I was looking at 705’s myself. Here’s the RMMC description. The Shinko 705 is a DOT Compliant dual sport tire designed for 80% street and 20% trail riding. A versatile tread pattern provides excellent wet and dry weather adhesion and smooth running on the highway. Rubber compound resists tearing during off road use. 4-ply construction.
I like them, but if you get them you have to accept their dirt limitations. They perform well enough on dirt in most instances if it's not muddy and such, but they can surprise you with the front end suddenly slipping out on gravel.
I love them on the tarmac. Check out my 'I Crashed My CRF300L' video ( ruclips.net/video/wex5nX9U5Gg/видео.html ). Scary how unpredictable it was, and in terrain that is easy. Now I'm a bit nervous taking them off road at all. Aside from this crash, the 705 front tire has suddenly slipped out on me on good gravel roads, whereas on other tires I haven't had the front end slip like that in many years. It's just not predictable on dirt. Might have sometime to do with the front tire being out of round by 3mm, but unlikely.
My 300l had these on when I purchased it. Loved them on the street. Gravel/dirt roads and basic trails were absolutely fine especially if not overly wet. I switched to more aggressive tires only because I've started riding to trails that are frequently muddy (with some fairly deep water holes) and include some punchy climbs. Really miss the great on pavement feel with the 705's though. Never had a supermoto but in my mind gives a taste of what that's about. Would be nice to have a 2nd set of wheels to keep the Shinko's on.
The SHINKO 244's work great on pavement and gravel roads excellent tires. I find for me the 244s seem all around better as pot holes and lose gravel on paved back highways they seem to handle better.
I like the K270's better than the Shinko 244's. They both have similar tread patterns but Shinko's speed rating for the 244 front tire size is well below the top speed of the bike, so be careful at speed.
Great video! The klr im getting next week has these on it and I was scared to death I wouldn't be able to take it on the double track/atv trails behind my house since I don't have my motorcycle endorsement yet and was afraid these tires would just have me eating dirt constantly on anything but pavement since I've only ridden dirt bikes with knobbies before.
They will certainly do dirt, but you do have to be cautious of how they handle some loose gravel situations. The front can unexpectedly wash out, so get accustumed to them gradually I'd say.
@Scoottoots yah thats what I was afraid of, I will be swapping the tires ASAP but I have to do a valve adjustment on it first so may not have the money to do so right away, hence why I was trying to see how the 705s do on dirt roads and smoother double track which your video answered
@@Catboy-hr2qp The best 50/50 tire, if that suits you best, that I have used are the Kenda K270's. They track well on gravel and handle most dirt scenarios really well, while providing good performance on tarmac. They do get a tad squirmy though when leaned over hard on pavement though as the side knobs flex a bit.
Yup, that's what I half expected. I want to get on a looser gravel FSR and test that. I'm not fan of gravel roads, so I try not to spend more time than I have to on them. Thanks :-)
Lucy's got a new set of shoes! I've always read good things about those 705's - good to hear your first impression. I have a set of K270's waiting in the garage for my Rally, have a few more rides worth of life left in the stock IRCs before I spoon those on. Oh, and judging by the fact that you've uploaded this ride - I assume you didn't get stuck, fuel-less on the side of a mountain, so that's a plus 😆Cheers!
Nice looking tire's keep us posted john, I'm thinking of a more street oriented tire for my 300 Rally I also don't do much mudding action, mainly a 10 mile trip to town to pick up those little things you forget while you where in town Lol take care buddy 🛵
Funny how you never forget terrain when your an outdoor person, this is definitely British Columbia terrain. So that combination would have a tubeless front and tube rear, did you put in tire locks?
Ha, yeah it's B.C. alright. And yup, tubeless front tire and tube type on the rear in those sizes. No I don't use rim locks as I run street pressures off road. Pretty much always have.
It's time to replace the front on my klx250 and I've found that I ride on the road more than I thought I would. I'm thinking about a 705 but I might want something a little more aggressive for the rear when the time comes. I live in Arizona, there's not much mud ,a little sand sometimes tho.
I had a couple bad experiences on the 705 front tire since this video. It washed out unexpectedly and suddenly in easy terrain. It left me with doubts. I'd say the front tire needs to hold the line in dirt, more than the rear tire needs traction if a person was heavily compromising on tire choice for dirt. Another option is the Kenda K270. It's a great 50/50 tire; holds the line in dirt and is fine on pavement.
I ran these on my V-Strom 1000. I never fully trusted the front of that bike. It had a bad tendancy to tuck on gravel regardless of tires. A friend has the 650 and he has no isdues with front end tuck 🤷♂️
I'm fairly happy with the 705's thus far. If it weren't for the front tire being out of round, they'd be perfect for me. Having the front end tuck on gravel is not a happy dance. It's a good heads-up though :-)
No, never have, though I've been tempted to get a Grom. Any of those undersized bikes would be a hoot to ride I'd think. I had a 50cc 2 stroke scooter and I really enjoyed it.
It has been a year since this video, how they been so far? My riding is mostly on pavement, were it rains constantly and the road are not in good condition.
Hey Dave, I got them from FortNine. 90/90-21 front: $129.99 120/80-18 rear: $149.99 FPT: $10.00 Tax: $38.80 Total: $324.78 Delivery was free of course.
@@Scoottoots thanks a lot. I got my handguards from there and recently was in North Van and tried to find the shop Ryan F9 uses for his vids but was unsuccessful. Would have been cool to meet him. I think I'll order myself a set soon. Like you, I've found most of my riding is done on the street and I'm too old to go too crazy offroad anyway. Thanks again, you're the best!
Totally different tire so hard to compare. The 700's were better all-round. The 705's are better on tarmac and much worse on dirt. The best 50/50 that I've tried is the Kenda K270.
Mr Toots ... My CRF250 wobbles side to side at 75mph (almost flat out on a straight road). It has the original tires. I've put a small windscreen on it, no change to forks springs or shock. What are your thoughts? Would a more road focused tire help?
It shouldn't be wobbling at that speed. My crf250l was fairly stable at speed, even with stock tires. That said, when those stock IRC tires are still somewhat new, they can feel like that. If your tires are pretty new, they will likely improve as they wear a bit. Otherwise, check your front end for play at the headstock, and watch your inputs on the bars. It's a light bike with a narrow front tire, so it requires more finesse at speed.
@@Scoottoots Thanks John. (I hope I remembered that OK). I'll check the headstock for looseness. Tires are not very new ... newest thing is the the small windscreen, and I don't recall having the wobble before installing the windscreen (but I don't frequently get up to 75mph). If headstock is OK then I'll remove the windshield and try again.
This video on the Shinko 705's is exactly what I was looking for; same Honda, same style of riding and surfaces. Thanks you from Ontario.
Just be careful of the unpredictable nature of the grip on gravel. The front can wash out quickly. Cheers 🙂
I was looking at 705’s myself.
Here’s the RMMC description.
The Shinko 705 is a DOT Compliant dual sport tire designed for 80% street and 20% trail riding. A versatile tread pattern provides excellent wet and dry weather adhesion and smooth running on the highway.
Rubber compound resists tearing during off road use.
4-ply construction.
I like them, but if you get them you have to accept their dirt limitations. They perform well enough on dirt in most instances if it's not muddy and such, but they can surprise you with the front end suddenly slipping out on gravel.
I had those on my 2018 Triumph T120. Front tire was a little too big and rubbed at high speeds. But they were awesome.
That's good to hear. Thanks 🙂
I has a few sets of these on my old V Strom. Probably one of the best ADV tires out there.
Good to know that. They sure seem fine to me so far. Glad I got them :-)
Your videos are always informative and fun. Thank you
Thanks :-)
I run the 705s on my 2018 Royal Enfield Himalayan. I do the same type of riding you do and I haven't experienced any
I love them on the tarmac. Check out my 'I Crashed My CRF300L' video ( ruclips.net/video/wex5nX9U5Gg/видео.html ). Scary how unpredictable it was, and in terrain that is easy. Now I'm a bit nervous taking them off road at all. Aside from this crash, the 705 front tire has suddenly slipped out on me on good gravel roads, whereas on other tires I haven't had the front end slip like that in many years. It's just not predictable on dirt. Might have sometime to do with the front tire being out of round by 3mm, but unlikely.
Being almost out of gas is a bad feeling 😩
Great review !
Yeah it kinda sucks but ya gotta have faith. I made with a bit left over :-)
Cheers, Eric.
My 300l had these on when I purchased it. Loved them on the street. Gravel/dirt roads and basic trails were absolutely fine especially if not overly wet. I switched to more aggressive tires only because I've started riding to trails that are frequently muddy (with some fairly deep water holes) and include some punchy climbs.
Really miss the great on pavement feel with the 705's though. Never had a supermoto but in my mind gives a taste of what that's about. Would be nice to have a 2nd set of wheels to keep the Shinko's on.
Would be cool to able to switch it up to supermoto style. It's a fun bike on the road when the suspension is upgraded 🙂
The SHINKO 244's work great on pavement and gravel roads excellent tires. I find for me the 244s seem all around better as pot holes and lose gravel on paved back highways they seem to handle better.
I like the K270's better than the Shinko 244's. They both have similar tread patterns but Shinko's speed rating for the 244 front tire size is well below the top speed of the bike, so be careful at speed.
@@Scoottoots Good call out thanks !
Great video! The klr im getting next week has these on it and I was scared to death I wouldn't be able to take it on the double track/atv trails behind my house since I don't have my motorcycle endorsement yet and was afraid these tires would just have me eating dirt constantly on anything but pavement since I've only ridden dirt bikes with knobbies before.
They will certainly do dirt, but you do have to be cautious of how they handle some loose gravel situations. The front can unexpectedly wash out, so get accustumed to them gradually I'd say.
@Scoottoots yah thats what I was afraid of, I will be swapping the tires ASAP but I have to do a valve adjustment on it first so may not have the money to do so right away, hence why I was trying to see how the 705s do on dirt roads and smoother double track which your video answered
@@Catboy-hr2qp The best 50/50 tire, if that suits you best, that I have used are the Kenda K270's. They track well on gravel and handle most dirt scenarios really well, while providing good performance on tarmac. They do get a tad squirmy though when leaned over hard on pavement though as the side knobs flex a bit.
Watch for the front washing out in gravel.
Yup, that's what I half expected. I want to get on a looser gravel FSR and test that. I'm not fan of gravel roads, so I try not to spend more time than I have to on them. Thanks :-)
I used them on my KLR and never have an issue, they are good.
Cool. I'm happy I tried them finally.
Lucy's got a new set of shoes! I've always read good things about those 705's - good to hear your first impression. I have a set of K270's waiting in the garage for my Rally, have a few more rides worth of life left in the stock IRCs before I spoon those on. Oh, and judging by the fact that you've uploaded this ride - I assume you didn't get stuck, fuel-less on the side of a mountain, so that's a plus 😆Cheers!
Ha, yes I made it to the gas station with some to spare, so all was good. I think you'll like those K270's. Let us know once you've tested them.
I have the 700’s on my dr350 love them but 705 looks good also 700 classed as 60 road 40 dirt
Yup, the 705's are great on the road. Not terribly suited to dirt unless you don't ride dirt often or aggressively.
Nice looking tire's keep us posted john, I'm thinking of a more street oriented tire for my 300 Rally I also don't do much mudding action, mainly a 10 mile trip to town to pick up those little things you forget while you where in town Lol take care buddy 🛵
Yup, I'll keep you all posted down the line on these tires. So far I like them, though I haven't taken them into a big variety of terrain yet.
Funny how you never forget terrain when your an outdoor person, this is definitely British Columbia terrain. So that combination would have a tubeless front and tube rear, did you put in tire locks?
Ha, yeah it's B.C. alright. And yup, tubeless front tire and tube type on the rear in those sizes. No I don't use rim locks as I run street pressures off road. Pretty much always have.
It's time to replace the front on my klx250 and I've found that I ride on the road more than I thought I would. I'm thinking about a 705 but I might want something a little more aggressive for the rear when the time comes. I live in Arizona, there's not much mud ,a little sand sometimes tho.
I had a couple bad experiences on the 705 front tire since this video. It washed out unexpectedly and suddenly in easy terrain. It left me with doubts. I'd say the front tire needs to hold the line in dirt, more than the rear tire needs traction if a person was heavily compromising on tire choice for dirt. Another option is the Kenda K270. It's a great 50/50 tire; holds the line in dirt and is fine on pavement.
Thanks Scoot
Cheers Joseph :-)
I ran these on my V-Strom 1000. I never fully trusted the front of that bike. It had a bad tendancy to tuck on gravel regardless of tires.
A friend has the 650 and he has no isdues with front end tuck 🤷♂️
I'm fairly happy with the 705's thus far. If it weren't for the front tire being out of round, they'd be perfect for me. Having the front end tuck on gravel is not a happy dance. It's a good heads-up though :-)
Just bought a 2020 Red Honda Monkey, I was wondering if you’ve ever driven one. I love it.
No, never have, though I've been tempted to get a Grom. Any of those undersized bikes would be a hoot to ride I'd think. I had a 50cc 2 stroke scooter and I really enjoyed it.
Hello, what tire pressure are you running? Thanks
I ran street pressures. Around 20 - 22 psi front, 22 - 25 psi rear.
Hope you made it back ok.
Thanks, with some to spare :-)
It has been a year since this video, how they been so far?
My riding is mostly on pavement, were it rains constantly and the road are not in good condition.
If you're mostly on pavement you'll like them a lot. They handle beuatifully on tarmac, wet or dry, and quite forgiving of rough road conditions.
When you removed the blue graphics did you warm them up 1st? Just yanked them off. I like the look
I heated with a hair dryer as I removed them. They come easily that way. Thanks, I like the look better also :-)
You didn't give us the sizes :(
I try to stay as close to stock size as possible. In this case, 120/80 x 18 rear (stock size) and 90/90 x 21 front (a bit wider than stock).
Hey Scoot. Can i ask whete you got them and how much they cost all in? Im almost due for new tires and am also in BC.
Hey Dave, I got them from FortNine.
90/90-21 front: $129.99
120/80-18 rear: $149.99
FPT: $10.00
Tax: $38.80
Total: $324.78
Delivery was free of course.
@@Scoottoots thanks a lot. I got my handguards from there and recently was in North Van and tried to find the shop Ryan F9 uses for his vids but was unsuccessful. Would have been cool to meet him. I think I'll order myself a set soon. Like you, I've found most of my riding is done on the street and I'm too old to go too crazy offroad anyway. Thanks again, you're the best!
@@davejoe2592 That's great, thanks, and let us know how you like them 🙂
You like these better than the 700's?
Totally different tire so hard to compare. The 700's were better all-round. The 705's are better on tarmac and much worse on dirt. The best 50/50 that I've tried is the Kenda K270.
Mr Toots ... My CRF250 wobbles side to side at 75mph (almost flat out on a straight road). It has the original tires. I've put a small windscreen on it, no change to forks springs or shock.
What are your thoughts? Would a more road focused tire help?
It shouldn't be wobbling at that speed. My crf250l was fairly stable at speed, even with stock tires. That said, when those stock IRC tires are still somewhat new, they can feel like that. If your tires are pretty new, they will likely improve as they wear a bit. Otherwise, check your front end for play at the headstock, and watch your inputs on the bars. It's a light bike with a narrow front tire, so it requires more finesse at speed.
@@Scoottoots Thanks John. (I hope I remembered that OK).
I'll check the headstock for looseness.
Tires are not very new ... newest thing is the the small windscreen, and I don't recall having the wobble before installing the windscreen (but I don't frequently get up to 75mph).
If headstock is OK then I'll remove the windshield and try again.
@@coolbananaboy5075 Yeah, if there's no play in the headstock, that windscreen might just be the culprit.
Check your fork seals too. I had one leaking so slow I didn’t notice right away. It made it shake.
@@jimperry4420 Good to know. I never thought of that. Thx.