I wouldn't even be surprised if Detroit finishes dead last this year. Yes Montreal is going to pass them. Buffalo, Ottawa, Montreal, San Jose, Anaheim and Chicago will all make the playoffs before Detroit.
Petry, Kane, Husso, Lyon, Motte, Berggren, and Fischer all free agents totaling $18,650,000. We also have a few guys at Grand Rapids who will be free agents at the end of the year. Question is, who do you go after and how much do you want to spend? A lot of FA's next summer are mid 30's only a few really talented guys (Marner ex.) i believe is going to be 28 or 29 next year. Do you want to pay him $10 million or more? I'd rather see guys like Lombardi and Danielson make the team. Cheaper and give them a chance to learn, because this team is going nowhere, so let them get their feet wet. Also get a coach. Lalonde sucks. I went through the Ned Harkness era and he's Harkness 2.0 IMO.
I don't know, if you have a chance to snag Marner in his twenties, I think you jump at that. He'd immediately be our best offensive and defensive forward, the game breaker this team is missing.
Berggren probably will go UFA to get out of town and make more money on a longer term deal. Last years assignment of Berggren's to the AHL was a mystery. He then rejected their initial offer to settle on a one year deal? Not the things dreams are made of.
This is how elite each of those teams to make the change for playoff greatness since 2015-16' since alot of 'smart' wings fans like to use 10 years as a the metric for the rebuild even through Holland never had any intention of doing anything helpful for a proper rebuild. This year being the 10th year. All people will do is complain, but none of these similarly rebuilt teams has been good for a long time. It took the Avs 5 years after the CBA lockout to be consistent playoff contenders until they won the cup in 2022 in 9 years of time. Idk why any one of those 4 fanbases would be bragging right now cuz they are all still bad. I just wish people would get off the pot about it "taking too long." Buffalo- 0 out of 9 years Detroit- 1 out of 9 years (their last playoff appearance) Montreal- 2 out of 9 years Ottawa- 2 out of 9 years.
Pay their way out with big name free agents? Lmao the most money any FA has got was like 6 and that was Tarasenko this year. Steve hired a base level NHL team so the kids didnt have to carry an NHL team in their first years. They signed like 1-2 FAs every year and all get Middle six contracts. The kids are still working their way up and look like theyre thriving. It takes time when you dont have any lottery luck, why is this a hard concept for so many people.
This is misguided - Grand Rapids is stocked with players that are close to NHL ready - and they are tearing it up . Detroit is woeful at a couple positions - 2nd pair Defense and Center -that is all - they fill out with 3 or 4 good players in those spots and it is a whole different deal .
Prospects are just that: Prospects. The AHL and ECHL is littered with guys that were only ever *close* to NHL ready and this will end up the case for the Griffins. They are way further than 3 or 4 good players fixing this.
The problem with the GR argument is that no player in the Wing's prospect pool is a game-changing talent. I think they have enough good to very good players to be a solid 6-8 seed playoff lock each year, but they do not have top end talent that will make them a Cup contender now or on the horizon.
Their entire d corps is arguably bad other than their first pair. Their first pair is playing ridiculous minutes against almost exclusively the other teams top talent and both the second and third pair constantly fail with sheltered minutes against lesser talent. Guys like Petry on the second pair is ridiculous and is only the case because they have literally nothing. Petry's not even on the third pair on a good team, he's lucky to be a 7th dman. And the way the forwards are constructed with doesn't help the defense at all. Kane, Tarasenko, Debrincat, etc. none of these guys are known for their defensive play and when they aren't producing points they're almost useless.
Seravalli makes some sense. "Die Hard" Red Wings fans point to the fact "the Wings are only 3 points behind for a playoff spot" and while true today, as the Wings lost 8 of the last 11 games, that course puts Detroit nothing better than 48-51 points at the end of April. Other teams are making changes, while Detroit sits stagnate. Steve is a great GM, but he's trying to build a Jon Cooper team with a Jeff Blashill coaching style. Detroit needs a fiery leader like Joel Quenville or the equivalent, someone to light the burners under these good players, and to sit the slugs till they feel the heat, or ask to be let go.
Fire Lalonde. Make a splash in 2025 free agency. Hopefully a strong puck moving defender. And playoffs 2025. Mainly because Husso and Holl are gone for sure. That’s 7 mil. Not including other possible trade offs. Just that 7 mil alone will get that defenseman. I bet asp at least will be on the ahl roster. Able to be brought up at a phone call.
Its obvious that we are not a contender, So I believe this is the time to bring up Danielson and MBN. I would feel better about not being a playoff team, If there were efforts being made to get some NHL Xp under our future Top guys sooner rather then later. Danielson and MBN are No less prepaired than Ray and Mort were when they were thrust into important roles, and Det is clearly not winning a series against a top 3 in Any division.
They will let ND and MBN overripen not to accelerate their ELC and not have to pay more in RFA. The less a player is known to the league the less competition for an offer sheet. They have been doing this for decades.
Detroit went old and I thought they were going to sneak into the last playoff spot this year. They might have missed that opportunity. If they don't make it this year they probably suffer some die back. I hope Montreal moves past detroit in the next couple years.
Mike Grier looking better and better by the day
I wouldn't even be surprised if Detroit finishes dead last this year. Yes Montreal is going to pass them. Buffalo, Ottawa, Montreal, San Jose, Anaheim and Chicago will all make the playoffs before Detroit.
You know if you actually bothered to do your homework on previous years of success you wouldn't sound so insane and say stupid crap
If Detroit finishes dead last expect them to draft 3rd overall.
Just a lock as per usual NHL antics.
Petry, Kane, Husso, Lyon, Motte, Berggren, and Fischer all free agents totaling $18,650,000. We also have a few guys at Grand Rapids who will be free agents at the end of the year. Question is, who do you go after and how much do you want to spend? A lot of FA's next summer are mid 30's only a few really talented guys (Marner ex.) i believe is going to be 28 or 29 next year. Do you want to pay him $10 million or more? I'd rather see guys like Lombardi and Danielson make the team. Cheaper and give them a chance to learn, because this team is going nowhere, so let them get their feet wet. Also get a coach. Lalonde sucks. I went through the Ned Harkness era and he's Harkness 2.0 IMO.
I don't know, if you have a chance to snag Marner in his twenties, I think you jump at that. He'd immediately be our best offensive and defensive forward, the game breaker this team is missing.
Berggren probably will go UFA to get out of town and make more money on a longer term deal.
Last years assignment of Berggren's to the AHL was a mystery. He then rejected their initial offer to settle on a one year deal? Not the things dreams are made of.
This is how elite each of those teams to make the change for playoff greatness since 2015-16' since alot of 'smart' wings fans like to use 10 years as a the metric for the rebuild even through Holland never had any intention of doing anything helpful for a proper rebuild. This year being the 10th year. All people will do is complain, but none of these similarly rebuilt teams has been good for a long time. It took the Avs 5 years after the CBA lockout to be consistent playoff contenders until they won the cup in 2022 in 9 years of time. Idk why any one of those 4 fanbases would be bragging right now cuz they are all still bad. I just wish people would get off the pot about it "taking too long."
Buffalo- 0 out of 9 years
Detroit- 1 out of 9 years (their last playoff appearance)
Montreal- 2 out of 9 years
Ottawa- 2 out of 9 years.
Pay their way out with big name free agents? Lmao the most money any FA has got was like 6 and that was Tarasenko this year. Steve hired a base level NHL team so the kids didnt have to carry an NHL team in their first years. They signed like 1-2 FAs every year and all get Middle six contracts. The kids are still working their way up and look like theyre thriving. It takes time when you dont have any lottery luck, why is this a hard concept for so many people.
yzerman really doesn't know what the hell he's doing does he lol 🤣
This is misguided - Grand Rapids is stocked with players that are close to NHL ready - and they are tearing it up . Detroit is woeful at a couple positions - 2nd pair Defense and Center -that is all - they fill out with 3 or 4 good players in those spots and it is a whole different deal .
Prospects are just that: Prospects. The AHL and ECHL is littered with guys that were only ever *close* to NHL ready and this will end up the case for the Griffins. They are way further than 3 or 4 good players fixing this.
The problem with the GR argument is that no player in the Wing's prospect pool is a game-changing talent. I think they have enough good to very good players to be a solid 6-8 seed playoff lock each year, but they do not have top end talent that will make them a Cup contender now or on the horizon.
Their entire d corps is arguably bad other than their first pair. Their first pair is playing ridiculous minutes against almost exclusively the other teams top talent and both the second and third pair constantly fail with sheltered minutes against lesser talent. Guys like Petry on the second pair is ridiculous and is only the case because they have literally nothing. Petry's not even on the third pair on a good team, he's lucky to be a 7th dman. And the way the forwards are constructed with doesn't help the defense at all. Kane, Tarasenko, Debrincat, etc. none of these guys are known for their defensive play and when they aren't producing points they're almost useless.
Agreed. Detroit has the deepest prospects of any team in the NHL.
I heard that about Grand Rapids for that last 10 years. Cholowski was the next Lidstrom and stuff like that.
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Seravalli makes some sense. "Die Hard" Red Wings fans point to the fact "the Wings are only 3 points behind for a playoff spot" and while true today, as the Wings lost 8 of the last 11 games, that course puts Detroit nothing better than 48-51 points at the end of April. Other teams are making changes, while Detroit sits stagnate. Steve is a great GM, but he's trying to build a Jon Cooper team with a Jeff Blashill coaching style. Detroit needs a fiery leader like Joel Quenville or the equivalent, someone to light the burners under these good players, and to sit the slugs till they feel the heat, or ask to be let go.
Fire Lalonde. Make a splash in 2025 free agency. Hopefully a strong puck moving defender. And playoffs 2025. Mainly because Husso and Holl are gone for sure. That’s 7 mil. Not including other possible trade offs. Just that 7 mil alone will get that defenseman. I bet asp at least will be on the ahl roster. Able to be brought up at a phone call.
Petry will be gone.. holl chiarot gustaffson all have another year left under contract.
@ Holl is gone next year for sure. But ya I forgot about that last year. He will be bought out. So maybe not 8 mil cause buyout cost.
Its obvious that we are not a contender, So I believe this is the time to bring up Danielson and MBN.
I would feel better about not being a playoff team, If there were efforts being made to get some NHL Xp under our future Top guys sooner rather then later. Danielson and MBN are No less prepaired than Ray and Mort were when they were thrust into important roles, and Det is clearly not winning a series against a top 3 in Any division.
They will let ND and MBN overripen not to accelerate their ELC and not have to pay more in RFA. The less a player is known to the league the less competition for an offer sheet.
They have been doing this for decades.
People bitching about Detroit and how many teams still never won a cup and are always in a rebuild..derp
Detroit went old and I thought they were going to sneak into the last playoff spot this year. They might have missed that opportunity. If they don't make it this year they probably suffer some die back.
I hope Montreal moves past detroit in the next couple years.
And not get no 1 pick
Bro! It's SaraAlli, NOT SaravEli.... C'mon man!
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