love the review man, agreed on the qs3. Did 200km sunday trail were rough and clicked them on 1 and dang ate everything. This 850 does look strong. Keep up the great work guys always top notch reviews and enthusiasms for the sport
I'd agree Polaris looks the best. I'm a Doo guy.thought about buying an assault. And then upon doing some homework... My buds new assault primary clutch froze. 1000 miles. My other buds new pro S exhaust sensor burned out. Limp home mode 400 miles. & My co worker tried out an 850 assault that had 25 miles & went into limp home mode during the test ride😂. He was also very unimpressed with the 850 PO power. He bought a cat instead. Lots of Polaris SxS mechanical issues to I hear. I'm not buying Polaris until QUALITY returns to their line up
Great looking but mapping is off, 2 of my buddies bought this sled and both blew after 200 miles, driving moderately... I drive a 17’ SB pro S and haven’t had any issues after 2000 miles
so how much will a sled like this beat say a 2001 srx 700? I can't afford to get into the new sleds but also can't say i feel like my 02 sxviper feels slow to where i need to upgrade.
Yup , ya 4 year warranty , but who wants to get stranded or towed back , ruin an already short enough season after spending $15k . Not to mention who wants to own a Sled that blows up every year LOL no thanks.
Snowtrax is located in Ontario Canada, I live in Northern Alberta and right now we have over 3ft of snow, valemount and Revelstoke mountain areas are measuring around 7ft of snow with more on the way
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I'll follow this thing on the trail with my 600 renegade backcountry and pass it offtrail lmao, Seriously though I payed five grand for my sled used and it's keeping up too 850's and everything else on the trail... Why build faster sleds with more parts to break when the speed limits are so low?
@@ovproductions3408 hey new account by the way uh too that well you see the trails we ride here are so twisty that you really can't go very fast regardless of how big of an engine you've got in your sled lol. Also, 163x3 800R Etec summit now so I'm sure i'll be fine
4 year warranties don't mean jack. Seen it heard it all before. Next year they will talk how much improves the bearings, oiling, crank, whatever is. Bottom line, snow is fleeting. Better dam well be durable.
Jason Wulff my buddy’s have the Ski-Doo 850 in all platforms and I have a 19 Indy 850. I smoke them till 110 all day then we’re dead even no matter how long we hold it
old&slow had one, plus all you have to do is go online and see owners having a lot of engine failures on early build models. Motor went on mine a couple days before i was heading north for a weekend sledding trip. Thankfully my dealer gave me a demo 800 to take on my trip.
@@ebsell how come media has not said one word, or is that comming in the spring magazines telling consumers all 850 motors are junk. i am online only see what i read here. there may be problems but i'll waite to hear from experts
old&slow did you watch the Polaris reveal? Even they mentioned the engine failures and said anyone who had a failure would be given an extra year of warranty ya dipshit lol.
@@calebm.5698 Skidoo had the same front end? Same skid? I mean it's going to come to a point soon where all the manufacturing is going to be copied. They came so far so fast. All most running out of things to do. I feel like all of them are going to come to a head of just different color schemes for awhile. I mean other cleaner running motors. Where can more tech go into these machines.... Meaning just the next few years. They are going to use similar ideas from each other. I mean come on there's only 4 sled companies. Well shit 3 if you want to count Yamaha and cat together. Lol
Karl Clements true but Polaris is a huge company and I think they could come up with their own innovations more often. Usually they just update to stay with the trends, but they don’t start those trends. Just my opinion though
@@calebm.5698 haven't ridden either of the new doos and Polaris. Old Polaris sleds wouldn't even catch my eye. But man these sleds are killing it. But I'll just keep running my old rev chassis. I don't have $13k to drop on a sled. Especially with the way Mi winter's have been the past few years.
4yrs goes by fast , and if it don’t snow much , then you don’t use it much and the engine has low miles .. if you use it like a quad or sxs or motorcycle that’s different, but they don’t offer that 4yr because they get used !! Yes I know it’s a new engine but
Kwmike-D Again what a waste of Money. 6-7000 on a 2smoke that’s about ready blow and wore out , not gonna get much . Maybe from some dumb sucker . This 4yr warranty will help Poopoolaris sell sleds , highly unlikely someone will need and engine replaced in between 4yr ..
With the market making significant moves into the 850, do you guys 1 think the 600 class will be altered and 2 do you think arctic cat will make an 850 in the coming model year/years
well what turned out to be last ride of season it was about 0 out trails smooth & rock hard, i got 16 mpg. do not remember oil consumption. bought new 20 850 but at 14 miles sled & car colillided no one hurt but sled is in shop getting fixed
i got rid all my Polaris skidoos , lost all the engines , went to a 4 stroke skidoo . a Polaris skidoo u have to warm it up before using it , but u can drive it before it gets warm . it has no safety mode, which causes the engine to blow when ridden cold. at least it was for the older clean fire enginesdon't know what the newer ones are like , and don't care , not wasting any money on there junk!! i will never go back to 2 stroke engine any more especially a Polaris
I don't think the Ski-Doo's look that bad, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Plus, I work for a place that sells BRP products. I think all sleds are pretty unique.
@@corycoulter5140 POLARIS HAS THE BEST LOOKING SLEDS PERIOD SKI-DOOS LOOK LIKE A BUG WITH WEAK LEGS /SKIS AC AND YAMAHA HAVE SOME NICE LOOKING MACHINES!
Oh my... now I have heard it all.. all the reviews out there this year, this is by far the most biased. Nice Luke, most compliant skid in the bizz? How many combined miles does all supertrax have on one? Maybe 1000?
Maybe 5000? We have 5 of them... They've been ridden all over ontario, quebec, headed to the US this week. We dont come up with opinions out of no where. You dont have to agree with my opinion and you're entitled to your own. But I stand behind everything I said in this test ride and it's only affirmed more and more every time I ride. It doesnt mean I dont like other sleds, which is what some people seem to assume. But I will absolutely ALWAYS call a spade a spade when I see one.
Greetings from Finland!Two weeks ago the deliveries of the 850 started in here and it doesent look good. This week another patriot 850 blow up after 10km! Last week someone reached 250km and then total engine failure... This doesent sound good. Anyone has seen or heard similar?
Seems like another nice sled from Polaris...but, how much horsepower do riders really need? I've driven 500's, 600's, 700's, and 800's. To be honest 500 and 600's are my favorite, you don't need over 110 hp on the trails. In the mountains, it can be a different story. But, I'd bet that most snowmobiles will eventually turn electric in the future. Might be a few years, but a good bet that it will happen.
@@kwmiked proves you wrong you said 500&600s "don't last" yes they do they hold their own rather nicely out in powder and slopes I would agree but this video is a trial orientated sled so I'm talking tails
@@dirtyfacegeorge9938 You sure? Heard that some dealers said none were available for warranty replacement? Not surprised that BRP are in that situation either, those sleds seem to have a metric shit ton of problems over here.
Breakin mode is 10 hours... Rpm will be limited by about 200 but should still be up over 8000, more when out of breakin. ETH or non isn't going to make that big of a difference. Our sleds stay in ETH mode all season.
Mark Chesterman Funny. It makes that big of a difference on mine.... It’s sluggish and only revs to 7500ish in ethanol mode.... And, it’s out of break in
@@senioraxys3947 Yup had Woody gold digger studs 168, plenty of traction...when I say it did weird stuff I mean over huge bumps it would pogo off it. Was to me not predictable. Sometimes it would soak it up , other times launch me into a nose dive. Only sled I owned that ever did that and I've had a bunch. However I did love how it would transition and lift skis so easy and was still an awesome sled don't get me wrong.
I can totally agree, but the fact is that the rush is an hard sled to ride because it feels like a motocross. Not for everybody, i came from an xc sled racing and endurocross mx background.
@@senioraxys3947 Ya same here I raced MX in my younger days, still ride enduro got a KTM 450. I would get another Pro S or XCR if I dont like the Indy XC after a test ride. BUT Probably a Switchback to bridge the bumps better unless I got a really good deal on another Rush. Unfortunately I had to sell mine otherwise id still be riding it.
NOW lets talk about the crank bearings on this motor,,,,,, You guys do not live in the real world,,,, All your talk is about money,, This company builds the worst least reliable engines in the industry Period. And you are trying to tell us its the holy grail,,, But Hay they are light,,, so you can push it back to the barn,, I ride with two guys with new 850 engines,, One made it south of three hundred miles,, the other just north of four hundred,, BOTH CRANK BEARING FAILURES,,,,, Lets talk about why Polaris cannot build a engine,, NOW the truth here Luke Lets leave the money out of it,, Just lets tell all these people the truth
love the review man, agreed on the qs3. Did 200km sunday trail were rough and clicked them on 1 and dang ate everything. This 850 does look strong. Keep up the great work guys always top notch reviews and enthusiasms for the sport
Appreciate the support!
Excellent review, thank you. I just picked up this model and people seem really happy with it after 4 years.
I can honestly say that I think you guys do honest reviews and I can’t say that about other channels
Another great review. Did you guys experience too much inside ski lift during aggressive riding?
Love the channel!
How good is the 800 clean fire HO in your opinion?!
Will you guys be reviewing the Taiga TS2 electric snowmobile?
I guess now I know what to look for when HayDays comes around.
Do a skidoo 850 vs Polaris 850 mountain sled shootout already
Are you guys going to review the 2019 srx sidewinder also, review the 2019 sidewinder mtx
Yes, we will indeed have a full review coming for the 2019 SRX.
U guys should do a review/video on Polaris warranties..... they are useless....
Can you please do a review on the 800 or 600 2019 Indy Xc I might be getting one this season and I want to see everything they have
Not a problem! We have a review on the INDY 600 on the way!
@@snowtrax i got a 2017 rush xcr 600 love it just looking to update my old 2nd sled 01 xc 600sp.
The Polaris switchback XCR is still the best trail sled,, that suspension is the best in the business for Smooth trails or trails with big bumps!
I'd agree Polaris looks the best. I'm a Doo guy.thought about buying an assault. And then upon doing some homework... My buds new assault primary clutch froze. 1000 miles. My other buds new pro S exhaust sensor burned out. Limp home mode 400 miles. & My co worker tried out an 850 assault that had 25 miles & went into limp home mode during the test ride😂. He was also very unimpressed with the 850 PO power. He bought a cat instead.
Lots of Polaris SxS mechanical issues to I hear. I'm not buying Polaris until QUALITY returns to their line up
Great looking but mapping is off, 2 of my buddies bought this sled and both blew after 200 miles, driving moderately... I drive a 17’ SB pro S and haven’t had any issues after 2000 miles
are you the spokesman for your buddies come on i just want to hear from one 850 owner where motor is junk
Such a good looking sled.
I will definitely be looking for one next year.
My 2019 assault 850 broke, at 8000 miles the motor is done !
Is there a comparison to the 129 g4 850?
Is it a 2 stroke?
Yes
so how much will a sled like this beat say a 2001 srx 700? I can't afford to get into the new sleds but also can't say i feel like my 02 sxviper feels slow to where i need to upgrade.
Heard about several motors going down already. Never buy a first year motor.
Yep, very smart....
Michael Dorsogna you will care when you’re broke down on the trail and you have to wait a week or 2 before its fixed again.
Yup , ya 4 year warranty , but who wants to get stranded or towed back , ruin an already short enough season after spending $15k . Not to mention who wants to own a Sled that blows up every year LOL no thanks.
Both my buddies blew up their sleds. Polaris said the first batch of motors were “bad”
@@bnorms1617
Its the 900 Fusion all over again
Where did you guys film this?
Probably Ontario, Canada. These guys live outside of Toronto somewhere.
Where are you guys located I'm in new York and don't have any snow
Kenneth 03 Rode in Two Harbors Minnesota last week, had a lot of snow but high temps made most of it melt. Snow this years sucks
Snowtrax is located in Ontario Canada, I live in Northern Alberta and right now we have over 3ft of snow, valemount and Revelstoke mountain areas are measuring around 7ft of snow with more on the way
I’ve rode tug hill four times already..
Why can’t I watch the full episode on RUclips is anyone getting this as well can’t find the first episode or have they not released it yet
They aren't releasing it until the end of the month I think, like the 27th. Or was it the 14 idk
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SnowTrax Television ok thank you was just wondering because i thought they we being released on December 31
Not a problem. The December 31st date was for network television. Sorry for the confusion there.
What's Luke's jacket called??
I'll follow this thing on the trail with my 600 renegade backcountry and pass it offtrail lmao, Seriously though I payed five grand for my sled used and it's keeping up too 850's and everything else on the trail... Why build faster sleds with more parts to break when the speed limits are so low?
The 850 would blow the doors off ur 600 back country
@@ovproductions3408 hey new account by the way uh too that well you see the trails we ride here are so twisty that you really can't go very fast regardless of how big of an engine you've got in your sled lol. Also, 163x3 800R Etec summit now so I'm sure i'll be fine
@@sylfix2680 a 163-3 inch track would be brutal on a trail twisty or not
4 year warranties don't mean jack. Seen it heard it all before. Next year they will talk how much improves the bearings, oiling, crank, whatever is. Bottom line, snow is fleeting. Better dam well be durable.
Lets do this old school , 850 Polaris vs. Ski doo 850. 1/4 drag race. That is the question I have that wasn't answered.
Jason Wulff my buddy’s have the Ski-Doo 850 in all platforms and I have a 19 Indy 850. I smoke them till 110 all day then we’re dead even no matter how long we hold it
I think it really just depends who hooks first they are both very stout motors
@@jdp0316 i agree but im saying studded evenly and a straight line drag race. I realize that it will be a closer race.
@@roCsnipe so your saying once your ahead you stay ahead and once you hit 110 then you just stop pulling on them?
Skidoo has the biggest gun?
Lots of engine failures already, warranty claims will cost loads of money this year. Hopefully they get it figured out next year.
where can we verify your information are you a service writer for a polaris dealer
old&slow had one, plus all you have to do is go online and see owners having a lot of engine failures on early build models. Motor went on mine a couple days before i was heading north for a weekend sledding trip. Thankfully my dealer gave me a demo 800 to take on my trip.
@@ebsell how come media has not said one word, or is that comming in the spring magazines telling consumers all 850 motors are junk. i am online only see what i read here. there may be problems but i'll waite to hear from experts
old&slow did you watch the Polaris reveal? Even they mentioned the engine failures and said anyone who had a failure would be given an extra year of warranty ya dipshit lol.
@@ebsell what failed on yours what model
Polaris has made leaps and bounds.
Karl Clements by taking skidoo’s ideas essentially. No wonder they make a good product, it’s based on a ‘doo
@@calebm.5698 Skidoo had the same front end? Same skid? I mean it's going to come to a point soon where all the manufacturing is going to be copied. They came so far so fast. All most running out of things to do. I feel like all of them are going to come to a head of just different color schemes for awhile. I mean other cleaner running motors. Where can more tech go into these machines.... Meaning just the next few years. They are going to use similar ideas from each other. I mean come on there's only 4 sled companies. Well shit 3 if you want to count Yamaha and cat together. Lol
Karl Clements true but Polaris is a huge company and I think they could come up with their own innovations more often. Usually they just update to stay with the trends, but they don’t start those trends. Just my opinion though
Karl Clements Polaris does make a better front end then skidoo though can’t argue with that
@@calebm.5698 haven't ridden either of the new doos and Polaris. Old Polaris sleds wouldn't even catch my eye. But man these sleds are killing it. But I'll just keep running my old rev chassis. I don't have $13k to drop on a sled. Especially with the way Mi winter's have been the past few years.
4yrs goes by fast , and if it don’t snow much , then you don’t use it much and the engine has low miles .. if you use it like a quad or sxs or motorcycle that’s different, but they don’t offer that 4yr because they get used !! Yes I know it’s a new engine but
Guess u dont get out to ride much, we always find the snow, by the 3rd yr we cant wait to dump our sleds
Kwmike-D . Waste to buy and dump.. how many miles do you have when you dump ?
@@noahranker4133 I wish, I was a orphan
@@JDRTRM 6-7k
Kwmike-D Again what a waste of Money. 6-7000 on a 2smoke that’s about ready blow and wore out , not gonna get much . Maybe from some dumb sucker . This 4yr warranty will help Poopoolaris sell sleds , highly unlikely someone will need and engine replaced in between 4yr ..
i got a 2001 indy 500 xc sp, i prefer the older ones
With the market making significant moves into the 850, do you guys 1 think the 600 class will be altered and 2 do you think arctic cat will make an 850 in the coming model year/years
Wouldnt the rebirth of the Indy 650 be cool. I have no inside information, im just saying. I think it would be a great move on polaris's part.
Luke Lester here we are a year later and you predicted it
THANK YOU POLARIS for giving us an actually tunnel short track sled. Hated the looks of the rush, looks like a dog taking a shit going down the trail.
HOW Far are people getting on a tank of Gas and bottle of oil??
well what turned out to be last ride of season it was about 0 out trails smooth & rock hard, i got 16 mpg. do not remember oil consumption. bought new 20 850 but at 14 miles sled & car colillided no one hurt but sled is in shop getting fixed
i got rid all my Polaris skidoos , lost all the engines , went to a 4 stroke skidoo . a Polaris skidoo u have to warm it up before using it , but u can drive it before it gets warm . it has no safety mode, which causes the engine to blow when ridden cold. at least it was for the older clean fire enginesdon't know what the newer ones are like , and don't care , not wasting any money on there junk!! i will never go back to 2 stroke engine any more especially a Polaris
@@noahranker4133 nothing
I like the looks of the polaris sleds. Ski doos look like they got hit in the face with a shovel!
I don't think the Ski-Doo's look that bad, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Plus, I work for a place that sells BRP products. I think all sleds are pretty unique.
At least skidoo isnt scared to change things up.Polaris has been the same for awhile now.
Cory Coulter dont fix something that isn’t broken polaris sleds in my opinion look the best but skidoo’s are okay too
Me and my friends all bought these sleds, they can’t keep up wit the skidoos sadly and we have both brands
@@corycoulter5140 POLARIS HAS THE BEST LOOKING SLEDS PERIOD SKI-DOOS LOOK LIKE A BUG WITH WEAK LEGS /SKIS AC AND YAMAHA HAVE SOME NICE LOOKING MACHINES!
4 year motor warranty is that a challenge
Daboizofnippising Drinkwalter no it’s a catch up, Doo has had it for a couple years.
Check out my newest post with 800 switchback with can dope asf video soon with a Polaris 850
Oh my... now I have heard it all.. all the reviews out there this year, this is by far the most biased. Nice Luke, most compliant skid in the bizz? How many combined miles does all supertrax have on one? Maybe 1000?
Maybe 5000? We have 5 of them... They've been ridden all over ontario, quebec, headed to the US this week. We dont come up with opinions out of no where. You dont have to agree with my opinion and you're entitled to your own. But I stand behind everything I said in this test ride and it's only affirmed more and more every time I ride. It doesnt mean I dont like other sleds, which is what some people seem to assume. But I will absolutely ALWAYS call a spade a spade when I see one.
never trust a new motor especially from Polaris
Shotup
Greetings from Finland!Two weeks ago the deliveries of the 850 started in here and it doesent look good. This week another patriot 850 blow up after 10km! Last week someone reached 250km and then total engine failure... This doesent sound good. Anyone has seen or heard similar?
Kalle Lammi I don’t what it could be, one in my area has 6000 miles and no issues
Gonna be hard to be more reliable than an Indy 500
A 850 trail sled.... lmao what😂
If it can't handle the abyss.... i'm not interested 😂
Seems like another nice sled from Polaris...but, how much horsepower do riders really need? I've driven 500's, 600's, 700's, and 800's. To be honest 500 and 600's are my favorite, you don't need over 110 hp on the trails. In the mountains, it can be a different story. But, I'd bet that most snowmobiles will eventually turn electric in the future. Might be a few years, but a good bet that it will happen.
It's more fun to drive something slow fast than it is to drive something fast slow
Yeah you do, guess u haven't experienced where the big boys ride, 5 & 600s dont last when u gotta hold it to the bar all day
@@kwmiked I've seen guys on 5 hundos lead/leave 800s
@@nighttracker1472 means nothing to me. I can ride a 550 fan and out ride guys on bigger machines.
@@kwmiked proves you wrong you said 500&600s "don't last" yes they do they hold their own rather nicely out in powder and slopes I would agree but this video is a trial orientated sled so I'm talking tails
Junk 👎I own them my friends own them they don't hold up junk 👎
anyone interested in new 850 , go out and snowcheck one, i have 1001 trouble free miles on it now best ride, best fuel milage
So.. I heard that they're already out of crate engines...
BRP is out of 850s get your facts straight.
@@dirtyfacegeorge9938 You sure? Heard that some dealers said none were available for warranty replacement? Not surprised that BRP are in that situation either, those sleds seem to have a metric shit ton of problems over here.
Also, I'm not talking shit about Polaris, the 850 patriot seems to be a beast and I'm considering selling my 800 Pro and 440/600 IQR for a 850 SKS
Techno smurf music ...... y tho
ski-doo is the best
What about the fact that it only revs 2 7400rpms like the old dragon 900 (which was a pain to ride and a lot less fun)
That is not a fact.
Maybe your thumb isn't long enough to push the throttle all the way in. Lol
It revs in the 7500RPM range until u set the fuel mode to “non-ethanol” and run premium.... Then she’ll pull 8150
Breakin mode is 10 hours... Rpm will be limited by about 200 but should still be up over 8000, more when out of breakin. ETH or non isn't going to make that big of a difference. Our sleds stay in ETH mode all season.
Mark Chesterman Funny. It makes that big of a difference on mine.... It’s sluggish and only revs to 7500ish in ethanol mode.... And, it’s out of break in
Polaris is good but Indy’s are just boring rmk pros are better
TDS Havoc They are totally different sleds. Trail vs Mountain sleds. They are for two totally different styles of riding and you can’t compare them.
Rush/switchback xcr 850 is a lot better than that thing
I had a Pro S 800 Rush ...rear skid was only ok would do weird stuff . I'm glad to have a full tunnel 129 available from Poo now.
Do your track was on studs ?
@@senioraxys3947
Yup had Woody gold digger studs 168, plenty of traction...when I say it did weird stuff I mean over huge bumps it would pogo off it. Was to me not predictable. Sometimes it would soak it up , other times launch me into a nose dive. Only sled I owned that ever did that and I've had a bunch. However I did love how it would transition and lift skis so easy and was still an awesome sled don't get me wrong.
I can totally agree, but the fact is that the rush is an hard sled to ride because it feels like a motocross. Not for everybody, i came from an xc sled racing and endurocross mx background.
@@senioraxys3947
Ya same here I raced MX in my younger days, still ride enduro got a KTM 450. I would get another Pro S or XCR if I dont like the Indy XC after a test ride. BUT Probably a Switchback to bridge the bumps better unless I got a really good deal on another Rush. Unfortunately I had to sell mine otherwise id still be riding it.
NOW lets talk about the crank bearings on this motor,,,,,, You guys do not live in the real world,,,, All your talk is about money,, This company builds the worst least reliable engines in the industry Period. And you are trying to tell us its the holy grail,,, But Hay they are light,,, so you can push it back to the barn,, I ride with two guys with new 850 engines,, One made it south of three hundred miles,, the other just north of four hundred,, BOTH CRANK BEARING FAILURES,,,,, Lets talk about why Polaris cannot build a engine,, NOW the truth here Luke Lets leave the money out of it,, Just lets tell all these people the truth
only 2 motors out of how many built, the engines were repaired under warranty right