Fun Fact:The Star Wars Galaxy is 120,000 light years when the Milky Way in modern studies is over 200,000 light years and when the Star Wars Galaxy is 400 Billion stars, the number of stars in the Milky Way is 100-500 Billion Stars.
Hmm, I heard the Milky Way was the same size or smaller - I suppose it depends where one considers the 'edge' to be. But 400 billion stars, of varying sizes, is commonly stated - guess it may be out of date.
@@chrissonofpear1384 The studies that say the milky way is 200,000 light years is from 2018. They put an estimate between 170,000-200,000 light years, I see a lot of people saying that 95,000-100,000 is already an outdated calculation
@@Ken_Koonz Yes, the Orinda campaign. When Pellaeon became the supreme commander of the newly united Empire he initiated a campaign to retake Orinda. When the New Republic responded he led the SSD Lusankya in a trap where he fought it with his own SSD the Reaper and a second SSD (the Dominion) he kept secret as an ace and forced the NR to retreat without harassing the Empires space again for a longer time.
splendid job with this! I too, would prefer for Luthen to be anything OTHER than a Jedi because it DOES make all of his actions and sacrifices even doubly difficult for him and yet, he does them ANYWAY - excellent job with this :)
Yeah. On top of being prime locations to recover ancient artifacts to sell (thus reinforcing his cover) it could also be places where he is attempting to learn more about the Sith and the dark side in general to discover ways that they can be defeated or undermined.
If Luthen is a jedi, I feel like he only achieve the rank of padawan before his actions were deemed too aggressive to be a jedi, thus leaving him exiled from the order well before the Clone Wars. Perhaps the kyber crystal he gave Andor was his then
I for one am way too personally fucked up in the head to ever make it in the Jedi. I feel like the fact they more or less convince or kidnap kids must be necessary at as young an age as possible because if they pick up some 15 year old that hates his parents and got molested by his uncle and smokes space weed and dreams of playing in a space metal band - not a good jedi does that make most likely. The more of a blank slate someone is, and the fewer opinions they have about anything at all, the easier it is to teach them or indoctrinate them into jedi philosophies as well as being able to engage them in the physical activity necessary to make their bodies capable warriors eventually My reasoning is also that the earlier you start a kid on martial arts the better they usually are - perfect example is Floyd Mayweather Junior, undefeated, one of the best of all time in Boxing, his style is super good at having a long career with little damage taken and he started learning all of this at the age of like 4 or 5? Something like that is when his dad got him into it. I got into karate at like 8 or 9 and the hip flexibility is still with me at 35 - it never leaves you in other words, even if i got morbidly obese id still be flexible as fuck tbh - so its similar to as to why the Chinese government forces parents to get their daughters into gymnastics at age 2 or 3 - because the human body is very malleable at that age and cushioned against injury - toddlers are way more flexible and can learn at a much faster and more permanent rate than anyone older.
@@MetaNerdzLore The Sith species are given a brief mention in *Star Wars Workbook: 3rd Grade Reading and Writing*, and are considered canon. Who knows, maybe someday we'll see them again?
I just thought of something interesting. In the book stories of jedi and sith one of the chapters is a non force sensitive boy who wanted to be a jedi. In the story he eventually admits he can't be a jedi but Yoda says more to a jedi than the force. Basically saying the kid can be part of the jedi order without being a jedi. It would be interesting if the kid grew up to be Luthen. Someone who is not force sensitive but accepted as a caretaker of sorts. And friend of jedi. This can explain a lot while at the same time making him not force sensitive but aware of palpatines true evil.
If Luthen was revealed to be a former Jedi it would be the biggest let down of the entire show. I agree that he seems to be a former separatist spy or something like that
I'd be so mad if he was some sort of secret space wizard. The jedi are the least interesting thing to me in SW. I wanna see more assassin droids. Preferably HK models. With the hk47 voice actor.
@@jamesw3413 oh absolutely man. I cannot fucking stand him or Josh. Trying gatekeep Star Wars by saying, “If you like Andor, you don’t like Star Wars.” Such an asinine thing to say
We have intel for Charros, this is where the vulture droids were build by the Xi Char factories in legends Edit : same for Kwenn, there is a space station where rebel spies tried to hide in legends
Nice job! Someone had to put all that together and i am glad to see someone dissected it ;) I may not be in the majority, but i think it would be great if Luthen was somehow connected to the force. His speech showed that he had to cut himself off from the force, probably a survival tactic. Calm, kindness, kinship... condemned to use the tools of my enemies … I burned my life to make a sunrise i know I'll never see … This guy was a devout Jedi who lived and loved the order. When 66 happened he was crushed and devastated, he truly lost everything and began his path to which there is no escape. Even if he only has a small amount of Force ability, i think it can only add to his inner conflict ;)
Love your videos. Keep up the great work that you do. Here are other interesting Topics that your going to find interesting Their are the Separatist Gendi Species, and Durge. Can you also do other topics like the the 4th precept The Bedlum Spirits , The Celestials, The ones, The AntiForce/Other Space The God of the Droids the maker Force Priest/The Whills Abeloth The Demon Sith God The Left hand God THE Mngal-Mnggal The Separatist super weapon the (Dark Reaper that revivals of the Death Star. ) The superweapon shocking device.( That can spread like marbles while destroying planets Stars, Galaxies, and Universes.) The Sith Stalkers Maulkiller Starkiller Galen Malek This is just some of them am naming
@@MetaNerdzLore You are. And I love it. You have my sincere gratitude and utmost respect for putting this together. I cross referenced your map with the maps in my The Essential Atlas and The New Essential Chronology. I get giddy when I see things connected to the ol' EU (Legends ba hum bug). It makes me hope they'll scrap the ST and start over.
8:05 I don't think night of a thousand tears has happened yet as that takes place after bo katan is given the darksaber by sabine which is more around 4 or 3 bby isn't it?
I love how personalized Luthen's ship is, with its AI, all sorts of personal belongings, an invaluable map, and so many mods made to the ship itself. So cool.
Having grown up in Aargau (Switzerland), I find it amusing that my canton was taken for a banking world when the neighboring canton Zurich is the actual banking centre of Switzerland.
11:43-11:48 Maybe this "Unidentified" world is actually Hast. It was a secret shipyard world used by The Mon Calamari for refitting, and repairing many of their ships. Since it was secret (Unlike Mon Cala, itself), it was incredibly valuable to The Rebellion for when ship refits, or repairs were ever needed, including The Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet you mentioned. Maybe Luthen would also use those secret shipyards for stuff relating to his Fondor Haulcraft ship.
ANAZING WORK! Great observations, and excellent intel. Love the callbacks to EU stuff that the new canon is starting to reintroduce in reimagined ways so far.
Better clarify what you mean about the Mandalorians... the "Night of a Thousand Tears" is several years in the future from Luthen's time in Andor s1. We don't have an exact time frame but it's presumed to be after Rogue One takes place, as Mandalore is reclaimed from the Empire in the last season of Rebels, which ends shortly before RO.
Atollon for me is the most interesting find, regardless of the Bendu, the planet was not on the empires star charts and was only discovered by the rebels because of the artwork on Lothal and through data from both Rebel and Imperial networks. Perhaps this does kinda indicate that Luthen is a Jedi? Maybe it's another one of those deleted from the jedi archive jobs, perhaps because of the Bendu? Correct me if I'm wrong but literally no one in the galaxy knew about the location of the planet until Rebels?
Clearly some people knew of it as there was artwork. This really adds to Luthen's background as an intelligence agent for who knows what side. For all we know he may have been the one to erase it from imperial records. If we ever get to see his backstory it would be interesting to see non-clone forces demobilizing at the end of the Clone Wars. While the bad batch is doing a great job of covering clones, we still have not seen a lot about figures who would have left service in the early years of empire.
At Star Wars Celebration, Tony Gilroy said Season 2 will reveal an Imperial energy weapon, so I think that's the Arc Pulse Generator which would tie into Mandalore.
Well ofc Ferrix and Saw's planet are also on that map somewhere. I think Ferrix is somewhere in the north-east considering it was under corporate control.
A small mistake with the Ssi-ruuk, they used entechment, which uses technology to rip the 'life energy' from sentients and use this energy to power their systems and droids not magic. Though Entechment and Enchantment are very similar words so I can see where you got confused. They were unknown to the known galaxy until the later days of the empire where they found that human energy lasted longer then other species and made a deal with Palpatine to give him this technology in exchange for human planets. As to how Luthen got to and survived an encounter with the murderous, zealous, slave keeping space raptors is a mystery.
8:02 Andor season one is in 5 BBY, well before the story arc on mandalore in season 4 of rebels, which predates the night of a thousand tears. so Andor is well before the night of a thousand tears, and is still under imperial rule (by way of appointed governors like the Saxons)
Luthen is almost surely Sean Dann, Art Carney's character from the holiday special. Beyond looks and how they act, guy owns a junk shop selling up stuff to imperials, claims to be a friend of the rebellion even if Leia doesn't recognize him, and he's adept at doublespeak :o they clearly had the holiday special in their head too when the doctor in Andor used the same practical effect for his extra arm that they did for a certain cooking show Malla watched
I feel that Luthen was most definitely involved with the Confederacy in some sort of capacity. Though he does not have Mygeeto to completely fill up the "Triad of Evil" alongside Saleucami and Felucia, he does have Aargau, another world for the IGBC. Perhaps some his hatred of the Empire is hatred he had for the Republic during the Clone Wars. Maybe that's another reason as to why Cassian stuck out to him so much: someone else who had everything taken from him by the Republic
i hope they never really explain Luthen's past, but i expect him to be either an Ex-Republic Intelligence officer or even Separatist intel officer. It would be lame if he was force sensitive but wouldn't surprise me if disney went that way since SW = xwing, ties, lightsabers and force users.
Dissapointed that Dantooine wasn't mentioned, as it was a safeworld for Rebels in Legends. There's literally 4 world marked around it, and yet that safeworld is not mentioned. Not to mention it has a connection to the Sith too.
Apparently Andor Season 2 is moving straight to Yavin 4. So looks like they're ignoring Dantooine lore from Rebels, which is weird, it was considered for Rogue One originally.
Didn't Palpatine wear an ancient Sith robe during his proclamation of the empire? Obviously the very tangible threat of fascism is enough of a motivator to rebel, but I still wonder if maybe Luthen saw and recognized that connection then and there. Anyway, probably took a whole lot of effort to deceipher and research this video and it really shows, great work
They do use space stations away from planets for traders and merchants to gather and meet and trade with each other. Being far from a planetary government can have its advantages. And as long as all it has to do is sit there, you can build something on a death star level so there are plenty of places to dock and store merchandise.
I’m desperate to see some of the planets we have visited in games make it to screen. Dathomir, Dantooine, Korriban and Naboo (again) being just some of lore-rich places I’d like to see in live action.
Apologies fir bringing this up again, but what uf you re made your old videos then everyone could still enjoy them for free, great job btw this video has clearly taken a long time
It would be cool if he wasn’t a Jedi or sith, but a explorer of ancient cultures and had all these connections just because he was fascinated with them but as time went on he realised he could use them to fund his plans to take down the empire.
Him and his shop have a huge intel network the dots not anywhere. I'm amusing they are relays left over from CIS or his own built, when your in the shop you can see some of the kit from some of the worlds. "Bibity bobatiy this is now my property" some antics sound about right. The bit where you see him getting into his persona, give a strong feeling of deep cover spy/intel specialist. What bug me is his ship is used when he is doing everything, if it was a real spy wouldn't he have the ship for every persona, or is this just gota have a "hero ship" detracting from spy games.
I'm thinking this ship was made in large numbers making it a very common sight around the galaxy. It would be like using a generic white Ford pickup truck irl.
An important note: Disney only suspended the Expanded Universe, they didn't exactly get rid of it. I assume that the main timeline and planets set out in the Star Wars the Essential Atlas are still "unofficially canon", because Disney has no reason to reinvent the Star Wars past. The main problem with the EU was everything that was written after New Hope, much of it contradictory or poorly written.
Well, they're rewriting Star Wars past with High Republic, so no, they can overwrite whatever they want. The past of the canon galaxy probably soon will look radically different than the EU past! They only use EU as placeholder to not upset the fandom until they write their version of the past. They also recently made canon exclusive map with canon planets, it's still based on Essential Atlas, but it's different now with some planets removed.
I think Luthen's "assistant" Kleya is the force user and mastermind, and Luthen is the muscle and on the front lines since he is clearly trained in 'tradecraft.'
ruclips.net/user/shortskF2gySqAzoc check it out it, I don't think so. I hope to use shorts like this to tag on to things from vids I put out and shortly address theories like this that pop up
Greetings, MetaNerds Lore I just wanted to ask you if you can do a video of the mysterious ship that the 3 inquisitors came out of in the 1st episode of Obi-wan Kenobi and if possible can you make a video of the fanon imperial predator-class battlecruiser.
Rael Averross would have access to this information from several sources. From his time as a Jedi and through his former master and any CIS locations left to him by that master.
Personally, much like the Yuuzhan Vong, & I’m using this term in the same way in the first episode of _Tsukuyomi: Moon Phase_ (english dubbed by Funimation), the only way to be immune to MOST of the Force, primarily its flow & influences, is to be Retarded towards it. Sure, if Palpatine shot lightning at me or a Jedi conjectured a small tornado to lift me up & hold me in place, I’d be affected because they’re using the force to influence everything else, just not me personally. Thus, I wouldn’t be surprised that certain people are, in a way, immune to direct attacks such as force push/force pull, but won’t be immune to that telekinetically moved boulder that is being hurtled towards me…
That's just not true - all beings who don't have some special aspect that repels active manipulation of the living Force are subject to the Force. There is absolutely no precedent in the entire Legends or Canon for the idea that being less Force sensitive makes you less vulnerable to the Force.
That isn’t exactly the point, @@charlesjenkins2090. Sure, nobody is going to be immune to the force, as I have specifically described at the end of my comment, but that doesn’t mean they can be resistant to the force by simply denying the force, i.e. a hypocritical paradox, borrowed by _Re:CREATORS_ , where you can’t pick yourself up & throw yourself. Here on earth, we have mitochondria. In that galaxy far far away, they have Midi-chlorians. Based on what I know & understand of _Star Wars_ lore, the force won’t work, or will barely work, here in our galaxy. Plus, we’d likely have an immunity due to not having Midi-chlorians, just Mitochondria…
@@nickvinsable3798 Star Wars is fiction dude I thought you were making yourself an analogy to Luthen or other hypothetical non Force sensitive people, but if you're talking about the Force in relation to you in actual reality...yeah who cares the Force isn't real
Well, which is it then, @@charlesjenkins2090? I’ve elaborated & pointed out its not impossible, then you’ve claimed its not true in the _Star Wars_ universe, then I’ve elaborated more, then you claim that its a work of fiction, which I’m completely aware about. Thus, are you losing it or something?
@@nickvinsable3798 Its not true in the SW universe, you then decide to start talking about something other than the SW universe, to which I say its fiction why are you talking about if Jedi (who don't exist) were to come to earth.
man, I gotta learn to use photoshop so I can do things like this. I can translate aurebesh fine, and get deep lore refrences, but whenever an unmarked map comes up im at a loss cus I don't know how to overlay it on known maps.
I definitely think there's a possibility that Luthen is indeed former CIS. I mean there are indications that he has been in this fight for long, + he constantly avoids ghe question about what faction he's aligned with. The Empire had a massive propaganda campaign against the seppies. So the chances are that people wouldn't work for him if he were to admit that he's a sep
Luthen appears to be a highly intelligent and resourceful individual. He may have heard rumors of the emperor being a Sith Lord, but I think that he’s intelligent enough to have sleuthed it out himself. In that era we have three facts about the Sith: the galaxy believed them to have been extinct for a millennia. The Rule of Two Sith stuck to the shadows to avoid detection and pulled a lot of Sith knowledge and artifacts into the shadows. And three, the Jedi considered anything related to the Sith to be taboo and forbidden by their own members, so most certainly did a good job of keeping it away from the rest of the galaxy. So I think instead of him having any kind of Force sensitivity, he probably made the connection that Palpatine is a Force user. If he was ex-CIS intelligence, he likely also figured out that Palpatine and the shadowy hooded individual who was rumored to run the CIS was the same person. He noticed that Palpatine wasn’t a Jedi and probably found a way to hide his Force sensitivity from the Jedi. If that’s true, then who could he be? What other group of Force users are out there that the Jedi would likely be opposed to? He probably knew history well enough to have at least a passing knowledge of the Sith, so decided he needed to learn more about them if he’s going to create a plan to get rid of Palpatine. That led to him going to planets with connections to the Sith to learn more about them and hopefully learn more about Palpatine. The Jedi artifacts, however were different. I’d say he was smart enough to figure out Palpatine duped the Jedi and led them to their own destruction, but also that some had survived that. If Palpatine is a Sith Lord, then the surviving Jedi would make for excellent allies against Palpatine and his empire. They’d need help, and the best way he likely felt he could help them is to collect as much Jedi stuff as he can so they can use it to stop the emperor and Vader, obviously knowing that Vader is also a Sith. I’d say he also banked on those surviving Jedi training more Jedi in secret, so would need Jedi things like holocrons and lightsabers.
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Yeah they hurt the channel analytics, I think they are such bad quality myself that I was gonna make them unlisted, but memberships mean they don't hurt the analytics
The idea of James Bond, Indiana Jones and Van Helsing rolled into one sounds VERY alluring!
Fun Fact:The Star Wars Galaxy is 120,000 light years when the Milky Way in modern studies is over 200,000 light years and when the Star Wars Galaxy is 400 Billion stars, the number of stars in the Milky Way is 100-500 Billion Stars.
Hmmm so we are longer and girthier but they have better sperm with more tails more or less.
why am i so weird with my analogies....
Hmm, I heard the Milky Way was the same size or smaller - I suppose it depends where one considers the 'edge' to be.
But 400 billion stars, of varying sizes, is commonly stated - guess it may be out of date.
@@chrissonofpear1384 The studies that say the milky way is 200,000 light years is from 2018. They put an estimate between 170,000-200,000 light years, I see a lot of people saying that 95,000-100,000 is already an outdated calculation
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Some of the dots that don't match any planet could be abandoned republic era medical stations, those could help as cachés or for materials.
Damn very good point I forget which one was near the one we saw in the clone wars
Orinda was for some time the capital of the Imperial Remant until it was moved to Bastion in Legends.
I believe there was a campaign there.
@@Ken_Koonz Yes, the Orinda campaign. When Pellaeon became the supreme commander of the newly united Empire he initiated a campaign to retake Orinda. When the New Republic responded he led the SSD Lusankya in a trap where he fought it with his own SSD the Reaper and a second SSD (the Dominion) he kept secret as an ace and forced the NR to retreat without harassing the Empires space again for a longer time.
@@TheKingofbrooklin And I believe is also the subject of one of HandofThrawn45's neat fan stories, online, too... (Attrition?)
splendid job with this! I too, would prefer for Luthen to be anything OTHER than a Jedi because it DOES make all of his actions and sacrifices even doubly difficult for him and yet, he does them ANYWAY - excellent job with this :)
Thanks yeah I think it's interesting
Yeah. On top of being prime locations to recover ancient artifacts to sell (thus reinforcing his cover) it could also be places where he is attempting to learn more about the Sith and the dark side in general to discover ways that they can be defeated or undermined.
If Luthen is a jedi, I feel like he only achieve the rank of padawan before his actions were deemed too aggressive to be a jedi, thus leaving him exiled from the order well before the Clone Wars. Perhaps the kyber crystal he gave Andor was his then
Idk if that was a saber type though but interesting
I for one am way too personally fucked up in the head to ever make it in the Jedi. I feel like the fact they more or less convince or kidnap kids must be necessary at as young an age as possible because if they pick up some 15 year old that hates his parents and got molested by his uncle and smokes space weed and dreams of playing in a space metal band - not a good jedi does that make most likely. The more of a blank slate someone is, and the fewer opinions they have about anything at all, the easier it is to teach them or indoctrinate them into jedi philosophies as well as being able to engage them in the physical activity necessary to make their bodies capable warriors eventually
My reasoning is also that the earlier you start a kid on martial arts the better they usually are - perfect example is Floyd Mayweather Junior, undefeated, one of the best of all time in Boxing, his style is super good at having a long career with little damage taken and he started learning all of this at the age of like 4 or 5? Something like that is when his dad got him into it. I got into karate at like 8 or 9 and the hip flexibility is still with me at 35 - it never leaves you in other words, even if i got morbidly obese id still be flexible as fuck tbh - so its similar to as to why the Chinese government forces parents to get their daughters into gymnastics at age 2 or 3 - because the human body is very malleable at that age and cushioned against injury - toddlers are way more flexible and can learn at a much faster and more permanent rate than anyone older.
Well he did say he was forced to use the tools of his enemy. Studying Sith stuff would fall under that
Yeah thats true
Might mean he could be Mando, not Jedi. Both saw Sith as enemies, with born Mandolorians having a distaste for all Force users
i like how they r a mix of plannets significant to both cannon and legends, showing the possibility of some of the old making it's way into the new
The hard work and insight involved in the creation of this video cannot be understated. Thanks for this video.
So much detail for such a small part of the show. I love it
The depth of Star Wars. Why it was the greatest thing in movie history......until the Dark Times (2015 to present)
Considering how powerful his ship is. He probably go wherever he need to.
Wonder how much space mileage that bad boy has.
Great job on the research for this, must have taken forever but very much appreciated
If Korriban/Morabad is canon, maybe the Red Sith species is also canon
Yeah it is canon and the species too I believe, in the background in some comic if I remember right
@@MetaNerdzLore isn’t korriban/Moraband in clone wars in season 6?
yes its the same planet but deu to time people started to name it morraband.
@@benraeside2237 yes, where Yoda met the illusion of Darth Bane
@@MetaNerdzLore The Sith species are given a brief mention in *Star Wars Workbook: 3rd Grade Reading and Writing*, and are considered canon.
Who knows, maybe someday we'll see them again?
I just thought of something interesting. In the book stories of jedi and sith one of the chapters is a non force sensitive boy who wanted to be a jedi. In the story he eventually admits he can't be a jedi but Yoda says more to a jedi than the force.
Basically saying the kid can be part of the jedi order without being a jedi. It would be interesting if the kid grew up to be Luthen. Someone who is not force sensitive but accepted as a caretaker of sorts. And friend of jedi. This can explain a lot while at the same time making him not force sensitive but aware of palpatines true evil.
That is really interesting
If Luthen was revealed to be a former Jedi it would be the biggest let down of the entire show. I agree that he seems to be a former separatist spy or something like that
Fax I don’t think it’s needed or warranted really
I'd be so mad if he was some sort of secret space wizard. The jedi are the least interesting thing to me in SW. I wanna see more assassin droids. Preferably HK models. With the hk47 voice actor.
Star War Theory disagrees with this lmfao
@@jamesw3413 oh absolutely man. I cannot fucking stand him or Josh. Trying gatekeep Star Wars by saying, “If you like Andor, you don’t like Star Wars.” Such an asinine thing to say
What doesn't Star Wars Theory disagree with about Disney SW?
What a video!!!!! Well done guys! Now we need a 3d SW galaxy map with the planets profiles
We have intel for Charros, this is where the vulture droids were build by the Xi Char factories in legends
Edit : same for Kwenn, there is a space station where rebel spies tried to hide in legends
Nice job! Someone had to put all that together and i am glad to see someone dissected it ;) I may not be in the majority, but i think it would be great if Luthen was somehow connected to the force. His speech showed that he had to cut himself off from the force, probably a survival tactic. Calm, kindness, kinship... condemned to use the tools of my enemies … I burned my life to make a sunrise i know I'll never see … This guy was a devout Jedi who lived and loved the order. When 66 happened he was crushed and devastated, he truly lost everything and began his path to which there is no escape. Even if he only has a small amount of Force ability, i think it can only add to his inner conflict ;)
I think he should be quasi-force sensitive like han solo or finn. he cant do anything with the force but he can sense it
I hope we eventually get a live action Hutta or Shaddah. I'm so ready to see them in clear quality.
Love your videos. Keep up the great work that you do. Here are other interesting Topics that your going to find interesting
Their are the Separatist Gendi Species, and Durge.
Can you also do other topics like the
the 4th precept
The Bedlum Spirits ,
The Celestials,
The ones,
The AntiForce/Other Space
The God of the Droids the maker
Force Priest/The Whills
Abeloth
The Demon Sith God
The Left hand God
THE Mngal-Mnggal
The Separatist super weapon the (Dark Reaper that revivals of the Death Star. )
The superweapon shocking device.( That can spread like marbles while destroying planets Stars, Galaxies, and Universes.)
The Sith Stalkers
Maulkiller
Starkiller
Galen Malek
This is just some of them am naming
It's cool and a little crazy someone matched up those points 😜 nice video!
Lol I'd like to think I'm crazy in these little lore hunts
@@MetaNerdzLore You are. And I love it. You have my sincere gratitude and utmost respect for putting this together. I cross referenced your map with the maps in my The Essential Atlas and The New Essential Chronology. I get giddy when I see things connected to the ol' EU (Legends ba hum bug). It makes me hope they'll scrap the ST and start over.
I like how at 18:10 there’s a picture of Mars from Warhammer 40k haha
Poor Mechis, coolest world no pics
8:05 I don't think night of a thousand tears has happened yet as that takes place after bo katan is given the darksaber by sabine which is more around 4 or 3 bby isn't it?
Love all the work you put in for this movie!!
Thanks yeah it did take longer than I thought
Amazing amount of work and research must have gone into this my friend!
Thanks so very much!
Wonderful vid, as per usual... 😍
I love how personalized Luthen's ship is, with its AI, all sorts of personal belongings, an invaluable map, and so many mods made to the ship itself. So cool.
Having grown up in Aargau (Switzerland), I find it amusing that my canton was taken for a banking world when the neighboring canton Zurich is the actual banking centre of Switzerland.
11:43-11:48 Maybe this "Unidentified" world is actually Hast. It was a secret shipyard world used by The Mon Calamari for refitting, and repairing many of their ships. Since it was secret (Unlike Mon Cala, itself), it was incredibly valuable to The Rebellion for when ship refits, or repairs were ever needed, including The Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet you mentioned. Maybe Luthen would also use those secret shipyards for stuff relating to his Fondor Haulcraft ship.
I cross checked your map with the maps in my The Essential Atlas and the New Essential Chronology. Outstanding work.
ANAZING WORK! Great observations, and excellent intel. Love the callbacks to EU stuff that the new canon is starting to reintroduce in reimagined ways so far.
Better clarify what you mean about the Mandalorians... the "Night of a Thousand Tears" is several years in the future from Luthen's time in Andor s1. We don't have an exact time frame but it's presumed to be after Rogue One takes place, as Mandalore is reclaimed from the Empire in the last season of Rebels, which ends shortly before RO.
Atollon for me is the most interesting find, regardless of the Bendu, the planet was not on the empires star charts and was only discovered by the rebels because of the artwork on Lothal and through data from both Rebel and Imperial networks. Perhaps this does kinda indicate that Luthen is a Jedi? Maybe it's another one of those deleted from the jedi archive jobs, perhaps because of the Bendu? Correct me if I'm wrong but literally no one in the galaxy knew about the location of the planet until Rebels?
Clearly some people knew of it as there was artwork. This really adds to Luthen's background as an intelligence agent for who knows what side. For all we know he may have been the one to erase it from imperial records. If we ever get to see his backstory it would be interesting to see non-clone forces demobilizing at the end of the Clone Wars. While the bad batch is doing a great job of covering clones, we still have not seen a lot about figures who would have left service in the early years of empire.
@@PMARC14 The Artwork was ancient, it took droids utilising both the imperial and Rebel networks to correlate the location of the planet
At Star Wars Celebration, Tony Gilroy said Season 2 will reveal an Imperial energy weapon, so I think that's the Arc Pulse Generator which would tie into Mandalore.
Don’t forget kasheyke was also the home to the map of the secret Hiper space lanes to the interior of the galaxy.
Well ofc Ferrix and Saw's planet are also on that map somewhere. I think Ferrix is somewhere in the north-east considering it was under corporate control.
The Star Wars galaxy just so immaculate
I have a feeling that many of the dots in the middle of nowhere are rendezvous locations.
To say that Luthen gets around would be a understatement. He's seemingly been Everywhere!
A small mistake with the Ssi-ruuk, they used entechment, which uses technology to rip the 'life energy' from sentients and use this energy to power their systems and droids not magic. Though Entechment and Enchantment are very similar words so I can see where you got confused. They were unknown to the known galaxy until the later days of the empire where they found that human energy lasted longer then other species and made a deal with Palpatine to give him this technology in exchange for human planets.
As to how Luthen got to and survived an encounter with the murderous, zealous, slave keeping space raptors is a mystery.
I would love to have Luthen be a force wielder hopefully a Dooku/CIS aligned one
8:02 Andor season one is in 5 BBY, well before the story arc on mandalore in season 4 of rebels, which predates the night of a thousand tears. so Andor is well before the night of a thousand tears, and is still under imperial rule (by way of appointed governors like the Saxons)
Do a video on different type of dathameir weapons and wild beasts.
I wouldn't mind him being force sensitive, as long as he isn't Jedi or Sith.
Ya, something like that. Maybe a guard at the Temple. Not strong enough to be a full fledge Jedi Knight but some sort of connection to the Jedi.
Nice! I’ve always wanted something like this. I think so anyway, I haven’t seen whole video but I want to have one of the first comments.
Lol hope u like it
Luthen is almost surely Sean Dann, Art Carney's character from the holiday special. Beyond looks and how they act, guy owns a junk shop selling up stuff to imperials, claims to be a friend of the rebellion even if Leia doesn't recognize him, and he's adept at doublespeak :o they clearly had the holiday special in their head too when the doctor in Andor used the same practical effect for his extra arm that they did for a certain cooking show Malla watched
I feel that Luthen was most definitely involved with the Confederacy in some sort of capacity. Though he does not have Mygeeto to completely fill up the "Triad of Evil" alongside Saleucami and Felucia, he does have Aargau, another world for the IGBC. Perhaps some his hatred of the Empire is hatred he had for the Republic during the Clone Wars. Maybe that's another reason as to why Cassian stuck out to him so much: someone else who had everything taken from him by the Republic
Good video but a correction if it was not brought up. The dreadmasters were not on cyborrea, they were awakened and spread there fear from Oricon
dude, this video was so well done - nice.
i hope they never really explain Luthen's past, but i expect him to be either an Ex-Republic Intelligence officer or even Separatist intel officer. It would be lame if he was force sensitive but wouldn't surprise me if disney went that way since SW = xwing, ties, lightsabers and force users.
Why not, whole Andorr is different
Phenomenal information, thank you!
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Luthen: activate protocol 69
Droid: nice
Dissapointed that Dantooine wasn't mentioned, as it was a safeworld for Rebels in Legends. There's literally 4 world marked around it, and yet that safeworld is not mentioned.
Not to mention it has a connection to the Sith too.
Maybe not yet in Andor.
Apparently Andor Season 2 is moving straight to Yavin 4. So looks like they're ignoring Dantooine lore from Rebels, which is weird, it was considered for Rogue One originally.
Didn't Palpatine wear an ancient Sith robe during his proclamation of the empire? Obviously the very tangible threat of fascism is enough of a motivator to rebel, but I still wonder if maybe Luthen saw and recognized that connection then and there. Anyway, probably took a whole lot of effort to deceipher and research this video and it really shows, great work
They do use space stations away from planets for traders and merchants to gather and meet and trade with each other. Being far from a planetary government can have its advantages. And as long as all it has to do is sit there, you can build something on a death star level so there are plenty of places to dock and store merchandise.
I’m desperate to see some of the planets we have visited in games make it to screen. Dathomir, Dantooine, Korriban and Naboo (again) being just some of lore-rich places I’d like to see in live action.
Apologies fir bringing this up again, but what uf you re made your old videos then everyone could still enjoy them for free, great job btw this video has clearly taken a long time
Yeah I plan on remaking all of them
@@MetaNerdzLore even the Geode video?
@@MetaNerdzLore THaNK YOU looking forward to it
Amazing!
Maybe Luthen is a Jedi of The Lost Twenty (from the EU). Not an enemy of the Jedi, but just went on his own because of the Clone Wars.
Wow! Fantastic video
It would be cool if he wasn’t a Jedi or sith, but a explorer of ancient cultures and had all these connections just because he was fascinated with them but as time went on he realised he could use them to fund his plans to take down the empire.
Him and his shop have a huge intel network the dots not anywhere. I'm amusing they are relays left over from CIS or his own built, when your in the shop you can see some of the kit from some of the worlds. "Bibity bobatiy this is now my property" some antics sound about right. The bit where you see him getting into his persona, give a strong feeling of deep cover spy/intel specialist. What bug me is his ship is used when he is doing everything, if it was a real spy wouldn't he have the ship for every persona, or is this just gota have a "hero ship" detracting from spy games.
I'm thinking this ship was made in large numbers making it a very common sight around the galaxy.
It would be like using a generic white Ford pickup truck irl.
Thanks! Impressive....
I like him going to Korriban to dig up stuff Indiana-Jones style. 🙂
The dot passed Mon Cala might be Hast. Idk tho
An important note: Disney only suspended the Expanded Universe, they didn't exactly get rid of it. I assume that the main timeline and planets set out in the Star Wars the Essential Atlas are still "unofficially canon", because Disney has no reason to reinvent the Star Wars past. The main problem with the EU was everything that was written after New Hope, much of it contradictory or poorly written.
Well, they're rewriting Star Wars past with High Republic, so no, they can overwrite whatever they want.
The past of the canon galaxy probably soon will look radically different than the EU past! They only use EU as placeholder to not upset the fandom until they write their version of the past.
They also recently made canon exclusive map with canon planets, it's still based on Essential Atlas, but it's different now with some planets removed.
I think Luthen's "assistant" Kleya is the force user and mastermind, and Luthen is the muscle and on the front lines since he is clearly trained in 'tradecraft.'
this is my new favorite theory
Nice work!
Do a video on the history of slavery in the star wars galaxy.
Do a video on the biology, history, and culture of neimoidians.
That's next
Does Zakuul (in the unknown regions) appear? What about the Chiss worlds in the Unknown regions?
Luthen is Rail Averos!!! Count Dookus old apprentice. This explains why he was a Jedi and separatist.
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check it out it, I don't think so. I hope to use shorts like this to tag on to things from vids I put out and shortly address theories like this that pop up
Greetings, MetaNerds Lore I just wanted to ask you if you can do a video of the mysterious ship that the 3 inquisitors came out of in the 1st episode of Obi-wan Kenobi and if possible can you make a video of the fanon imperial predator-class battlecruiser.
Rael Averross would have access to this information from several sources. From his time as a Jedi and through his former master and any CIS locations left to him by that master.
Check out my last short on this
nice video.
Personally, much like the Yuuzhan Vong, & I’m using this term in the same way in the first episode of _Tsukuyomi: Moon Phase_ (english dubbed by Funimation), the only way to be immune to MOST of the Force, primarily its flow & influences, is to be Retarded towards it. Sure, if Palpatine shot lightning at me or a Jedi conjectured a small tornado to lift me up & hold me in place, I’d be affected because they’re using the force to influence everything else, just not me personally. Thus, I wouldn’t be surprised that certain people are, in a way, immune to direct attacks such as force push/force pull, but won’t be immune to that telekinetically moved boulder that is being hurtled towards me…
That's just not true - all beings who don't have some special aspect that repels active manipulation of the living Force are subject to the Force. There is absolutely no precedent in the entire Legends or Canon for the idea that being less Force sensitive makes you less vulnerable to the Force.
That isn’t exactly the point, @@charlesjenkins2090. Sure, nobody is going to be immune to the force, as I have specifically described at the end of my comment, but that doesn’t mean they can be resistant to the force by simply denying the force, i.e. a hypocritical paradox, borrowed by _Re:CREATORS_ , where you can’t pick yourself up & throw yourself.
Here on earth, we have mitochondria. In that galaxy far far away, they have Midi-chlorians. Based on what I know & understand of _Star Wars_ lore, the force won’t work, or will barely work, here in our galaxy. Plus, we’d likely have an immunity due to not having Midi-chlorians, just Mitochondria…
@@nickvinsable3798 Star Wars is fiction dude I thought you were making yourself an analogy to Luthen or other hypothetical non Force sensitive people, but if you're talking about the Force in relation to you in actual reality...yeah who cares the Force isn't real
Well, which is it then, @@charlesjenkins2090? I’ve elaborated & pointed out its not impossible, then you’ve claimed its not true in the _Star Wars_ universe, then I’ve elaborated more, then you claim that its a work of fiction, which I’m completely aware about. Thus, are you losing it or something?
@@nickvinsable3798 Its not true in the SW universe, you then decide to start talking about something other than the SW universe, to which I say its fiction why are you talking about if Jedi (who don't exist) were to come to earth.
Sweet! Thanks!
Glad u liked it
@@MetaNerdzLore like all your videos man. They are great.
What old videos would be archived?
I like you're vids. Can yu do Halo and Mass Effect Ships in the future. Because explainings are so good and detailed. I hope to see more.
Definitely working on that
man, I gotta learn to use photoshop so I can do things like this. I can translate aurebesh fine, and get deep lore refrences, but whenever an unmarked map comes up im at a loss cus I don't know how to overlay it on known maps.
I just used coruscant as the center point
I personally hope Lutheran is one of Count Dooku’s “fallen” (awoken) apprentices.
Rael Avross.
check out my last short I talk about this, I don't see how he could be Rael
I'm willing to bet he is playing ally with both Wookies and the lizard folk
Yeah why not use them both
Ahh yes my favourite species......
*wOoLIeS*
Oh wow cool 😎
I think in legends there was a Jedi called Luthen. So he may be a distorted varsion, or related to that Jedi.
I wonder if the empty dots are worlds yet to be announced.
I definitely think there's a possibility that Luthen is indeed former CIS. I mean there are indications that he has been in this fight for long, + he constantly avoids ghe question about what faction he's aligned with. The Empire had a massive propaganda campaign against the seppies. So the chances are that people wouldn't work for him if he were to admit that he's a sep
Luthen appears to be a highly intelligent and resourceful individual. He may have heard rumors of the emperor being a Sith Lord, but I think that he’s intelligent enough to have sleuthed it out himself. In that era we have three facts about the Sith: the galaxy believed them to have been extinct for a millennia. The Rule of Two Sith stuck to the shadows to avoid detection and pulled a lot of Sith knowledge and artifacts into the shadows. And three, the Jedi considered anything related to the Sith to be taboo and forbidden by their own members, so most certainly did a good job of keeping it away from the rest of the galaxy.
So I think instead of him having any kind of Force sensitivity, he probably made the connection that Palpatine is a Force user. If he was ex-CIS intelligence, he likely also figured out that Palpatine and the shadowy hooded individual who was rumored to run the CIS was the same person. He noticed that Palpatine wasn’t a Jedi and probably found a way to hide his Force sensitivity from the Jedi. If that’s true, then who could he be? What other group of Force users are out there that the Jedi would likely be opposed to? He probably knew history well enough to have at least a passing knowledge of the Sith, so decided he needed to learn more about them if he’s going to create a plan to get rid of Palpatine. That led to him going to planets with connections to the Sith to learn more about them and hopefully learn more about Palpatine.
The Jedi artifacts, however were different. I’d say he was smart enough to figure out Palpatine duped the Jedi and led them to their own destruction, but also that some had survived that. If Palpatine is a Sith Lord, then the surviving Jedi would make for excellent allies against Palpatine and his empire. They’d need help, and the best way he likely felt he could help them is to collect as much Jedi stuff as he can so they can use it to stop the emperor and Vader, obviously knowing that Vader is also a Sith. I’d say he also banked on those surviving Jedi training more Jedi in secret, so would need Jedi things like holocrons and lightsabers.
Was watching the holiday special and Trader Saun Dann is awfully similar to Luthan...
I think a Jedi who joined the Confederacy and worked as a spy might be interesting
whats the source of the galaxy map? The old galactic atlas? Ive been looking for a newer canon source but havent found one.
Newer canon map is in Star Wars: Timelines. That map removes some Legends planets unfortunately.
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Not a great show but he was a great character.
Will you be redoing the breakdowns of the videos you’ve deleted?
Yeah definitely all the big ones, like ships species
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Yousa like Jar Jar Brinks Bank?
I forgot to feed my hamster Carl… he ate his brother Winkey. All that’s left of Winkey is his foot and Carl keeps running around with it in his mouth. 😢 not sure what to do
luthen is the coolest SW character since the original trilogy.
Yeah most interest of the new stuff
That monologue was off the charts. "I burned my life for a sunrise I'll never see".
Did I miss a reason why the older content is all locked behind a membership cost..?
Yeah they hurt the channel analytics, I think they are such bad quality myself that I was gonna make them unlisted, but memberships mean they don't hurt the analytics
@@MetaNerdzLore Well that's a shame, guess I'll look elsewhere for the info
19:30 hey its me when I was skinnier!
Are old videos going to get remade or no?
Yeah thats the plan
@@MetaNerdzLore alright