JUDGE SENTENCES MONSTROUS MOM!
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I've known many addicts throughout my life, and none of them sold their children for their addiction. That's a deep seated moral flaw, not her drug addiction.
Thank you! This POS blaming it all on her addiction is lying. As sick or as high as I ever got during my active use, I never sold myself let alone a CHILD. It is vile and disgusting. And the addiction is not the problem. SHE is the problem. The drugs just helped embolden her to what she was already thinking. Vile.
100%
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I agree with you. As a recovering from self abuse and drugs. I was asked once if I would give pictures of my two young girls in bras and panties. They told me they had me and I would do anything they asked. I walked out of there and never went back. Hadn’t seen or heard from him again. Been sober for almost four years. I love my children more than I love the drugs. Thank you. Blessings Be to all children.
@@kathydavenport4422 Congratulations on your recovery 😊💜
Why is she crying ? Oh yeah for herself . No sympathy for her absolutely zero
She's still not taking any accountability... just making excuses. Trying to blame drugs.
I asked the same question “ummmmm ma’am, why are YOU crying…?”
They cry because they are bad, probably a narcissists
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Because she got caught and will now face consequences.
I am sick and tired of people blaming drugs for a crime. They chose to take the drugs, therefore they are responsible for their own actions.
DAMN RIGHT!
Exactly!
The defense attorney needs to do his job, but I agree she was not on drugs 24 hours a day, she made a choice. Second treatment should be offered in jail if it is not, so she can get treatment as she is being punished.
Totally my friend! I’m actually detoxing very badly from opiates and benzos right now. As terrible as I’m feeling, as crazy as it’s driving me, I could never act so unaccountable for the behavior my addiction caused me to do. For a long time I felt very ashamed for what I’ve gotten myself into; but once you accept and OWN IT, it feels great! Because that’s when someone can truly find wonderful recovery and improve! Hoping to get into recovery ASAP myself. Not going to let drugs win or rule my life. I love my family and friends too much, and being numb to the world has lost its appeal. I truly want to live life 🥲
People choose to become drug addicts. It. Is. A. Choice!
From the moment a person decides to "try" drugs, they are aware what the possible risks are and still partake.
Those same people choose what actions they will or will not do to feed their addictions... again... it is a choice.
As an addict, it makes me SICK when people blame their horrible actions on their addiction. This wasn’t just ONE bad mistake one night while she was high. This was ongoing. I’ve been high and desperate as hell and the thought of letting anyone touch MY kids to assist MY own selfish behavior NEVER ONCE crossed my mind. The fact that she blames it all on the drugs is disgusting. People like her are evil and beyond selfish
Bless you
I'm so glad I read this. As someone who hasn't battled addiction I don't feel open to speak on the topic, however using your addiction as an excuse for your poor parenting is beyond my comprehension. I hope you are happy and healthy ❤
Through all my years of addiction, I could never imagine doing something that involved harming someone else, especially a child! I know all too well the desperation of needing money or that fix, but not at the expense of another human being. That poor child, or children as it seems there's more than one, to have to live knowing their mother did this to them. I hope and pray they are with people who love and support them, and they are getting the counseling they need to healthily cope with the hideous actions of those monsters.
Right? I was an addict who did so many things I wasn’t proud of…. None of them ever involving my kids… like addiction can lead people to do things they normally wouldn’t…. But it doesn’t make you a total monster. You have to be a monster in general to do those things while addicted.
I also am a former addict and I NEVER would even think of doing something this vile. NEVER.
I’m a retired LEO & was a Sgt Det. I have seen & dealt w monstrous people like this. I retired in 09 & still have nightmares from those cases involving kids. This woman should never see daylight again.
Can you explain the sentence to me. How many years did she get? Example 12-40 what does that mean?
@@Nina-tc9gw Usually means she must serve a minimum of 12 years but not more than 40 years. Then the warden/parole board decide when she can be paroled or set free with supervision sometime after 12 years but before 40 years. Make sense?
@@sixxygrrl yes, thank you very much!
Thank you so much for all that you've endured in order to protect and serve the community. May you and your family be blessed. ❤❤
Thank you for bearing the scars of the evil you fought to protect the rest of us. I am forever grateful to the men and women, like yourself, who choose to be brave enough to fight this fight for us! Much respect!!
Mom didn't steal or sell herself for drugs. She left that to her daughter. No excuse can absolve her. There truly are monsters in human form that exist. I don't understand why she wasn't given a life sentence. Her daughter has!
10000%!!! I'm a recovering addict. I never got to the point where I had to sell. My own body for drugs however it's very common and really sad but she could have done that...she could have sold her own body not her child!!! Infuriating
OMG She is the worst. She should be gone
So yes mom is a monster, she should never be allowed to see those kids again, and yes she should have to sit in prison for a long time... Saying that to say this..hard drugs change the makeup of people especially morphine, heroin, benzos. Those drugs take every ounce of good away from the user and you do whatever to get the next fix, because your physically and mentally the drugs slave. The better the drug the quicker and harder the sickness hits you. It's still not an excuse not even close. It's just an explanation why she did what she did.
Someone told me this a couple years back and it's a 1000% true... He said an alcoholic will steal your wallet and return it with an excuse, crack heads will take the change out of your change out of the couch cushions,, a heroin addict will steal your wallet and help you look for it.
@@davidcashell4860I’ve done the hardest of drugs for DECADES and yes, they DO in fact alter the brain, BUT NOT TO THAT EXTREME!!!! I’m convinced that anyone willing to sell their child to a pervert was never a decent human being to begin with.
She is a terrible person, she is a monster, the abuse of the children is inexcusable, addicted or not.
She ruined her husband’s life also. Who knows what a father is capable of when he knows his daughter’s innocence and trust was ripped away?
Dad’s anger and actions may seem reasonable. But dad was no saint in either. The abuse went on for a long time, dad did nothing to get daughter away to safe place knowing moms addiction and unsafe environment daughter was living in. They were still married until last year. He was caught up with his own demons and legal issues.
The dad doesn't appear to be a Saint, he actually may have been an RSO himself and in jail thru some of this if I'm reading the story right. Then again it also says he tried and that CPS knew this was happening or at least likely to be happening and told the mom that she'd face this kind of penalty- but they didn't remove the child. He's even cooperating in another unrelated case according to the article as part of his plea deal. Definitely not the best character references but even if I despise the rest, if the system failed to do the appropriate thing after being given ample opportunity and even acknowledged what was happening on some level then at what point is it not justified or even morally just that he ended it once and for all? Guy may not deserve a parade but there is plenty to differentiate him from a petty vigilante.
The dad is already a better parent than the mother was for the young child!
@@alexkitner5356What is an RSO? I know it means something different than what I know that abbreviation to mean.
@@Creative-Chaos Registered S.. Offender. Not sure if RUclips is gonna filter the second word. The same status as the 'victims' of his actions... so bad guy but CPS literally knew she was letting this guy and the other that was lucky he wasn't home at the time dad came calling, pay her to watch her kids. They knew it was happening, knew she was getting paid for it, must have had some understanding that she was abusing hard drugs, even told mommy there that if she continued she'd face this sentence. If they're telling someone that what they're doing is worthy of 40 years in prison but just saying "don't do it anymore" that's a pretty weak response. Frankly criminal in my opinion, but they didn't remove a 6yo girl that they had reason to believe was basically being prostituted. Mommy didn't just pick a bad babysitter, she actively sold her daughter to these predators and CPS chose to do nothing. If dad had finished up with her case worker I'm not sure I'd feel that bad about it- so I certainly won't lose sleep over what dad did to that other garbage.
Dads a fucking hero
Not really he should've been out there to protect his kids the first time. Retribution does nothing to protect those children or undo what was done to them.
No way. Why on Earth would he have ever allowed his children with this drug addict Mom? Then he destroys his own life, taking himself away from his daughter. Too Much, and too Late.
Dad sounds like a hero.
Exactly!!
If he were a hero, he wouldn't have been in jail the first time when it was happening to his kids
She is an evil person who needs to be locked up forever.
What did she end up getting?
She didn't sell herself for drugs , she sold her child 😢😢😢 life in jail for this monster !!!!!
She "sold" her kids for drugs WTF throw the whole book at this woman I can't watch no more 🤬
That poor father of those children. He will spend the rest of his life in prison for killing those men that this mother allowed to abuse the child. Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
❤ Praying he comes home soon ❤❤
She deserves life in prison. Not the poor dad .
What is this all about?
@@cherylbglover I found the story she sold her kids for drugs.. little girl got raped beat on... by a known rapist dad found out killed 2 of the men tried to kill the other one and her.. truly sad story
@debranelson7214 the mom allowed a man to abuse her kids because he gave her money. She left them with him to babysit and when one of them told her, she ignored the child. Bio dad was in jail at the time and when he got out, he killed the guy. Now he's in prison for life.
She has the chance to recover but her daughter doesn't.
Very well said. Very.
It's absolutely insane to blame drugs for being a lousy Mother.
I have six kids and me and their father both relapsed and were using IV fentanyl and cocaine... so it wasn't just a minor problem. As bad as I was though, there is no way in hell that I would ever let anyone hurt my kids like that.
I understand that my addiction hurt them and that I was not being a good mom, but what she did was way beyond drug addiction. She has to have serious personality issues to be able to do that.
Then to be in court trying to make excuses for what she did.. is even more disgusting.
If an addict does something minor or Petty while on the drugs I can see blaming the drugs at least to a degree while also holding the person responsible saying well. You shouldn't have done this, but this is beyond the pale
@@awkwardautistic I 💯 agree
I believe this is a bit more than just lousy
@@omgbrytt you're absolutely right
I’ve seen a lot of shows with severely addicted people and most the time they only hurt their loved ones by stealing items, stealing money, and emotionally. She traded her child’s innocence and trust for drugs. No excuse.
agreed!
I've personally known a lot of severely addicted people and not one of them ever felt compelled to s*x traffic their children. Not gonna say they were all model parents, but the heinous shit this thing did goes way beyond "drugs made me do it".
And ensured an adulthood riddled with pain and and obsticles to overcome that most people could never understand.
There is no excuse for selling your children for drugs. Anyone who thinks so should be on a list.
Right this is fucking insane....
So sad what happened to dad. I know it's wrong, but the rage he must have felt knowing what those evil men did to his little girls was obviously too much to bear 😢
This poor girl has lost the only parent that cares about her 😪 "mom" needs to stay in jail forever.
@@bobbiec2829 Absolutely!
@minniegirl175 I don't have children, but have quite a few nieces and nephews. If they were sexually assaulted, in all honesty, I would have taken whomever did that off the planet without remorse, hesitation, nor regret. If I had been on the jury for the father, I wouldn't honestly have been able to uphold my oath as a juror. I wouldn't be able to convict. I would be wrong for doing so, but I would be able to live with it without losing sleep. This is just a grotesque case that shall follow the lives of the children forever more. Saddens my soul.
She should get out when her kids get their innocence back.
Yes👏👏👏👏👏
Way to go Dad! We need to put money on his books
I will whenever I can save up some money if someone points me in the right direction.
The Dads name is Christopher Lee-Ryan Carden and he’s in Michigan if anyone feels like contributing to his honey bun fund!
@@OneBadAssMoMoThanks 😊
@@OneBadAssMoMo
Thanks for the info@
If dad went to jail for dealing with the situation then mom should never leave jail for causing it. I understand this attorney has a job to do but no.
He did 😢
Exactly!
Agree
Correct me if I’m wrong. But the father essentially walked in on three people committing horrendous crimes against his kids, he then shot each one of them. Two died one lived? And they sent him to jail for that? And if so how long of a jail/prison term did he get?
I don’t know but I have no criticism for dad at all
What she did is beyond belief. I can’t imagine ANY mother doing this to her child. Throw away the key.
There are a lot of mothers doing that, they just haven't been caught as yet. They sell or trade their kids for a high. You have mothers that know their child is getting touched, by moms boyfriend, but instead of protecting their child, they either blame the child or call them liars. Some people don't deserve to be parents at all.
The prosecutors feel so strongly about this case.
As they should. I was even tearing up after hearing this.
The prosecutors have been closely involved with her daughter for several years by now. After watching a child grow up like that, it must feel almost as if they're your relative or something. It's going to drive you harder to get justice for them.
@@norarivkis2513 agreed. It was good to see how much they cared
Ugh she was fully aware of the exchanges of her children and what she got in return! She’s not a mother or a human being her actions are disgusting and horrifying and I hope she gets the book thrown at her. Those children will never be allowed to live their lives in anyway normal and that’s what is so upsetting to me in this case.😢
She is a mother and a human being. She may be a despicable mother, and a disgusting person, but that doesn't mean she is inhuman. Dehumanizing evil people (or people we disagree with) is a dangerous road that leads to justifying hideous acts.
I mean, the book got thrown at her. In this very video, which you are commenting on hoping she gets the book thrown at her......
glad it wasn't just me lol. What a bot comment that was.@@morganmalott1041
Yes, the attorney is saying she would be a great mom if not for that pesky drug habit.
@@morganmalott1041Do you feel better now?
I'm even more gobsmacked by this footage after reading up on this case. It wasn't just that this woman sold her daughter to p*dos once, which would be horrific enough. She did it for THREE YEARS. A 12 year sentence is a steal. Hopefully someone can explain why she wasn't charged/convicted of trafficking
And the fact that I watch parole hearing daily. 12 years means 6 maybe. Especially for women.
She got 17 to 54 years. Not 12, 12 was just for one count.
@@savannahrobb986 That's good to know, thank you.
The daughter stated that she had been abused from the age of four to the age of 11.
@@botticellirejectbotticelli2668 jfc
Mom's atty is dead wrong in stating that it was "not what mom DID but what she did NOT do" That mother actively arranged these horrific encounters with her children and these pedos ! When she was in need of drug $ she actively got on the phone, arranged for these creeps to come to her home, she actively had her daughters available to these pedos, she provided the place for these heinous acts to take place. Mom was the coordinator of all of this !! She did not find out after the fact, she is the reason it happened. God bless those victims. !
So is this just the sentencing to an earlier video? I thought this case sounded familiar from awhile ago.
At plea hearing her atty couldn’t look her in the eye (11/8/23 on court YT channel). He was disgusted too, but was doing his job. Atty tried to withdraw and he would be unable to be her attorney if she went to trial.
@@North_West1 I can't imagine how... soiled these attorneys must feel defending some of these heinous MFers.
That same god that created this horrible situation?
@@jackyhun7579 No, the other God
LIFE IS MADE OF CHOICES! SHE USED HER CHILDREn AS CURRENCY
the poor kids dad snapped when he heard what the mother had done to his little girl, and killed the abusers, but missed Two.....its a shame he didnt get the woman who gave birth to the victim and mr black. i respect his actions, he did the right thing. he removed his daughters obligation to relive her abuse during lengthy trials, he did what id have done in his position. he did the only selfless act that poor kid experienced. Every other adult in her life used her as a thing, including the woman who gave birth to her.
The father killed the child molesters? Shit in my opinion he shouldn’t be in prison, he freed his daughter from abuse.
Fully agree with you , the dad is a real dad and protected his daughter no matter the cost to himself , he should not be in jail , he should be with his kids doing what he does best , protecting and fulling his kids full of life and love
That your local Democrat for giving criminals more rights than parents
@@FoulPetor people that committed high treason, but if a dad dishes out actual justified actions he gets punished harder…
@@FoulPet and I bet you voted for pedo trump😂
@@FoulPetWow, that was some seriously ignorant crap you just spouted. 😂😂 But thanks for showing us so clearly that you can be ignored.
What she needs is life in prison.
What she needs is a short drop and a quick stop.
Your kids don’t get a second chance.
What she did to those children can never be fixed. She ripped their childhood from them and they will require therapy to cope. This is atrocious, horrifying and inhumane, so paaa-lease take responsibility and don't blame it on the drug addiction because if she hadn't been caught, it would still be happening.
YES!
Yep!
Correct, if America gave a shit about health care there is a possibility none of this would have happened if we got this person the help they needed prior to the addiction getting the point it did.
Respect to the Father.
I don't know why the Mom is crying, look what she put her daughter through.
Because hadn't nothing changed, it's still all about her what a monster.😡
Agree she's crying for herself no sympathy EVIL monster
I don't understand this point of view. I feel that anyone, regardless of their past behavior, regardless of how remorseful or not they are, would have an emotional reaction to being told that the next 12-40 years of their life are, for all intents and purposes, gone. What does her reaction to that information have to do with anything else? What do you feel is the appropriate reaction? I am not condoning a single thing that took place in this case, it is absolutely horrendous - I just never understand people's reaction to defendants' emotions during sentencing.
@@BVM84 I don't feel for her at all and when she was crying, it's because she was having to go to prison. She wasn't crying for what she let happen to her daughter. Do you understand now?
@@hoosierladyus48 I wasn't referring to feeling for her or not feeling for her, and I agree that her emotional reaction was due to learning what her sentence would be. My question is what you and others feel the appropriate/expected reaction to that is? Regardless of any other details or circumstances surrounding the situation, she just learned that the next 12 to 40 years of her life are over. I expect most anyone would be very upset/emotional in that situation, which is why I don't understand why people believe the reaction is inappropriate. Her offenses are absolutely inappropriate, that is not at issue here. I am referring specifically to her reaction to her sentence.
My wife and I, both now in our 60’s, rescued three grand children from their drug addicted parents 11 years ago and have been their full legal guardians ever since. The oldest is now 23 and the twins are about to turn 17. What this mother did to that girl was pure evil but I want to know why nobody stepped in earlier to rescue her.
This may be multigenerational. And the laws are set up to cut out almost everyone from having any power to help. Some states give grandparents some rights, but siblings, Aunts and Uncles, and even LE are almost completely unable to do anything. Needs to change.
I have almost 17 yrs sober. I was on heroin. I understand that monkey on your back. I don’t understand why that somehow makes it ok to sell your children for drugs. I don’t understand how a mother could knowingly allow her daughter near known SO’s. She knew what they were going to do to that poor girl. It’s disgusting! She needs life in prison. Being a drug addict is no excuse for this sick crap!
Congratulations on 17 years. I'm at 5 1/2 years off opiates. We just have to take it day by day. But as a fellow addict who doesn't know you, I am very proud of you. Heroin is a horrible drug to detox from. You put in the work and have the reward of 17 years! So proud of you.
Congrats! 17 years here too, free from the big H!
I agree with everything you say. There are NO excuses at all!
Congratulations to all of you here on your hard earned freedom from addiction!
And 1000% it is no excuse for this.
I truly cannot believe her attorney thought even asking for release was a good idea
Her attorney previously attempted to withdraw. In previously told her he would not represent her if she took the case to trial.
@ 7:53 "After having spent the last 540 some-odd days in jail, she's PROBABLY drug free". I would hope so, but who knows anymore?
I caught that too. It makes me think he doesn’t believe she’s sober. I wonder if one or more of the times he met with her,she was high
From what I read and hear, never having been in jail myself, drugs are readily available.
Probably not tbh
My brother spent most of his adult life in prison. He always said it's easier to get drugs in prison, than on the street.
"She was gripped by an addiction.".No, SHE decided to take drugs and excess alcohol, addiction is not a person that forces anyone to take drugs and she caused the addiction.
Yes and no. Some people are born addicts in a very real sense, but are still responsible for their actions, including drug use.
@@nosuchanimal No people are not born addicts but weak characters.
@@adoculos4521 Nah, addiction is a disease, not a moral defect. People can 100% choose not to drink or do drugs, but they can't choose not to have the ability to become addicted.
@@bluedragonfly8139 Total rubbish and you sound like a addict.
Many people who make the choice to try a drug don't understand how powerful some of modern drugs are. A teenager often doesn't have the experience, education, or physical development to fully appreciate the consequences. It's not an excuse or absolution or minimizing the harm caused, it's the way it is.
I was lucky that my mother taught me very young about the danger of drugs, and that I respected her enough to be afraid of disappointing her at 14. Many of my friends were not. They weren't evil, they were young and naive and more rebellious and not fully developed humans. Some of them got lucky and avoided the worst consequences, some didn't.
She should have checked in rehab if she cared at all for the children. It's ridiculous that her drug problem is now "a problem" because she's facing charges. When someone chooses to continue drugs over being a parent to the life they brought into this world, that's neglect on its own. I'm so tired of hearing the drug abuse excuse smfh.. 🙄
People seem to think using drugs is CLASSY. To me, more people are doing drugs because other people are using drugs. Years ago people had ACTUAL addictions.
she sat there shocked which shows she had no true remorse for her actions nor felt it was that serious.
This case intrigued me enough to research further. I cannot believe that this beast of a breeder had six children!! I just finished reading the Michigan Court of Appeals terminating parental rights and it is appalling what traumas this breeder permitted to have been inflicted on her children! I am so relieved to read the foster families all adopted the designated children in the end. Great job, OSG, regarding your trimming the video. It wasn't 'choppy' at all.
So, do you support birth control and abortion? Because otherwise, your use of ‘this breeder’ is highly offensive. This situation is exactly why those two things should be legal and easily accessed.
@@justkiddin84 Well, of course I fully support both methods of control. This world is overpopulated as it is, which is why I am child-free. For God's sakes!! Personally, I couldn't care less if anyone is offended by mere words.
Anybody, who stands by and lets a child be abused, is worse than the perpetrator. Especially, if you’re the mother. There is no excuse, I don’t care if you fear for your own life, you protect your children. That’s your job!
Not worse, the same. It’s the worst thing there is.
Exactly she's the enabler & without this MONSTER it would not have happened
Addiction is no excuse when you choose not to get treatment.
She most certainly is a bad person
If your selling your children's innocence I don't want to hear A damn thing about her drug problems, how bad they must be or how hard HER life is! Her attorney sent me through the roof with that garbage!
Thank you for not sharing the victim's impact statement on RUclips. She deserves her privacy. Mom deserves every minute in prison that the judge gives her. Mom is not the victim here.
Being a drug addict is no excuse for what she did. And her trying to get a minimum sentence is disgusting, she only talked about herself and how it affected her and how SHE lost everything. Throw her away
She choose drugs over her kids...she belongs in prison!!!
21:40 I love that the judge took the time to address the victim
I pray that all the mothers she is incarcerated with for different crimes give her the justice she truly deserves.
You pray? Well, don't bother praying to Jesus. That guy is notorious for advocating forgiveness. Better go directly to his dad, who is one vindictive asshole.
Her drug addiction cannot be solely blamed. I was an addict and I know a lot of addicts. No one stoops as low as that mother unless they already have a seed of evil in them. Addicts sometimes steal, prostitute themselves, etc. but not without that rot already in their souls. This is 100% on her! Her selfishness set this whole fiasco in motion.
💯 %%% agree!!
Don't try to front as an addict. If you were one you'd know that once an addict, always an addict. You are in recovery or active addiction and you should know that addiction is never something that can be referred to in the past tense.
Saying someone has a seed of evil in them in is counter to everything a person can learn in recovery. You may be sober but you, actually, have the rot in your soul.
We appear to have an NA Nazi in the house. Sorry, wrong answer. the failure rate for 12 step programs is 92%. They clearly do not work for more than 9 out of 10 people. Hell, my brother used to meet new drug connects at NA meetings, ffs. And many people are able to defeat their addictions and move on to an addiction free life. @@AktionPak
Absolutely
@@AktionPak false! 12 step programs have a 92% failure rate. I know many people who have beaten addiction without 12 steppin'
I’m in recovery. Almost 7 years. I have a child. She is my reason to wake up in the morning and stay sober. She is the reason I breathe. As a mother and someone who understands addiction I will never understand this. You carried that child in your womb and birthed them. They are literally a part of you in every sense of the word. How could you hurt them in such a horrific way? I hope as she gets more time and sobriety under her belt. She starts seeing things more clearly. I hope she understands the gravity of what she did to her child and that pain eats and devours her. I would never be able to forgive this. I pray her child find peace and healing. She has no right no cry. Those tears aren’t for her child. They are for herself. As someone who has been inside prison, the woman in there won’t tolerate that behavior either. Just like the men don’t. Her time spent in jail will be miserable as it should be.
You know, I just finished updating myself on the Shanda Vander Ark case last night and I really wasn't prepared for this today. Heartbreaking.
THERE IS NEVER AN EXCUSE FOR CHILD ABUSE/ ALLOWING CHILD ABUSE !!!!! KEEP HER IN JAIL & GOD BLESS THE CHILDREN
"I've learned my lesson? "
This isn't "oops, I stole something priced under $10" or "I ate my coworkers lunch".
Father did what he did for his children is self defense. Self defense is protecting yourself or others from harm. He did that not only for his children but future victims. If the creep had got off, there would have been others.
I'm sure I'll be the odd one out here, but I disagree. I understand the motivations behind why he did what he did. But he didn't do it to protect anyone. He did it for himself. She wasn't in imminent danger. He let his emotions overwhelm his rational mind. It didn't make his daughter any safer. In fact, I would argue it made her less safe. Now, the only parent who could have protected her isn't able to do anything. Now, she's truly alone in the world. Again, I understand why he reacted the way he did. But instead of comforting his daughter, he chose to act on his anger. It takes a lot more strength to put your emotions aside and be strong for your child.
I didn’t get the whole story of what the father did. So essentially he walked in on his kids being abused and he shot and killed the attackers(2of3). Why exactly did he receive jail time then?
If he walked in on the act in progress a self defense argument could be made. But on the other hand if he learned about the acts and shot them out of rage it is well within the realm of temporary insanity. Unlike the mother, who's poor excuse was drugs, in the instance of temporary insanity, it is arguable, and in my opinion reasonable to say that his thought process was inhibited enough where he is not liable, or at least not wholly for his actions.
I understand why he did it, but two wrongs dont make a right. @@mpettway6982
The father, without a single doubt, saved other children from being SA by these men. Full Stop.
She didn't get enough time.
The children was the victims not the mother or the drug abuser mom ! Prayers for babys
She doesn’t deserve the title of mother or mom.
I don’t understand people that write “prayers for babies” or something like that. You didn’t actually go and pray for them. And prayer does nothing in the first place. What is the point of writing it?
Rot in prison !!!!
She should have gotten a longer sentence. The damage she did was horrible.
She is a monster. The dad is a hero in my books. Love how she cried for herself while not giving a damn she was letting men assault her child. There are some sick, twisted ppl in the world.
I am shocked at her sentence. I can not believe the judge was so lenient. What about that poor baby who was so viciously abused????
Trash belongs in a landfill, including human debris.
Not sure who should go into the woodchipper first, the predator or the "mom" who sold her kids to the predator.
Both
So the father is solely responsible for his actions but this evil pos is not. It was the drugs fault.
RIGHT???
She got standard sentencing and would have got more if she wasn't a terrible drug addict. She was sick which affects judgment but the judge didn't use that as a reason to reduce the sentence below What was deserved
Gotta say that I appreciate you trimming off the fat for us, even at the cost of your own runtime. Lesser channel operators provide no such courtesy.
Almost to the end now, was caught off guard by the weight of this case. No addiction is enough to justify what this person did, even to an enemy, let alone your own vulnerable child. Don't know if there's any coming back from the nightmares she helped become reality. She may be beyond redemption. And I say that as a devout proponent of the idea of second chances in life.
Yes drugs and alcohol allows us to suspend our humanity and do bad things. But that is no excuse. When a person chooses to indulge they are choosing the possible consequences. This lady loved her drugs more than her kids. And yes I’ve known people who got clean and sober and spent the rest of theirs lives giving back. But usually they had consequences of their behavior, and were truly sorry for their past behavior.
Having been an addict, I still knew right from wrong. I didn't steal from people, I didn't exploit people. You're absolutely right, it's not an excuse. While an addiction can make you desperate, it doesn't make you do things. You have to consciously make the decision to do something like this, knowing that it is wrong. And ESPECIALLY for what she did to her kids, she knew it was wrong and she did it anyway. I have zero sympathy for this woman.
@@itsmeorwhatever627 bingo. The drugs don't make you evil. That has to already be inside of you.
Everyone has choices on what they do or allow in their lives. She did this to herself and the real victims are those children. Period
She needs to loose permanent custody of her children.
Funny how important treatment and rehabilitation is once a person is faced with prison time.
Agree!
It really annoys me when they push addiction as a mitigating factor in these cases. There are many addicts that would never let something like that happen and would probably give up their own life to prevent it. It is a slap in the face to all addicts to try and paint it as if its just what addicts do now and then. The case isnt about an evil person it is about an evil person on drugs.
She definitely deserves more time in prison. Her daughter has a life sentence
There are many parents addicted to drugs and alcohol. This is no excuse for what she has done. I'm happy to see a judge who does take this type of crime seriously!
Thank you for not including the child's statement. She should grow up having her privacy!
ZERO sympathy for her! How any mother can do such abhorrent things to her own child is beyond anything I could imagine.
I think that the defendants attorney needed to give her much more credit for the evil she inflicted on her daughter. (Sarcasm folks)
Eh, he had a job to do.
Yes, I'm aware of that. 😉 It is just that listening to him say it isn't her , it's the drugs is laughable. Being a defense attorney has to be a hard job. I couldn't do it.@@mpettway6982
Do you not understand the purpose of a defense attorney?
Yes genus I do. 😂He was trying to defend his client with BS.@@roems6396
Do you understand sarcasm? Just asking. 😉@@roems6396
i remember this awful woman. no amount of time is enough. i had a terrible addiction and didnt do this.
I was an addict for over 15 years and I now work in rehabilitation- and this lawyer is so full of shit it's unreal. The truth is that each addict has their own rock bottom before they ever start using- that's the point where they break and say, "No more" and get help- for good ppl that bottom is things like stealing from a friend or relative, getting arrested, losing their job, etc.- for bad ppl that rock bottom can be murder, their children being abused, etc. and for really bad ppl- there is no depth they won't sink to in order to keep using. If this lady was letting her children be abused to get drugs- and she wasn't stopping, that wasn't bottom for her- then she had problems before she ever started using. And where is the sick low life scum that actually did this to the little girl? I pray they got them as well. Damn it drugs are sick man- I get so angry when I see this kind of stuff.
So.. Dad got justice for his daughter and Mom gets a pass? 🤮
Yeah I’m in sober living right now with many women who had monstrous habits. They all gave their children up to stable caretakers even though it broke their hearts. That’s horrible in and of itself but if your addiction is that bad you need to do the most right thing you’re capable of doing.
very sad..good luck to you..keep up the hard work!
Take care. Wishing you the best.
Sober living WOOHOO!!!! Just take it day by day. You've got this. Day by day has gotten me 5 1/2 years of sobriety. From a fellow recovering addict, I'm so proud of you!!!!
Fees are dumb. She has NO money she spent it all on drugs and booze. Only 12 years? Sad.
What an incredible presentation by the second DA.
Anyone who experienced sexual abuse as a child would want this woman to spend many many years in prison. She sold her children to the highest paying predator. That is evil despite what her attorney wants the judge to believe.
😢man this was a sad one and hard too. Prayers for the survivor❤
I'm a lifelong Michigander and until the courts started publishing these hearings, I had no idea that there were so many monsters living among us.
Good on Dad. HE should be out of jail. For Mom, I couldn't mention what should be done to her.
I truly believe that addiction is a disease but people still need to be held responsible for crimes they committed while on drugs.
A disease in which people infect themselves... interesting.
A disease needs TREATMENT! Not selling your child to get more drugs.
People aren't at fault for their mental health, but it's still their responsibility.
@@mpettway6982well said.
agreed, and in this case I do think the defendant is a horrible person despite her addiction
I'm glad she got a harsh sentence...it should have been even more in my opinion. There's NO EXCUSE for what she did. She damaged her children forever.
I do hope she got a welcoming party
It always gives me the ick when someone who allowed their child to be abused tries to weasel out of taking responsibility for the fact that they didn't protect their child or actively promoted the abuse. It doubles the ick factor when a defense attorney blames the *addiction* as if it's a separate entity that should be on trial and not the person. Dude, stop. Your client fucked up and doesn't get to blame her addiction for shit she did. Her addiction didn't force her to trade her daughter for drugs, she traded her daughter for drugs to *feed* her addiction.
Real talk 💯 it extra pisses me off when they try to bri g up their childhood 😡 like,no one gives a 💩💯 we all make choices i
It drives me nuts that lawyers know they can't use addiction to excuse actions but they still flipping do it
Basically she pimped out her kids for money, drugs, and cars. Just disgusting.
No one can convince me that "it was the drugs, she's not a bad person." As someone who has struggled with addiction, i know that drugs can make you do things you wouldn't otherwise do. However, it is a CHOICE to do something as horrific as this woman did. There are many addicts in the world with children, but very few do anything remotely close to what she did. Which tells me there's much more to this than the simple cause and effect defense her attorney claimed.
i will never feel bad for drug addicts. you can only get addicted if you chose to try them in the first place, knowing addiction is what happens.
Right 👍🏿 they do drugs, then drugs do them💯
I got addicted after major surgery and having to take painkillers to function. It wasn't exactly my choice, 6 months of taking heavy meds daily will get a person hooked. Though i did choose to continue after the perscriptions stopped, to numb the pain.
Been clean for about 10 years now, but i can say the chemicals change the way your mind works. Eventually checked myself into an outpatient rehab.
If they get addicted from street drugs, sure, i agree with you. But there are many cases where a doctor gets people addicted. Thankfully, the pharmaceutical business is finally changing. Was it Perdue that got fined for knowingly pushing oxy? Unfortunately i wasnt part of the class action lawsuit.
This "mother" is a horrible monster no matter what, though. Addiction doesn't make you sell children.
How's the view from your high horse?
You're so deluded and obviously have no clue. Do you know the statistics of Americans who unknowingly became addicted to pain killers which were PRESCRIBED to them for genuine issues? Maybe keep your mouth shut if you don't
If the brave young lady who spoke sees this, thank you! You are a hero for stopping these monsters.
She loved drugs more than her children. Inexcusable the suffering she allowed on her small innocent children
I am ashamed to say that my daughter was an addict and alcoholic at one time. I understand that AA would say she still is. Nevertheless, she has "been clean" for 10 years now. During her addiction her children were never abused. Their home life wasn't great due to the fighting between her and her husband over the addiction, but they were never abused. He finally gave her an ultimatum to stop or lose the children, which was the catalyst to overcoming her addictions. I don't accept this woman's excuse of addiction to drugs. I am sorry she didn't have someone who loved her and those children enough to do what my son-in-law did, but I don't believe a loving mother would have knowingly allowed anyone to hurt her children, much less basically sell them. She is an abuser. None of this would have happened without her basically selling her. She could have gone to a shelter, a hospital, or the police for help.
She chose drugs over her children and future. She should have got maximum sentences. You cant blame your actions on drugs when you choose to do drugs.
These type of cases make me so angry. I feel no sympathy for her. She made those choices both with doing drugs and how she chose to get access to those drugs by using her children. Jail time no doubt 😡🤮
Drug addicts should not get a pass for poor choices and heinous behaviors because of their addiction. They should be held 100% accountable for their crimes.