Someone should be JAILED for this!!!
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- Shopping online for your favorite brands is like unwrapping a present - full of excitement and anticipation. But lurking in the shadows are scammers ready to prey on that excitement.
This week, I stumbled upon a rabbit hole of online scams impersonating popular brands we all love. Join me on this journey as I uncover the truth behind these deceitful schemes.
As I delve into this murky world of online deception, I'll take you along on my investigative journey. We'll navigate through this tangled web of deceit, blending narration with visuals of my meticulous process.
Let's shine a light on these scams and empower ourselves against future online pitfalls. Are you ready to dive in? Let's get started.
Correction: In the video, it was mistakenly referred to as Strathberry, but the correct brand name is Songmont.
TITLE: Someone should be JAILED for this!!!
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CHAPTERS/TIMESTAMPS
00:00 What's the scary thing about shopping online?
00:21 What did I stumble upon this week?
00:40 What did I build to explore this sketchy news?
00:55 What brand has a market in Turkey and was offering special discounts?
01:06 Two reasons why the Polene Turkey website seemed suspicious?
01:22 Did I know something was off upon looking at the site?
01:40 The mind map I used to conduct an investigation
01:54 Where to start the investigation?
02:35 What is the biggest red flag of the Polene Turkey website?
02:54 What is off with the contact details on the Polene Turkey website?
03:05 How does the Polene Turkey website work?
03:42 Is the Polene Turkey website stealing credit card data?
04:37 Did I receive a response to my email to Polene Turkey customer service?
05:08 What other brand in Turkey is fake and mirroring the original website?
05:59 What do I want to do with those scammers?
06:11 Who owns these domains?
06:51 What did I find in their address on the website?
07:08 What is my option 1 to take down these scammers?
07:23 What I need to do to identify the people behind these websites?
07:43 Did I find a hacker to assist me with this investigation?
08:22 What did I discover in Shopify Discussion?
08:48 Did Shopify help me with this investigation?
09:14 Is it possible to get the names of those scammers?
10:07 Did I find the people behind the Polene and Songmont fake websites?
10:23 Why is this happening in Turkey?
10:45 What did I see in Turkey last year?
11:38 Did the same case happen to the brand All Birds two years ago?
12:17 What should you remember when you're doing online shopping?
12:33 Outro
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This used to happen for Coach bags previously. Coach went after these fake sites in a big way!! International laws regarding fraud need to be harsher. They are outdated!
Very detailed investigation! Great work! Thank you for protecting us against these scams.
thank you
If it is an expensive bag, selling for a fraction of the cost, do not fall for the scam. Save for the real thing. Do not lose your money. Thank you Tanner Leatherstein for your efforts and exposing these scams.
absolutely, be really careful. especially with expensive brands. crooks set up traps around them
If you have to save for a bag...
Kindly just buy a fake one for your own good😂
True, though I think living with hyperinflation makes it harder for people to recognize a fair price on foreign goods. Personally, I feel I’ve lost my sense what I can buy with TL, especially if it’s imported.
I love that the first thing that came to mind was to go rogue and try to find a hacker.
a little Turkish in me :) always starts to take a look at "what other ways are possible here (when the legal way comes to a dead end)" Of course not to pursue them always :)
Excellent journalism. Exposing more sophisticated scams and highlighting the lack of customer care at Shopify.
thank you. it feels like journalism slowly. not sure where this is heading but I am enjoying it a lot :)
It isn't that Shopify doesn't care about them. They care A LOT. Because they make a ton of money from them. They have every incentive to make sure they stay open.
everything I have seen this week confirmed what you say
Your channel is getting better and better!!! ❤
Glad you think so!
I love that you are spreading awareness around this topic! Your investigation was very comprehensive, great job! Thank you! :)
thank you. tried my best but not fully satisfied with the result tho. sites are still up. can't believe that
Those criminals know all the loopholes and what they can get away with.
it seems like it. and loopholes are hugeeee, as I learned with this
Thank you for your integrity, investigation and video exposing these criminals!
thank you for watching!
Thank you for doing this work to try and protect consumers.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for investigating and reporting this scam..you are incredible.
glad you like it! thank you for your support
My girlfriend gets many ads on Instagram of many famous brands with 100% fake websites. She almost fell for it because of the 70% site wide sale. This is very common and nothing new
there is no consequence so I think it will get wider if authorities don't improve the process to deal with these...
wow I thought this is click bait--"they should be JAILED for this... because their product is so good!" lol. Turns out they're really scams! Hopefully someone with more resources can take this on... Great investigation and love how you show it to us step-by-step!
well polene is good but not that good :) thanks for watching :)
So many scams and scammers. It’s very distressing. I appreciate being made aware of them.
You’re one of the very few remaining people that are honest and have values. Thank you for your awesome videos!!! Always thoroughly entertained/leathertained!
I appreciate that!
Tanner, great work! thank you for your hard work, time, and effort to bringing these scams to light
Wow amazing work and information!! Thank you for sharing !! Be aware of the scammers people
Awesome 👏Thank you for your excellent investigation 😎
glad you like it!
That hacker channel is AMAZING. Thank you for your good work as always! ❤
You did a great service here and your effort showed that we’re not in this alone. We can all be in this together by spreading the word that we learned on your channel and being more aware as consumers because ultimately the more people who figure out the scams and the less people who buy /that’s what’s going to take these scammers out of business
This is amazing and I'm so impressed how you figured this out!! No doubt this was extremely time consuming and your investigation skills are top shelf. Thank you so much for this excellent video.... :)
Nice work, Detective Leatherstein!! Thanks for all your hard work -- you never disappoint!
I really appreciate your honest integrity. Thank you. I learn so much. ❤
Thank you for your hard work against scammers. We appreciate your efforts. Keep up the good work.
I have seen these scam ads all over instagram lately and wondered why nobody is doing anything about this. Thanks for taking action and informing people!
Scams is becoming the biggest rise in the increasing increase of consumer culture. If it’s to good to be true remember it probably is. Be safe and always double authenticate!! 💯
100%
Love that you’re trying to get the criminals, at your own expense. Keep up the very good work. Huge fan 🇨🇦
Great work! Thanks for doing it
Great work! You're doing good in the world, bringing us this information and working to clean things up. Thank you for ALL you do!!
Amazing video!!! Thanks for sharing!!! ❤
Wow - THANK YOU for all of your effort in exposing these crooks. Instagram is FILLED with scammers that remain active on the platform, while legit, reputable re-sellers get shut down - just crazy. Yes, you're right - "If it sounds too good to be true..." I like the saying: "Pay the price or buy it twice."
Thanks for taking action to take down the illegal website. I saw many fake brand names websites on the Facebook and they keep posting products with huge discounts. I reported them to Facebook but nothing happened.
Same here, I reported to Instagram few days ago but both accounts are still live
Thank you for taking action.
Loving the investigative videos, keep up the good work.
You should be very proud of the time and effort, you have put into researching this! Trying to help consumers in purchasing legitimate products, is very much appreciated! Thank you for everything you are doing! 💕
Thank you for making the video. These big platforms just don’t care. As consumer that was scammed, we should have the right to report and get them shutdown too. I had experience of being contacted by people on Facebook trying to buy something from me and they were using a fake Facebook account and then a PayPal account for the transaction. After wasting an hour with them, I was sure they were scammers so I reported both to Facebook and PayPal. NOTHING happened. So, online scams basically face no consequences and these platforms they are using just can’t be bothered dealing with it
Exactly. If there are no consequences of a crime we can only expect to see more of it
Thank you for sharing. So helpful.
So glad!
Thank you -you’re a good person ! Love your channel
I appreciate you sharing basic things we can do as consumers to protect ourselves. They did a really good job with that website.
Yes, this seems like a well established organized crime who is doing it over and over again. So they are fairly well presented
Great video! Thank you!
thanks for watching
Thanks so much for all the investigation. You have saved many from losing hard-earned money.
Good work, Tanner!😊🌻
Thank you for your work to protect consumers!
happy to do it! thanks for your support
The best ❤🙌🏻thank you for the information
Thanks so much for investing your time and effort into exposing these sites.
Glad you like them!
I enjoyed this video. I’ve come to learn about scam websites when I got into NFTs cause there are so many scammers behind the NFTs markets so that has helped me get so careful about who I shop with in regards to website addresses and not just clicking links sent for purchasing due to some being fake links that end up confiscating your accounts
tech is great but it is getting more dangerous each day. So we gotta be aware and careful at all times what we click on
Impressive work on your part. Well done
Great work!!!!!!🎉🎉🎉
Thank you!! 😁
Now that you mention Songmont! Can you please do their tumbled leather! I got one and love it so much but wondering if it’s really tumbled or embossed w a plastic finish? The bags quality is so amazing, the stitching, the glazing, the hardware, I’m hoping it’s up to par with you! Can’t wait til you review Songmont!
I already ordered their Luna bag for my next review! Thank you so much for your suggestion!
Thank you for this video and doing your best to shut that shit down🙏
I just love you and your channel!
Thanks for this video!!
You are amazing! Thanks so much for your dedication to the betterment of the luxury industry.
You are so welcome! just following the leads come my way each week. And gratefully, I enjoy this so much now! as much as crafting leather :)
Great video.
Thank you so much.
I wish these websites you reached out to would give you better support to get to the bottom of this. 🙏❤️
Thank you for making it your business however, sometimes these brands can’t do much and the Lawyers do as much as they are getting paid for. Thank you Tanner ❤
Great investigation. Thanks
I appreciate your help. I just got scammed my self. I reached out to my bank and they didn’t want to help. I’m waiting a call from a lawyer, hopefully they will be able to help me.
hopefully you get your money bank. be careful, I now realize why this is increasing so rapidly
Great video!
Tanner you are a good guy please keep up the good work ❤ It is sometimes frustrating how these things are handled..I hope you find a hacker 😊
Excellent video! I’m sure it took you forever to make it. Thank you!
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. It did take quite a bit of time to put together, so I appreciate your recognition and support!
Wow, great video and thank you for all your efforts to get these fake websites down.
Hopefully Polene and Songmont will use their resources to pursue these criminals.
Not sure if you’re aware of Cosette in Australia which has been accused of selling fakes around July last year. They are under investigation by the NSW Fair Trading and are still operating!
Thank you for this deep dive into the fake websites coming out of Turkey. It does seem that they are taking peoples money, but I wonder if any kind of goods are received by the consumers ? I would assume they get nothing and keep wondering what happened to the bags they ordered ? Thank you for all your hard work trying to alert these companies..I hope they look into this and file complaints and use lawyers to shut down these scam operations. For them to do nothing is negligent and harmful to the clients.
Great job!
I saw Polene bags on Aliexpress and not only Polene. I wonder if these fake bags caused downfall of Polene as a high quality brand? I saw few videos on RUclips customers complain about poor quality of Polene bags. I own myself the bag I bought years ago, but these videos made me cautious about this brand now.
Thank you for all your work
Thank you for your appreciation!
Thank you for the information
My pleasure
Great investigative work; I hope you’re able to make more progress! Visiting Istanbul last year, one of my biggest shocks was all the counterfeit/knock-off bags for sale in all types of shops. Some were rather poor quality and obviously imposters, but others were shockingly realistic. Evidently it’s allowed in Türkiye because there was no effort to disguise what was going on (as in other places in Europe and U.S.) 😮
Thank you for this video. I'm sure these scammers are operating in many countries. They are also operational in my home country Belgium. Luckily I didn't fall for their too-good deals. Already looking forward to your next video.
Thank you for watching and be careful. Most of their games are easy to spot if you keep a critical approach
Thank you!
Had to take a moment to thank you!
You're very welcome!
Good for you for exposing these scams. I recently found an Australian website selling Polene also with a fraction of the price. I was very tempted and tried to find some reviews but there was nothing. The website was very convincing and looked legitimate.
Big thank you Tanner Leatherstein for all the tireless, thankless efforts exposing these criminals👍. I am always wary purchasing anything online even via amazon. I am such an old school that I prefer buying the merchandise through brick & mortar establishments. Always do your research before purchasing anything online.
There is a website here in India, the coach website. Its not official, but everything seems so real and they sell everything for half the size.
Hi, thanks for your video, your patience and resilence. I just want to say that, it is possible that the scammers are not Turkish. I live in South Africa and I have noticed that we have a simialr scams happening but instead, the brands targeted are expensive athleisure (eg. North Face). Its strange because sometimes the brand already has it's own local website already, but a fake one pops up too as well. The fake website claims to be an 'outlet' with significantly cheaper prices. Our legal system basically doesn't recognise cybercrimes. When I noticed this trend with various brands, I was helpless. Next time I come across one of them, I will be sure to report them to the brands, espcially for the smaller Aussie & Kiwi brands. Nevertheless, I don't think this is a local scam, because the targeted brands are international brands, that your average South African may have heard of but would have no interest in. Instead, I think they are targeting digital nomads who come to SA for the summer (Nov - Apr) and want to buy brands that they are use to from US or EU. If you are a saffa reading this and know how police departments that could help, please let me know. Thanks again Tanner
Thanks for the info!!!! I cant afford luxury so im always looking into brands like tory burch, kate spade and coach but i also love polene… i was thiking about buying my first polene for mothers day but now ill check twice the seller!!!
Thanks for sharing. That's a commendable investigative work. The amount of time and effort you put into this is not a joke. Wow, you're better than a lot of our police force here.
Shopify don't want to take action because they make money from every transaction - THAT IS DISGUSTING, CAPITALISM AT ITS BEST!
This is a very impressive 👍 Bravo!
They seem to use an AI that scrapes the whole content of a website in few minutes and then allows you to buy a domain and publish the whole website also in minutes.
But here is the catch : the copy that is created by AI can't remake perfectly aome details : either graphic details or code details.
As you are very meticulous and you have a high level on conscienciousness you can catch those details.
I think the next level of cyber security will be to create some plugins or some code that prevent these hackers to steal the original content.
But right now the phenomena is too recent to be fully faced by developpers.
Congratulations, you are doing a great job for your community and your industry.
You are setting a model that hopefully will be followed by many ❤
Great investigation!! Turkey is not alone when it cones to scammers creating fake merchant websites. I live in Canada and came across an online Dooney and Bourke outlet site specifically for Canada. I was so surprised to see it because D&B does not have an office in Canada, nor do they have any brick and mortar locations in Canada. The site had discontinued styles at rock bottom prices. I sent in some very basic information to set up an account and received no reply. No email was sent to me confirming anything, but it wouldn't have been difficult for me to make a purchase without an account. What if I had been naive enough to just make a purchase? I would have lost that money! So scammers will scam wherever they can! ✌🏾
Thank you for sharing. It's crazy how common it is now
Impressive investigating skills !! I would just leave it alone , you never know what those criminals are capable of; let the Brands deal with them. But Thank you for all your efforts 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Thank you for all your effort and for sharing this info with us.
👍good job!
I think they also have this here in the philippines, thanks for exposing them. I was planning to buy from that site because of your previous videos.
The laws need to be updated for these types of scams'
Totally agree with you. It's crucial that laws keep pace with evolving technology and the tactics used by scammers to protect consumers effectively.
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉👊👊 thank you
You are so welcome
You've done your bit👍
definetely tried my best whole week
You became the Polene police 👮 thank for this very informative all I see lately is people trying to scam you,even in Poshmark they shamelessly try to scam you with public messages trying to close a purchase outside the selling app.
Very interesting and very concerning, especially that Shopify isn't vetting their companies. It's just as bad as Facebook running ads for fake companies constantly and ignoring reports with the excuse "they haven't violated our terms of service". I will avoid Shopify completely now, was never a fan to begin with. Thank you for this video.
I'm guessing you never received a bag, fake or otherwise. It seems virtually impossible to shut these kinds of scammers down for good. They just pop up elsewhere under a new identify. Perhaps the only way to stop them--or slow them down--is to educate people on how to recognize a scam. This skill should be taught in the schools. Your video gave some excellent ways anyone can double check on a too-good-to-be-true scam.
It is not only designer bags. It goes to shoes, high end clothings, and list goes on. I learned that if it sounds too good, it is not good at all.
In my area they sell dupes in nail salons hair salons boutiques. I love the look . I only buy direct. Even though there are times I’m tempted by an individual. I don’t. Fashionphile I don’t Il always be thinking it’s fake. I think it’s so big it can’t be controlled. Thanks for all your hard work 👍
Thank you from Turkey
If you can’t afford the luxury, don’t buy in any random shops, try to buy at the serious second hand online shops, they will be secured by „trustee shops“ when something happened. You’ll get your money back. It is still expensive but you will get your stuffs.
We need to avoid such scams online shops by not buying from them 👌🏽👍
Thanks for trying.
I got duped by all birds a few years ago😢
This type of fraud is possible not only in the field of brands. It can be any famous online store or even a marketplace. In Russia, such substrate sites have been operating for several years, they are blocked, but they are created over and over again. There is one piece of advice - make purchases on familiar platforms and pay attention even to the name of the store's domain. And also, get a separate card for online purchases. For example, a virtual one. Good luck to everyone
Wow you are also a hacker 😄 you are very skilled
10:55 this is completely normal there. i was in turkey for vacation very often and i wouldnt even call it noteworthy anymore
Wow, just wow
I was like that whole week, learning bits and pieces as how easy it is to do this and get away with it....
Wow, great job, Sherlock Holmes! These companies should compensate you in some way for your time and effort.
That must have been a lot of work to research! It's a frustrating situation. And unfortunately, I'm not even convinced, that the brands themselves care very much. I mean, about good counterfeits, sure, as that affects their bottom line. But outright scams, where the buyer receives either no or a very inferior product? All that will do is turn people formerly to cheap to buy the normal retail price, into people, who will never shop for anything but the guaranteed original ever again. It's a win for the brands, really, if people realize, they have to actually buy in a store to get the real thing.
Although admittedly, an authentic looking website is a bit different, maybe. But still. I'm pretty sure, most people seeing those prices actually do realize, it's not authentic. These aren't brands whose main clientele is 'too young to know' teenagers, after all.
I mean, maybe I'm a bit cynic, but I could very well see their attitude secretly being: 'Yeah, serves those idiots right for being both cheap and dumb'.
(And yes, I realize many people are struggling financially atm. I do myself. But we're talking about luxury handbags here, not food or gasoline. I can't afford a 500€ handbag either and I can't say, that it affects my quality of life in any way, shape or form).