Electric Planer: Tool Overview
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We recently lumbered a 36" maple, a 36" white ash, and a 32" pecan. After drying, we tried planing with a Rigid (Home Depot) 13" planer with 2 HSS knives ruclips.net/user/postUgkxIzvvTi3_Qc8JnVdYYRJCvuoDC4QjTzeL . This job was clearly too much for that machine. The pecan was particularly difficult, due to heavy mineral deposits, and a sharp pair of HSS knives would be consumed by a mere 3 boards. We were also having lots of problems from chip bruising, due to poor dust collection. The shavings came off like straw and jammed in the 4" hose.We bought the DW735 simply to be able to run carbide blades, which worked brilliantly for the pecan. However, we found it to be a much, MUCH nicer machine. It was far more rigid than the "Rigid" planer, and far more accurate as well. But what I liked most about it was the dust feed. This machine has its own blower, which shreds the "straw" like shavings as they come off the cutting head and helps boost the shavings into the dust collection system. No more clogs! It's also nicely sealed so that the internals stay quite clean. This is just a well tempered machine that's a delight to use. It literally cut the labor in half. Just another example of getting what you pay for.
So happy you mentioned Lou. His video on how to set up a power plane is outstanding. Wait, every video Lou puts out is outstanding.
A power plane saved me a lot of time and effort to flatten the top of a workbench I built (Yes, I know there are many other ways to do that). One of the things I learned in the process is that a power plane also has the advantage that it can do a great deal more damage per second than a hand plane, so you save a lot of time and effort to wreak stuff, and can get on with redoing it much faster.
My father "trimmed" an aluminium shower enclosure with his power planer, what an animal!
His reasoning was that the blades were already pretty worn, it was Saturday and he was being paid on job rate. Amazingly the blades didn't even flinch, they lasted for many more months. What a horrific noise though!
Good story. No problems just solutions....
You can use a lot of woodworking tools on most aluminum, it's generally pretty soft.
J DeWitt
But be wary cutting aluminum stock on a chop saw! Go SLOW. I was cutting 1 inch angle and the material was kicked by the blade and it tore my left index finger up pretty badly. It’s still wrapped up as I type this!
@@JDeWittDIY I've used the my router to cut aluminum and copper. It's fun making metal chips.
@@stp1getexcited Pick tooth size like using a hack saw. And go slow.
I’ve got a power plane I’ve had for probably fifty years. I’ve used it less than five times. I also have an impressive collection of hand planes. Whenever I need to remove an imperfection I always reach for my Stanley jack plane. Sorry, I just do. I’ve worked with hand planes in all manner of wood construction, from rough framing houses to the minute exactness required in making custom acoustic guitars. Also very fine furniture I’ve made for myself and for sale for many years. The thing is with a hand plane, if you know how to properly sharpen, adjust and use it will give you an exactness never achievable with an electric model, no matter how expensive. Now, I’m not old school, anti electric tool person like the Woodright Shop guy or others. I have a shop full of electric tools. It’s just that when I need to remove a bulge, cut through a tough knot or bring a fine piece of wood down to exactness for a sound board there is no substitute for the control a hand plane gives.
Here is a tip for you Scott. Years ago, I built a Tudor style house with exposed faux post and beam in the exterior plaster. I took a small Makita planer and reground the blades with a shallow convex profile that left a "gouge-like" pattern on the wood. Gave the beams a truly "hand hewn" look without having to go after it with an adze. I even perfected it by attaching a small eccentric wheel on the front shoe of the plane , so as you moved along it would raise and lower the convex blade in and out of the wood. Looked GREAT!
Thanks. Great idea!
Smart!!!!!!!
I was thinking Lou "Tips for a Shipwright" when you mentioned him, he certainly knows how to set a plane up and use it and he is just starting a new project. I love the way craftsmen support each other and the cross pollination of your channels is a wonderful thing, hats off to you.
Yes! I got so excited when I saw that notification 😁
Lou was my first thought as well, I’ve never seen a guy take a handheld power plane to a level such a level of finesse
So happy Lou is back posting content!
I thought of Lou when I saw this title !
I started with solid blade planers,I was really pleased when the replaceable blades came along. For the last twenty years I have only had cheap planers, I must buy a good one sometime.... Or buy one like Lou’s and do his mods !
I have that exact same Makita 1900B that is 30 years old, to align the blades you need a special alignment tool that Makita still sells, including new blades, crazy can still get spare parts for it. I still use the planer to make surfboards so don't need to change blades often. If anyone is looking for a dust collector attachment for it, I posted a 3D printer file on thingiverse for it.
Have used it to fix a sub floor seam at a job site that got wet and swelled. Love this tool. Great video.
Thanks Scott
Thank you for the straightforward, casual, non product promotional chat. My skills are advanced handyman and it is so tiring sifting through the rambling, self promoting, chevy vs ford youtube "professional" videos when I'm just trying to glean solid facts. I look forward to running across your indepth review.
When you started to talk about a guy who really knows how to use a power planer I immediately thought of Lou; you did not disappoint.
Man, thank you so much for this. I should have started my project with a planer. Ah next time but at least I can clean it up now, better later than never I guess. Thank you again
“See Square!”.
You sir are a dying breed. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, it's very appreciated from me.
I was intalling flooring in Sun City for Del Webb 25 years ago. It's a tiny world.
Purchased a battery makita planer, love it.
All of us here in he comment section have probably wondered at various times "who's that guy with the pipe?"
The guy's got the best seat in the house to watch Essential Craftsman.
I bought my first and only Bosch planer a few years back, I wish that I had bought it decades earlier
I parked my truck at the end of a very narrow alley and walked in to get the last tarp full of ivy-cuttings on a job requiring carpentry, painting, plumbing, dirt-removal, ivy-removal and stone-setting. As I returned I saw that all my tools were gone...my knees actually buckled and I almost fell to the ground as I realized I had just lost my ability to feed my family and couldn't afford to buy new tools. The years it took to accumulate those tools...it wasn't just tools that were gone, it was friends who had suffered along with me through countless hours of mental and physical straining.
I remember the good old days in school when we had wood shop class, the plane was the first tool we were assigned, and the first thing we learned was how to take them apart and sharpen them. They’re just old friends now.
Yea those were the days man. If they still had things like that for kids now days I feel like society would be a lot different.
Funny that you mentioned Lou. When you said "if you want to see someone who knows..." I immediately thought of him. I'm super happy that he's back and coming out with a new series soon.
Can you post the link to his first series, I can’t find it
@@jesseclark7657 this is a link to his playlists: ruclips.net/user/TipsfromaShipWrightplaylists
Season 1 is building the work skiff which you will find there. I posted the playlists because he has a lot of interesting stuff on it.
We just built a set of cabinets fine tuned the miters on large raised panel banks that wrapped using a Makita power planer. We usually lay down painters tape and plane to the tape helps get it exact belt sander is another go to
Love that you shouted out Lou! He's just starting his next build.
Very good point. Avoid the planners with the small blades as well. Aligning the blades on those models can be such a pain. These are super loud!! I lost a neighbor due to this tool. Hahaha. I'm not kidding I'm not making this up.
Ear and eye protection are an absolute must. As well as Finger protection. These will also create a lot of chips/shavings. Normally the dust collection bags get in the way or make the application a bit akward. It really depends on the project. A hose from your shop vac can Also be a bit akward at times but I find it easier to use. One last thing, careful with the cord! One Of my guys wasn't careful And he shredded that cord not too long ago. Nailed it when you mentioned how Easy it is to shave too deep. Overall, a great tool. Can Be intimidating at first sight but Easy to use. The unit should be engaged off the work piece.
Its nice to hear someone who know what they are talking about and knows the correct terminology for the industry.
Great tool to own.Just did a job with,and worked great.
Awesome tool. When I installed laminate countertops I was taught how to use one to scribe the back edge to fit wavy walls. As long as they weren't dipping in and out a ton every 10 inches you could really dial in a wavy wall profile just by rocking the tool back and forth or in and out as you plane along the back side or wall edge of countertop. Together with a belt sander here and there you can't go wrong. Some guys just jigsaw everything but never felt like that was as precise.
Good overview, never thought about using one in the framing process until now!
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I'm on my 2nd Bosch planner only because my first one was stolen as well. For a few $ more you can get that hard case. But if not just stow it in a dedicated tool bag. Did a large trim job with a lot of radius window walls, used a makita power planner with an adjustable concave foot plate.
Bless you, and the folks who comment on your posts. Just a wealth of knowledge and experience. Thanks.
Given that most if not all of us have cordless drill and rattle gun, it makes good sense to get the cordless planer from the same maker. Often when you need a plane it is for a small work job, so the trade off of battery life against running a power cord is not such an issue, and you can be sure that when you do need a planer you're two floors up, working in the corner and you'd need 3 cables joined together!
I'm pretty much wedded to hitachi, and their planer is really good so it was an easy choice. In Britain, a "bare unit" without battery is £100-£150, probably the dollar price is the same, so it really is a no-brainer. Only trouble is, that nice mains powered planer will probably never see daylight again
I was just about to leave a comment about Lou, and how he sets up his Ryobi power plane and you mentioned him as I was writing, that guy is amazing! As are you !
Yea i bought a bosch power plain i made sure the one i bought came in a hard case which it does, it also has a neat feature of a spring block on the bottom so if it were to fall over the plain underside and blades are off the ground, it is the best tool I've ever brought.
Lou @ shipwright is an awesome guy, I'm instantly interested in his knowledge and ability to capture in video.
I have to agree with other commentors that a human powered hand plane is still an invaluable tool in a furniture/detail oriented wood shop. A lot of times they are the best tool for flattening something with very minor imperfections because they don't require you to put on PPE and clean up a bunch of chips. You might save a few minutes of actually working the wood, but you lose those gains fooling with all of the other stuff tied up in using a power tool.
You and Lou hanging out is like my dream chat with two elders
I have a 1594 Bosch that looks almost identical only has two blades, bag, fence and a blown box to keep it in. I plane doors with it regularly and it works a charm.
I recently watched an episode of Mr. Chickadee that was the other end of the spectrum from this. I really enjoy the contrast.
My older DeWalt plane rides in my work bus all the time and is used quite frequently in my remodeling/deck building business. Safely stored in it's original steel box!
Thanks for all the videos and practical teaching you provide on this channel.
Home schooling the kids. They are getting a full/useful edacation.
You are a part of there curriculum.
Super idea for my grand kids too😊
If any tool makers/designers read this, design a power planer to park the blade(s) inside the tool body whenever the blade is not spinning. It would protect the blade(s), and anything the planer comes into contact with. It would probably complicate changing the blades, but if the parking & blade changing functions were combined, it should be able to be made less onerous (or at least one could hope).
If it becomes a major selling feature, I would happily accept royalties. 😁
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Ive used a cordless planer to finesse joints on a roof to fit cupped twisted co members - it’s probably ott but i like everything to fit tightly
You are right! I bought one to smooth some new fence pickets for my wife's project. Glad I bought a couple extra boards. My first lesson was dont get in a hurry. Went right past my mark in a short moment. After readjusting and a little practice it was great.
I have lost many a ball and watched houses get pummeled with them at the golf course at Del Webb in Las Vegas that he speaks of.
Can confirm the wood work is genuine.
I love a good hand-plane or a good hand-saw. AS LONG as they’re sharp. When the cutting edges are tuned just right, they are a pleasure to use. Some years ago they came out with hand-saws with what they called “sharks tooth” blades. They were sharpened to cut on both the pull and push stroke. (Very difficult to re-sharpen btw)
During a little down-time, we used to have contests to see who could cut thru a piece of 2x4 in the least strokes. We had it down to about 3 strokes!
They devour their own cord as well.
Been there
Lol, that’s funny because it’s true!
Keep electrical tape or self amalgamating silicone tape (better!) handy....
Oh hell! How did you see me doing that?
It does not have scary teeth sticking out, so if you are not focused, you may just touch a spinning blade without thinking.
Did it once, luckily with a very small cordless 12V plane, that was already slowing down. I have no f. idea why I did it. Just a moment of brain-stop.
It took a small bite if my skin.
A painful lesson that you should be careful even with tools that look like a toy.
I always appreciate the quality of your discussions .. keep'em comin'! 😊👍
I have watched Lou’s videos and he sold me on a power planer and learning to us one. They are a finesse tool just like the old hand planes.
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only 782k subscribers!, this grandad is the best! He should have a million plus subscribers. Learning a TON! on every video.
I’m pretty sure my Bosch planer came in a hard case. They are good machines
I bought one of these as a complete newbie hobbyist.
Soooo so so happy I bought it. Still to this day. But back then, I could not cut anything completely by the measurements. So just cut it a few mm too big, and shave off the rest. Made it much easier.
You do the best tool review/overview videos on RUclips and I learn a lot from watching them. I would never have thought that a electric hand planer would be useful on a framing job and now it makes perfect sense. Thanks for making great videos and take care.
Oh man, are they ever useful! If you do remodeling of old houses, the studs used to be pretty janky because the plasterer would fix all the problems. If you want to put up drywall or any sort of paneling, there's a lot of planing and shimming to be done.
Thanks, thinking of buying one.
You my friend, are a very knowledgeable gentleman. I hope you and your family are doing good, and staying healthy and safe.
When you started to mention "somebody who knows how to use one" i was ready to post that Lou was, glad you mentioned him, he's a legend and artisan
To protect the blade simply, just get some wood the size of the sole plate, and attach some rubber 'bungee'
Well I bought that plane maybe 5 years ago, and it came in a hard plastic box. Mine is a model 1594, which looks like the previous iteration of you 1632. Sorry to have to tell you that. On the other hand, amen to your statement about taking lots of material in a short time. I speak from experience!
I have a big old Rockwell all aluminum power plane and I love it! I once found it the only thing I could strip a gummy finish off a hardwood floor with one time.
We use the power planes a lot fot fitting doors in the frames, fast and precise. Love this tool.
I use the cord to protect the blade. I wrap the cord in a figure of 8 around the machine and cover the blades so it is protected from jumping around in my truck.
Love your show. Thank you
Lou certainly is the master of the power-plane. He has a new series starting very soon!!
At home I just have and use hand planes, and have built work benches, picture frames, and a toddler bed successfully.
Last fall at work, I needed to build a couple workbenches out of leftover twisted roughsawn 4x6. I left the frame rough and just power planed the top flat. That tool really moved some wood! You still have to use winding sticks and straight edges to bring the whole table top flat!
However, I am discovering at home, I was getting the plane out too early. You can remove wood a lot faster using a saw, chisel, hatchet, etc first, get close to the line, then plane it smooth and to dimension.
It's a great tool for resurface old boards, fast and nice result !
Probably the most under appreciated tool out there. Before you buy one, decide if you want one that takes carbide blades or HSS. Carbide stays sharper but one pass over a tiny nail and it takes a chunk off at best or snaps it in two at worst. HSS can take more abuse but needs to be sharpened and changed more often. I still prefer planers that take carbide due to the buttery smooth finish they leave.
I agree about the hard case for the planer. My bosch came with one or I made sure to get one that came with case. Either way all major guys are moving away from cases and towards mobile storage cases, including Bosch so it's not a real big deal to dedicate one of the new very convenient storage systems to your planer. I just took mine out after years primarily because I was inexperienced with it and had pretty bad results when I did. Now that I am more experienced and moving into woodworking, I'm taking another look at taking care of mine properly and using it again. Thanks for helpful info.
I have have the 2 blade version and it came in a plastic case. I keep several sets of HSS blades and the leveling fixture in the case. Once you are set up, sharpening the blades is no big issue...unless you get a deep nick/chip. I do recommend the HSS blades.
I could watch these videos every day, always learning something here. Thanks
I have the same Makita power plane. Sits in the box for long stretches. When I need it, it's ready. As you noted, it eats wood at a furious pace. I usually have it set for 0.5ml. A couple passes is generally all I need. Any more depth and the workpiece can disappear in a shower of flakes! Keep up the good work.
Lou started his first full RUclips boat build when I started training as a traditional wooden boatbuilder. He was a vast inspiration/resource and was even kind enough to reply to my messages. A true wizard with the power plane!
Not sure if you've ever heard of the Perkins Builder Brothers Channel here on RUclips, Jamie got his fingers in his Powermatic jointer couple weeks ago. They've been doing update videos on him.
Little while back they did a review on those hand planers and were showing how they use them to trim pressure treated lumber to all fit for a flat deck surface, kind of like you were taking about bowed studs. I keep thinking i need to pick one up at times, then don't need one for awhile and just never have pulled the trigger on getting one yet.
I use mine on 3-4 ply LVL. Often the height is different board to board, and sometimes end to end. Eliminates humps and squeeks in subfloor
Huh, I'm surprised. I haven't worked with LVL, but I'd have though that it would be more consistent than regular sawn lumber.
I won't profess to the the expert, but I will point out that Bosch makes a slighter better planer than the one displayed here. Model PL2632K. It has a few benefits over the lesser model. 1. It has a chip chute on BOTH sides. 2. It has a dual blade system that can be swapped for a high speed steel blade set you can sharpen as opposed to the carbide which doesn't sharpen easily or tolerate nail strikes very well. 3. It comes with a hard case!
I'm putting this here because I almost bought the lesser model without realizing the other model even existed. I've been happy with mine. I am a little disappointed with how gouged up the platen is already. The aluminum is too soft. Even wood seems yp scratch it.
Bosch has a lot of planers, but unfortunately, like their drill press, the current lineup is not up to snuff, regardless of the color scheme or letter play. It just does not work out for Bosch. And don't get me wrong, i'm a Bosch fanboy, normally, but after trying their entire line up from hobby to prosumer to pro, i bought a Hitachi (from before the merger) and got on with it. Will mention that i had an old beam planer from Hitachi, the kind with bevel gear drive, so there's no real "smart" decision, it's just that it was better than what Bosch offered and what Makita had at the time.
The little red spring loaded bumper in the rear of the tool is supposed to allow you to set it flat on a table. It springs down to hold the base up just a bit and keep the knife from touching the surface of the table top. Won't save you in a job box but helps on the bench.
I like the Bosch for finish work and the chip chute can be switched to either side by turning a slide. The high speed gives a nice finish to the cut.
Glad to hear you give Louis a shoutout; Tips From A Shipwright is a great channel to watch, and a fantastic education resource!
“When you need a power plane…” Yep. Nothing else would have helped us.
The front wall of my house had pulled away (long story; previous owners) and pulled the living room floor down a couple inches.
We didn’t have the wherewithal to jack up the house, so after securing everything, we leveled the floor with 4x4 sheets of plywood that we had to make into giant wedges. The only tool for that … is the power plane, and it worked like a charm.
No problem there, only solutions😊
I still have the old Bosh planer, it works great and spends most of the time with all it’s fittings in the original hard plastic box. Like you stated when you need it You Need it. 👍
I still have, (and use) Dad’s 1970 HolzHer power planer, it’s an absolute beast, it sounds like a rolls Royce Merlin engine when you start it up, and it removes a LOT of wood easily. I reckon I’ll cry when it eventually dies.
I've owned the Bosch one for a while, but I finally got a M18 cordless one and I LOVE it! Made a bunch of sister joists perfectly flush with the AC one, but every other time I reach for one I reach for the cordless.
Within the area of the house that you record these videos, I can't help but notice that massive glue-lam running long through the wall over your right shoulder. Scott, we talked about this, and I'm counting on you to create more fascinating content by pulling out your 36" chainsaw to flush cut that bad boy...and maybe clean it up with the Bosch planer. Keep up the good work! Steve Milovich
I was fixing up houses for years before I got a power plane and now I don't know what I'd do without one. As you say they are the go to tool for certain jobs and do something no other tool can really help with well. I only got one because someone gave me it because they had destroyed the blades and couldn't replace them.
this dude should be hosting Jeopardy...for real...
I never knew how nice these would be on the job site until a few years ago when we had to replace every window sill & drip cap in an 1800s house that had been hacked up by some fly-by-night aluminum siding installer in the 1970s. The planer made forming the cedar boards to match the original profiles go so much faster.
thanks interesting as always
It was great to see the siding going up at the end. Looking forward to that episode.
Hello Sr. My name is Daniel, I’m a big fan of your RUclips and I learned a lot from your videos and I’m just starting I’m a first stage apprentice from the carpenter union my you make a video about how to use the 3,4,5 rule to square a layout line to make it perpendicular line.
I have a bunch of them (shipwright), couple 6” makitas, spiral Stanley, 3 or 4 big box store brands. I do not like the thin carbide blades, never as sharp as one I can sharpen. Stanley has a sharpener for the spiral, it is my go to for edge grain, the 6” have a half carbide blades, one is harder than the other and takes long time to sharpen. I also use the 6” to put a flat on a log to then mill it, works good. I make a 12” but have never used one, must be heavy as hell.
One of those almost devoured my finger.
I was tired and in a time crunch and the weather was threatening rain and it was a newer version of the Makita. I was using my hand to block the shavings from blowing into a building as I was fitting a door in place. Sliced into my finger 3 times. Cleaned it, wrapped it with ducktape and went on to the next job framing a house in the pooring rain for a week.
Hi there I've made a shoe for my plan from a peace of pine flooring with a small lip around the edge and tied up with an old boot lace which also holds the power cord.. Mine is an old bosh and it's not used often but it's earned it's keep in the van
Nice tool may it serve you well, Great video Stay safe
Thanks!
I've aways had a power plan when I framed. I've all used it for planning studs to strengthen wall before drywall. Also good to have when you side and finish
I use a lot of recycled timber for projects, so there's a lot of tweaking of dimensions. The power plane I have is a cheap brand, but for what I use it for, it does the job. I'm not making furniture, most projects are things like a chicken coop, or a dog house, or a small office inside one of the sheds, and the power plane gets a workout regularly. There is a time to break out the beautiful hand tools, but also a time to do things to a more coarse tolerance.
Thanks you!
I have a makita kp0810 planer and I keep the rebate guide covering blades to protect them in the tool box
not often i recommend a ryobi but i think their design is one of the best for these.
Surfboard shapers use power planes to shape foam before putting on fiberglass
Thanks
EC tool videos! These are great 👍.. the simplicity of these videos are what makes them so wonderful
I have that one! So freaking handy! For so many things! I know a guy that used a Makita one to shave down steel beams once.