plates that only function as intended when worn over soft armor. They are called ICW or "In Conjunction With" plates. The US military uses armor like this and Russian special forces used to use armor like this.
I think that it would protect enough against stabbing, especially when you consider you’d also be wearing clothes over it. Doesn’t seem like it would go deep enough to hit any major organs and on top of that many people don’t keep their knives that sharp.
Great video. I'm researching different types of body armor, and I've eye balling Safe Life. I do like this vest due to its concealment component. I appreciate your video. Thank you.
Moral of the story don't be cheap buying armor to save your life. That's what I always tell people that wanna go spend 2g on a nice rifle then 200 on armor
For the broke boys looking to fill a similar niche look around for surplus German SK1 vests. should be around 150-175 bucks if you can find them. Mine measured at .27' vs the Safelite at .19' thicker than the Safelite but still fairly thin. the SK1 standard includes 3 rounds of 9mil at 5 meters and another 3 rounds of 9mil at contact which I think is a relevant test for a concealable vest. From the anecdotal backyard tests I have seen it will *technically* stop .44 magnum but fail at backface deformation so there is a tradeoff. up to you to determine if getting vibe checked by .44 magnum is a relevant threat or not. Some also have dedicated anti-stab inserts if that's a concern although they about double the overall thickness of the vest. *Insert muh just as good cope here*
The issue with such a thin armor is even if it stops the round, a hit by one of the more powerful rounds near the heart will cause more localized bruising and could cause heart arrhythmia. If the person has lighter bone structure and lower volume pectoral muscles, there may not be enough mass to mitigate the direct contusion experienced by the heart and may cause it to stop.
@@lancelot365e That is a good point. However, the difference between a harder and less flexible armor and these new stronger but more flexible elastic armors is that the final deformation (dent) is likely not going to represent maximum deformation. Don't know if they have accounted for that difference in the 3a testing criteria.
The arrhythmia thing you speak of is pretty rare. Most people refer to the cardiac arrest case of Damar Hamlin due to commotio cordis. What happens is called an R on T phenomenon. The force of impact does actually create some form of “joules” similar to defibrillation. The electrical conduction in the heart goes through a pattern of PQRST waves. The force would have to land perfectly on the T wave for this phenomenon to occur. (I’m a paramedic and have had some long discussions about this phenomenon).
Blue Jean is starting to be my favorite guntuber guy. His videos leave out all that trying to be edgy meme humor, or "based" garbage some of the other guys are doing. Good work keeping it clean.
Every one of these videos I have watched so far have made the apples to oranges comparison of this vs a plate carrier. What about a comparison between this and other soft panels in a concealable carrier from other brands? I understand budget restraints, but wouldn't it be a more informative and useful comparison? I dont know that any IIIa panels are totally stab proof, but there are NIJ certified panels, slightly thicker than these, that will still conceal well. everyone should keep in mind that there is only one piece of armor from Safe Life Defense that is NIJ certified, and that is their regular IIIa panels. Also, almost all Safe Life armor is more expansive than competitors, and they don't even have NIJ certifications.
I wish I had just gotten a plate carrier. I do have the Safeline L3+ with a plate for Rifle rounds. But is it true that kevlar expires? I hear different things like that it just depends and also that is a common marketing strategy to get people to consume consume consume... lmk what you think.👍🏻🤙🏼
Kevlar does not expire, at least not as quickly as people say it does. There was a test conducted in 2005 using Vietnam-era flak vests, and the vests worked just as intended 40+ years later.
They give an expiry date as a linit to their liability for insurance purposes. No insurance company would touch them if it they could be liable indefinitely. It's not a "marketing" strategy it's an insurance issue
I feel like Safelife defense products do what they promise, and while I do think that their armor will stop the calibers it says it will, you have to outweigh the injury that will inevitably occur even if the vest stops the bullet. Its definitely a double edged sword fs. Either way, applause to Safelife defense for making revolutionary armor, and its 100% better than nothing.
Crazy it stops bullets but won't stop knives. I dont own soft armor. I only run level 4 ceramics. Cause I think if u got hit with a pistol round wearing that soft thin body armor. You wouldn't beable breathe for a long time. Then the bad guy could just walk up and finish u off lolz. But that's just my oppinion and mindset.
Most soft armor won't stop bladed weapons, however there are many instances of police officers and soldiers being shot in their armor and only being able to tell or even feel the impact way after the fact when their adrenaline runs out
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Before watching the video: Safeline doesn't have too much of my trust because the FRAS armor isn't all that great. After watching the video: That's fairly impressive for soft armor.
i still wouldnt use the hyperline conceal xD i got the 3a multi threat coming in which costs less and its still conceable on top of being rifle plate capable
Crazy how I was gonna buy this for $1,000 and now I know it’s not stab proof! Nope not doing it. I work with knifes are involve and I’m not paying $1,000 for something that won’t protect me
It always KILLS me how people talk 5HIT about this armor but there is NO armor out there that is as LIGHT, THIN, MULTIPLE SHOT protection and down right COMFORTABLE than SAFELIFE! YES! I HAVE THEM! I HAVE THE HYPER, FRAS, and H2. I also have my SHELLBACK and I still own my 2009 chest rig with AR500 plates! NOTHING COMPARES TO THE COMFORT of SafeLife! NOTHING! And the videos keep proving that they back up the PROTECTION SIDE OF THEIR ARMOR! i DONT NEED TO SPEAK ON THAT FOR THEM.
New subscriber via Administrative Results. I had to watch this one first because I saw the Skrama and got wicked curious. Cool video. Heading over to IG for a sub, as well.
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Still better than to be stabbed without any armor.
Agreed
Yup. Even a penetration can be at least lessened by armor and turn what would otherwise be an almost immediately fatal wound into a wound that won't put you down on the ground or at least a treatable wound and you will survive upon receiving help.
Approximately how deep were those stab wounds? They seemed superficial thanks to the vest
@@mekingtiger9095 the only reason the knife stopped is because the dummy torso was solid... the vest would offer no protection on flesh.... i have a vest and did my own testing using a watermelon. knife when in like a hot knife through butter
I was pleasantly surprised by how well it handled those stabs. Definitely going to hurt and will bleed a little but hopefully that gives someone enough time to get their gun out and end the threat, or escape the situation. Stay safe everybody!
If I am buying armor I am buying a two rifle plates and two soft pistol plates, put the soft pistol plates behind the rifle plates to act as a secondary catch method and absorb any backface deformation.
That's an interesting possibility. I'd like to see a test done like this. It'd be good to know how well it works. 🤔
@@aaronbates4848 It is thick as all get go depending on what plates you go with, but if you use Thing like the Hyperlight line as the 3A backer and the Colossus Beyond RF3 Level IV+ Adapt Armor makes and you have something that can take a 50BMG M33 ball round: will you feel like a human tank changing forward? Yes, but you will feel like a human tank charging forward so expressive is needed in this setup. If you have allies expect to always be the door breacher and first one in as well.
Fun fact, there are some plates that only function as intended when worn over soft armor. They are called ICW or "In Conjunction With" plates. The US military uses armor like this and Russian special forces used to use armor like this.
@@stahlhelmturtle9822 we all know how well the Russians did
@@Dev05-fr5np elaborate.
I think that it would protect enough against stabbing, especially when you consider you’d also be wearing clothes over it. Doesn’t seem like it would go deep enough to hit any major organs and on top of that many people don’t keep their knives that sharp.
Thanks! I had considered this particularly for stab / slash protection. I'll probably just go with the thicker version as you suggested.
Great video. I'm researching different types of body armor, and I've eye balling Safe Life. I do like this vest due to its concealment component. I appreciate your video. Thank you.
Moral of the story chop first or be chopped
Moral of the story don't be cheap buying armor to save your life. That's what I always tell people that wanna go spend 2g on a nice rifle then 200 on armor
Crazy that the 9mm was more dynamic that the short & weak....bump for rockin the hi-po ✊🏻
For the broke boys looking to fill a similar niche look around for surplus German SK1 vests. should be around 150-175 bucks if you can find them. Mine measured at .27' vs the Safelite at .19' thicker than the Safelite but still fairly thin. the SK1 standard includes 3 rounds of 9mil at 5 meters and another 3 rounds of 9mil at contact which I think is a relevant test for a concealable vest. From the anecdotal backyard tests I have seen it will *technically* stop .44 magnum but fail at backface deformation so there is a tradeoff. up to you to determine if getting vibe checked by .44 magnum is a relevant threat or not. Some also have dedicated anti-stab inserts if that's a concern although they about double the overall thickness of the vest.
*Insert muh just as good cope here*
Stab proof layers are typically made from metal foil (ideally titanium) Why does it make it double the thickness?
The issue with such a thin armor is even if it stops the round, a hit by one of the more powerful rounds near the heart will cause more localized bruising and could cause heart arrhythmia. If the person has lighter bone structure and lower volume pectoral muscles, there may not be enough mass to mitigate the direct contusion experienced by the heart and may cause it to stop.
If it says 3a that means it passed without substantial dents in the armor that they say could case damage
@@lancelot365e That is a good point. However, the difference between a harder and less flexible armor and these new stronger but more flexible elastic armors is that the final deformation (dent) is likely not going to represent maximum deformation. Don't know if they have accounted for that difference in the 3a testing criteria.
The arrhythmia thing you speak of is pretty rare. Most people refer to the cardiac arrest case of Damar Hamlin due to commotio cordis. What happens is called an R on T phenomenon. The force of impact does actually create some form of “joules” similar to defibrillation.
The electrical conduction in the heart goes through a pattern of PQRST waves. The force would have to land perfectly on the T wave for this phenomenon to occur.
(I’m a paramedic and have had some long discussions about this phenomenon).
Blue Jean is starting to be my favorite guntuber guy. His videos leave out all that trying to be edgy meme humor, or "based" garbage some of the other guys are doing. Good work keeping it clean.
IDK, maybe it's balance both lightweight & defenses 🤔
Every one of these videos I have watched so far have made the apples to oranges comparison of this vs a plate carrier. What about a comparison between this and other soft panels in a concealable carrier from other brands? I understand budget restraints, but wouldn't it be a more informative and useful comparison? I dont know that any IIIa panels are totally stab proof, but there are NIJ certified panels, slightly thicker than these, that will still conceal well. everyone should keep in mind that there is only one piece of armor from Safe Life Defense that is NIJ certified, and that is their regular IIIa panels. Also, almost all Safe Life armor is more expansive than competitors, and they don't even have NIJ certifications.
just ordered mine.On another channel all their shots left BIG markings in the back?not sure why there is difference.?
Looked like Wolverine took a few swipes at it. Right on! 👍🏾
id be happy to come out with just those papercuts after all that 😂
would have loved to see some g9 +p.
Level 3 plus something rigid for melee protection, maybe even a rifle plate close fitting enough to hide under a jean jacket?
“No bulge at all”
Me too vest, me too😢
Lmao!
For a future video maybe put the concealable armor up against the oh so famous Crye LVS
We need this!!
I wish I had just gotten a plate carrier. I do have the Safeline L3+ with a plate for Rifle rounds. But is it true that kevlar expires? I hear different things like that it just depends and also that is a common marketing strategy to get people to consume consume consume... lmk what you think.👍🏻🤙🏼
Kevlar does not expire, at least not as quickly as people say it does. There was a test conducted in 2005 using Vietnam-era flak vests, and the vests worked just as intended 40+ years later.
@@PHIllip324 Ty 🤙🏼
Most of the time, the "expiration date" is typically just when the warranty expires
@@stahlhelmturtle9822 Well that's convenient for seller's... lol thanks!
They give an expiry date as a linit to their liability for insurance purposes. No insurance company would touch them if it they could be liable indefinitely.
It's not a "marketing" strategy it's an insurance issue
I feel like Safelife defense products do what they promise, and while I do think that their armor will stop the calibers it says it will, you have to outweigh the injury that will inevitably occur even if the vest stops the bullet. Its definitely a double edged sword fs. Either way, applause to Safelife defense for making revolutionary armor, and its 100% better than nothing.
I would say their fras system with a motorcycle vest is about the best you'll get as far as not getting ribs broken
Fully agree though I think its worth that trade off
Crazy it stops bullets but won't stop knives. I dont own soft armor. I only run level 4 ceramics. Cause I think if u got hit with a pistol round wearing that soft thin body armor. You wouldn't beable breathe for a long time. Then the bad guy could just walk up and finish u off lolz. But that's just my oppinion and mindset.
Most soft armor won't stop bladed weapons, however there are many instances of police officers and soldiers being shot in their armor and only being able to tell or even feel the impact way after the fact when their adrenaline runs out
Get some ammo from Badlands Munitions Co.
Use code BLUEJEAN for a discount there. Helps out the channel!
badlandsmunitionsco.com
Tekto Knives (switchblade I used to stab the vest)
bit.ly/3sCRs97
Also go check out Infinity Targets!
Badass self healing targets that make cardboard obsolete!
Use code: BlueJean15 for a 15% Discount
alnk.to/gKOr4po
I live very close to those guys they are nice
Бро спасибо тебе за твой труд.
Before watching the video: Safeline doesn't have too much of my trust because the FRAS armor isn't all that great.
After watching the video: That's fairly impressive for soft armor.
What's your beef with fras exactly?
So thin it's like wearing nothing at all...
Ned flanders 😂
What about FRAS it is consealable rifle armor
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No, It’s not the thinnest 3A on the market. Hardwire is, and is lighter 🙄 oh and also stops knives
Thinner than hyperline? Doubt it
i still wouldnt use the hyperline conceal xD i got the 3a multi threat coming in which costs less and its still conceable on top of being rifle plate capable
Thanks
I'd love to see it stand up against a pick-type weapon
Soft armor doesn't protect against shanks, unless it's their "special threat" vest with stab layer
I kept thinking he said safe lite...like the windshield repair company
Safe fight repaaaiiiiirrrss
Safe fight replacccce
“Hardly any bulge at all” are you talking about Justin Trudeau?
There’s a lot to be said for low profile gear
Any codes for the rubber dummies been eyeing two for my private range
I've heard safelife is kinda sus. I'd sooner trust "expired" body armor from a police department
Wym
What if the use of rifles just wasn't reported.🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
10mm? .357? .44mag? I’d have liked to see heavier calibers
Crazy how I was gonna buy this for $1,000 and now I know it’s not stab proof! Nope not doing it. I work with knifes are involve and I’m not paying $1,000 for something that won’t protect me
No standard IIIA vest is stab proof. They're designed to stop handgun rounds.
It always KILLS me how people talk 5HIT about this armor but there is NO armor out there that is as LIGHT, THIN, MULTIPLE SHOT protection and down right COMFORTABLE than SAFELIFE! YES! I HAVE THEM! I HAVE THE HYPER, FRAS, and H2. I also have my SHELLBACK and I still own my 2009 chest rig with AR500 plates! NOTHING COMPARES TO THE COMFORT of SafeLife! NOTHING! And the videos keep proving that they back up the PROTECTION SIDE OF THEIR ARMOR! i DONT NEED TO SPEAK ON THAT FOR THEM.
You should test the 7.5 fk brno
I have level 3+ steel and 3a soft thena trauma pad i lick something like that but lighter
New subscriber via Administrative Results. I had to watch this one first because I saw the Skrama and got wicked curious. Cool video. Heading over to IG for a sub, as well.
*BRICKED* _HOODOOS_
I’m extremely put off by their “for law enforcement use not military use” nonsense to justify their abysmal tactical carrier
Btw I own their slick and tactical carrier along with their soft armor and rifle plates
@@PnP-td1mt agree, the velcro on the carriers is trash. (they need something more industrial then the hook/loop they use).
You look like Jimmy from Yellowstone in your thumbnail. Lil bit.
Soft body from safelife is great.
Yeah you might not get a bullet inside your chest but I'll deal with broken ribs and having a dent instead 💀💀💀💀
Man the cring of a 40cal xd😂😂😂😂
But will it protect me from the thott that wants my essence??
Just roll a 20 and make mallies lol fire trumps everything unless you are a avatar
only $1500...😣
Ah no not that much. You exaggerated by $350
@@montanapleaseI’d say it’s worth it I got one for 1200 super easy to go under a t shirt
No 10mm?
No one uses that nowadays
@@tubeguy4066I use 10mm. It's snappy im the Glock 20, but more than manageable if you're not a limp wrist.
@@tubeguy4066 Yes we do. Lol. It might not be as common, but it's definitely still in use.