the biggest thing i was able to transfer between real life and sim was RACECRAFT. if you can understand your spacing without those little radar assists in sim, you can do that IRL. you'll understand how to leave just enough space and battle hard, but with sim you're certainly not as stressed as going side by side through a tight corner irl
incredibly eloquent explanation. Thank you so much for being a great pillar in this community/hobby, and F.U. for ruining my bank account barely 10 weeks into this hobby.
Ever since I started playing racing games more realistically, I've approached cars and tracks like I would a real car/track. You don't push over the edge immediately and dial it back, you work your way up to your threshold, then the threshold of your skill/equipment. I think if more people approached driving in this way, they're already armed with the mentality they need to start pushing a car to it's limits. Just enjoy the experience within your comfort level, and you'll no doubt get faster!
This is great. I've been sim racing for the larger part of my life. Nearly 30 years at this point. I was destined to be a motorsports enthusiast at a young age, but I took it upon myself to learn how to race, through games like Papyrus' NASCAR Racing, the Gran Turismo series, Forza, GTR 2, and countless other sim, sim-cade, and arcade titles. Not all physics are realistic in all racing games. But, if you learn how to race, that knowledge translates to all forms of racing. Arcade, sim, or real life. Since I've been a desktop racer for so long, I've always advocated how beneficial sim racing is to real life experience. Knowing what to do to control a vehicle is universal. I've seen sim racers win championships in real cars, and sim drifters hop in 900HP monsters for their first time ever and treat it like a walk in the park. Thank you for your efforts to shed light on how amazing sim racing is, and how similar it is to the real thing. You can't play FIFA, Madden, NBA2K, or most other sports titles and learn what it takes to do it in real life. But since the first time someone programmed a virtual car to "realistically" go around a virtual track, we've all been able to learn the ins and outs of racing from the comfort of our homes. The only thing left is to put that knowledge to practice. Trust the time you've spent churning out laps and be the best racer you can be!
View makes a lot of difference. Cockpit view will lower the car noise but increase the tire noise. You can really tell when you are losing grip or locking brakes. Helped me with being consistent and gained better times. I actually drive my road car better as well. It is a fantastic tool. Love sim racing.
Completely agree with everything you said here except one thing. I’m 100% sure it’s easier to save a car in real life because there is so much more sensory information to be proactive with. Maybe with more laps under your belt in the F4 car, you’d get to the same feeling?
My feeling is that I send the car hard in the sim since the lap one, and I abuse it 500% more than in real life. So i feel it's easier to save simply because we're not doing stupid sends all the time. I need more laps for sure to reflect more on that!
i love you suellio, thank you for everything. i’ll be making the plunge into iracing in the next couple weeks and you’ve helped me feel prepared and confident 👊
Thanks for the video, actually I am a FSAE driver. I also do a bit of karting but i struggled a lot in sim-racing . your videos really helped me on understanding how to use the sim. Now I am preparing for a F4 test drive in Zhuhai international circuit, hope the sim can help me with it
I agree completely with everything this man says. I race legend cars on short ovals, and I also spend many hours on the sim at home. The forces applied to a driver when racing ESPECIALLY on a high-banked short track are immense. Funny, enough, the brake pedal feels similar to that of a Logitech G29, very stiff. and the lines and techniques used are similar in the sim if you use the same setup, because oval racing is highly dependent on setup for how you drive the car. my last race, I struggled through practice because I got a new seat and I would not be able to turn the wheel fully because the seat got in the way. That in one thing he missed, the unpredictability of real life. Well, thanks for reading I guess, idk why you decided to read all of this but have a good day
Subscribe! How's your experience in real life so far? How does it compare to sim racing? I forgot one of the biggest differences... Money. It's insane how much you can spend in a single weekend in real life. A weekend in real life could cost what it takes to build a high-end sim racing rig that you can race for years. It's definitely worth it trying at some point in your life, though, the experience is just uncomparable!
The reason I haven't dabbled in real-life racing is my budget. Sim racing always made more sense, and now sim equipment is so good that what you learn through your eyes and arms is almost a direct translation. I have done some karting, and my time in racing games in general has definitely made me a top competitor multiple times. Even had a place offer me a free session because I was so close to beating the track record! (didn't beat it tho lol)
It's just a video game unless you are directly using it as a tool in application to real life racing. A very small percentage of us are ever going to drive a real life GT3, Formula car or WRC rally car so it's not really "simulating" any experience for the average gamer. What you can pick up though, are some skillsets that are transferable over to real life like race craft and the mechanical techniques like trail braking and countsteering, etc. The real problem is that there aren't enough racing sims that simulate more "grass roots" and amateur level racing that people are more likely to encounter. I would like to see more karting, autocross and production car level racing in simulators.
Love your videos, discussion and content. But also just noticed Carl Sagan next to Ayrton in the background - two of my heroes, so my respect for you grows further :)
Love this. Totally agree from what I can tell from simracing and real driving (not in races though), and it makes sense that sims need more tirenoise, because of the lack of G. I remember seeing Ben Collins visiting Jimmy Broadbent to help him with his step to our virtual world, because he couldn't feel the G forces and kept crashing. Very curious to see what kind of lessons you are giving, checking it out now.
What I've always loved about driving/racing games is that what you learn becomes a tool for everyday driving. Not that anybody should be burning up expressways, but knowing how to brake properly (or engine brake when using a manual, as well as heel-toe), or control the car in case of a skid, it all works in real life
Can you do a video of you FBB settings for Iracing specifically with the logitech G pro wheel and pedals, what elastimers your use and all of your in game and G hub settings!!!
Hey thanks for this content...as a recent sim racer its pretty awesome to hear what the real thing is. For any one that has gt7 on a ps5 please,.please do yourself a favor and get the psvr2!!! It is absolutely incredible and well worth the money. You dont need expensive tripple screens to have the best most immersive experience
Although the SIM Racing games may give you an idea what some of the real tracks look like (depending on how real they are designed in the game), driving a real Race Car on a real track is a whole different ballgame. That is if you have never driven any kind of real Race Car. They do have driving schools that people can go to and get a little training and take a few laps around certain tracks. After that, So it is what your goals and desires are and if you want to continue to be a Real Race Car Driver. There are allot of very good competitive drivers that you would be going up against and how good you would be in close car to car racing. It takes allot of hours on the tracks and the feel of the car to be competitive. Then there are the expenses to do the racing. Thanks for the video and take care.
All I do recently is practice my braking technique every race. Trying to rotate or trail brake correctly to the apex. This is so hard to master. I’m barely scratched the surface.
The biggest difference SIM vs REAL: No talking and reading chat while driving = REAL, talking 24/7 and reading chat while driving = SIM I don’t talk and don’t read chat when I’m in the Sim so I’m doing good 😅
Some people comment that the feeling of speed in GT7 with PSVR2 is very close or identical to reality, have you already tested this? Could you talk about? Thanks for the great video! Like!
I tested it. It's not. Even with VR you don't get the right speed sensation. It comes with a lot more, like wind, G-forces, absolute full 180 deg FOV, etc.
The proof that sim racing can prepare you for real racing is that Tim Heinemann just were on the podium in a DTM race And the DTM is one of the most prestigious race series of Europe He started as a sim Racer
junior formula at homestead miami? i miss when iracing used to run it with star mazda's or FR2.0 never seen it on F3 calendar. If motion rig isnt gonna give realism how about devicies like buttkicker and so on?
If you don't mind me answering, I think things like buttkickers do give more of a tactile experience in sim racing, which helps with immersion. You could say the added immersion also helps with your mentality when approaching real racing, because you focus more on exactly what you're doing, and how what you're doing affects what the car does. That said, it's still only a tool to help you get a sense of what a rumble strip feels like, or the vibrations of the engine, etc. It wouldn't provide any more of a sense of realism than a motion rig would. I think there's some takeaway from motion rigs, VR and vibration units, and some people may find them helpful, but they can't recreate a true sensation of the car.
the biggest thing i was able to transfer between real life and sim was RACECRAFT. if you can understand your spacing without those little radar assists in sim, you can do that IRL. you'll understand how to leave just enough space and battle hard, but with sim you're certainly not as stressed as going side by side through a tight corner irl
incredibly eloquent explanation. Thank you so much for being a great pillar in this community/hobby, and F.U. for ruining my bank account barely 10 weeks into this hobby.
hahahaha sorry :P
Mental state is the first thing I noticed when I brought my CLS55 AMG to Harris Hill Raceway. So fun, but you need to be strong mentally.
Ever since I started playing racing games more realistically, I've approached cars and tracks like I would a real car/track. You don't push over the edge immediately and dial it back, you work your way up to your threshold, then the threshold of your skill/equipment.
I think if more people approached driving in this way, they're already armed with the mentality they need to start pushing a car to it's limits.
Just enjoy the experience within your comfort level, and you'll no doubt get faster!
This is great. I've been sim racing for the larger part of my life. Nearly 30 years at this point. I was destined to be a motorsports enthusiast at a young age, but I took it upon myself to learn how to race, through games like Papyrus' NASCAR Racing, the Gran Turismo series, Forza, GTR 2, and countless other sim, sim-cade, and arcade titles.
Not all physics are realistic in all racing games. But, if you learn how to race, that knowledge translates to all forms of racing. Arcade, sim, or real life.
Since I've been a desktop racer for so long, I've always advocated how beneficial sim racing is to real life experience. Knowing what to do to control a vehicle is universal. I've seen sim racers win championships in real cars, and sim drifters hop in 900HP monsters for their first time ever and treat it like a walk in the park.
Thank you for your efforts to shed light on how amazing sim racing is, and how similar it is to the real thing. You can't play FIFA, Madden, NBA2K, or most other sports titles and learn what it takes to do it in real life. But since the first time someone programmed a virtual car to "realistically" go around a virtual track, we've all been able to learn the ins and outs of racing from the comfort of our homes.
The only thing left is to put that knowledge to practice. Trust the time you've spent churning out laps and be the best racer you can be!
Literally the best video in the world on this topic. Well done!
View makes a lot of difference. Cockpit view will lower the car noise but increase the tire noise. You can really tell when you are losing grip or locking brakes. Helped me with being consistent and gained better times. I actually drive my road car better as well. It is a fantastic tool. Love sim racing.
Completely agree with everything you said here except one thing. I’m 100% sure it’s easier to save a car in real life because there is so much more sensory information to be proactive with.
Maybe with more laps under your belt in the F4 car, you’d get to the same feeling?
My feeling is that I send the car hard in the sim since the lap one, and I abuse it 500% more than in real life.
So i feel it's easier to save simply because we're not doing stupid sends all the time. I need more laps for sure to reflect more on that!
Thank you, every video you post carries really great value and high quality hints.
i love you suellio, thank you for everything. i’ll be making the plunge into iracing in the next couple weeks and you’ve helped me feel prepared and confident 👊
Good luck! It’s a really fun game
Thanks for the video, actually I am a FSAE driver. I also do a bit of karting but i struggled a lot in sim-racing . your videos really helped me on understanding how to use the sim. Now I am preparing for a F4 test drive in Zhuhai international circuit, hope the sim can help me with it
I agree completely with everything this man says. I race legend cars on short ovals, and I also spend many hours on the sim at home. The forces applied to a driver when racing ESPECIALLY on a high-banked short track are immense. Funny, enough, the brake pedal feels similar to that of a Logitech G29, very stiff. and the lines and techniques used are similar in the sim if you use the same setup, because oval racing is highly dependent on setup for how you drive the car. my last race, I struggled through practice because I got a new seat and I would not be able to turn the wheel fully because the seat got in the way. That in one thing he missed, the unpredictability of real life. Well, thanks for reading I guess, idk why you decided to read all of this but have a good day
Subscribe!
How's your experience in real life so far? How does it compare to sim racing?
I forgot one of the biggest differences... Money.
It's insane how much you can spend in a single weekend in real life. A weekend in real life could cost what it takes to build a high-end sim racing rig that you can race for years. It's definitely worth it trying at some point in your life, though, the experience is just uncomparable!
The reason I haven't dabbled in real-life racing is my budget. Sim racing always made more sense, and now sim equipment is so good that what you learn through your eyes and arms is almost a direct translation.
I have done some karting, and my time in racing games in general has definitely made me a top competitor multiple times. Even had a place offer me a free session because I was so close to beating the track record! (didn't beat it tho lol)
It's just a video game unless you are directly using it as a tool in application to real life racing.
A very small percentage of us are ever going to drive a real life GT3, Formula car or WRC rally car so it's not really "simulating" any experience for the average gamer. What you can pick up though, are some skillsets that are transferable over to real life like race craft and the mechanical techniques like trail braking and countsteering, etc.
The real problem is that there aren't enough racing sims that simulate more "grass roots" and amateur level racing that people are more likely to encounter. I would like to see more karting, autocross and production car level racing in simulators.
Love your videos, discussion and content.
But also just noticed Carl Sagan next to Ayrton in the background - two of my heroes, so my respect for you grows further :)
Just got a karting ddr2, I played Iracing for 3 years and it definitly help a lot. It's amazing how à good sim is near to reality
I love your videos, they always hit! Good information and thank you for sharing your experiences.
Love this. Totally agree from what I can tell from simracing and real driving (not in races though), and it makes sense that sims need more tirenoise, because of the lack of G. I remember seeing Ben Collins visiting Jimmy Broadbent to help him with his step to our virtual world, because he couldn't feel the G forces and kept crashing.
Very curious to see what kind of lessons you are giving, checking it out now.
What I've always loved about driving/racing games is that what you learn becomes a tool for everyday driving. Not that anybody should be burning up expressways, but knowing how to brake properly (or engine brake when using a manual, as well as heel-toe), or control the car in case of a skid, it all works in real life
The Stig never needs help...
Amazing video. This is exactly what I was looking for. Super informative, no bullshit. You are amazing, thank you
Another great video Suellio!
great content, wish i had discovered this channel sooner, abraços de brasil 😊
Can you do a video of you FBB settings for Iracing specifically with the logitech G pro wheel and pedals, what elastimers your use and all of your in game and G hub settings!!!
Hey thanks for this content...as a recent sim racer its pretty awesome to hear what the real thing is. For any one that has gt7 on a ps5 please,.please do yourself a favor and get the psvr2!!! It is absolutely incredible and well worth the money. You dont need expensive tripple screens to have the best most immersive experience
I have the PSVR2!
Although the SIM Racing games may give you an idea what some of the real tracks look like (depending on how real they are designed in the game), driving a real Race Car on a real track is a whole different ballgame. That is if you have never driven any kind of real Race Car.
They do have driving schools that people can go to and get a little training and take a few laps around certain tracks. After that, So it is what your goals and desires are and if you want to continue to be a Real Race Car Driver.
There are allot of very good competitive drivers that you would be going up against and how good you would be in close car to car racing. It takes allot of hours on the tracks and the feel of the car to be competitive. Then there are the expenses to do the racing.
Thanks for the video and take care.
Love that F4 in iRacing. I wish I was faster in it though. 100% would pay to do a track day in one.
Great comparison!
Awesome video great information🇨🇦👍
8:55
Michelins vs Bridgestones in F1 in a nutshell.
All I do recently is practice my braking technique every race. Trying to rotate or trail brake correctly to the apex. This is so hard to master. I’m barely scratched the surface.
That's a thing that I will try for sure but in Romania we don't have as much as motorsports as in another country
Do you use IRFFB with Iracing ?
The biggest difference SIM vs REAL: No talking and reading chat while driving = REAL,
talking 24/7 and reading chat while driving = SIM
I don’t talk and don’t read chat when I’m in the Sim so I’m doing good 😅
Some people comment that the feeling of speed in GT7 with PSVR2 is very close or identical to reality, have you already tested this? Could you talk about?
Thanks for the great video! Like!
I tested it. It's not. Even with VR you don't get the right speed sensation. It comes with a lot more, like wind, G-forces, absolute full 180 deg FOV, etc.
@@SuellioAlmeida But is racing in VR the closest thing to real life ?
@@SuellioAlmeida Oh Tnx!
The proof that sim racing can prepare you for real racing is that Tim Heinemann just were on the podium in a DTM race
And the DTM is one of the most prestigious race series of Europe
He started as a sim Racer
AMAZING!
Do you have a plan when you're sim practicing? I've heard that you need to practice (as opposed to racing) with a purpose.
junior formula at homestead miami? i miss when iracing used to run it with star mazda's or FR2.0 never seen it on F3 calendar. If motion rig isnt gonna give realism how about devicies like buttkicker and so on?
If you don't mind me answering, I think things like buttkickers do give more of a tactile experience in sim racing, which helps with immersion. You could say the added immersion also helps with your mentality when approaching real racing, because you focus more on exactly what you're doing, and how what you're doing affects what the car does.
That said, it's still only a tool to help you get a sense of what a rumble strip feels like, or the vibrations of the engine, etc. It wouldn't provide any more of a sense of realism than a motion rig would. I think there's some takeaway from motion rigs, VR and vibration units, and some people may find them helpful, but they can't recreate a true sensation of the car.
Short answer, yes.
What’s your take on VR for more of a speed sensation?
I only do VR in iRacing and it's amazing. No complaints from me. You're 'in the car' and battling...
The SoS in VR is closer than using a monitor, but it's still not quite the same as real life.
@@slowanddeliberate6893 I assume you mean 'sense of speed' by SoS?
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great Video but about FFB i am a racing driver, and nothing compares to RF2 ,is the real deal
How did you got to drive an F4 car? Or any other type of racing car? Teams just ask you or something?
I paid for the ApexV2R rides and the F4 racing weekend was an invitation!
@@SuellioAlmeida Oh, I guess you did very well in ApexV2R ride.
1:33 And people are whining about being too hot with VR headset 😄
Bruh last year my 3 gopros died in the car before the race even started. It was 50+c inside the car (Subaru BRZ)
Is that bolsonaro on your the left 😮
Carl Sagan!
hahahahahaha
Hi
BRABO
so how do I get a real drive then?😆
Você é brasileiro?
sim!
@@SuellioAlmeida massa. torcida em dobro. 😁