Getting fit for new sticks obviously can be fun. As a long time fitter, the main issue I find w/mid & especially high handicappers, is the inconsistency regardless of what clubs they are trying. It can be very difficult at times to dial in any consistent numbers. One shot is a low pull, one a shank, the next a sky ball etc. Have had customers more or less ignore the good numbers and go w/what they think they should have in the bag. Best reply I ever got from a low capper was that his ultimate goal was to lower his handicap & could I tell him these newly fitted clubs would accomplish that goal? Obviously I couldn't guarantee that & w/most normal mid cappers, their handicap rarely changes. That takes lessons & practice, often not new clubs.
And this is why I haven't ever tried a custom fit, yet. I gave up golf for the last 20 years, and started it back up a year ago. There doesn't seem to be much chance for an accurate custom fit until I can consistently strike the ball the same way. Maybe by the fall I will reach that point.
This has been an interesting series, please thank Steve for sparing his time to share his Custom Fitting with the channel. 👍 It will be fascinating to see how he plays with his new sticks and as I mention before it would be interesting to get Steve in with Lou to iron out some of his swing issues👍👍
61 years old. Purchased hybrid 799 irons from sub 70 with recoil shafts to tighten the dispersion. Also play with 5h and 7 wood. Makes rounds more fun and should be taking my hdcp below 10 soon.
Wonderful, relevant video. You highlighted the problem I experienced at my recent fitting with club champion. Out on the course I do not like my 3 wood and 3 hybrid of which I was just fitted. In this video the fitter had all clubs available to try. In contrast, Club champion only fits with a 3 wood, a 3 hybrid and a 6 iron and assumes from there. Your video showed a much more proper way to fit. Unfortunately, we do not have access to such a fitting done by a brand and hitting out into the open vs hitting into a screen. Thank you for such a pertinent video (and so beautifully narrated with very pertinent details)
My set is the Callaway Epic Speed 10.5 driver, Ping 16.5* 4wood, Ping G25 hybrid 20*, Cleveland Halo 25* and 28* hybrid, then ping eye-2 irons 6-pw. Vokey 54* and 58*
I am an old teaching pro, with the emphasis on old. I bought a paradyme x 4 iron a month ago. It goes as far as my heavenwood. Not quite as high but just as far. In the coastal wind if North Carolina that is an advantage into the wind. I noticed on the Callaway web sight that the 4 iron was the same loft as the one iron I used for many years. So in essence this new 4 iron is my old one iron but with the weighting much easier to hit.
As a 58 year old who only started playing 7 months ago, I quickly found loft is your friend. Firstly using old Ping Eye irons, I could not get distance from 3 & 4 irons or use a 3 wood off the deck. Now on a 12 degree driver, 5 wood, 7 wood, 4 & 5 hybrids then 6 iron to SW my game is transformed
Excellent video. Top notch. Sounds like a fitting like that is extremely beneficial. Excited to do that in the near future. Also nice a hybrid that hooks less. I gotta get fitted/try out the paradym and paradym x hybrid indoors.
It's brilliant to understand a process like that - not asking the cost of Steve's bag, but what are the approximate/average costs for custom fit with Callaway
I went driver 4 wood, 7 wood, 5 hybrid. The 7 is awesome off the fairway, hybrid in the rough. This set up seems to work for me. The 4 wood I use mainly off the tee on shorter par 4s where I need to keep it in play and away from trouble. Really like this series.
Best hybrids & woods I've owned in Paradym - love them - I always buy the 5 iron but play a hybrid in its place & switch around - go from 10.5 driver (+1) to 3w, 4h (-1), 7w, 5h/5i into 6i - like the mix of hybrid & wood but love the 5w also but don't have - I play Paradym X irons but standard driver, woods & hybrids - the advantage of the 5h over the 5i is I can change loft & shaft as I age but iron I can't - great video btw (where is part 1 as I can't find it)
I really like this series, very relatable. I guess you will fit wedges too and maybe putter? Surprised we didn’t see him hit 7wood and 9 wood since you were talking about the modern bag. Descent angle on 26 deg hybrid looked low? Looking forward to the on course stuff and maybe 2 or 3 lessons with Lewis?😊
An excellent custom club fitting and proper gapping is ideal for every golf, especially if you want to play your best. It also, as we saw, helps you buy only the clubs you actually need to play your best. Cheers.
Just as a matter of interest why the Paradym woods?? Noticed it was a Ping centre as well. I think if you find a set of irons that suits you that's great but you can pick and choose between the brands that suit you with the woods.
I think a lot of amateur’s could benefit from a lofted up 3w with a 1/3-3/4” taken out of the shaft. Taylormade has the 3HL which I think is 16 or 16.5 deg, and you can even add an additional 1.5 degrees of loft. This will allow to take advantage of the larger 3 wood head and add some loft
I have a question regarding that range between Driver and 5 iron. Around here the winds are almost always strong, usually 15-20mph, but some days, like today, are worse, in the 30-40mph range. I need at least one club in the bag for hitting low shots into the wind. I have not tried hitting my driver off the deck, but I've thought about trying it. Is there something else that I'm more likely to hit successfully? My go-to club for that shot at the moment is a 3W.
Depends greatly on what tee markers you play from. At age 64, I do not play from the ego markers. I walk straight to the white tees (in the US). I can play all day with a Driver, 18, 23 and 31 degree hybrids, 7 iron down to 58 degree wedge and a putter. 10 clubs in the bag. Easy carry, easy in and out of car. I can hit that 23 degree hybrid 150 yds or 190. Depending on need or mishit.
My motto is never be afraid to try different clubs that might work for you. I have a bag full of hybrids and woods and thats what I play with. Works out great.
Great video. I always think it's a shame they go down in cc size 3 Wood to 5 Wood though, the players who benefit from the additional loft / can't get the launch out of a 3 Wood I'm sure could still do with maintaining the additional forgiveness the 3 Wood head has as they effectively using it as a 3 Wood replacement. A 4 HL fairway would surely be popular in fittings, or pxg style weighting to maintain head but switch to shorter shaft.
I'm struggling to know what to do with the top end I need lessons with the driver as I hit down not up a guy from ping said I'll be getting 260 carry if I hit up but I tend to get between 200-230 carry, I've got a mizuno clk 2020 3 hybrid which I carry 215 and goes strighter, last round I was just using that off the tee as it was safer, with not really any distance lost im debating on eaither getting a 2 hybrid then eaither knock up this 3 to make sort of a 4 or knock this one down and get a 4, so I go driver, 2 hybrids then 5 iron
Driver ping g425;3wood Callaway maverick rescue 4 Taylor made 56789 sw gw Scottie putter senior golfer thinking of getting more 7 wood and 9 wood easier to hit 😊as you get older
putting still accounts for 25-45% of peoples shots. while the 13 other clubs are not even close to being used that much. which is why putting is still always most important
@@thisjustanother The vast majority of golfers are terrible, and putting/short game is a major factor in this. Believing you can improve your putting by wasting money on clubs rather than improving your technique is laughably naive.
@@sandersson2813 you wont know what style of putter, or hybrid, or driver, or iron you need til you buy and try them out. so yes, you still need to spend money on clubs to improve your game.
@@thisjustanother It doesn't matter much if you aren't consistent in your swing or stroke. One putter isn't suddenly going to improve you sufficiently to make you better. Golfers should practice more and buy less. There's a reason they don't get any better. Of course you have to buy clubs, and one putter might suit a shitty swing or stroke better than another, but the swing is the greater weakness and correcting a shit swing by a fraction with a club which suits you only slighter better is barely going to improve your game in the long run. I could improve an average golfers game MUCH more by using better course management rather than replacing clubs.
With no bias or criticism against the fitter, how can the fitting be given merit or credibility when Steve has visibly poor fundamentals. His grip stands out like a sore thumb if you pardon the pun!
@@TheAverageGolfer Behave. It would be entirely appropriate for the fitter to suggest lessons to tighten up / improve the fundamentals of the player first in order that the club fitting process was more relevant. A club fitting that is made from a starting point of bad technique will not improve the player.
@@scooter0012 you're just another guy that thinks there is only one way to swing a club. Steve owns that swing and if it works for him who are you to say it's flawed. The advice from one of the all time greats is "swing your swing" scooter.
@@pgowan357 Absolutely agree that a swing is individual, but what you can’t disagree with is if the fundamental aspects like the grip is wrong it creates no consistency in terms of delivering the club face and path squarely at impact.
@@CarnoustieScooter I watched it again, It does appear he is squaring the club at impact. I have seen stranger grips like lead had low. I don't even know how guys do that but some are good ball strikers. So I don't agree with you that this is about correct swing fundamentals. If it feels right to him that's what matters.
Probably the best and most honest club assessment I have ever seen. We are amateur golfers so time to keep it real.
Nice the read Laurence
Getting fit for new sticks obviously can be fun. As a long time fitter, the main issue I find w/mid & especially high handicappers, is the inconsistency regardless of what clubs they are trying. It can be very difficult at times to dial in any consistent numbers. One shot is a low pull, one a shank, the next a sky ball etc. Have had customers more or less ignore the good numbers and go w/what they think they should have in the bag. Best reply I ever got from a low capper was that his ultimate goal was to lower his handicap & could I tell him these newly fitted clubs would accomplish that goal? Obviously I couldn't guarantee that & w/most normal mid cappers, their handicap rarely changes. That takes lessons & practice, often not new clubs.
Totally agree with the lessons and practice, more than new clubs. Also that lessons, learning good technique first, comes before practice.
And this is why I haven't ever tried a custom fit, yet. I gave up golf for the last 20 years, and started it back up a year ago. There doesn't seem to be much chance for an accurate custom fit until I can consistently strike the ball the same way. Maybe by the fall I will reach that point.
This has been an interesting series, please thank Steve for sparing his time to share his Custom Fitting with the channel. 👍
It will be fascinating to see how he plays with his new sticks and as I mention before it would be interesting to get Steve in with Lou to iron out some of his swing issues👍👍
Glad you enjoyed, I also found it an interesting process. Let’s see them on the course soon
61 years old. Purchased hybrid 799 irons from sub 70 with recoil shafts to tighten the dispersion. Also play with 5h and 7 wood. Makes rounds more fun and should be taking my hdcp below 10 soon.
Wonderful, relevant video. You highlighted the problem I experienced at my recent fitting with club champion. Out on the course I do not like my 3 wood and 3 hybrid of which I was just fitted. In this video the fitter had all clubs available to try. In contrast, Club champion only fits with a 3 wood, a 3 hybrid and a 6 iron and assumes from there. Your video showed a much more proper way to fit. Unfortunately, we do not have access to such a fitting done by a brand and hitting out into the open vs hitting into a screen. Thank you for such a pertinent video (and so beautifully narrated with very pertinent details)
My set is the Callaway Epic Speed 10.5 driver, Ping 16.5* 4wood, Ping G25 hybrid 20*, Cleveland Halo 25* and 28* hybrid, then ping eye-2 irons 6-pw. Vokey 54* and 58*
I like the set up Frank, 4 woods should be more readily available
I am an old teaching pro, with the emphasis on old. I bought a paradyme x 4 iron a month ago. It goes as far as my heavenwood. Not quite as high but just as far. In the coastal wind if North Carolina that is an advantage into the wind. I noticed on the Callaway web sight that the 4 iron was the same loft as the one iron I used for many years. So in essence this new 4 iron is my old one iron but with the weighting much easier to hit.
As a 58 year old who only started playing 7 months ago, I quickly found loft is your friend. Firstly using old Ping Eye irons, I could not get distance from 3 & 4 irons or use a 3 wood off the deck. Now on a 12 degree driver, 5 wood, 7 wood, 4 & 5 hybrids then 6 iron to SW my game is transformed
More of these videos please....nice work.
Excellent video. Top notch. Sounds like a fitting like that is extremely beneficial. Excited to do that in the near future. Also nice a hybrid that hooks less. I gotta get fitted/try out the paradym and paradym x hybrid indoors.
It's brilliant to understand a process like that - not asking the cost of Steve's bag, but what are the approximate/average costs for custom fit with Callaway
Confidence with a club is so important. One question: what are the lofts and distances of his 5i, 6i and 5 hybrid? Thanks
I went driver 4 wood, 7 wood, 5 hybrid. The 7 is awesome off the fairway, hybrid in the rough. This set up seems to work for me. The 4 wood I use mainly off the tee on shorter par 4s where I need to keep it in play and away from trouble. Really like this series.
I'm sort off same setup but looking for a 4wood? Love my 7 from cobra, but could I ask what 4wood you are running?
@@mrskjalg Tour Edge 523 in 17 degrees. It’s becoming my favorite.
@@bobsundermann4280 Thank you sir. Will certainly check it out.
Very few people need a 15 degree fairway wood to hit off the deck. I would have like to see him hit , 7, 9, and even 11 woods from callaway
Found this fascinating. Get more of Steve on, he talks excellently about how a lot of us feel. As always Andy keep up the great work.
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
Best hybrids & woods I've owned in Paradym - love them - I always buy the 5 iron but play a hybrid in its place & switch around - go from 10.5 driver (+1) to 3w, 4h (-1), 7w, 5h/5i into 6i - like the mix of hybrid & wood but love the 5w also but don't have - I play Paradym X irons but standard driver, woods & hybrids - the advantage of the 5h over the 5i is I can change loft & shaft as I age but iron I can't - great video btw (where is part 1 as I can't find it)
Your videos are very honest and to the point. Well done 👍🏻
I really like this series, very relatable. I guess you will fit wedges too and maybe putter? Surprised we didn’t see him hit 7wood and 9 wood since you were talking about the modern bag. Descent angle on 26 deg hybrid looked low? Looking forward to the on course stuff and maybe 2 or 3 lessons with Lewis?😊
Great video Andy! very informative.
An excellent custom club fitting and proper gapping is ideal for every golf, especially if you want to play your best. It also, as we saw, helps you buy only the clubs you actually need to play your best. Cheers.
Agreed 👍
Just as a matter of interest why the Paradym woods?? Noticed it was a Ping centre as well. I think if you find a set of irons that suits you that's great but you can pick and choose between the brands that suit you with the woods.
❤this channel. Best Golf Channel on The Tube!
I think a lot of amateur’s could benefit from a lofted up 3w with a 1/3-3/4” taken out of the shaft. Taylormade has the 3HL which I think is 16 or 16.5 deg, and you can even add an additional 1.5 degrees of loft. This will allow to take advantage of the larger 3 wood head and add some loft
Yes that 3 wood is a great option
I have a question regarding that range between Driver and 5 iron. Around here the winds are almost always strong, usually 15-20mph, but some days, like today, are worse, in the 30-40mph range. I need at least one club in the bag for hitting low shots into the wind. I have not tried hitting my driver off the deck, but I've thought about trying it. Is there something else that I'm more likely to hit successfully? My go-to club for that shot at the moment is a 3W.
Great idea for a series. Surprised you haven’t Tested out Chris Ryan -Must Do This. #1 move that nobody talks about. (Pros’s do this). Top video Pro.
Wondering if Steve's 5 iron at 23 degrees loft is needed given that he loves the 26 degree hybrid. Maybe on the course he'll sort that out.
Depends greatly on what tee markers you play from. At age 64, I do not play from the ego markers. I walk straight to the white tees (in the US). I can play all day with a Driver, 18, 23 and 31 degree hybrids, 7 iron down to 58 degree wedge and a putter. 10 clubs in the bag. Easy carry, easy in and out of car. I can hit that 23 degree hybrid 150 yds or 190. Depending on need or mishit.
Not sure I understand, the clubs are fitted to the individual not the course you play?
for example on the local courses I play, I do not need a 5 or six iron. I do not find myself at those distances.
I'm a huge fan of a 7 wood. I carry an ancient Cobra Baffler 7 wood (actual wood). That I don't think I'll ever get rid of.
My motto is never be afraid to try different clubs that might work for you. I have a bag full of hybrids and woods and thats what I play with. Works out great.
I have the same idea as this guy! 5 iron is my strongest iron then 25* hybrid, then 19* hybrid, the 15* 3 wood then 9* driver!
Good choices!
Good job Andy👌🏻 want about putting fitting the most inportint club. 😬??
How far does he hit his 5 iron at 21.5 degrees of loft? Did the fitter think there would be an issue with the hybrid stopping on the green?
Nothing beats a 3w off the deck. High handicappers must learn to play this shot!
Enjoyed the video Andy, can we see how Steve gets on with the new clubs on the course via a small video series? 🤔🤔
Yes mate that’s coming soon
Great video. I always think it's a shame they go down in cc size 3 Wood to 5 Wood though, the players who benefit from the additional loft / can't get the launch out of a 3 Wood I'm sure could still do with maintaining the additional forgiveness the 3 Wood head has as they effectively using it as a 3 Wood replacement. A 4 HL fairway would surely be popular in fittings, or pxg style weighting to maintain head but switch to shorter shaft.
Yes I agree very good point
I'm struggling to know what to do with the top end I need lessons with the driver as I hit down not up a guy from ping said I'll be getting 260 carry if I hit up but I tend to get between 200-230 carry, I've got a mizuno clk 2020 3 hybrid which I carry 215 and goes strighter, last round I was just using that off the tee as it was safer, with not really any distance lost im debating on eaither getting a 2 hybrid then eaither knock up this 3 to make sort of a 4 or knock this one down and get a 4, so I go driver, 2 hybrids then 5 iron
Is there a mistake in the figures? He was looking for a better descent angle with the hybrid and when adjusted it was worst, or did I miss something?
Similar distances to me. For 210 yard driver you don’t need 14 clubs.
Quite possibly
Play a round together with the new set.. would be great to watch 😊
Excellent video. Interested in his address, arms were very much Moe Norman like, where the arms and shaft seemed to be an extension of each other.
Archerfield…what a venue!
For his handicap steve isn't supposed to get on a 440yd par 4 in 2.. that's what his shots are for
No chipper fitting?!
Lets get a match on the channel to show off the gains!
Can I ask why he grips so far down the shaft?...you would think the fitter would have picked up on it!
Driver ping g425;3wood Callaway maverick rescue 4 Taylor made 56789 sw gw Scottie putter senior golfer thinking of getting more 7 wood and 9 wood easier to hit 😊as you get older
They are easier to hit irrelevant of age 👍
I cant imagine life without a 3 wood and now, a 7 wood. 😊
You hit the driver 210 yrds and playing a 440 yd par four, stop playing from the tips, move up and you will enjoy the game much more.
I just like to buy the new shiny stuff. Not looking for gains, just like new sticks. 😅
I never talk so much at my fittings.
Most golfers should stop wasting money on putters.
If your stroke is poor, doesn't matter what you use.
putting still accounts for 25-45% of peoples shots. while the 13 other clubs are not even close to being used that much. which is why putting is still always most important
@@thisjustanother The vast majority of golfers are terrible, and putting/short game is a major factor in this.
Believing you can improve your putting by wasting money on clubs rather than improving your technique is laughably naive.
@@sandersson2813 you wont know what style of putter, or hybrid, or driver, or iron you need til you buy and try them out. so yes, you still need to spend money on clubs to improve your game.
@@thisjustanother It doesn't matter much if you aren't consistent in your swing or stroke. One putter isn't suddenly going to improve you sufficiently to make you better.
Golfers should practice more and buy less. There's a reason they don't get any better.
Of course you have to buy clubs, and one putter might suit a shitty swing or stroke better than another, but the swing is the greater weakness and correcting a shit swing by a fraction with a club which suits you only slighter better is barely going to improve your game in the long run.
I could improve an average golfers game MUCH more by using better course management rather than replacing clubs.
With no bias or criticism against the fitter, how can the fitting be given merit or credibility when Steve has visibly poor fundamentals. His grip stands out like a sore thumb if you pardon the pun!
So you are suggesting the only golfers whom custom fit is relevant is those with a text book grip? A little bit silly?
@@TheAverageGolfer Behave. It would be entirely appropriate for the fitter to suggest lessons to tighten up / improve the fundamentals of the player first in order that the club fitting process was more relevant. A club fitting that is made from a starting point of bad technique will not improve the player.
@@scooter0012 you're just another guy that thinks there is only one way to swing a club. Steve owns that swing and if it works for him who are you to say it's flawed. The advice from one of the all time greats is "swing your swing" scooter.
@@pgowan357 Absolutely agree that a swing is individual, but what you can’t disagree with is if the fundamental aspects like the grip is wrong it creates no consistency in terms of delivering the club face and path squarely at impact.
@@CarnoustieScooter I watched it again, It does appear he is squaring the club at impact. I have seen stranger grips like lead had low. I don't even know how guys do that but some are good ball strikers. So I don't agree with you that this is about correct swing fundamentals. If it feels right to him that's what matters.
Driver
5wood
6,7,8,9 pw, sw
3,4 and 5 are just there to fill the bag lol 😂
I think you are right Russell and wasting a lot of money on them 🤷♂️