Pattaya Thailand, Current PRICES & Addiction Risks
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- Опубликовано: 23 сен 2024
- Discussing the Current Prices and risks of becoming Addicted
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Last year. I prearranged to stay with a girl I met the previous year. She was going to stay for my whole vacation 4 weeks. I thought that would be great. I didn't sponsor her, but occasionally Sent her the odd £50 and paid for her to get her wisdom teeth removed £150. The cost of her staying with me was 1000 baht per day, no bar fine or lady drink prices. I paid her weekly in advance. It was a bad mistake 1st and 2nd week was great. I had taken her to koh Larne and chiang mai. The 3rd week things started to get stale. She asked me to pay her for the final 2 weeks up front. Which stupidly I did. I started to notice money was going missing from my pocket so started to make a note of what was there before going to bed. I thought I might have miscounted. I didn't so confronted her. She flatly denied taking it. I told her to leave. But she had been paid for the remaining days. The advice I would give is never pat upfront never leave money lying around always put it in safe. Most importantly. Despite what you think of the girl never trust them. Good luck
She didn't get no wisdom teeth removed lmao.
@@masterchiff6784 wouldn't be surprised. Lesson learned tho
She fixed you up perfectly
Rent everything by the day.
@demonsbutterfly I'm coming back to pattaya in October. This time I'll be a butterfly
@user-kz3rw2ol3s yeah make sure u get a new one every night.
_”You need to remind yourself - constantly - that it’s all an illusion.”_
…Well said Daz
And he also said that for them it's just a job, not love.
We men prefer our sex with a loving woman,
not a clinically cold-acting human robot with female parts.
And that puts us at a huge disadvantage from the get-go.
And all that can cause us to behave like "Simps".
We men tend to look for acceptance:
acceptance of us as someone they would prefer to choose;
acceptance of us to allow us to touch their faces and bodies;
acceptance of us to touch them in their very private places;
acceptance of us to insert something (a part of our own bodies) into their very private places;
acceptance of us to continue to prolong the process of inserting into their bodies until we deposit our solution capable of creating new life within their bodies;
acceptance of our tendency to fall asleep immediately from the exhaustive process we just experienced;
acceptance of disregard for having left them halfway through their process to experience their final relief with their own attained finale of the sexual union which may likely be denied.
We expect them to accept all that.
So, they try to set the price.
It's at that point that we as men need to decide:
who sets the price, and
what you are willing to pay for and
how much your "dream experience" is worth.
It's a negotiation, not a date.
@@xavierkoolat6926 …You’re making sweeping assertions about what “we men” are all about. Guess what? You don’t get to do that. You don’t get to be the one who defines what men want, prefer, look for, or cause acceptance of. IOW, you’d be a lot smarter if you cut out the “we” stuff and keep your rants to first-person singular.
Its just a ride - Bill Hicks
I'm here right now April through June 2024. Been very happy with the quality of the girls. Lots of fun to be had. I stick to GC, massage, soi 6, and other little joints with rooms upstairs. Buy a LD or two and 1500 BHT for ST. Not having any problems enjoying myself or finding company.
enjoy your time I back in August cant wait 😀
@@marksallai2289 October for me. 😁
@@DiogenesTheFrog lady drink
GC ?
@@phillipharding6610 Gents Clubs
I love these types of videos, thanks Daz. They are not just for new comers but also good updates and refreshers for regulars 🙂
Your service is priceless 😊. Excellent information. Spot on !
Rule 1 you are a customer , Rule 2 you are a customer , Rule 3 you are a customer .
LOL. Right. It's just a business with no rules. Anything goes. WATCH out.
Rule 4, you are a ferang, and she will empty your wallet if you let her.
Make sure you get your money's worth for every cent. It's a service you're paying for.
Rule 4, she looks for a different customer and no like cheap Charlie
@@marcK599. They will always gravitate whoever gives the most support for the least effort and won't respect him.
LISTEN TO THIS MAN. Don't get attached. 1 Day Rule only - meet them - back to yours for fun - say goodbye at noon the next day. Repeat.
I want a studio, or apartment walking out onto the pool.
Just like in the West, nightclubs are for young people and they are welcome to them. For older people, stick to beer bars and gents clubs. Cheaper, quieter, more relaxed. I'm arriving next week and I have a list of 20 or so GCs in the Pattaya/Jomtien area to check out!!😃😃
I am much older and go all Nightclubs and met some cracking girls to dance with and Banter with and a (favourite 2k LT) - but hit gym - clean cut - dress reasonably smart and with great attitude - do not drink too much - I would agree with GCs thou and need to check some more out
I'm 49 and I also go to nightclubs. Sometimes I find a good one for 1500/2000 LT and sometimes they want more, therefore I go back to my hotel alone and save my seed for Soi 6 or a massage girl the next day.
@@simsima4636 What's the tip to a massage girl for all in?
55 been to nightclubs and done very well. I don't think it was a waste of my time.
@@simsima4636 Bro, in my opinion, it's acceptable once you get quoted 1500~2000 for LT in night club. the ST price in soi 6 are increased to 1500~2000 as well these days.
Such a different way of life.its literally like these girls totally understand what they are and that men will throw money at them so over time its like they have become so emotionally drained that they dont have simpathy for anyone except their families.as sweet and sincere as they seem its all about $..its really amazing how they turn off emotions yet come across as totally sincere #dontfallforit
One of my friends sponsored a girl. Swore she was special. Sponsored her for years, at one point got her a tourist visa to the US. On one trip, he notices she’s different. She confesses that she’s pregnant with some other dude’s kid.
100% spot on Daz, I am there right now and it took me a week to get into the groove. An arranged bar crawl from a bar on Soi Pothole opened my eyes, other experienced guys will put you right! 👍
Variety is the spice of life!
Last two trips i stopped barfining and started using the on site rooms.
Made life far simpler and limit chance of residual feelings.
And cheaper 😁
On-site rooms in soi 6 beer bar are very small and narrow.
@@ericzhu8222 Red Point Bar, not small at all.
Also, learn to say NO. Very important. In a bar. Because many of the girls will want you to buy them a drink. Not just one girl. But many. It will make you feel great. “Wow. All these girls around me!”
But your bill will be adding up quickly. So you have to tell all the ones who you don’t really want to be with, NO. No drinks. Only the one you like. To really be with. It will save you lots of money.
Don’t worry about being so negative towards the girls. They are used to it. It’s part of their job.
100% When you go at each night you mentally need to be prepared to say "NO", nicely, several hundred times. That's okay, it is normal, you have to say NO to get to the right YES! You are not going to offend anyone unless you act like you mean yes and say no later. They save "face" when you are nice about it and early.
Very true but problem I have is I have too many "friends" in too many bars I'm ok saying no but when it's someone I know I feel obligated too buy a drink if I haven't seen them in a long time this also adds up quick
its a fun thing to experience at a agogo when your sat with 4 or 5 girls and you feel like you need more then 2 hands lol but yes your bill can add up so fast a shot at a agogo can be 200 baht or more so that means a round of drinks can be over 1k baht each time and thai girls love there tequila.
No is the best word any man can say to any woemyn, and often … 😂
Careful boys 👊 your nothing more than A walking ATM machine to these girls 😭
Having just returned from Pattaya and can confirm the prices are crazy, the volume of drink Queens to me seem to have increased, I’ve also noticed the beers bars tend to have a lot older Thai women working in them lately.
One good looking lady told me that many of the younger girls have returned to home province during low season as business has slowed down a lot. Thus that leaves the older ones that want to stay and ride it out.
@@clrodrick It's one of the drawbacks of the low season.
I have had good luck with a few 36-40 year old girls tucked into some of the soi 6 bars. The ones I have "connected with" are not fat and decent looking.
@@robparksusa8048
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The young girls are in Soi 6. No need for LT. Easily boom boom upstairs 😍😍😍
@@robevans8625 That's the reason you should never buy more than one drink before bringing up barfines.
@@robevans8625Yes, it's changed in the last few years. I was there in March and most girls were disinterested. Wanted a drink or 10 but no boom boom. My impression is that they are all waiting for the handful of young Koreans or other young weekend millionaire Asians. Having said that, I got dragged into one Soi 6 bar by one of the youngest prettiest girls on the street who hinted boom boom within the first 10 seconds. She was brilliant, and no, not a lady boy.
@@robevans8625 happens anywhere, proper vetting is going to flag that in one drink and done. Why the heck would someone buy five or ten LD without having vetted wg by drink #2.?. That's a rookie move 110% on the punter.
Ive reported you peedo
What are the rooms like on Soi 6 mate ? Clean enough ?
I frequent the night clubs in Patts, all bottles come with 4 mixers and a bucket of ice. Most bottles are 2000 baht or less. Premium bottles like Grey Goose etc can go for 3000-4000 baht mixers included
NEVER EVER ever send money to a girl once you go home. Its a scam. Dont buy into sponsorship. You can take the girl out of the bar but you CAN'T take the bar out of the girl.
This idiots that send the girls money has ruined patts
Old saying that - yes if you Sponsor a girl not best idea she also may have many Sponsors 😆
I've got a good pal; well-heeled, and KNOWS these rules, but he always 'falls' for some girl. Pines away for her like a teenage boy with his first boner...observes his behavior and KNOWS...but he still does it.
They probably earn more than you a month from a few sponsors 🤷🏾
@@SpicyRightWing yup. Glad you think you know how much I make. Good one.
I wouldn't even bother with one drink. If they want me to purchase a lady drink, my response is, "Do you bar fine?" Their response tells me whether I want to purchase a lady drink or not. I never liked the bar scene since I was a teenager.
You shock me with the current prices mentioned, in March it was usually even cheaper. This time I decided to go with a holiday girlfriend; we have already negotiated the "employment contract". That halves the costs. I am aware of the risks and, thanks to your valuable tips, I am well prepared.
You are so right about the feelings in the western country. It’s all business. I actually felt like I’ve been on a date in Thailand., much much better
Very good information, a lot of people think you can go to Thailand and have a great time for $50 a night. More like $150 a night.
The advice is excellent.
Working girls know the punters so well.
They are experts at separating punters from their money.
You are right, I've heard people say this , you can live like a King on $100 a day.
There's no way you'll do this .
You go to the bar , your buying drinks for yourself and the girls. Your doing shots. You pay the Mama san. The girl wants to eat you get a taxi to the hotel because you're a bit drunk and then you have to pay the girl. All on $50 no feckin way.
$150 at least.
It's not the girls set out to be dishonest,it just becomes the way of life.
It's just Asian girls take it to another level.
They have a great advantage.
In other countries bar girls know it's a short time get the money and you don't see the guy again.
In Thailand the girls know the 3 day rule so they do everything to be with you longer (Your paying)
If they are good and they work the guy right they'll be getting money from him even when he's not in Thailand.
And of course they have all the stories because the other girls tell them this is a good story to give them.
how ridiculously expensive and changed it has become, thanks for the update and warning.
The wealthy guys from the Asian countries keep the prices sky high because they're willing to pay the price.
Was down Soi 6 in March. Prices highest ever but perhaps only one potential customer for every 10 girls.
@@stephanguitar9778 they flat out refuse 1000-1200?
@x7zy-xx how much for st now then?
Nightwish bars it's 1k-2k just for the barfine itself@@x7zy-xx
Thanks for keeping us updated, you're always very good of doing that. So you got a like too, as always. Thanks Daz
I just saw a post online about an average looking girl asking for 2000 on soi 6 and getting it. Belive me, she would never ask for more than 1000 if the customer was a thai. Its completly outrageous how they are overpricing. Well.. lets hope they enjoy their new Pattaya with few customers..
Just back from Cha Am. Bar fine 300 baht and LT 2,000 baht on Soi Bus Stop. Two weeks, morning to night. Very accomodating. Suited me perfectly. Went on a road trip down the coast to Prachaup Khiri Khan, then back up the coast with stops in Hua Hin and elsewhere. Pattaya's wild, but also wildly expensive.
My last trip (early May 2024) I found Myth Night very good. Young girls and not ridiculous bar fine prices. I hope it keeps getting busier so more young attractive girls come.
Some of those prices cheaper to go to soapy and you don’t have to get them out the door.
Or a massage shop 😅
Soapy is great
Soapy joints are great....no headaches after boom boom, haha.
@@lcmr123 some massage shops are very good too 😅
@@lcmr123 there are the two that are a short walk from each other on second road usually one or the other will have something you are looking for
1000 ST, 2000 LT. This has to be the default prices for most bars , except gogos maybe. If anyone gives more, I think they just increase prices for all other people. If we stick to it most probably prices will return to 2010's. For LT it can be 1500 too, if you had some drinks together and she likes you. Behaving well, looking good helps, you don't have to be handsome but you have to be well-groomed. Regards.
always check your receipt in the check bin every time you buy drinks especially in a go go bars and only ever buy one drink for one lady as you will have everyone including the service staff asking you for drinks if you don't! you have to remember it's their job to extract as much cash from you as possible!
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This February was probably my last visit in Pattaya for some time. The scene has changed for the worse in a considerable fashion. The only place that has young and attractive girls is Soi 6 - however - the noise pollution from all the bars waging loudspeaker wars is a travesty. The constant shouting of the girls does not help. What normally used to be the solution for that - Gents Clubs - went straight downhill as far as quality of the staff is concerned. In some areas it so downhill that it is in fact an appalling experience with downright, no two words about it, ugly old women working the Gents Clubs. Heaven Above on Soi Boomerang is an exception to this, but you need to take into account it is not your typical GC, it has a bit of AGOGO flair to it. The AGOGO scene on LKMetro has some very nice looking ladies, but they are 99% LD queens and fail to provide a relaxed atmosphere. Walking Street is no better, as it is primarily populated by Indians and Koreans. The venuses cater to them.
There are some good GC around still but yes also poor ones.
I miss the videos where Daz would also warn people the quality is way down but he rarely mentions it anymore.
Spot on m8 I was a manager in a gogo bar in soi diamond 15yrs ago and the girls where fun and happy 500barfine 1000 baht lt ..Happy days😅
I was happy with girl quality and (as I have argued with others) the prices are relative peanuts for a lady. I went to purple, kinnaree and one other but the name escapes me, plenty of nice looking women. Stated again prices are reasonable. Plus or minus 500 / 1000 baht it's only 16 to 30 US dollars.
@@robparksusa8048 Kinaree is very good indeed, the classic GC, but keep in mind it is very different from the other Gents Clubs out there - the business model is that the ladies there are actually freelance, so you can see more healthy supply-demand dynamics there. It is also quite remote from the Central area.
You can always ask the girl if she bar fines before she tries to drag you into her bar. If she says no she does not bar fine then simply replying “Sorry, no honey, no drinks money. Bye!”
No Lay, No Pay!😂
Gotta be a butterfly and be very choosy, you are just a customer but you have what they want and they should earn it because they don’t care about you ultimately 🇬🇧🇹🇭
Spot on Daz about being with a working girl here in Pattaya. It's not anything like a business transaction, it's more like a date , because when you leave the bar with her and go for a meal or another bar then it is more than what's happening. Because you get a girl in the west and go on a date that's what you do , plus the food is so cheap
If someone want to pay 1000 st for a more average looking girl then it can be done with negotiation. They would never ask more than 1000 from thais(proberbly accept under 1000). Look at the bars, there are few customers.
“Cold and emotionless” soooo depends on the woman that you end up with. I met a girl at Club Fate that made my weekend. I even took her to BKK with me when I was headed back to the airport. Nothing was off limits and she literally didn’t ask me for anything… I bought lady drinks as soon as her glass was empty, but she spent two nights with me and didn’t ask for a single baht, and because I was impressed by that, I just gave her everything I had on me at the airport. She ended up doing pretty well. I can’t remember when I’ve had a better time.
Why do you think girls go to the airport with customers ???
@@everythingPattaya To make sure you don’t end up with another girl.
I am in Karon Beach Phuket, May 2024. Beer 80 to 100, lady drinks 150 to 200. Bar fine 500, overnight 2000 plus. The girls in the massage shops do not involve bar fines and drinks but will meet you after work for the night, for 2000 plus. Karon is very quiet compared to Pattaya, but it is easy to find women who say they love you.
What a fantastic video wish it didn’t end.. very interesting and informative with a different perspective on the nite market. Thank you so much
Glad you enjoyed it!
The prices of bar fines, ST & LT have just gone crazy lately 😱. I've been living here for about 8 years, and in that time my income has increased by about 33%. But the price increase of fun has gone up by about 160%. Used to be able to have a good night out get some company for the night and spend about 4000 baht all in. Not anymore sadly.
But even saying that If you have time and look about you can still find a LT for 1000-1500 Baht + a small BF. I've even got a few regular girls that will sometimes just want taking out for food. I guess the benefit of living here. 😀. So my advice is think about it first. Wise men say, only fools rush in.🤣
yes prices gone way up. Maybe setting up for a crash?
I too find girls for 1000 LT usually around soi Diana, Lengkee and exite, but below average and pushing 50.
@@sgt.spiffymcfry9605 Yeah your not gonna get a supermodel for that money, but hey they're still lovely girls and a lot of fun. It's not like I'm an Adonis anyway. 🤪
The quality is terrible @1000 baht LT
Another brilliant video! Thanks for all your hard work! 👍👏🏻❤️
If you're on a budget, Forget nightclubs and bars! Just go to walking street at 3am & negotiate with any freelancer or "liberated" bar girl for the best deals!
Grosse
IMO this is fresh off the plane pricing. This is far from what guys that know their way around and are flexible are paying. And yes, I'm here now.
or have a ladyboy for 500 baht
@ 3am ya better know how to spot lady boiz!
Should have put quotation marks around the word 'girl' too.
My first trip to Thailand was to Phuket in 2007. I saw a girl on the other side of the street during the day and ended up with her for about 5 nights. The first 2 nights were freebies, the 3rd night she asked for 500 Baht and then 1000 Baht the last 2 nights.
Good old days.
1995 in Patong I had a pretty 20yo girl for "free". Two weeks. Then day before I went home she asked some money for her rent( I stayed in her room the whole time )and I happily gave her 5000 baht. Yeah, good times.
One areas you never mention is for the older guys freelaners at the music bars ie bamboo and billabong.
Appreciate your updates and information!
I am in Pattaya right now and kind of surprised at how high prices are even in low season! Sorry but I am not buying 150-200 baht LD for anyone not at least a 7 or higher. Sadly so many of the beer bars don't even have a 7 working there they are all 3-5s. Don't get me wrong I'm sure some are very nice and decent personality, but if I'm paying for drinks I would like to be at least a bit attracted to them.
I just use ThaiFriendly for ST aerobics for 1500-2000 a shot. Done a few pub crawls to see what is new in the GC area. Got a GC lady I have done a few LT with as she is not just great looking but a lot of fun too! Only 3000 for LT with her which I guess is considered a deal now crazy as that sounds.
People just need to know you are highly highly unlikely going to meet your long term match in Pattaya it just so rarely happens. My friend did though which is great for him. Sometimes you can meet Thai ladies on holiday which can lead to something.
Coming to Pattaya first time this year. My question should be easy for veterans of Pattaya........what is the best month for the greatest access to the girls. I mean, I don't want to come when the place is over-loaded with dudes and you're having to "complete" for the girl's attention and time.....I don't want to stand in line. I can stay home and be ignored by western women.....I don't want to travel all the way to Pattaya only to face a staggering number of guys completing with me for the same young lady's attention........but I also don't want to get stuck in a monsoon either. So what is the best the month to get easiest access to the girls.....with minimal dudes standing your way?? Please advise.
If using TF / Cupid , a video call is essential , the munters are a many on dating sites , photo shopping is endemic , you have been warned .🧐
They perfected the girlfriend experience. Never forget that and that is their strength of these women. I'm smarter after 3 times. Play the same game as them. Be nice but if they don't do what you like, let them go. It's your holiday.
Just booked my ticket and will be there at the end of June!!!
Same here. Arrive 6/27
@@b1rch995 30 MORE HOURS FOR ME!!!
May the Force be with you, young Jedi !!! Seriously have a great time just remember it's the floating world as they say in Japan.
How excited are you feeling?
@@googleuser2609 excited. Been watching all the videos lately and I’m not a young pup so just gonna be at the chill spots and the beach to relax.
Was in Pattaya in April, never paid more than 2000 for LT
Im in my 50s and a pattaya veteran, im still paying 2000 LT, the only thing ive found is BF have gone up from 300 to 500.
Im a beer bar guy, no Gogos for me.
I remember when LT was 809-1000 baht for quality girls 😭
Particularly for newcomers I recommend starting out by going on some of the organized bar craawls in the beginning. It encourages visiting a number of bars and by being in a group of men it means you won't get swarmed by a bunch of girls. That gives you a chance to observe what really goes on in the clubs, which is radically different from what you will see in Western clubs.
Never been. Getting ready to go. Getting excited. But so thankful for your sage advice!!! Please more!!!
Farang are in love, Thai girls are in business
It is their business to sell Farangs Love!😂
Guys will never learn this
40 USA- never been to Thailand and dying to finally go….to prepare I’ve been on TF app and Line ID for the last month to test the waters and I have my location in pattaya so they think I’m there…. It’s wild how many messages I get and the ST prices range from 1000-1500 I think to see if I bite- if I tell them it’s my first time before they say a price they will start at 1200-1500 even 2000 one tried to bait me in… It very educational almost like I’m there and how they butter you up. I can see how some try the long game with me saying about her family and her farm and I should visit…. If I haven’t binged watched these pattaya videos I might have fallen for some because they are pretty attractive…..Also it’s tricky because some want to video call you and days are opposite in the states - daylight when they expect night…
I’ve noticed how they start first thing in the morning ST right away I wonder how many they can do in a day?3-4? More? What’s the ideal target these girl shoot for? Cheers
Regarding prices, ThaiFriendly is good value at around 1.5 to 2 k for ST. No bar fines or drinks needed
Very COLD and impersonal just like in the west, why bother, AND you are spending a fortune on airfare and Hotel, just stay home
Agreed except 90% of them don't look as good as their photos. Always try to video call before the first time meeting
@@mateor7302 Nailed it , video call .
@@mateor7302 That was my experience too. Filters are so common that even the attractive girls will use a filter, which is strange to me. lol So it's a real gamble who will actually show up. Oh and instagram video calls have filters too. great... XD
@@mateor7302 Big time! Lots of photoshop & doctored pics.
I absolutely see how Pattaya can be addictive. I just got back from my first visit. I felt like a man who stumbled on an oasis in the desert. I started off my trip a bit shy, but by the last week I was getting ST a couple times in the afternoon, and then barfining 2 and 3 gogo dancers for LT every night. I made the Korean guys look like cheap Charlies. 😂 I spent 15k usd in 3 weeks. Best experience I've ever had. Already planning a return visit, and working out in my head how to work remotely from Pattaya. There's no going back now 😆😂
You need help.
Umm why spend 15k a week on women dude just open a bar
Trust me if you re-locate to Pattaya your patterns will change. You won't be spending $15 grand USD every three weeks...
@@KCMOSlayer339 Dude said 3 weeks
Remember it’s like heroin, first time is great and although every hit/trip after that is very enjoyable you’re always chasing that first high.
I went to Pattaya twice last year and I'm in my late 50's. You can still get girls in nightclubs Daz. In Insomnia they would cheers you with their drink and smile and you could follow it up or not. I was just dancing by myself with beer in hand and they came up to me. I had the best experience with a young cutie dancing in a hot grind with her for a while in the club with hands everywhere. I was going to take her back to the hotel and finish what we started but as we were leaving I realised how intoxicated she was and changed my mind lol Still, the dance I had with her was more erotic than a lot of the actual sex acts I'd been having and I didn't pay anything. Maybe it was because I hadn't paid that made it hot.
I'm 58, and I've taken home at least a half a dozen women from Insomnia, so it's not impossible.
Thank god I got to experience Thailand and Pattaya from 2007 for 10 years or so whilst it was still crazy and prices were still reasonable. So many great memories and places from many trips. I last went in 2019 just before COVID hit but haven't had the urge to go back since because I think the vibe of the place had changed for the worse I'm afraid.
Pattaya seems to be relying on different demographics with each passing year and the prices although to be expected to rise to some extent aren't really sustainable (especially in gogos). I used to think it would be a place to retire but not so much now. The place has still a very fond place in my heart but the pull isn't as strong as it was years ago.
You always share the best advice Daz!. For the new guys visiting I will share words of wisdom that I have posted before. An old friend of mine who is also an attorney gave me this advice years ago.
"Men fall in love. Women are in business"
This seems to apply to Thai women quite accurately.🤣. There are international schools in Thailand Daz. There is no reason that I can think why Thai ladies can't teach Western women the same techniques that are so effective in a new kind of international school.😅. You are correct Daz that the GFE is a fantasy and can be very fun. If the GF cooks for you that better be real and not a fantasy.😂
Glad we got to enjoy thr the GoGos on walking St. 10yrs ago at reasonable prices
There was a post WW1 saying in the US about the returning soldiers : How are you gonna keep them on the farm once they've seen Paris ?
Thanks for the "fatherly" advice. Makes me more comfortable when I make it out there. Cheers 🥂
I tell them ST 1000 no more. Most will try to get more but some will accept. Ok they’re not agogo quality but ST isn’t worth more than 1000 IMO. Never overpay ALWAYS walk away is the golden rule!!!
ST 1000 sounds a bit low more like 1200 - although I did have a shock when one said 400 baht late at night lol
@@marksallai2289 was the lady that charged 400 THB "agogo quality" ? 🤔
I barfined a girl from a well known gogo bar last year. She was a stunning girl 10 plus. 800 bf and 2000 ST that lasted until morning.
Same gogo bar this year. 1500 BF and 3000 ST. That's inflation lol.
@@germanfalang8897…There’s no way at 400 THB she was gogo bar quality. Remember, there’s quantity and there’s quality. For me it’s quality every time. Don’t you want the kind of girls you’ve never been able to get back home? Sure, you can get the 2’s, 3’s, and 4’s - even at home more than likely. But in Thailand you can get the 8’s, 9’s, and 10’s, and you can get them for a fraction of what you’d pay at home - if that.
@@JeddieT well ... I was joking 😂🤣😅
Spot on Daz ... although a fairly newbie ...when i went soon worked out the score ...but like you said you have to be so careful...Have fun and enjoy.. cheers
I've decided to visit Pattaya. Keep up the great vlogs 👍🏻
Accurate updates Daz.
I myself loved and been umpteen times to pattaya, knew exactly the prices but damned, i craved attention and fall in love with them easily + nxt thing i knew, i let loose my wallet! Again and again.
I need help....😂
Not going to happen to me... i LOVE money more than any working girl. I don't pay them to stay, I'm paying them to leave.
Good man
Easier said than done
We must bring prices down.
You're really making it sound like times have very recently changed so much (lot's of young guys, especially Koreans, prices going up, desirability of over-40 expats going down) that it's not a good place to retire after all. You're almost talking me _out_ of retiring there.
Wow those prices have changed. I remember 10 years ago a short time on Soi 6 was 700 baht. The only times I would pick up in a nightclub is if it was way too late for my bar girls. You have given some great advice here everything pattaya. Everyone falls in love the first couple of visits haha, it really can be overwhelming. I would advise a few things, never say it's your first time there, don't flash around your money and don't be a cheap charlie and please show respect to them all.
Thai woman just want your money , Never Fall In Love with them .
in fairness....you just described all women.
@@davidlemaster2034 truer words have never been spoken...ever.
It wasn’t like that 25 years ago. Now it’s a business
I've heard that the flea market at the southern end of Buah Khao is operating every day now. So that sounds pretty permanent for a city centre market. It's a great one as well especially for shirts and underwear.
Really interesting advice! Sound and wise! This is quite possibly one of the best advice videos -- ever.
Good information here. You should know if you want company by the second drink. My rule was by the first drink. If you not interested by first drink then move on to the next.
I happened to see another video at the Coconut Bar and overheard a girl quoting 1500 baht. Is she overcharging for a Beach Road price?
Good advice. It is a shame more won't see this. I'm a butterfly. I tend to stay with one for a while, until I get bored or get distracted. But always move on. But for holiday guys, I guess the ticking clock is a problem. Regardless, don't have a relationship with a bargirl. Never, ever do it. They always have secrets and you will never know about it/them....until it's too late. The bar host thing is a fine example. So many men have no idea that their teerak will go and spend their hard earned money on some young Thai guy for bedroom fun. That should tell any foreigner where the ladies priorities are.
Wealth of Knowledge. Pay attention Boyz
Hopefully guys remember it is a "vacation". Enjoy and watch costs. Above all it is not a "relationship" which you pursue at your peril. Go for good companionship and not only looks. You do not want to be used. Never forget it is only a "transaction".
Coming to Pattaya first time this year. My question should be easy for veterans of Pattaya........what is the best month for the greatest access to the girls. I mean, I don't want to come when the place is over-loaded with dudes and you're having to "complete" for the girl's attention and time.....I don't want to stand in line. I can stay home and be ignored by western women.....I don't want to travel all the way to Pattaya only to face a staggering number of guys completing with me for the same young lady's attention........but I also don't want to get stuck in a monsoon either. So what is the best the month to get easiest access to the girls.....with minimal dudes standing your way?? Please advise.
@@davidlemaster2034 Suggest Nov./Dec. because traffic comes down. It is cooler. Avoid Dec. 20 - Jan. 10 because of holidays and always busy. There after slower until April/May. By May visitors pick up. Also, try going earlier instead of later. Afternoons it is slower, but picks up close to 6 pm.
@@kiyoshitakeda452 good advice....but are girls not as eager to be bar fined earlier in the evening? or will they simply charge more for a longer night?
Omg 😲 what happened with the prices! Thanks for the warning, Daz. Might be time to think about going somewhere else. 🤔
Is it OK to just get a soda and get straight to the bar find 155 on top of the 300+1000 and pay them that’s no longer cheap at all
Been going to Thailand most years since 1991. The thrill has gone from the p4p scene now and there are much better hunting grounds around the world now. I still love and visit Thailand, but not for p4p😉
Any places in Central America or South America you would recommend?
Good one Daz. I laugh when hearing about young guys being so prolific here. Remember 1990's when I first came here, I thought there were so many old guys! Now that I am 66 years old, there are definitely more young guys and I'm now the older guy! 555
Good video thanks for the updates I am retiring next year moving to Thailand Pattaya next year
Been going since 2006. ST or LT is not worth more than 2,000 bht. Maybe I am getting older but for the horizontal exercise, it is never worth that much ... anywhere.
It's market driven and unfortunately the Koreans have driven that up 😅
Maybe should check out Laos, could be less tourist there.
I'll be out there in September, I know I'm going to go to Soi 6 to experience it, but I think I'll stick to the gents clubs. Thanks for all of this info Daz!
Spot on! Avoid the drink queens! I know a few of them. They told me they make more by staying in the bar and having the guys buy the ladies drinks (juice). 20 drinks is considered a slow night for the girls on WS. Add they can do Only Fans to make more cash, they never want to BF with anyone. The climate in Pattaya in changing quick. I may start searching for other places to go.
Walking street in Pattaya is horrible, just avoid it completely. LK metro, treetown, any bars on smaller streets. It does take some work if you are on the pickier side as you might have to move around to a few different bars to find the gems.
They will sometimes ask for gold and sell it back to the shop.
Another trick is to ask for a new mobile phone.
They will convince you to go and buy a phone and she'll pick an expensive one. Later she will sell it back to the shop.
in nightclubs, I order a beer, 40 baths then I go chat with the girls. 4000 baths for a bottle, you should be crazy ^^
The market at the beginning and the 747 market, are they priced okay. I remember in another video you said some markets are a rip off. Thanks for another great video.
Most young Korean guys live with their parents until they get married. These trips to Thailand are probably the only chance they get to be alone with a girl. So they will pay whatever the price as it would be less then half back home.
I wonder if there is a stigma in Korea as there is else where if you go visit ?
Yeah, Chinese guys told me ,no girlfriends in China rich guys get the best looking 1 !.
This is because the sex ratio in Korea is very poor.
If there are 8 men, there are 2 women.
In Korea, can not go to other countries by car.
The only way to get there is by plane or ship.
So I don't know much about international prices.
The same goes for the prices of Thai women.
Some Koreans are stupid and like to show off their wealth.
They also tend to be reluctant to ask for negotiations.
wow these beer prices and lady drinks are crazy
It’s all apparent, but it feels so real. Which is why it’s so hazardous to wealth.! You are there for a good time, not a weary one. Never forget you are in the hands of a consummate professional and likely to be well out of your depth. However pumped or desirable you think you are.! Any issues or lack of chemistry pay your pot and go… Try a little of everything, give little away, scrub up well, never be a cheap Charlie, smile at every one. Leave nothing behind, grin all the way home.! 😀
Dirk was bedeutet ST?
@@Anonymos321 kurze Zeit 1-2 Stunden Spaß
Well done
Some sound advice.
I appreciate this video and the update. I definitely won't be spending the time and money to fly to Pattaya. I can be in Cartagena, Colombia in 3 hours or less. The prices are comparable but the quality of women is much higher. When I went to Pattaya in the early 2000s, the women looked much younger and hotter.
1 hour rule Soi 6 upstairs 1k-2k max handle your business go to different Soi 6 bar 2 hours later. If they like you they will call you after work 2k LT if you into long time. I like 1 hour and move on NSA. Be a butterfly. But if you like GFE do what makes you happy. It’s not about $. It’s about what you want to do. It’s your $. But you don’t want to overpay it messes up the market.
U have to love the heat if u go now because u drip sweat from the time u go outside
That is the truth. I barely last 5 minutes right now during afternoon before I feel I need to shower again!
Enjoy, don't overthink! Set a budget. if the girl is getting too greedy, then move on to the next girl. Can you imagine going home and receiving a warm welcome, a hot dinner and a nice massage with a Western lady? You lose more than half of your wealth as soon as you get married in the west. But if you keep giving the Thai girl a little something, they will treat you emotionally and physically well. Can we say the same about Western ladies? Especially if you end up with a frigid one. So which "scam" do you prefer?
Wow those prices are really so over the top now . No wonder Vietnam and Cambodia getting so popular . Glad I’m not playing that game anymore .
excellent info and advice as always, thx Daz
Daz, what experience do you have with freelancers by the beach road?
I have tried a few, but they are strictly all about business and getting back on beach road asap, so I never bother any more.
I think it's better to just sign up to ThaiFriendly. So easy to find plenty of FL'ers that are good looking and reasonable price. Get their Line and then you can message them to meet whenever the feeling strikes
I walk full lenght of the beach every day, South part of Coco 'bar' older & chubby some 5, North part (from the Wave Hotel) younger ones , but too many families on the beach, some Afro girls chubby too, a few fake 'Russians', hordes of Indians (they think they'll get pussy for BHT 300) , hate to see when 3-4 of them stand around single girl. After 2 am ,foot traffic stops & few girls a still around ...........you'll never see working 8-9-10 there !.Hotties show around 4 pm to film them self on the beach Hilton-Central area ............