Literature is a Weapon | Ash Sarkar meets Edouard Louis
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- Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2024
- This interview has French subtitles available!
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At the LRB Bookshop Ash met French literary sensation Edouard Louis to discuss his latest book "Who Killed My Father", the Gilets Jaunes, love, suffering and more.
Edited and translated by Clémentine March
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I've met Édouard personally at a bookshop in Lyon a few years ago and his writing has been with me ever since. He's given me a way to understand my own family in a way I deeply needed at that point in time. Thanks Ashe, it's such a pleasure to have two of my favourite people talk with each other in this way.
Same here! 👍
The far Right and also the Left are trapped in Retro idealistic Ideas that having their Roots 60 or maybe 90 Years in the past, and in my opinion the Left need a upgrade to begin a Discussion that would reach 10-30Years into the Future! The Left can't no longer ignore the idea of a Unconditional Basic Income for example. The UBI is in my opinion the only way to Deal with the alienation from everything that this capitalistic system inherently brought through the Working Class and trough the Precariat. The UBI could transform Capitalism into a second Renaissance driven by Technological evolution.
my man edouard lookin like jake paul
you hate to see it
literally i was like "wow novara really moving mad now"
I was so confused when I saw the thumbnail lmao
Jake Paul's sensitive French cousin
tfue
What a great young man, and a great job questioning by Miss Sarkar.
So touched, that Ash mentioned Gramsci (and Fanon).
AWESOME interview. More of this Ash! In love with Edouard Louis.
Well done Ash! That was a superb interview!
Great talk here, and Louis appears to very much take up the resistant thread of French family writing from the 1990s ... Much of the French intellectual establishment has tended to blame the temporal crisis on the extension of the right to speak of suffering during the same period to those of a darker complexion, rather than the culture crisis created by such gatekeeping gestures themselves. Good to see this being challenged as ever.
A moribund analysis.
Amazing interview! Thanks so much for sharing
Edouard Louis the distinction between exclusion and persecution is quite penetrating. You talk about “bodies”.
thank you for this video ✊🏼 end of eddy was huge. looking forward to the next one.
I remember I hated my art teacher at school - she was very anti-scientific and from a privileged background. She used to latch onto to me because I was her star arts pupil. I was entered into competitions without my consent and offered an apprenticeship at the BBC without me even inquiring about it (as it wasn't even on my radar). Myself - I went to one of the worst schools in the country. Art was an escape for me - I was very autistic I guess in the way approached it. For me I guess art was about expressing things I felt unable to talk about. I really hated when I was younger the way my art teacher tried to get into my head. I think for me probably my sentiment was that you can't relax until you feel safe. It's like you are on this tight rope walk and you just have to concentrate on not falling off.
I'm not an expert or anything. But I have done a lot of thinking about gender. I've come to the conclusion that a large part of "toxic masculinity" revolves around a denial of anxiety (which I guess relates to existential themes - which I am only just exploring... I mean yeh, Sartre was very favourable towards homosexuals wasn't he). As in men can't feel anxiety (the "freeze" response) as this is classed as something only women possess. For men the focus seems on "fight or flight" - as in you either fight or you are a coward.
I think "anxiety" ("freezing") is something that is overlooked when compared with "fear" ("fight or flight"). btw - I am not even sure if such distinctions really exist in the first place. I am not sure whether or not how much "neuroscience" has been able to detach itself from ideology? Biologically speaking anxiety and fear are part of the same system in the brain (the "hypothalamic pituatary adrenal axis") - employing the "extended amygdala/bed nucleua of the stria terminalis" and "amygdala" in the "ventral" part fo the brain. I think maybe "existentialists" viewed anything we would now consider to be part of the "ventral stream" in the brain as being "essentialist" or "reactionary". While the existentialist tended to view "dorsal stream" activity more in a positive light - as this involved engagement with our external environment - i.e. that which exists. And also fear-based amygdala activity seems to be very phasic, short term, aggressive and very pattern oriented - so perhaps indicative of "rational" or "bad faith" responses. Though I am just speculating as I don't really know? Whereas "anxeity" seems something existentialists point to as a "mood" that can free us from the b*llocks of the everyday meaningless banter about who supports who on X-Factor - as the "extended amygdala" seems to have opposite characteristics to the "amygdala"... though like I said, I am not knowledgeable enough (or in the know enough - in the inner sanctum) to know what is real science and what is ideology when it comes to neuroscience. For example, it is claimed that - and a small number of observations would seem to suggest (though does not prove this) - the gender identity of transgender people is down to having an extended amygdala similar to that of the opposite sex to them assigned at birth (as supposedly, the central sub division of the bed nucleus of the stria termanalis in the extended amygdala is sexually dimorphic and the same size as that of the sex transgender people identify with - which I think as somethin gto do with the number of inhibitory neurons that reduce and anxiety response... i.e. males apparently have more inhibitory nuerons... but what of soldiers with PTSD and Anxiety coming back from war zones? What if the shoe was on the other foot in terms of physical power in the relationship between men and women?) - is the extended amygdala responsible for someone being transgender or is it some assumed attribute due to ideology about differences in anxiety between men and women?
I think when you try to break out of the working class into the middle class. You are forced into becoming an existentialist (which I think gets confused with "autism" because of the similar amount of focus required on doing work to get yourself out of you social trap versus having a social life but being trapped in poverty.... and so probably requiring the devotion to similar areas of brian activity - i.e. of focusing on dorsal versus ventral activity) - otherwise you would never escape. Would would never free yourself from the fear of humiliation otherwise from your peers. But once you break out of the middle classes, you may have the false assumption that the middle classes will be existentialist like you (otherwise they would end up being the same as your working class peers in poverty surely?). Only when you reach the middle classes from a working class background do you realise that they have had to make no such sacrifice - existential attitudes are something they do not need to entertain due to their privilege.
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@@michaelwoods3462 Can you feel my elbow smacking into your face?
@@regvarney5582 I did use to be a quadruple agent for the KGB. I have long sicne retired and tried to move on with my life. However, my index finger was replaced with a small gun - to remove it would cause servere neurological damage. I remember one day while I was in a pet shop seeing a gorgeous cockatoo. But without thinking, I had pointed at it while speaking with the pet shop owner: moments later there was a loud crack and bird feathers were everywhere - I had shot at it with my finger! My whole world fell down around me that day.
@@regvarney5582 I can't think of anything else. But thanks anyway. Well. There was a time I was looking for a book on fly fishing by J R Hartley, but that story is too long to recount I am afraid. Cheers.
Great interview Ash.
Great video!
I like ash.
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I'm baked and came here to say that I thought the thumbnail was Jake Paul.
Great Stuff. Thanx.
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What Ed says here of not fitting in etc. That’s a normal feeling when someone migrates class. His children and his children’s children won’t feel it, as they’ll be fully ensconced in that world. And it works both ways as well when people fall down the social ladder. There is such a thing as working class snobbery and prejudice against middle class people.
That's why there should't be different classes at all. And you present your observation óf working classprejudice against middle class People (which is true) as if they would be therefore even. That is not true. It is first and foremost an Instrument of power.
John Sinclair how in the world could there ever be a classless society? I’m not being funny, but you’re in dream world if you think such a thing is possible. I wasn’t saying anything about it being even - that’s just your own presupposition. I was merely saying that that feeling of not being accepted on the basis of class goes both ways. If I was middle class/upper middle class or whatever, and I found myself knocked down a wrung or two, I’d probably feel like an alien. Now, it just so happens that I’ve got a similar experience to Ed, and found myself surrounded by posh Oxford grads for a while - not too long though because there was only so much I could take - and I can relate to what he’s saying. I did feel like a curiosity with my thick northern twang. But I don’t see the fact that class migration can be hard as giving justification for tearing down the structures that are in place. Besides, I don’t think it would be possible. Changing attitudes maybe, but classless utopia not so much.
@@thomaschad18 I share your experience of not feeling at home in upper class/middle class so I am not against your observation. It is very true.
I disagree with you on the possibility of Change. Your thinking that it can never be different just sounds like defeatism to me. The structures that are in place have to be changed and they can be changed, because they have been changed. Nothing is set in stone. And anybody that tells you something different is a fucking lethargic devil.
John Sinclair again, how? Classes will always naturally emerge regardless of what changes take place. I suspect that you would rather feel like the one on top, when it comes down to it, and you resent having to have to struggle your way up - which is something to be proud of btw. I agree, it can be painful for some (depending on character), and I certainly think that a general change in people’s attitudes would be a good thing. But flattening society out? Really? I don’t even think such a thing would be desirable, let alone possible. Yet again, how?
@@thomaschad18 Well I certaintly don't want to be the one on top. That your first instinct was to suspect ressentiment is quite telling. Not everyone is a psychopath you know?. No shade.
As to your Question how I want to flat out Society... Well I don't know. I don't have a masterplan on how to do it. I am not a Genius. To lay out everything I know About unions and co-ops, social Progress and the possibilities of Technology wouldn't help ut here, because you would probably just brush it aside as utopian or idealistic and Maybe you wouldn't even be wrong about this. But I still prefer this attitude of "conscientious objection" to the state of affairs over your "Just accept it. That's how the world is. It can not be different. Man up and pull yourself up by your bootstraps"-mentality. Because while I may live an Illusion, you're certainly living a lie.
I thought it was Logan Paul.
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