My 3 year ols son just looke at me and said, "Dad, Sonic Adventure 1's Nietzschean chaos meets Super Mario 64's Platonic forms; Sonic speeds through existential dread while Mario jumps into ideal realms. Spin vs. leap-philosophy in pixels!" what Such a smart young lad! 🙏😂🔥
Crusty as they may have been, they’re leaps and bounds more robust and developed than any game you’d see released as-is nowadays. But that point aside, they were truly revolutionary. The first forays into their respective 3D space. And I honestly think they’re among the best of their series. Mario 64 nails the HUB and wonder of the castle, its paintings and their worlds. And the snadbox-esque nature of the stars that isn’t as big and loose as Odyssey. But also not as strict as Sunshine. Also Mario’s moveset in 64 is among my favorites. Sonic Adventure was imo way ahead of anything at the time. And I don’t think a single 3D Sonic game after really nails the controls as well for Sonic and friends. The music is really diverse, and the Adventure fields are such a nice way to play around with character moves and understanding how to execute with the controls. In both cases, I can definitely see that a lot of care went into crafting the experience. From how the character should control, to the world they should interact with. It just feels so natural.
Is it weird that I think sonic was extremely lucky that X-treme never came. Cause looking at the gameplay I don't think it would be looked foundly at the time when it's direct competitors mario 64 and crash bandicoot were doing real 3D with real polygon art.
@@Sharpteeth32 like bro, THE SPIN JUMP! i think what bro ham has an actual problem with are the itty bitty little platforms in the game, it makes mario seem twitchy and fucked up, but on proper ground hes pretty awesome
Ofc me being a lifelong fan of both, I can see both of their pros and cons but ofc I am more biased towards Sonic since it's my favorite franchise. While I like Sonic Adventure more, I can see arguments for both.
Imo, Adventure holds up better than 64, but 64 is still more important for being so revolutionary and working with worse hardware. Adventure is still a landmark title; coming out the same year as OOT while nailing a formula Sega still has trouble with to this is nothing short of amazing. But I do think coming out three years after 64 and on better hardware gives it an inherent edge that makes 64 more impressive
Here is the thing. Sonic Adventure's problems are due to it being rushed. Even in 1999 it was painfully obvious how little time Sega spent making Sonic Adventure. Sega games in general seem like great ideas the company just decided to rush. Sonic R could of been better than Mario Kart if Sega didnt do their typical 8 months of development rubbish
@@Zeldafan-zy1pb “Zelda fan” might be a little biased about that lmao. Sonic’s speed is another factor that makes his jump to 3D so impressive. If the game didn’t have things like Big or Amy, I don’t think there’s really any real distinction in quality between this or BK and OoT
i like your funny words cat person i've never met or even heard of before today, therefore i am subscribing congratulations feline friend, if your next video is bad there will be consequences
To the creator of this video. Are you aware that Zelda Ocarina of Time came out in 1998? When Sonic Adventure came out it was sold worse, and it was clearly inferior to existing 3D games
Kinda tired of people shitting on the DX port Specifically the original DX port on the Gamecube If you don't like the graphics or visuals or whatever, that's fine but in terms of bugs and glitches it doesn't actually introduce any more than the original Dreamcast release already had Every subsequent re-release of DX after the Gamecube port IS actual ass I won't deny that, but the original DX port is nearly 1 to 1 with it's original Dreamcast release in terms of actual quality
The problem with comparing Sonic Adventure to Mario 64 is that Sonic Adventure came out when *superior* 3D games were already out on N64. In September 1999, Zelda Ocarina was out for over a year and Sonic Adventure is laughable compared to that game. *Sega chose to rush Sonic Adventure and every Sonic game*
There is no way in hell Sonic Adventure made any dent in a world where Zelda Ocarina of Time and Banjo Kazooie sold millions before people even knew Sonic Adventure existed.
in gameplay, sonic can just beat the shit out of mario and spam homing attacks and light speed attacks at mario and mario will not run fast enough to gain HP back.
*In 1998, Zelda Ocarina of Time and Banjo Kazooie was already better programmed and designed than Sonic Adventure!* Dreamcast made games that gave Playstation/Nintendo fans no reason to turn over. And in September 1999 when Sonic Adventure hit the states, most gamers were eagerly anticipating Playstation 2
Mario 64 was revolutionary when it came out. Sonic Adventure was inferior to many N64 games when it came out. Almost every Sega game plays like it was rushed. *Even today*
If Sega actually worked on Sonic Adventure until 1999 full budget, it might of been good. Instead, Sonic Team switched to Dreamcast hardware in March 1998 and scrapped almost everything they did on Saturn. Basically starting from scratch. In the end, Sega was selling a big 3D Sonic game made in 10 months. Rushed. Not because its,1998/1999. Because Sega rushed Sonic Adventure like every other Sonic game. Stick with N64 or wait for Playstation 2 was what gamers did. And Sega kept putting more rushed games on Dreamcast
*Sonic Adventure, unlike Mario 64 is just a rushed Sega game.* Most "problems" with Sonic Adventure are due to Sega spending just 10 months on Dreamcast hardware. Its a big difference. Sega also spent just a few months on Sonic R, 3D Blast, while Nintendo generally spent multiple years on even 2D Mario games
Mario 64 didnt need to beat Sonic Adventure. Zelda Ocarina of Time and Banjo Kazooie did a year before Sonic Adventure came out. In September 1999, we were used to getting platformers with decent controls. Sonic Adventure was just another rushed Sonic game. There is NO EXCUSE for Sonic Adventure's mediocre state so late in 1999 when Nintendo had been getting so many good 3D games. And thats the problem with Sega Dreamcast. Other than graphics, the general public considered these games unimpressive. And yet Playstation 2 amazed gamers before it even released
My 3 year ols son just looke at me and said, "Dad, Sonic Adventure 1's Nietzschean chaos meets Super Mario 64's Platonic forms; Sonic speeds through existential dread while Mario jumps into ideal realms. Spin vs. leap-philosophy in pixels!"
what Such a smart young lad! 🙏😂🔥
Sir that’s not a kid that’s a 37 year old man
@@HeheHoohooo have you heard of r/wokekids
@@champion_ofcloud-var No, I don’t really browse Reddit
Ok blud
@notaadamritim no, it's common knowledge that I am big sleeter's son,
that rathful blue beast has taken bigsleeter again…
Whichever game is better, i think we can all agree that Bubsy 3D revolutionised the gaming industry.
Of course.
@@Sn0c But that fact is kind of engraved into everyone's minds, don't you think? Everyone knows that.
@@WarioEnthusiast Hmm, you're right, it's the most well known fact on the planet
@@Sn0c Nope
You know the beer is kicking in again when sleeter starts talking about sonic
If you really think about it, big sleeter is just an average kid, that no one understands
With his youtube commenters always giving him commands.
@@stoneapollyon8313 doom and gloom in the channel
I hope sonic transitions into the fourth dimension
IGN: sonic had a rouge translation on 3D :)
@@wwsrodriguez40 *Fly in the freedom plays.
Crusty as they may have been, they’re leaps and bounds more robust and developed than any game you’d see released as-is nowadays.
But that point aside, they were truly revolutionary. The first forays into their respective 3D space. And I honestly think they’re among the best of their series.
Mario 64 nails the HUB and wonder of the castle, its paintings and their worlds. And the snadbox-esque nature of the stars that isn’t as big and loose as Odyssey. But also not as strict as Sunshine. Also Mario’s moveset in 64 is among my favorites.
Sonic Adventure was imo way ahead of anything at the time. And I don’t think a single 3D Sonic game after really nails the controls as well for Sonic and friends. The music is really diverse, and the Adventure fields are such a nice way to play around with character moves and understanding how to execute with the controls.
In both cases, I can definitely see that a lot of care went into crafting the experience. From how the character should control, to the world they should interact with. It just feels so natural.
Bro, i did not expect Luigi to win that race.
6:58 NO!!!
Life’s as Xtreme as you wanna make it
Is gay porn extreme?
Is gay porn extreme?
G
A
Y
Sonic is back…
No.
Sonic never left, watchu mean?
What do you mean?
Sunshine v SA2 next?
as much as I dislike both games sunshine losing bro im sorry
I'm all in for it
@@WarioEnthusiastSunshine>SA2 no contest
@@Flare8295 ok
@@Flare8295 💀💀
Funny Fact: We could have had Nintendo 69 if they brought out 5 more skill out of the system.
Wait people hate Mario 64? I thought it was a myth only told in legends
Yeah, we're real.
well i hate it
It's still pretty fun. But there is a lot more better games out there
Is it weird that I think sonic was extremely lucky that X-treme never came. Cause looking at the gameplay I don't think it would be looked foundly at the time when it's direct competitors mario 64 and crash bandicoot were doing real 3D with real polygon art.
Saying sunshine has worse controls is just a blatant admission of skill issue
Right? And just so wrong.
@@Sharpteeth32 like bro, THE SPIN JUMP! i think what bro ham has an actual problem with are the itty bitty little platforms in the game, it makes mario seem twitchy and fucked up, but on proper ground hes pretty awesome
@frickerrific2813 Well, like you said, dude has a skill issue lmao.
@@Sharpteeth32 the funny thing is im also ass at the game
@@frickerrific2813 I'm no expert either, believe me lol
this isnt pawn stars
What about super Mario 64 DS vs Sonic Adventure Directors Cut DX
I wish they never discovered math for dimensions
Ofc me being a lifelong fan of both, I can see both of their pros and cons but ofc I am more biased towards Sonic since it's my favorite franchise. While I like Sonic Adventure more, I can see arguments for both.
9:49
Luigi is number one like he fucking deserves
btw sonic adventure on the Dreamcast only runs at 30fps while the ports run at 60, just letting you know (you might already know that)
HELP THE FRAME ONE TRANS JOKE HAHAHAGA
Somehow my cousin thinks Mario 64 sucks, In my eyes that’s a national war crime.
I hated it too as a kid so maybe he'll grow into it
Zeldafan needs to chill tf out in this comment section
WE OPENING OUR HEARTS WITH THIS ONE 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥‼‼‼
Bigsleeter I’m feeling big.
whats the music that plays at 1:04?
world 4-1 (song's actual name is du-di-da) from ristar
@@WarioEnthusiast ok thanks
The sleetersauce posts yet again.
Imo, Adventure holds up better than 64, but 64 is still more important for being so revolutionary and working with worse hardware.
Adventure is still a landmark title; coming out the same year as OOT while nailing a formula Sega still has trouble with to this is nothing short of amazing. But I do think coming out three years after 64 and on better hardware gives it an inherent edge that makes 64 more impressive
But Banjo Kazooie and Zelda Ocarina hold up better than Sonic Adventure.
Here is the thing. Sonic Adventure's problems are due to it being rushed. Even in 1999 it was painfully obvious how little time Sega spent making Sonic Adventure.
Sega games in general seem like great ideas the company just decided to rush. Sonic R could of been better than Mario Kart if Sega didnt do their typical 8 months of development rubbish
@@Zeldafan-zy1pb “Zelda fan” might be a little biased about that lmao.
Sonic’s speed is another factor that makes his jump to 3D so impressive. If the game didn’t have things like Big or Amy, I don’t think there’s really any real distinction in quality between this or BK and OoT
1:03 why the Saturn doing a T-Rex sound
months of no mario...
Wow this big really sleeter
i like your funny words cat person i've never met or even heard of before today, therefore i am subscribing
congratulations feline friend, if your next video is bad there will be consequences
this guy kinda sounds like Scott the Woz
What are your intro n outro instrumentals!?!?
who the hell is that hedgehog
The bigsleet himself is back
But is Mario sports mix better than sega superstars
i really love crash bandicoot
Hop off my goat Bubsy 3D.
Super Mario 64
Sleeter? Never heard of her
YO sans undertale in Nontendo Network
Doesn't matter Uncle Ben,Crash Bandicoot is better than both of them.
Rayman is better than Crash
To the creator of this video. Are you aware that Zelda Ocarina of Time came out in 1998? When Sonic Adventure came out it was sold worse, and it was clearly inferior to existing 3D games
Heh, so glad I’m from the NONTENDO Network! Not those schmucks at rival corporation NINTENDO Network. (Start ls combing hair while posing in mirror)
Kinda tired of people shitting on the DX port
Specifically the original DX port on the Gamecube
If you don't like the graphics or visuals or whatever, that's fine but in terms of bugs and glitches it doesn't actually introduce any more than the original Dreamcast release already had
Every subsequent re-release of DX after the Gamecube port IS actual ass I won't deny that, but the original DX port is nearly 1 to 1 with it's original Dreamcast release in terms of actual quality
Mario 64 is kinda dumb.
Tried it on my Switch.
I'm going back to Galaxy.
Nah it was good
@@saadsami8860nah, it's terrible
bro's spitting facts ong
The problem with comparing Sonic Adventure to Mario 64 is that Sonic Adventure came out when *superior* 3D games were already out on N64.
In September 1999, Zelda Ocarina was out for over a year and Sonic Adventure is laughable compared to that game. *Sega chose to rush Sonic Adventure and every Sonic game*
Your voice reminds me of videogamedunkey
Another Sleeter banger
I'm actually early to a bigsleeter video
thanks
sm64 > cry about it
Sjeeter banger, it's not megaman but itll work.........
There is no way in hell Sonic Adventure made any dent in a world where Zelda Ocarina of Time and Banjo Kazooie sold millions before people even knew Sonic Adventure existed.
in gameplay, sonic can just beat the shit out of mario and spam homing attacks and light speed attacks at mario and mario will not run fast enough to gain HP back.
invisible cap, thats all im gonna say
@@ricthething that might work but even if mario hits sonic, you need to know rings exist so yeah, mario is still fucked in every way.
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SA2 is NOT the better game over SA1
*In 1998, Zelda Ocarina of Time and Banjo Kazooie was already better programmed and designed than Sonic Adventure!* Dreamcast made games that gave Playstation/Nintendo fans no reason to turn over.
And in September 1999 when Sonic Adventure hit the states, most gamers were eagerly anticipating Playstation 2
Sonic adventure is better in my opinion
*Few people cared about Sonic Adventure when we had Zelda Ocarina of Time.*
You’re comment reeks of bias
Mario 64 was revolutionary when it came out. Sonic Adventure was inferior to many N64 games when it came out. Almost every Sega game plays like it was rushed. *Even today*
Chill out bro, half the comment section is you malding over pixels 😭
Bruh u lost a foot race with sonic and u lost wtf😂
If Sega actually worked on Sonic Adventure until 1999 full budget, it might of been good. Instead, Sonic Team switched to Dreamcast hardware in March 1998 and scrapped almost everything they did on Saturn. Basically starting from scratch.
In the end, Sega was selling a big 3D Sonic game made in 10 months. Rushed. Not because its,1998/1999. Because Sega rushed Sonic Adventure like every other Sonic game.
Stick with N64 or wait for Playstation 2 was what gamers did. And Sega kept putting more rushed games on Dreamcast
*Sonic Adventure, unlike Mario 64 is just a rushed Sega game.* Most "problems" with Sonic Adventure are due to Sega spending just 10 months on Dreamcast hardware. Its a big difference.
Sega also spent just a few months on Sonic R, 3D Blast, while Nintendo generally spent multiple years on even 2D Mario games
i havent even watched the video fully yet but if you say sonic adventure sucks I'm going to kill myself
edit: nevermind I wont kill myself 😁
I genuinely think 64 is one of the worst games I've ever played. The game sucks ass
MegaMan legends better and I haven't even played it
ahaha aha
haahhhh
man i dont like sa2 all that much
rayman 3d is better then these washed games
Car
Mario 64 didnt need to beat Sonic Adventure. Zelda Ocarina of Time and Banjo Kazooie did a year before Sonic Adventure came out.
In September 1999, we were used to getting platformers with decent controls. Sonic Adventure was just another rushed Sonic game. There is NO EXCUSE for Sonic Adventure's mediocre state so late in 1999 when Nintendo had been getting so many good 3D games.
And thats the problem with Sega Dreamcast. Other than graphics, the general public considered these games unimpressive. And yet Playstation 2 amazed gamers before it even released
I smell bias outta this faker
i've never played adventure but bro as someone who didn't grow up with mario 64 i thought the controls sucked ass, and it ruined the game for me
I'd say Adventure is pretty good, but yeah, 64 sucks so much
You could say I'm biased cause I've been a Sonic fan since like 6. 64 is one of the worst games I've ever played even Forces is way more fun
is this another than ign critic