Pastor’s Dead Wife’s Best Friend, Divorce Attorney Spill Secrets About Toxic Relationship
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Since Mica Miller took her own life earlier this month, her estranged husband John-Paul Miller has been in the spotlight. Mica’s family accuses the pastor of abusing and harassing Mica prior to her death. The couple was going through divorce proceedings just before the 30-year-old’s death. Law&Crime’s Jesse Weber spoke with Mica’s best friend Charlotte Korn, as well as her family law attorney Regina Ward, about newly revealed text messages and accusations against John-Paul.
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Any time I accidentally find myself in incognito, I panic because I imagine that will be the first thing "they" will look at. I never bought the incognito option. All along, I felt it would have been entrapment for those not smart enough to see a trap.
In my opinion the lawyer advised her politically rather than humanely which is what she should have done. Clients in duress need immediate separation and distance. This situation did not protect her‼️
JP is a pervert guaranteed
Did this not already settle with google?
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Notice the focus of the Millers is on HER "mental illness" and not on their son's horrific abuse of his wife. And JP's behavior after she died is so cruel and oblivious that it is a case study in narcissism. Major gaslighting of his victims.
The video of JP laying in the grass having a complete meltdown shows the true mentally ill person
Agreed its an age old tactic to take the heat off the true suspect...allegedly is the golden grail criminals use to get away with dirt but justice prevails either in this life or after death
He made her sick. And they got it wrong JP was the very ill one. Narcissists always say that the victim is the sick one. The apple does not fall far from the street. Sounds like he made up all kinds of stories what an a……ssh.le, I think his dad is incorrect and making crap up to make Mika look bad. It’s always the victim. He tracked her, he’s sick. I am so frustrated with narcissists. I have no patience for JP Miller what so ever.
@@a.life.reimagined boom!!! Wooooo...yesss yesss yesss!!!!
Have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe she was so crazy that everything she claimed was just a fantasy.
People don't get prescribed Lithium when they are a rational, sane person.
Lithium is only prescribed to the craziest among us.
He should NOT be a pastor of anything.
His sermons are so irrational. I can’t believe he had people sitting there through his speeches. They are horrible.
@@AmandaRosas-tr3igThat’s what happens with incongruent people. His true values didn’t align with his purported values.
those people sitting in his "church" are propping this entire lie (pastor) up ... he is not a pastor or a Christian ... he's a leader of a group of gullible people ... just because you call yourself one, that doesn't make you one. People who are real Christians do not have to tell you they are, you will see it ... a real pastor does not refer to his wife as a F'ing B ... no matter how upset he is ... this is all a lie.
He ain’t one he nothing but the devil
He was in another state and she talked about killing her self, end of story! Unless there was a hit man, case closed! She killed herself, get over it people!!!! 🙂
The only sickness Mica suffered from was psychological trauma and abuse. Been there, know how it works, and she made excuses for his behavior right til the end. This is textbook stuff.
and physical...
Exactly Right
"pastor" J P Miller = Matthew 7:23 KJV "I never knew you" ???
Agreed!
Hugs to this OP. I have been there also. I agree with you.
If JP believed she was so sick, why would he continue to torture her. In that case he's culpable for her death based on his own stated knowledge of her mental health and his sadistic actions towards her in spite of.
Excellent point!
Right!?
Bingo!
Exactly!! 💯 💯 💯
Yup
I had an ex-husband like this...not a pastor, but he used many of the same tactics, and it is so hard to articulate to anyone else in a way that they would understand.. I tried 6 times to get out, and nearly died... If I hadn't been lucky enough to record him admitting to how he fantasized about killing me, no one would have believed me.... People don't want to believe that someone could be this intentionally cruel... I am so thankful her story is being told!! Prayers to her family and loved ones!! ❤️🙏
I believe you. I've been in your shoes. Evidence is key, unfortunately
My ex was like this. Not as bad but bad. If I hadn't left when he was out of town, I have no idea what he'd have done. I had nightmares he was going to set my parents house on fire with us inside.
So many people think he's great, he abused me behind closed doors and I was too terrified of him to record his rage tantrums, talking about murdering people.
He shredded me. I'm 6 years out and STILL healing. It's so difficult to rebuild one's shredded self esteem 😢
I'm so glad that you got away and that you're safe now❤
@starlingswallow I'm so glad you're safe now too ❤ and im so sorry that you experienced that abuse. Hearing about this stuff that Mika went through and that you and other women and men have dealt with and still do just breaks my heart.
Same. “ mom “ and two exes. They all have the same playbook. Read “ healing from hidden abuse “ it’s very validating
I had an abusive husband say the exact same thing so people didn't listen to me when I asked for help
Bravo for being able to say had! Been there too.
@@jilltagmorris more people need to know thats a red flag most people who love a person don't air their personal business and telling people they are mentally ill when they may not be is a way of controlling them.
Absolutely. Me too with my first husband. He told everyone. I lost my family and he was so happy about it.
Me too
Me too
❤
Gaslight much? The Miller family should say NOTHING about Mica's tragic death. They don't know how bad the optics are for them to be bad-mouthing her when she cannot defend herself. They have no shame. It's the age-old trope that abuser's families use, "She's crazy" and it's never, ever about the abuser's role.
What did THEY do to stop their SON from mistreating her? Nothing, they just kept putting it all on her and they still are!
Their son is evil and he'll try to break another woman if he isn't stopped. Mica was not his first victim.
That's the narcissist "go to" she's crazy....they always slander and blame shift
In very poor taste. The abuse is evident and so was his beyond pathetic “eulogy”. Unfortunately maybe the apple didn’t fall too far from the tree….🙄
Abuse is often covered up this way. Abuse and money crimes. She is just crazy.
You are completely spot on 👏🏻
Problem is, his dad is evil too
also if he claims she is SO MENTALLY UNSTABLE and stopped taking her meds, he would have kept her body and did an autopsy to prove that there were no meds in her body. He knows what he did and it’s a shame that town followed his lead, the cops and coroner
Absolutely..and the fact that he wanted her cremated immediately..that's SOOOO OBVIOUS he's hiding something!!
She was sick, SICK OF HIM!
You got that right!!!!! Absolutely!!!!!!!
So did she shoot herself or not?
My thoughts exactly. He was a gaslighting malignant narcissist.
And still is....
@@mah3223alia unfortunately not the other way around :(
Came to say the same thing! Something is definitely not right here!
@@mah3223alia
Yes he sure was. The worst kind of evil.
(in Devil Wears Prada voice) A man calling a woman crazy to delegitimize her....... groundbreaking
This and everyone of course believing him.🙄
But you do understand she was bi polar schitzoid right? Husband was crazy too. These are not secrets.
This!!
Exactly, nothing new under the sun.
This is the most disgusting story of Coercive Control I have heard of - and it is a common tactic in abusers. JUSTICE FOR MICA!
...and this is how a "pastor" talks about his wife to others??!🤔
...ungodly for sure....
My thoughts exactly! Foul language from a pastor and addressing his wife in such derogatory terms… SMH
He would humiliate her during his sermons.
@@AmandaRosas-tr3ig he was gaslighting the entire congregation in regard to his wife.
When I’ve heard her speak she sounds rational, compassionate and reasonable. When I’ve heard him speak he sounds selfish, narcissistic, untrustworthy.
How could a practicing minister send such a horrible text to a family who just lost a daughter - much less his own wife! I hope his congregation realizes the kind of person they have been listening to.
So many of those disgusting men/women with immoral character work as heads of churches.
Because he’s truly demonic
And needs to never step foot in a pulpit
Gaslighting is his MO.
He needs to be held accountable for her death. He’s psycho.
Gaslighting aint a crime lol 🤣
Clearly they are projecting blame on an innocent person… how dare they question her mental health when he is literally a toxic freak
They are both mentally ill.
This is what happens when you're in a relationship, some type of relationship, with a Narcissist.💔
100% 😢
@@LivingtheinvisiblelifeI think you are misreading the original post.
exactly
Let his first wife speak....
Hearing the things he would text her is so wild. The level of gaslighting is expert. He would talk about finding a first lady that's better than she is and the constant insecurities he would push on her. Calling his wife "first lady" shows an insane amount of arrogance and narcissism in my opinion.
Right? Like he's the President or something
@@AndromedasLight17he's exactly what ✝️rump is
How did you get to see the texts?
It's a very common practice to define the pastor's wife as the first Lady of the church.
He pushed her over the edge. Narcissistic abuse .
He was projecting on to her. Everything he said and did to her is who he is. … not Mica. That’s the nature of the beast
This is a wild one. Dude is guilty of something. I hope they investigate him.
Nah that guy is evil he did something For sure and that lady was groomed from a young age smh that’s disgusting
The pastor emotionally and physically tormented her.
5/23/24 Infidelity, controlling, grooming child as trusted Adult Pastor emotional, psychological abuse of Mica and gaslighting at every turn! Justice for Mica 💔💜
Having a mental illness is not a crime. Pushing someone to commit su**ide is a crime. Abuse is a crime.
The father in law only knows what he was told by his monster of a son, thinking he knows Mica better than her own family is disgusting. Glad her family/friends are able to speak for her, the other side certainly isn’t holding back on speaking against her. Justice for Mica.
The Father has issues too, the nut doesn't fall far from the tree.
John Paul wasn't disturbed ???? He laid on the grass and pretended to cry like a lunatic 😮 I think he is really disturbed !!
Well WHAT ABOUT THE AGE GAP???? the father is going to ignore that…
what does that have to do with anything?
JP met her when he was 28 and she was 14. @@katharinecreswell4866
👏🏼
@@katharinecreswell4866 she was groomed
That pastor is a freak 🤯... Really disturbing individual... Saying it mindly .🤬
If the entire judicial system Ever took classes on Narcissism, there would be less innocent people in jail !!!
It should be required.And in schools too.Soft core psych classes should be in public schools like Home Economics once was…
Most of the judiciary system and most of the school administrators are very high on the narcissism spectrum.
So, that's how pastor's talk?? The F word?! Disgusting!! 🤨
The police jumped to a conclusion bc of her husband being a pastor, and her having a diagnosis & what, decided not to investigate? How sad for Mica!
Mica husband killed her for wanting to leave him creep
This lady is an amazing friend. I cried listening to her speak about mica
ALL guys say this crap when a woman leaves him! 😠
RIP beautiful Mica 😢
💯
He’s evil and NSANE
Yes. He’s NOT very Christlike.
His language as a pastor , he have a relationship with the 😈.
He’s the most insane leader I’ve ever seen in my life .. everything about him is like a movie I can’t believe it’s real ; he’s got one colorful life he’s pathetic - and such a whimp .. Mica was light and strength and hope and love to others
Some Church Administrators have similar behaviors. SMH
“Insane” get a clue!
I lived my childhood with a narcissist daddy and this is how he would act! My poor mama didn’t even get to have her on life 😿
This is the 2024 version of the film ‘Gaslight’ ……he’s a toxic evil person imo
My first thought is HOW ON EARTH are you at the pulpit when you just lost your wife? Like, someone would obviously step up in your place and do your sermon because you should be in mourning… for your wife.
That was a huge red flag. Guess it was more important for him to get his narrative out first. Sickening!
He just HAD to be on that stage to “perform “
He's an emotional, mental and spiritual toddler. He has no understanding what life and death actually mean.
Not only that.. but guess what he preached at her funeral
Sympathy dollars in that collection plate 😅
She doesn’t look that mentally ill even day of death she’s put together she’s so naturally beautiful inside and out her mental health was caused by JP tormenting gaslighting abuse in every way I have lived it she was sick bc of that whole Miller family !!!
So in your world mentally ill people all look a certain way? Do you know anything about mental illness? Bi polar? Schizophrenia?
So what was she doing buying a gun then if she was happy?
Protection - she surely had mental issues to some degree caused by a psychopaths control and authority and manipulation I have been in this type marriage and at my worst I almost did the same but I could not do that to my son it was the whole family who were all my neighbors in a one mile circle at that I too didn’t even tell my mother for years after getting married and it’s strange he us connected eveb to the very river so weird man’s a parasite to society much less a congregation.. I hope better investigation is done
@@alyssa5669 reports show she had fire arms JP we would think had “taken or had” them and he was awfully worried about her buying one I still haven’t seen proof of his alibi but a truck picture he should be held accountable criminally; it should be a law - and pastors preachers the like are not exempt from that poor girl was drove absolutely crazy anyone would :(
Mental illness doesn’t have a “look”.
THE MESSAGE FROM JP. TO MICAH'S FAMILY "
SOUNDED LIKE A
FORM OF CONTROL
MOCKING & SCOFFING AT MICAH'S FAMILY.
AS IN TELLING HER FAMILY,
JP👉 YOU SHOULD OF NEVER GOT INVOLVED BY TAKING MICAH AWAY FROM ME.
Yep...
Blame shifting
Victim blaming
Typical narcissist
They did create the narcissist.
If she really thought about killing herself, why wouldn’t she leave a note?? If she cares enough to want to be found…. But not leave a note to her family?
I dunno…. Things don’t add up to me 🤔🤔
She borrowed money from friends to pay bills, paying her rent, car payment and taxes....sje would have left her family a key to her apartment so they could have all the evidence she spent years collecting against JP....she would make sure they got her personal possessions
Agreed I dont believe her voice is on the 911 call.
@@youANDme...equalsU.S.well, and if it wasn’t AI, for sure I think that if it was really her in that phone call, then she was definitely forced to make the call.
@@GriBlancoWonder if it could be AI generated??
Someone did an AI call and it sounded like her call to 911 so it very well
Could have been AI !!
What a lovely person Charlotte is!
Such a loss for so many! J P has a screw lose!!
OHMYGOSHH IM SO MAD RN. SHE WAS NOT IN PSYCHOSIS!!!! WHAT THEY'RE SAYING THAT IS NOT A PSYCHOTIC EPISODE!!!!!
Right, I've been a nurse 30 years....JPs episode on the grass with his complete meltdown IS a sign of a psychotic break.....
She was clearly not in psychosis.
So true. No one has “a three month psychotic episode” or whatever nonsense he is spewing.
A person smiling when they're talking to somebody doesn't mean anything when it comes to depression. I have moderate to severe depression and when I'm talking with people, I smile all the time. It's automatic; it is for many women. I've just started watching this, but I know that it really doesn't mean anything when you're looking to see if someone's depressed.
That, "I thought you should know..." text does NOT seem like a grieving husband who just lost his wife. It looks like somebody covering his a**
People suffering from deprrssion also smile because they have given up trying to explain their depression to family and friends. So they pretend everything is fine . . . and then go home and collapse.
It doesn't make sense, who off themselves after filling for divorce, or finally decided to leave their abuser?
This. That is usually the most dangerous time for the victim. When they leave their abuser. Arrogant monsters don't like being left or exposed.
Mentally weak people
Exactly! When I left my 1st husband because of abuse(He never till this day will still deny it, lies still) I was FINALLY FREE, But I had a friend pick me up, left a note. He didn't know where I was.
That remorseless s.o.b should've been with a different woman around his age instead of poor Mica like this. That's why he kept cheating and abusing love with power as a demon himself
No he should have gone and lived in a cave his entire life.
No woman should be anywhere near him
JP sounds like the crazy one, not Mica.
It sounds like he was bullying her.
It’s usually the ones closest to you that you need to beware of
Woah the text message from JP is psychotic! Wouldn’t you call in person at a reasonable time and say “took her own life” or “passed away” rather than the way he said it, he has ZERO human empathy.
@hayleym2122, this man is a pastor and that’s a scary thought. To send her best friend a text that was so cold and impersonal was very telling. Anyone with any feelings would have called her and gave her such horrible news.
Slander of her name should tell you enough.
Husband & his father are sick in the head , trying to make her seem like she was sick ... You know you dod this to her ( all my opinion ) she bought that gun to protect herself from him !!! This is all my opinion !!
Those texts are very important and telling. He’s obviously been abusive and cruel for years!!
Been through a similar situation. My mother-in-law blamed me for issues in the marriage and was totally blind to any fault in her son. It was useless to try to shine a light on my plight as my ex was a beloved leader in the church. No one would have believed the man he was at home. Thankfully, my ex found another woman and divorced me to marry her. Today, he is a jobless alcoholic squatting in his dead mother's apartment. I am thankful to be alive today and doing very well. I believe there's more to this Mica's story that will come out in time. I do know one thing that I do know, there will be consequences that her sheep in wolf's clothing will face.
Listening to her lawyer, she was still trying to make things easier on JP Miller. We do this as codependents. Sad, cause he’s blamed her for everything.
Codependent and someone in fear
I don't like victim blaming but his first wife divorced him after finding him in bed with the babysitter. The babysitter was Micah.
@@lauradelregno99What a church !
Here we go. TRUTH is comin!
what a weird way to msg someone about Mica's death, the msg to her best friend.
Be glad for friends that stand up for you. This is such a tragedy
10:50 Mica was 15 when they met… and he was 28!?
😭😭😭😭 that guy was on a mission
And married with 5 kids
Well let’s just all take the word of a criminal
JPs dad is wanted in Pakistan for SA of children. He has a VERY sorted past...definitely not someone who should be trusted
@@mightymouse1005The pastor’s father abused children? Shocking. /s
But really. I’m not really that surprised, and that’s sad.
Her father said on Live interview he made her watch him have relations with a man against her will. WOULD U BE DEPRESSED?? Or reallly exuberantly happy???
She was not mentally Ill just a normal reaction to her life like depression and anxiety due to what was happening
Wow 😢
Haven't heard this - do u know what Live that was?
@@MayaGTKthis info wouldve been everywhere if it was an actual video
Happier to be out of that $*/! show!!
Of course the son's father is going to provide an alibi for his psychotic son!
The apple never falls far from the tree
He’s one huge gaslighter. Calling over and over and over. These texts arm bazaar.
I swear JP has opioid eyes in a lot of his pictures.
I'm confused.....this is a pastor? In what world and what church?
How about all the kiddie fiddler priests in the catholic church. All the same.
He’s a bully. Like the little 10 year old Sammy who recently took his own life due to terrible bullying. This is the absolute SAME. NOW ARREST HIM!! He’s an evil bully!!
How many red flags does someone need to have 😮
what a cold text!!! "i'll keep you posted" ????
No one says “I want my family to find me” if they are about to off themselves, they just leave letters.
Let us all band together and pray for the truth and justice in this case for this poor woman. What is done in the dark is brought to the light.
Miller’s father is just as sick! Look in to him!
Why people get sucked into these types of organizations in the first place is absolutely mind boggling to me.
He’s a narcissist and that’s what he twists the narrative to place blame on others when he doesn’t receive the answer he wants.
I’ve met plenty of Pastors in my life and I’ve never met one that treats people the way he does! Disgusting!
Are you going to give the background on Miller's father? According to what I've seen reported, he's not a credible person in my opinion.
Nope, he’s not. Hes just as bad
Yeah, from what I heard, the senior Miller is the original very very sick individual.
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
@@jeanag3279 it absolutely does not
The whole church group seems weird. IMO.
All Jp's communication after her death was so not like a grieving man.... or even a human... absolutely no remorse anywhere... he is an absolute con man... just pushing a narrative to everyone.
JP’s father is clearly defaming Mica and violating HIPAA. I don’t believe anything he says and there’s also speculation that the so called video of her in Africa claiming she pulled the trigger that locked may not really sync up with the recording. Maybe JPs attorney and AI expert altered the video and soundtrack. It should be looked at more closely.
I don't believe a word he says either. Ridiculous. Fyi, HIPPA laws apply to health care providers, doctors, etc, not individuals.
Hipaa only applies to medical providers to keep their patients info confidential.
Is he a healthcare provider? If not, he is not subject to HIPAA. I’m not defending the guy, he is a convicted criminal himself, in addition to being 100% classless. Just trying to be accurate.
He can't violate HIPAA. He isn't the provider or part of her medical team.
What he's doing is continued abuse beyond the grave
All of her friends are beautiful just like she was…😢❤😢❤😢❤
May the truth be revealed and peace come to the family.
15:32 he is a wolf in sheep clothing and I feel for all of his members of his church that fell for his “Sunday best” that even that sometimes was strange and off!!
It’s all theater-people like someone up there ranting and raving so they personally don’t have to change their own lives or make their own decisions-they just praise, adore and pay and “follow” the pastor-one decision-rest of life is easy.
Why do we elect to follow narcissists in religion and politics? They DON’T have the answers. Their supposed confidence is disdain for US.
He is the WORST
What kind of pastor use that language???😲
Most dangerous time is when women try to leave, so i have heard , sounds fishey
He was the one laying on the ground crying. I think he had the mental issues.
Thing is, if you know your spouse has mental illness and you provoke, abuse , harass, manipulate and gaslight her anyway, that says a lot more about you than her.
Have you seen the Video of John Paul on the grass acting crazy and saying he's got ants crawling on him?? And you think Mica was crazy....ummmmm don't think so
Huh?
They are both crazy. That part is obvious. RIP Mica.
@@johnhenry9456
Mica wasn't crazy. She was overwhelmed and exhausted after being married to a toddler masquerading as a pastor.
@@johnhenry9456 she was not crazy, she was living in an untenable marriage
@johnjenry I don’t think she, Micah, was crazy. I think she was married to an abuser who tried to make her think she was crazy.
Justice for Mica.💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Everyone needs a friend like Charlotte to fight their corner.
Except she didn't call the police.
Call the police and say what exactly? She physically watched for JP to leave, her husband went over there on the night the text fight was going on and she encouraged mics to have the police do a wellness check on him to make sure he didn’t do anything. She went to the elders of the church and told them everything.. she literally did everything she could to help her friend, it was the system that failed her.
And that creepy church is still up and running?? 👿👿 wow…
There are many more churches like this than one would think.
This lady is absolutely beautiful I cant believe this !!!
Its crazy how Mica Miller's case reminds me of Cassie and Diddy. Similar sexually deviant abusers who are older than the woman and in control of the public narrative. Unfortunately, Mica was taken away by her abuser. They need to shut down that fraudulent church.
I work with dv survivors and he is text book an abusive sick piece of garbage . It’s so ridiculous. Drop it. None of us think she’s crazy and if she was in that headspace, it was because of you JP.
Keep up the fight mate, love your channel.
Mica was with this man since she was 15 and he was a grown adult, he messed up her brain when it wasn’t even developed yet, how strong she was to be able to try to leave
Nicely handled interviews! Thank you!