To all the new Viewers and Subs on the channel! WELCOME! Heads up, I WILL be doing a remake of this video in the future, considering all of you guys’ theories as well. And I have ALOT more videos in store that are just as interesting 🤔 but currently I am deployed right now (IS ARMY SERGEANT HERE 😅) so I won’t be posting videos for a a little while (few months) don’t let that stop you from subscribing and following my other socials to be updated on my return. I just wanted to make a quick comment about this new viewership! Drop your most interesting questions about MHA that you want answered below. Maybe your question will be a video👀
I have two questions not exactly related to MHA, but are all of your videos manga focused? I don't read Manga and REALLY want to avoid spoilers, but this was a GREAT video, so I'm hoping I can watch more lol. Second, where are you deployed? If you're allowed to answer, I mean. :)
@@ZachX888 can’t answer number 2. But I have recently decided that I will ONLY do manga focused videos. It took a lot for me to get there because I was originally going to start doing anime only centric videos. HOWEVER! It’s not necessarily the types of videos you think. The videos I will do will just require more information from the manga rather than the anime. Like if I made a video titled “I read ALL of My Hero Academia in One Video” then clearly I need the manga. And that’s what I’m talking about. I’m going to choose video ideas that are broad, but is about the Manga than the anime. When I get back I hope you get to experience at least one video to understand 🙏🏾
@@MangaVation idk if it's in the Manga but the doctor explains when Deku is quirkless he could tell by the x-rays in foot because bones fuse together in quirk users meaningthe human body is evolvingto handle quirks. Loved the video hope this tidbit helps in next
First time Deku met All Might, All Might explained that his "muscle form" was like a guy who used to be buff sucking in his gut at the pool. AM used to naturally look like that, but the toll of trying to recover from his battle with AFO left him emaciated and weak. But his Mastery of ofa allows his body to remember how to be. It's similar to how Deku's hair stands up like All Might when he uses full power. It's my belief Eventually Deku will look like Prime All Might naturally
OFA is a stockpiling quirk, it stockpiles the strength of its user allowing them to use their full power so it stands to reason OFA stockpiled allmights body allowing him to use OFA
I also believe adult Deku will look like All Might's muscle form too. It especially makes sense because his version of OFA is much more powerful. His body is going to have to adapt for him to eventually be able to use it at 100% without any complications. Can you imagine OFA at Deku's level of 100%, plus using Fa Jin?! 🤯
It would be kinda funny if this entire time there's been so much focus on the power of quirks themselves getting stronger over time that there's actually been a completely different type of physiological evolution happening right under people's noses that's giving some people more naturally resilient bodies. It would be interesting to see if this phenomenon only exists in non quirk users like All Might
Yeah! I been thinking this in the same manner! There is quirk adaptation, let take bakugo for example. explotion is, as we know it, very deadly for us humans, we would just die by point blank range but mha people they are just surviving getting blasted to death they get injured of course but survive none the less, todoroki just got blasted by howitzers impact by bakugo and survived! And the battle of AFO and allmight the woman that survived building collapsed and destroyed by air cannon and only come out with only scratches, scratches! You know that the bodies of mha is becomimg stronger!
This is directly shown with a person with a quirk (an entire family actually) being the entire Todoroki family. DIfferent quirks give people's bodies different constitutions. It's literally canon to the story. Toya inherited only his mother's constitution making him resilient to cold but not heat. The same is true for both Natsuo and Fuyumi judging by Natsuo's statements and the fact both children have inherited their mother's quirk. It's reasonable to assume imo that Deku could be resilient to heat due to his father's firebreathing quirk and possibly has an easier time using Float due to his mother's quirk (even though it only effects small objects. A similar relationship as Fa-jin being able to be used with 45% to get Faux 100% without obliterating his limbs)
One thing for sure: 'human body' means something really different in MhA than it does in rl. Look at Endeavor's strength and endurance- his quirk is purely fire-based, but he pulls off superhuman feats of strength and resilience on the regular. Or take Kirishima- he's talked about how his quirk doesn't give him any kind of offensive edge, but that kid's strength, agility, and sheer athleticism are already superhuman by our standards.
I like to remind people, especially when they complain about how Deku and Bakugo can take certain attacks from Allmight during the Final Exam, in one of the first things we ever see in the manga/show, the Quirk Apprehension Test, Bakugo says without his quirk he was able to throw the ball 67 meters, later we see Deku have his quirk cancelled before the throw and it lands 46 meters away. Both of those are farther than those of the average adult and we're talking about middle schoolers here.
I imagine Kirishima and Sato working out like Endeavor, and having the same muscle gains and superhuman strength in their normal forms. What that would add to the "Harden" & "Sugar Rush" quirks could possibly put them near All Might's league when he fought the USJ Nomu
@@SirWeibrot softball (that weights ~170-200 grams) throwing test norms for 15 years old are approximately 45-55 meters. It's not farther then average adult results (of course if you doesn't talk about 24/7 computer sitting addict adult here) and it actually prooves that Midoriya IS, or at least was an average schooler. HOWEVER, Bakugo, as well as all Todorokies, as well lot's of other guys in MHA really ARE stronger than average person. But I do believe that the reason behind it is the same and quite simple: they all have the quirk factor, meaning that their bodies've adapted to explosions, high temperatures, etc. Bakugo creates strong BOOMs literally on his hands, but he doesn't have any injuries, burns, concustions, etc. I guess it is possible only if his body is just way harder and his muscles are just way stronger. The same thing goes with Kirishima - he does hardening, he doesn't do superpower, however he deffinetely has the latter, because his body becames more, let's put it simple, "concentrated". So yeah, Bakugo throws the ball in a third farther then Midoryia because he HAS a bit of superpower. It's also the reason behind him and Todoroki being completely okay with receiving punches from Midoriya under OFA effect and even being able to keep up with him
All Might had two things: 1. A strong build. 2. 40 years of use with a smaller OFA that mostly HE cultivated. His body once WAS the muscle form, as it was the ideal form to handle his power, but he got wasted after his fight with AFO and was through OFA accessing his optimal form temporarily to handle it. I believe your theory to be a good explanation, but more than him being a special case, I think it was the other way around, in which OFA changed him and made him essentially a naturally occurring Shigaraki after years of use, essentially creating an ON/OFF switch on his body as a side effect per say.
Exactly, His "buff form" is his default because even as a middle schooler and highscooler we were shown that he was more muscular than his "skinny" form. I totally agree
Dabi technically has both his parents quirks as well, (to an extent.) He gained his father's flame ability BUT gained his mother's Ice resistance ability instead of a fire resistance.
@@MangaVation Actually it is a mix of both quirks like you stated with Bakugo. He has his mother's defensive properties to ice but only fire generating powers. Also Shoto technically only has the one quirk, since it is half his body keyed to each element, so his is a hyrbid but much better. Still makes Shoto an exception but really Dabi is the worst case scenario of what Endeavor was doing, while Shoto was the best.
@@joshuad3507 he also doesn't have resistance to either. He has to balance them to regulate his body or it will start to freeze or heat up too much like before he started using the fire in the tournament
@@XxzaidosxX Never said Shoto had resistance, but he overheats and overcools like either parent would, which is still different to Dabi. Dabi full on burns meaning Shoto has some resistance to his own flames like Endeavor but to a point.
We all know that One Punch Man is just My hero academia but 300 years in the future and that Saitama has One for all. Look at all the mutated beings in OPM.
i think its a little more simple, allmight is sickly, dying almost. he looks just out of a coma. but he did really look like his all might form, like before he had the powers that was his actual look. all hes doing is revitalizing his body and letting the lightning that escapes deku to bring him back to "health" changing his look as his weak deflated muscles are now pulsing with power.
I like the idea that the human body would probably adapt to handle the quirks as they got stronger, but I always assumed All Might being able to use 100% of OFA from the start was down to him inheriting a much weaker version of it. I'm sure it helped a lot that he was already pretty buff to start with unlike Deku.
That’s obviously a factor as well. But Remember it was still strong enough to accelerate the life span of a the 4th. So it wasn’t weak, even though it wasn’t as STRONG as All Might made it. And Yoichi also said that the reason All Might was able to wield it was because of his quirklessness. With us not knowing how long the other users wielded it, it’s hard to know how powerful it was on them compared to the 4th user.
@@MangaVation We know Hikage(The 4th) had the quirk for 18 years before it broke him. So using him as a benchmark as he was the one who had it the second longest behind All Might we could assume nobody else had it for more than 10 years(Especially with how young many of them were when they died as they retain their age on death as vestiges). So at minimum All Might likely added 4x the amount of power (roughly) to the quirk as any previous wielder. Likely more as he also relied on the stockpile ability itself far more than any of the other users who had secondary quirks to fall back on. The 4th could split boulders with his level of OFA which I'd be able to see 5% full cowling accomplish maybe at max 10%. 4 generations later would likely put it at half-ish the power it had when Deku acquired it if we're being generous with the numbers. So All Might likely received OFA at 30-60% its current power assuming the stockpile ability grows strictly Linear. This is backed up due to All Might outright stating Air Force requires at least 20% of OFA which from what we've seen seems to be an ability that All Might has always had.
OFA only accelerated the lifespan of wielders that already had a quirk. All Might got a lesser version of the quirk with a more buff body (gran Torino said he COULD use 100% since the beginning, he never said that all mights original 100% didn't get bigger over time. All Might went to UA, so he got the quirk as a giant middle school kid. OFA not only accumulated quirks, but the power of the quirks and power in general.
It's more to do with the fact that All Might didn't train just enough to handle One for All without his limbs blowing off. Unlike Deku, who had to get his body up to shape for the UA entrence exam, All Might had all the time to strengthen his body to be able to handle 100%. We even get the visual representation that Deku's body currently can barely hold One for All using a wine glass spilling over. It's simply Deku's body as a vessel being a rush job, while All Might completed it before recieving One for All.
I agree with the bodies evolving too. Look at the fight with Stain, Deku [with a huge strength and power quirk] and Iida [with a durable legs and strong kick strength boosted by his quirk] they were both beating the shit out of Stain. Stain who has quirk that has nothing to do with his physical athletics or durability, yet still took multiple blows to the head, face, chest and stomach, yet he continued to fight [yes I know he passed out later on, but still the bastard wouldn't go down]. Along with Quirks evolving normal people bodies evolved as well. Without a quirk Deku presumably still took a lot of beatings from bullies, and Bakugo who has an explosive quirk and has used it on Deku many times since their childhood. Meaning that even though Deku did not have a quirk his body was still more durable and resistant than a normal person by our standards. Which means that yes not only Tokoyami's and Koda's bodies have mutations that have nothing to do with their quirks means that their not the only ones. With the coming of quirks peoples bodies have been changing to adapt the the quirks that they may or may not develop. Take Touya/Dabi for example, he has a fire quirk yet has the same resistance to the cold of someone that has an ice quirk like his mother. Which in turn caused his to burn himself with his own flames [I know Endeavor and Shoto can burn themselves aswell but it takes alot for it to happen]. That goes to show that their bodies are evolving naturally to keep up with quirks though at a much slower rate. I'm betting that if we were to take someone from MHA that they'd be more physically strong, fast, resistant etc. than us here.
0:40 My mini theory was always that, quirks affect genetics even if they aren't passed down. Which is why mina had horn antena things, tokoyami has a bird head, etc. Some quirks just change your genes permanently, & those genes can be passed down without the quirk being there
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and how you came to them. Your argument that biological mutations happen separately definitely made a lot of sense for solving the "why can All Might change physical forms" even after he no longer has One for All.
Yeh that’s my main thought, he can still hit the bulked-up form even after OFA completely burned out. It’s not a OFA trait, it’s something unique to him.
That's a great theory. Honestly I always thought that one for all was just bringing Allmight to his prime physical capacity. Even if he could use OFA as soon has he received it, he didn't become his super muscular pro hero self. He was well built but still "skinny" so OFA couldn't make him bigger than he truly was. But because he achieved such a body through training, OFA just brings it back when he uses the quirk. My theory is very simplistic and made sense to me. But yours is epic
i think his muscle form is that part of him that resides inside one for all. as in the later series. its the bigger form shown in the quirk, along side the past uses.
So I’ve just realized in reading many of your comments (and rewatching my video😂) that I went WAYYYYY too deep in my explanation. Lol and all I have to say is, YES! This is how I think for some reason 😂 i really want to make EVERYTHING make sense bc I LOVE this series. I thank you for your support
You did better than me just figuring out alone. After I realized there wasn't an option to pass OFA genetically instead of relying on the wielder finding a successor, I just gave up on trying to make OFA make sense.
No bro. You did it right. Actually without the biological evolution already having taken place the manifestation of quirks could not happen. The bioframe had to be the first to evolve.
Your theory makes so much sense that it might also explain why one for all was growing inside decu because his body adapted to it. What if the quirkless of the MHA world are all able to handle quirks to various degrees like how Aoyama and other people are able to get quirks and adapt to them over time
I loved your deductions and observational skills! Clever, logical and straight to an honest point. Thank you doesn’t even make it justice. From an aspie, i loved this! Thank you. 10/10. For real.
I think a thing to consider for this theory to have more merit to it is to assume Allmight’s parent would have needed to have a similar biological structure as Tokoyami’s parents (i.e. he had a bird shaped head because one of his parents has a head bird). So maybe All Might’s parents could inflate/transform or puff themselves similarly how birds do to attract a mate or a pufferfish does to defend themselves. Similarly the other parent could of had a nearly indestructible body like a tardigrade. So in conclusion, he has a biological advantage because of his body’s natural structure just as someone being tall has an advantage when at a concert or music festival
In the second movie, there was a device which made you stronger that was meant for all might but the antagonist of that movie used it and as a result, made him buff. After that thing broke, he kinda went deflated and I think thats a clue on how it works but idk
All Might's muscle form was his base form until he got one of him organs hurt, so he had to take less time from being a hero and his muscles were not used to the break, so they shrunk down to the now known Small Might as his new base, think of it as crime fighting is his food, and now he's been emaciated from a lack of food and he is being fed into his muscle form every time he uses or used One For All.
The way I've always understood is that OFA was not as powerful when All Might inherited it. That when All Might got it, the power was at a point that All Might didn't need to limit his output because it wasn't as strong as what he cultivated it to be later in his prime. I never imagined All Might got the power at 100% of his prime, just simply able to access the full amount of power that was available when he received it and then spent the next few decades maxing out the power to the point that when he gives it to Deku it is almost to strong for anyone to really obtain.
This Theory might actually be true and might be revealed at the end of MHA. Gran Torino even said to Izuku during season 2 that Toshinori was able to use 100% of OFA right away when he got it, where as Izuku had to go through months and months of training just to use at least use 45% of the power. Thats also to say that if the Muscle Form is an actual secret quirk that manifested later in All Might's life, we never see the quirk used by Izuku either or at least a glimpse of it. Even when used one million percent of OFA against Muscular back in season 3, we don't see any physical changes to his body as a whole. This might actually be the case when it comes to All Might, the Muscle Form was on its own was just a useless biological mutation, but when it combined with OFA, it allowed Toshinori to handle the full power of it right from the start thanks to his Muscles containing the power. When Izuku uses OFA, we see green lightning come from his body, thats because the power isn't fully inside of Izuku because he doesn't have the muscle. We also see this with All Might when he fought All For One in Camino when he used OFA on just his one arm. We saw yellow lightning come from his body because he was only channeling the power into one part of his body. So yes, I do believe this theory to be the truth behind All Might's Muscle Form.
BTW Dabi is another example of a person who's biological structure is separate from his quirk, as in he inherited his biological structure from his mother but quirk from his father, and this ended up in his quirk and biological structure not being able to work together.
I think its much simpler it's just that when all might activates one for all just like deku used to in the beginning with the "x" in the face and such. All might activating the quirk makes him in to the form that was fit to wield the quirk
Your point on him explaining it possibly being wrong is so good All Might has been caught making up things because it’s how he understands it or what makes sense, but we later learn he’s wrong. It happens a couple times he isnt lying he just doesn’t understand!
yeah I agree, I like to think almost everyone has some sort of quirk, even if the quirk is very miniscule that it would not be pronounced enough to be conaidered a quirk. Like Koda, his main quirk is anivoice, but he also may have a secondary mutant quirk that makes his head like a rock. Quirks are not definitive, it is a spectrum and those that shine brightest are the once that we define as quirks
I find this theory very interesting. Could Deku achieve a similar state during the current arc given he was quirkless as well? I love to hear your opinion this as well.
@@angelmatiastorres wrong all mights buff form was his default he never had a skinny form until he got injured by afo because he lost most of his organs and his entire stomach
@@Young_Wrath i said _quirk adaptation_ not _adaptation quirk._ Quirk adaptation is like tokoyami having a bird head but is not the quirk itself. Quirk adaptation is basically leftover genes from the parents's quirk
@@MangaVationThat’s what I was thinking. My interpretation was that one for all manifested itself differently for every wielder. Quirkless ones in particular since they brink out the quirk’s true power. Basically I thought for all might one for all allows him to use excess energy to transorm himself into a muscular form, and for Deku, his body powers up with those red streaks on his skin, and the green lightning is excess energy. That may explain how All might during his for with All for one was able to summon Yellow lightning. Which may mean Deku could possibly transform one day. I don’t know for sure. This is just speculation.
I had a weird theory (i made it up after studying biology) that it's entirely possible that One For All had grown in power to the extent where it could maybe modify the dna of a human, as in, what if all might had a gigantification quirk (from parents) but it was recessive instead of dominant? Like we know that charecters are inherited and are often saved as recessive in the 3rd gen (like the mendel's monohybrid cross)? What if the quirk picked up the recessive quirk factor from All Might's body and molded it into a "Sub-Quirk"? It's not a quirk, but it's a quirk at the same time sort of thing?? What if One For All turned those recessive quirk genes to a usable form? Then again, now there's Deku- He has lightning around him, and we know that a person can create lightning from Firebreath (Firebender shit from Avatar: The Last Airbender) by spliting it into the negative and positive poles- this is where telekenesis comes in- What if Deku's recessive quirk genes was a supposed type of lightning, and One For All managed to manifest it as a "sub-quirk"? This is just me rambling, with a little kid's level of scientific knowledge. What do you guys think?
deku doesnt attack with lightning. all might had lightning aura when he went full power on AFO. the lightning is just a representation of power surging, like dragonball Z ss2
I like it, would make sense if it just made more muscle mass, but not actually increase strength. The more mass means more ofa can be spread so it doesn't just break the small amount of muscle he normally has.
Quirks are like muscles which means if you aren't working them all the time they aren't being stressed. All might says he doesn't have the quirk, but it's killing him as if he is flexing a ripped muscle. So he has the expanded life span while also having a quirk. Also, what if deku's quirk is him just ionizing the air. like he's actually controling the molecules around him. We know that quirks can hide themselves like how One for All was originally was hidden until he was given another quirk, and One for All increased the power of the users own quirk, so it could be all might had a hidden quirk that got leveled up. Also all might is still mist within the One for All space, which means his connection is still foggy and Deku wouldn't have his quirk yet. It would be cool if all mights dies and all of a sudden Deku can transform his strength like all might, using more of his power
Actually all might had to bulk up in order to wield one for all. He began to get thinner when he lost most of his stomach in the battle with all for one.
I would’ve agreed to that but the other factors I can’t deny. Like he literally transforms, he calls it a FORM himself, and he’s able to make individual parts of his body large. It’s just hard for me to not consider those as well
@@MangaVation this was literally only after the injury from AFO. They’ve never once shown him “bulk up” or “ de-bulk” in flashbacks. Nor have they ever shown or mentioned OFA actually being a body augmentation quirk. Its a power stockpiling quirk They literally said its due to him missing internal organs.
@@DunGaud 1) idk why you mentioned quirk. You either didn’t watch the video or you’re just making things up. I acknowledged it’s not a quirk. 2) we literally see all might buff up to his all might form. I show the visuals of it in the video. We got an explanation as how HOW he buff up AND he specifically calls it a form multiple times in the story. I’m going to stop replying. It’s no use if you’re going to take things out of context and/or make things up that was never said by me, just to prove a point that doesn’t at all explains what was shown in the story. Yea! He got wounded! Yea his small form is weak. But to deny that he is actively transforming is intellectually dishonest.
@@MangaVation He said you don't see him bulk up or de bulk in FLASHBACKS. Nobody is disputing that he bulks up, he's "transforming" but it's a cartoon so although people don't recognize him when he's small, it's all cartoon physics.
@@ajl694 we only have 2 chapters where we see a young All Might. That doesn't show anything. But we DO have panels of him literally transforming. Like recently when he met stain, and to prove that he is All Might he transformed to his Buff Form! You can't use that argument because MHA isn't cartoon physics. Him making one arm buff vs AFO is something he DOES. Not bc "cartoon physics" which is used for comedic effect. But if that's your thought then sure
Or simply put, one of his parents had a mutant quirk which enhanced their body in some way. He inherited the general biological structure that came with it, but not the quirk itself.
My main theory is that all might has a sort of body adaption quirk. A quirk that will automatically modify the body to be able to house power. This will be all mights last gift to deku and will keep one for all alive for the next generations to come
4:36 A critique about your graph: To show the theoretical singularity, the blue line should probably plateau at a certain point or accelerate quickly at first then slow down over time. This would demonstrate the biological structure capabilities to handle the quirks until a certain point.
True lol.. I’m not good at visual effects so I just did a generic chart to get the concept. As I learn more about editing VFX I will make more approximate graphs and charts.. I’m actually glad you pointed that out haha.. that means someone cares enough about how info is represented in the story through data! If you see any more of my videos, I hope you’ll see my development
I kinda always just saw it as All Might using One For All’s Stockpile quirk to build up energy and muscle in his body which makes him look like that. One thing to note is that All-Might didn’t always have a weak form, he only got that after the injury he got from his first battle with All For One took it’s toll on him. The way I see it, think of it like how Deku uses the Stockpile quirk. At first he only used it on a single point in his body, unleashing 100% of the power but eventually learned to just let the power flow through his entire body to properly distribute the energy. All-Might is a similar case, except while Deku gets a cool glowing effect on his body, All-Might just gets really buff. Now granted, this wouldn’t explain why All-Might was able to use One For All on the get go without breaking his body but I just chalk that up to him not only being fit enough to withstand higher percentages of One For All, but Deku even states himself that All-Might is never constantly going 100% otherwise he’d create shockwaves whenever he took a step. Therefore, it’s likely he just never really went all out with the quirk until much later when his body had gotten used to it completely, only sticking to maybe 45% or a bit higher when he first got it. So really, to summarize, it’s less All-Might has a body made for the singularity and more so it’s just a visual of how he uses One For All’s Stockpile quirk kinda like when Deku glows.
It’s also likely that OFA was weaker when All Might got it, and has been gaining power inside him for the 40 years he had it; but his body was able to naturally grow and adapt to it as it did so.
I’m a fan of an alternative interpretation of the singularity, which is that as quirks grow more powerful they will surpass the psychological capacity of humans rather than the physical capacity. In other words, characters like Shigaraki and Toga who have destructive desires due to their quirk’s influence will become more common, and eventually quirks will be more dominant in a person’s psyche than typical human instincts
the best way to explain it in my opinion is that he buffs his chest out like a body builder. hes just not able to sustain that pose after the injury so it shrinks.
I think this was hinted at when we first meet eraser, and it’s explained that physical bodies don’t change when he erases a quirk, basically saying that even if your body is mutated in relation to the quirk, it’s still a separate thing and is not affected in the same ways. It would be like froppy having the same appearance because of her parents but never getting the quirks, I think this theory makes a lot more sense than “visual style”, especially because as you said, the rest of the world within MHA does not recognize him in small might form, meaning it’s noticeably different. If they were really going for style and comedy they should have pulled a Clark Kent and had him just slump his posture and wear glasses.
Matthew 25: 1-13 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. 2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. 3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: 4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. 5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. 6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. 7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. 8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. 9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. 10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. 11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. 12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. 13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
6:30 the problem with this point (edit: and the theory) is that it ignores the existence of the third type of quirk wich is the mutant quirk. Just as shoto has 2 quirks, his dad's and mom's quirk (wich are also combination of quirks) , the mutations of having a rock/bird head are on their own, separate quirks from the shadow emitting/animal speaking quirks. If you say that those are just body adaptations from their parents and not part of any quirk, then you're implying that lida has no quirk even though his mutation quirk is very clearly visible in the escape tubes he has in his legs, and he didn't get that out of nowhere that came from his parents. Same with Mina ashido. She also has multiple quirks, she makes acid yes, but her appearance is the result of other quirk combinations of mutant type quirks. Tsuyu and her whole "frog" quirk is a mutation quirk in itself. This same concept is explored in the x-men series, where there is a rapper with the mutant gene that only makes him blue, no powers, he is just blue. I agree, the bodies are adaptating, but I disagree on the basis, that I think that if they are adapting is because of mutation type quirks being added to all the mixes. So no, I don't think all migth is the case because it is stated that he is quirkless. And I don't think this explains his appearance. From a doylist perspective you can argue that his appearance in itself it's a simbolo of who he is now and how he is a shadow of itself. But in lore, I still don't see an explanation Tldr: the different type of bodies, like a bird head, pink skin, rock head, motor legs, are in themselves mutant type quirks. Edit: I think that in the lore mutation quirks are actually called monster type? I don't remember now
But that wouldn't explain y as he was losing ofa, the time he could stay transformed diminished. Wouldn't this detail alone prove that the transformation is connected to ofa, not a his body.
A comment to this would take too long. But if All Might were to transform AFTER losing the embers in OFA then that would prove the transformation isn’t correlated with OFA.. There are 3 different occasions he did this. 1) When deku talked to All Might before the hero raid of Overhaul. (It was whenAll Might told him about Nighteye seeing his future dying) 2) recently in the Anime when All Might met stain. He transformed bc stain didn’t believe he was All Might (even though he actually knew he was All Might) 3) he transformed RIGHT AFTER LOSING ALL THE EMBERS in OFA, in his fight with AFO. (When he has his fist in the air and everyone cheered.) This proves (to me at least lol) that the transformation is separate thing from OFA! The way I see it… the reason he couldn’t keep it long enough it because it’s a TRANSFORMATION that required energy to keep it up! And he doesn’t have a lot of energy to hold face due to the damages he got from AFO. (Which could be why he said he could only hold it for 3 hours a day in ep.1/ch. 1 of MHA)
@@MangaVation while I agree that the transformation is...strange, I'm pretty sure it's just OFA simply reverting his body back to a state in which he could use it, until the time limit ran out and he was forced out of it because of the injuries. There's 2 things I use as evidence for this, 1) All Might never demonstrated the ability to "transform" before recieving OFA. After recieving it, he spent a considerable amount of time bulking up (until his normal state of being was his "muscle form"). However, after the injury, he started dwindling away, but every time he uses OFA, his body temporarily reverts back to a state at which OFA can be sustained, at the cost of further damaging the body and thus reducing it's longevity. The reason why this is important is for your speculation of OFA "powering" the transformation (and not being the source of it) to be correct, All Might should either be able to use OFA without the "muscle form" (which he can't) or he should demonstrate the ability to go into his muscle form prior to receiving OFA (even temporarily, as seen after he loses the embers). 2) According to the author's notes on both the manga and the extra materials, the reason Deku doesn't have a "transformation" when he uses the quirk is because he's leaking out the energy he can't use in the form of "lightning" as opposed to All Might, who, because of his proficiency with OFA and natural athleticism, can contain all of his power within his body. This is why in the final bout against AFO, his body produces yellow lightning when he assumed muscle form on just his arm, because his body is simply too damaged to contain it anymore. This, added to the fact that the official explanation for why All Might can still "transform" after OFA was given is because he still has the charred remains of the quirk that can't really do anything. Through OFA, his body is already genetically altered from a "quirkless" state to a "quirked" state, if that makes sense. If I'm not wrong, this was in the Ultra Analysis booklet. But either way, it's an interesting take on which we might never get a solid answer. Nice to see the MHA community thriving!
Considering the fact that Toshinori was able to use One for All from the beginning I just figured his All Might form was his natural form. While his Small Might form was cause by his injury from the All for One fight.
The shigaraki quirk mutation is probably more complicated but I think you're on the right track. There should be limitations to the eraser quirk, it doesn't work on body modifications but it does affect its ability to modify. I believe
Ahhh! That's right, during the part where they were at the rescue training place (ch 14 in the manga) Eraser Head says he can't erase heteromorphic quirks, only "operative or transformative types." ...though I would maybe call what was happening with Shigaraki "transformative", LOL
I read some of the comments (NOT ALL). I think he's spot on. He says, "After my fight with AFO, I'm unable to maintain that form for more than a couple hours." Then continues to transform after giving OFA to Deku. Also, it's stated that he was able to wield OFA at max power from day one. So the comment of 40 years means nothing. Good job man, we need more free thinkers
Like he said, it’s like sucking in your stomach (or however he phrased it) and when we do that we can only maintain it for so long. And since All Might’s body is all battered, it makes sense that it probably hurts him to hold that form for long periods of time when he doesn’t have the strength of One For All anymore to help. This is just my guess and no need to mind my comment since I’m a year late to the party lol
Because his body is designed to be perfect for holding quirks but if he has no quirk it doesn’t to appear he is like morbidly injurred, he still could btw but for literal seconds before he began gushing blood.
This also supports Gigantomacias body. It was said in the show that his body itself is able to hold multiple quirks without becoming a nomu. And if that was because of a quirk, AFO would've copied it to make more super soldiers.
actually has a theory on what another youtuber said, basically OFA the quirk itself records the user's peak body whenever they turn the quirk on, some of you might say that during the usj attack when all might fought a nomu he said himself that his grown weaker and that 6 punches would've been enough to destroy the nomu, but what we often forget is that OFA is slowly leaving all might's body, and not only that but the injury from when eh fought AFO was also why he couldn't release his strongest punches.
I remember reading an MHA fic that headcanoned that quirkless people could still have tiny, trace levels of quirk factors in their body, just not enough to manifest a quirk. Suggesting that Izuku had both fire and lightning quirk factors(Fire from his father, lightning as abberant/from his mother) and that All Might had gigantification quirk factors. Inheriting mutations and not having any other powers, as you put forward, certainly isn't a mutually exclusive possibility either.
There is one more type of quirk that was missed which also brings the singularity theory into question and that is the child having neither parent’s like Eri. She is effectively a mutation which means it’s possible for quirks to evolve at a more rapid rate.
There might also be the argument that mutation quirks do not get affected. As many mutants in MHA say they don't have a special ability they just look different. for example. froppy does not lose any of her abilities that are associated with her body when she is being looked at in class by Eraser. It seems like quirks that do not need to be activated do not follow the same rules and might not affect compatibility but that it's built on the body as is. So all for 1 might just have given Allmight a negative quirk that interferes with his regular mutation.
Good thought! There's nothing essentially tying a mutation to a quirk, as notable by not every character with a quirk having a mutation. Perhaps what we assumed were mutation "quirks" are simply human adaptation.
I want to add something in this that, all might uses one for all , store power to maintain muscle form by using he power like filling it with power of one for all or simple air ,etc to
This definitely makes more sense then that sucking your gut in excuse, his body doesn’t add up. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was an early stage for his body to cope with OFA and pass it on to be more stable for regular people.
2:05 There's a fourth option, quirkless Its basically Mother Quirk, Father Quirk, Mixed Quirk, New Quirk Based off of Parents, Completely unrelated new quirk, or Quirkless (yes there are six) There's also a chance that Tokoyami also has a Bird head mutation quirk, having both the parents' quirks rather than evolving All Might also can't use his muscle form anymore (or he won't) because he no longer has One for All, you ain't seen him transform after AM vs AFO
We know that All Might is only able to use the Raw Power of OFA cultivated from the passing on of the predecessors, and he further cultivates and adapts until he can control the power so well makes him able to freely channel the energy through his whole/partial of his body, such energy control and channeling has become his base Quirk which gives him super strength. No matter if he's originally muscular (when he was younger) or skinny (current), before a fight starts, I'm sure he makes the OFA raw power surge through his body. During the previous fight with AFO, besides damaging All Might's body, I believe AFO had used some kind of cell destroying quirk to All Might as well. Now he can't even build up his body like a normal person by working out and eating well anymore, he only can bulk up with OFA power surging. In other words, he should've died after that fight with AFO, it's the raw power of OFA keeping him alive because he physically and mentally can adapt to the power so well that, it unconsciously keeps his life force running.
I usually don't comment but, I saw all the 6 season in the last weeks and the 6th in these 3 days, explaining all the facts about the ofa to understanding it, and all the info about the death of the predecessor it's said that: allmight its a user of the ofa from 40 years, making him the longer user etcetera no spoiler we know why, so he is like 50/60 now and talking about his parents i see is a hard thing, but some flashback talking about the allmight origin would be fine, I'm scared the anime is finishing and we get an 8th season maybe. You theory are really good, I never saw this way, i think you're right! And yes you hyped me/blown my mind ahha
It would be good information to know who his parents were. Considering the fact that on the wiki it says they are deceased. But it would be very vital information to know what their quirks were and such. So I agree that the parents play a role in his forms.
another character who has visibly evolved past their quirk is Mina from 1-A, her quirk is acid but her body is not the same as normal humans. a smaller example of genetic structures evolving with quirks, is Toya Todoroki, who like his mom, has more of a resistance to the cold due to having the ice quirk follow their bloodline, however Toya got the wrong quirk and we can visibly see the effects it has on his more cold body
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Your theory makes sense. With the constant change in human evolution with quirks just like one for all with each passing of the user and the abilities stock piling the body of a regular human could in theory evolve as well to accommodate with the changes of what others are going through. Survival of the fittest. So when he got one for all he used it exceptionally well. Although never unlocking other quirks like deku he’s managed to teach deku and deku has evolved even further than all might
By referring to toshinori's body gran torino was referring to him being quirkless. Ujiko didn't say that the body wasn't evolving he said it wasn't evolving fast enough to keep up with quirks.
If its like sucking in a gut to get skinnier, he probably tenses and folds his muscles in on themselves to get smaller then lets them loose when it's plus ultra time. Would explain the toll on his body and coughing up blood etc.
I think partially it is because OFA is an emitter quirk, and I think operates by storing mass as energy that the user can draw on. The energy gains physical weight when they draw it from the vestige world and all might was using a very fine tune control to put specific percentages in different muscles to get a “pump” effect like in body building, which is why he weighed less than his prime form but had greater overall size physique wise. Seems similar to how the Paths and Titans work, and it’s clear that Toshi had the most fine tune control over the power without realizing what he was doing specifically to explain to Deku
Theres another aspect of quirks kids can be born with called Mutation types, not to be confused with Mutant type quirks Mutation quirks are essentially when a kid is born with a quirk that doesn't resemble either of their parents quirk or even another family member quirk and is completely unique to them While rare theres only been one case of this (that i can currently think of) that was confirmed and that's Eri's quirk
@@Sapphire_eclipse Was never confirmed so I didn't count him. Between not knowing either of his parent's quirks (more importantly on his mother's side) there's a sliver of a chance the quirk was just given to him by AFO. Either way we have no idea if he was another case of a Mutation
They did say there are four different types of quirks, emitter quirks, transformation quirks, accumulation quirks and mutation quirks. Mutation quiks are like Ojiro's tail, Tokoyami's bird face etc Aizawa's quirk doesn't work on mutation quirks because they are purly physical and are part of the persons actual genetic form. He can't camcel them out. They are considered a true quick though and wouldn't be considered quirkless
I agree heavily with this theory just because of how things actually work in real life. Although, yes, we don’t have something so “immense” like quirks or powers but look at how the human body evolves. Though out history, we’ve seen how the human body adjusts to what people need at a certain period of time. Yes, human evolution might not be as fast as quirk evolution (if we compare to irl) but it’s probably gonna catch up sooner or later.
This has already been stated in the series though. With Endavor saying “Shoto needs to have natural resilience to both the heat and cold” which means they know about the physical evolution
Yup that shigaraki point sold me on this theory. I had forgotten he was doing all that but it technically wasn’t a quirk. So y’a all might might be doing the same just to a lesser extent
I got the impression that All Might bulking up is just an application of OFA that's handy for his specific circumstances that wouldn't really be relevant to anyone else that's had it so far. For why he's so good with it, it's because he's had it from a young age and lacking a quirk makes his body more flexible to adapting to a new quirk than someone with a quirk receiving another one. He's had it the longest out of anyone and is a physical learner, which helped him intuit OFA more quickly and with less injury than Izuku. Izuku's difficulties are a combination of being a different kind of learner, AM's inexperience with teaching and the large gap between AM's first experience with OFA and Izuku's after all the time it had to accumulate power in between. Also, physical traits and quirk classifications are more complicated than just having a bird head being unrelated to Dark Shadow. Emitter type quirks sometimes come with mutation traits that don't really do much to the emitter quirk and therefore aren't really mentioned, which is what's going on with Koda and Tokoyami. It's still part of their quirks but not really relevant to the registration of their abilities. Uraraka has little finger pads on her hands that activate her quirk, Shigaraki's skin problems are implied to be a side effect of her quirk, etc. It's directly related to having a quirk, though sometimes you get people like Dabi whose body is adapted to one parent's quirk while inheriting the other's and having problems due to it. The info given about people's quirks tend to be simplification for documentation and limited by how people understood the quirk at the time the paperwork was filed. Izuku registered OF as 'Superpower' and wrote something about strength augmentation. Sometimes quirks change or people's understanding of its function and application change enough that they need to update the paperwork to be more accurate. I would take AFO's doctor's info with a pretty heavy grain of salt given his ethics and some of the stuff he says is straight up eugenics. I'm hoping BNHA doesn't operate on that view of evolution but you never really know for sure until the series wraps up when this kind of thing happens.
All might was that big naturally but he shrunk down after his injury from afo but ofa remembers how he’s supposed to be which is why when he flexes he changes back to how ofa originally remembers him
@@Young_Wrath In terms of mechanics, describing it as just flexing muscles isn't very helpful. Mechanically, it could be comparable in that using a quirk is a metaphorical superpower equivalent to flexing physical muscles but it's not literally what it is. OFA's stored energy seems to be capable of restoring optimal strength and mass into muscles when channeled by someone who's trained with it extensively the same way it augments natural physical strength. The strength augmentation comes from stored physical potential rather than a strength augmentation quirk getting thrown into the mix, after all. I never really liked describing it as him shrinking down since it reminds me of how the anime did him dirty on that. In the manga, it's pretty clear that he's just as tall in both forms because his skeletal structure remains unaffected and the difference is purely in muscle mass and posture. We see with other quirks that intense use or augmentation from things like trigger can cause physical changes where there were none before or new ones as the quirk becomes stronger, so it makes sense that a quirk whose primary function is to stockpile physical potential would be able to be applied to temporarily restore previous muscle mass to use it more safely.
Damn this is a really thought out theory which makes a lot of sense. Not sure if it was obvious or not but my initial impression of all might was that his muscle form was just a result of him working his body out, (so it was his normal body) and it was only after his battle with OFA that he had to flex to temporarily get back to that size to house OFA although at a time limit since you can’t flex forever. My own theory was debunked after reading mha vigilantes because there was a chapter pre ofa fight, where all might was in a normal body (not skinny one) and was called onto the scene so he transformed into his muscle form. I know that it was before his fall because OFA did not have a mask on yet. This proves that all might always had a seperate muscle form and it had nothing to do with his injury, all the injury did was limit the power and time usage.
We only saw all might and deku use ofa and they look completely different in case of all might he gets buff and deku's case it looks like "lightning" is going through his body. So I think every user (we didn't really see any other user use ofa) has a different look for ofa.
@@vnagfightergaming3665 I agree, although I think the premise of this video and somewhat mine was that all might muscle form may be a seperate thing from OFA. It’s just something he can physically do in his own. After all all might went into his muscle form a few times as a joke after passing OFA to deku.
with that thiory it would mean that it is very likely that the one who had one for all before him gave it to him in order to make sure all for one didnt get ahold of him
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I have two questions not exactly related to MHA, but are all of your videos manga focused? I don't read Manga and REALLY want to avoid spoilers, but this was a GREAT video, so I'm hoping I can watch more lol.
Second, where are you deployed? If you're allowed to answer, I mean. :)
@@ZachX888 can’t answer number 2. But I have recently decided that I will ONLY do manga focused videos. It took a lot for me to get there because I was originally going to start doing anime only centric videos. HOWEVER! It’s not necessarily the types of videos you think. The videos I will do will just require more information from the manga rather than the anime. Like if I made a video titled “I read ALL of My Hero Academia in One Video” then clearly I need the manga. And that’s what I’m talking about. I’m going to choose video ideas that are broad, but is about the Manga than the anime. When I get back I hope you get to experience at least one video to understand 🙏🏾
@@MangaVation Yeah I figured lol. Thanks for the reply. :)
@@MangaVation idk if it's in the Manga but the doctor explains when Deku is quirkless he could tell by the x-rays in foot because bones fuse together in quirk users meaningthe human body is evolvingto handle quirks. Loved the video hope this tidbit helps in next
First time Deku met All Might, All Might explained that his "muscle form" was like a guy who used to be buff sucking in his gut at the pool. AM used to naturally look like that, but the toll of trying to recover from his battle with AFO left him emaciated and weak. But his Mastery of ofa allows his body to remember how to be. It's similar to how Deku's hair stands up like All Might when he uses full power. It's my belief Eventually Deku will look like Prime All Might naturally
Yeah. He's basically flexing his whole body when in his buff form. Which is impressive in and of itself: dude can hold a flex for *hours.*
OFA is a stockpiling quirk, it stockpiles the strength of its user allowing them to use their full power so it stands to reason OFA stockpiled allmights body allowing him to use OFA
Deku's body will be a *FAR MORE* muscular and builded at his Prime.
@@wyslanniknewworldorder9525 he could end up with a Swimmers body with thin muscles but strong
I also believe adult Deku will look like All Might's muscle form too. It especially makes sense because his version of OFA is much more powerful. His body is going to have to adapt for him to eventually be able to use it at 100% without any complications.
Can you imagine OFA at Deku's level of 100%, plus using Fa Jin?! 🤯
It would be kinda funny if this entire time there's been so much focus on the power of quirks themselves getting stronger over time that there's actually been a completely different type of physiological evolution happening right under people's noses that's giving some people more naturally resilient bodies. It would be interesting to see if this phenomenon only exists in non quirk users like All Might
Yeah! I been thinking this in the same manner! There is quirk adaptation, let take bakugo for example. explotion is, as we know it, very deadly for us humans, we would just die by point blank range but mha people they are just surviving getting blasted to death they get injured of course but survive none the less, todoroki just got blasted by howitzers impact by bakugo and survived! And the battle of AFO and allmight the woman that survived building collapsed and destroyed by air cannon and only come out with only scratches, scratches! You know that the bodies of mha is becomimg stronger!
This is directly shown with a person with a quirk (an entire family actually) being the entire Todoroki family. DIfferent quirks give people's bodies different constitutions. It's literally canon to the story. Toya inherited only his mother's constitution making him resilient to cold but not heat. The same is true for both Natsuo and Fuyumi judging by Natsuo's statements and the fact both children have inherited their mother's quirk. It's reasonable to assume imo that Deku could be resilient to heat due to his father's firebreathing quirk and possibly has an easier time using Float due to his mother's quirk (even though it only effects small objects. A similar relationship as Fa-jin being able to be used with 45% to get Faux 100% without obliterating his limbs)
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So Allmight was a quark less mutant. Lol
@@JudojugsVtuberthis is actually pretty cool what u just said
Being able to turn buff without using a quirk just proves that he is *HIM*
Indeed he is HIM😂😂😂😂
No. He is HERE
One thing for sure: 'human body' means something really different in MhA than it does in rl. Look at Endeavor's strength and endurance- his quirk is purely fire-based, but he pulls off superhuman feats of strength and resilience on the regular.
Or take Kirishima- he's talked about how his quirk doesn't give him any kind of offensive edge, but that kid's strength, agility, and sheer athleticism are already superhuman by our standards.
I like to remind people, especially when they complain about how Deku and Bakugo can take certain attacks from Allmight during the Final Exam, in one of the first things we ever see in the manga/show, the Quirk Apprehension Test, Bakugo says without his quirk he was able to throw the ball 67 meters, later we see Deku have his quirk cancelled before the throw and it lands 46 meters away. Both of those are farther than those of the average adult and we're talking about middle schoolers here.
I imagine Kirishima and Sato working out like Endeavor, and having the same muscle gains and superhuman strength in their normal forms. What that would add to the "Harden" & "Sugar Rush" quirks could possibly put them near All Might's league when he fought the USJ Nomu
So basically anime humans
@@SirWeibrot softball (that weights ~170-200 grams) throwing test norms for 15 years old are approximately 45-55 meters. It's not farther then average adult results (of course if you doesn't talk about 24/7 computer sitting addict adult here) and it actually prooves that Midoriya IS, or at least was an average schooler.
HOWEVER, Bakugo, as well as all Todorokies, as well lot's of other guys in MHA really ARE stronger than average person.
But I do believe that the reason behind it is the same and quite simple: they all have the quirk factor, meaning that their bodies've adapted to explosions, high temperatures, etc.
Bakugo creates strong BOOMs literally on his hands, but he doesn't have any injuries, burns, concustions, etc. I guess it is possible only if his body is just way harder and his muscles are just way stronger.
The same thing goes with Kirishima - he does hardening, he doesn't do superpower, however he deffinetely has the latter, because his body becames more, let's put it simple, "concentrated".
So yeah, Bakugo throws the ball in a third farther then Midoryia because he HAS a bit of superpower.
It's also the reason behind him and Todoroki being completely okay with receiving punches from Midoriya under OFA effect and even being able to keep up with him
It's just secondary effects of their bodies adaptation to their quirks, that's all
All Might had two things:
1. A strong build.
2. 40 years of use with a smaller OFA that mostly HE cultivated.
His body once WAS the muscle form, as it was the ideal form to handle his power, but he got wasted after his fight with AFO and was through OFA accessing his optimal form temporarily to handle it. I believe your theory to be a good explanation, but more than him being a special case, I think it was the other way around, in which OFA changed him and made him essentially a naturally occurring Shigaraki after years of use, essentially creating an ON/OFF switch on his body as a side effect per say.
@Chicken Nugget it was less notorious tho, like seeing Clark Kent change posture and taking off his glasses
AM was naturally buff but after the damage, he lost the ability to be buff since he lost his stomach, lung and other vital organs.
@@squallthegriever This is the correct interpretation. Everything else is head cannon.
this is what i thought too and i fully agree
Exactly, His "buff form" is his default because even as a middle schooler and highscooler we were shown that he was more muscular than his "skinny" form. I totally agree
Dabi technically has both his parents quirks as well, (to an extent.)
He gained his father's flame ability BUT gained his mother's Ice resistance ability instead of a fire resistance.
No! He only has endeavors quirk. He has the body of his mother. But that’s not a quirk. That’s his biological
@@MangaVation Actually it is a mix of both quirks like you stated with Bakugo. He has his mother's defensive properties to ice but only fire generating powers.
Also Shoto technically only has the one quirk, since it is half his body keyed to each element, so his is a hyrbid but much better. Still makes Shoto an exception but really Dabi is the worst case scenario of what Endeavor was doing, while Shoto was the best.
@@joshuad3507 have they ever shown that he has resistance to ice though?
@@joshuad3507 he also doesn't have resistance to either. He has to balance them to regulate his body or it will start to freeze or heat up too much like before he started using the fire in the tournament
@@XxzaidosxX Never said Shoto had resistance, but he overheats and overcools like either parent would, which is still different to Dabi. Dabi full on burns meaning Shoto has some resistance to his own flames like Endeavor but to a point.
We all know that One Punch Man is just My hero academia but 300 years in the future and that Saitama has One for all. Look at all the mutated beings in OPM.
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i think its a little more simple, allmight is sickly, dying almost. he looks just out of a coma. but he did really look like his all might form, like before he had the powers that was his actual look. all hes doing is revitalizing his body and letting the lightning that escapes deku to bring him back to "health" changing his look as his weak deflated muscles are now pulsing with power.
Yeah, what you said makes more sense. I agree
All Might doesn't have a quirk, he just ate the gum gum fruit.
I like the idea that the human body would probably adapt to handle the quirks as they got stronger, but I always assumed All Might being able to use 100% of OFA from the start was down to him inheriting a much weaker version of it. I'm sure it helped a lot that he was already pretty buff to start with unlike Deku.
That’s obviously a factor as well. But Remember it was still strong enough to accelerate the life span of a the 4th. So it wasn’t weak, even though it wasn’t as STRONG as All Might made it. And Yoichi also said that the reason All Might was able to wield it was because of his quirklessness.
With us not knowing how long the other users wielded it, it’s hard to know how powerful it was on them compared to the 4th user.
@@MangaVation We know Hikage(The 4th) had the quirk for 18 years before it broke him. So using him as a benchmark as he was the one who had it the second longest behind All Might we could assume nobody else had it for more than 10 years(Especially with how young many of them were when they died as they retain their age on death as vestiges). So at minimum All Might likely added 4x the amount of power (roughly) to the quirk as any previous wielder. Likely more as he also relied on the stockpile ability itself far more than any of the other users who had secondary quirks to fall back on.
The 4th could split boulders with his level of OFA which I'd be able to see 5% full cowling accomplish maybe at max 10%. 4 generations later would likely put it at half-ish the power it had when Deku acquired it if we're being generous with the numbers. So All Might likely received OFA at 30-60% its current power assuming the stockpile ability grows strictly Linear. This is backed up due to All Might outright stating Air Force requires at least 20% of OFA which from what we've seen seems to be an ability that All Might has always had.
OFA only accelerated the lifespan of wielders that already had a quirk. All Might got a lesser version of the quirk with a more buff body (gran Torino said he COULD use 100% since the beginning, he never said that all mights original 100% didn't get bigger over time. All Might went to UA, so he got the quirk as a giant middle school kid. OFA not only accumulated quirks, but the power of the quirks and power in general.
I mean that was the whole thing Endevour was doing
Doctor's a dumbass thinking bodies won't adapt to their powers
It's more to do with the fact that All Might didn't train just enough to handle One for All without his limbs blowing off. Unlike Deku, who had to get his body up to shape for the UA entrence exam, All Might had all the time to strengthen his body to be able to handle 100%. We even get the visual representation that Deku's body currently can barely hold One for All using a wine glass spilling over. It's simply Deku's body as a vessel being a rush job, while All Might completed it before recieving One for All.
I agree with the bodies evolving too. Look at the fight with Stain, Deku [with a huge strength and power quirk] and Iida [with a durable legs and strong kick strength boosted by his quirk] they were both beating the shit out of Stain. Stain who has quirk that has nothing to do with his physical athletics or durability, yet still took multiple blows to the head, face, chest and stomach, yet he continued to fight [yes I know he passed out later on, but still the bastard wouldn't go down]. Along with Quirks evolving normal people bodies evolved as well. Without a quirk Deku presumably still took a lot of beatings from bullies, and Bakugo who has an explosive quirk and has used it on Deku many times since their childhood. Meaning that even though Deku did not have a quirk his body was still more durable and resistant than a normal person by our standards. Which means that yes not only Tokoyami's and Koda's bodies have mutations that have nothing to do with their quirks means that their not the only ones. With the coming of quirks peoples bodies have been changing to adapt the the quirks that they may or may not develop. Take Touya/Dabi for example, he has a fire quirk yet has the same resistance to the cold of someone that has an ice quirk like his mother. Which in turn caused his to burn himself with his own flames [I know Endeavor and Shoto can burn themselves aswell but it takes alot for it to happen]. That goes to show that their bodies are evolving naturally to keep up with quirks though at a much slower rate. I'm betting that if we were to take someone from MHA that they'd be more physically strong, fast, resistant etc. than us here.
0:40 My mini theory was always that, quirks affect genetics even if they aren't passed down.
Which is why mina had horn antena things, tokoyami has a bird head, etc.
Some quirks just change your genes permanently, & those genes can be passed down without the quirk being there
Gran torino did the same in season 6 against shigaraki when he went to punch him his arms got buffer and changed
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and how you came to them. Your argument that biological mutations happen separately definitely made a lot of sense for solving the "why can All Might change physical forms" even after he no longer has One for All.
Yeh that’s my main thought, he can still hit the bulked-up form even after OFA completely burned out. It’s not a OFA trait, it’s something unique to him.
That's a great theory.
Honestly I always thought that one for all was just bringing Allmight to his prime physical capacity. Even if he could use OFA as soon has he received it, he didn't become his super muscular pro hero self. He was well built but still "skinny" so OFA couldn't make him bigger than he truly was. But because he achieved such a body through training, OFA just brings it back when he uses the quirk.
My theory is very simplistic and made sense to me.
But yours is epic
i think his muscle form is that part of him that resides inside one for all. as in the later series. its the bigger form shown in the quirk, along side the past uses.
The manga shows small-might. My belief is it shows when the person dies
So I’ve just realized in reading many of your comments (and rewatching my video😂) that I went WAYYYYY too deep in my explanation. Lol and all I have to say is, YES! This is how I think for some reason 😂 i really want to make EVERYTHING make sense bc I LOVE this series. I thank you for your support
You did better than me just figuring out alone. After I realized there wasn't an option to pass OFA genetically instead of relying on the wielder finding a successor, I just gave up on trying to make OFA make sense.
Dude, you are good. A lot of us go deep like that too!
No bro. You did it right. Actually without the biological evolution already having taken place the manifestation of quirks could not happen. The bioframe had to be the first to evolve.
nah you didnt this was sick
Your theory makes so much sense that it might also explain why one for all was growing inside decu because his body adapted to it.
What if the quirkless of the MHA world are all able to handle quirks to various degrees like how Aoyama and other people are able to get quirks and adapt to them over time
I loved your deductions and observational skills! Clever, logical and straight to an honest point.
Thank you doesn’t even make it justice. From an aspie, i loved this!
Thank you. 10/10. For real.
I think a thing to consider for this theory to have more merit to it is to assume Allmight’s parent would have needed to have a similar biological structure as Tokoyami’s parents (i.e. he had a bird shaped head because one of his parents has a head bird). So maybe All Might’s parents could inflate/transform or puff themselves similarly how birds do to attract a mate or a pufferfish does to defend themselves. Similarly the other parent could of had a nearly indestructible body like a tardigrade. So in conclusion, he has a biological advantage because of his body’s natural structure just as someone being tall has an advantage when at a concert or music festival
That’s a very good speculation.
In the second movie, there was a device which made you stronger that was meant for all might but the antagonist of that movie used it and as a result, made him buff. After that thing broke, he kinda went deflated and I think thats a clue on how it works but idk
All Might's muscle form was his base form until he got one of him organs hurt, so he had to take less time from being a hero and his muscles were not used to the break, so they shrunk down to the now known Small Might as his new base, think of it as crime fighting is his food, and now he's been emaciated from a lack of food and he is being fed into his muscle form every time he uses or used One For All.
(He’s also literally emaciated from a lack of food, IIRC AFO got part of his stomach with the attack) 😂
The way I've always understood is that OFA was not as powerful when All Might inherited it. That when All Might got it, the power was at a point that All Might didn't need to limit his output because it wasn't as strong as what he cultivated it to be later in his prime. I never imagined All Might got the power at 100% of his prime, just simply able to access the full amount of power that was available when he received it and then spent the next few decades maxing out the power to the point that when he gives it to Deku it is almost to strong for anyone to really obtain.
This Theory might actually be true and might be revealed at the end of MHA. Gran Torino even said to Izuku during season 2 that Toshinori was able to use 100% of OFA right away when he got it, where as Izuku had to go through months and months of training just to use at least use 45% of the power. Thats also to say that if the Muscle Form is an actual secret quirk that manifested later in All Might's life, we never see the quirk used by Izuku either or at least a glimpse of it. Even when used one million percent of OFA against Muscular back in season 3, we don't see any physical changes to his body as a whole. This might actually be the case when it comes to All Might, the Muscle Form was on its own was just a useless biological mutation, but when it combined with OFA, it allowed Toshinori to handle the full power of it right from the start thanks to his Muscles containing the power. When Izuku uses OFA, we see green lightning come from his body, thats because the power isn't fully inside of Izuku because he doesn't have the muscle. We also see this with All Might when he fought All For One in Camino when he used OFA on just his one arm. We saw yellow lightning come from his body because he was only channeling the power into one part of his body. So yes, I do believe this theory to be the truth behind All Might's Muscle Form.
BTW Dabi is another example of a person who's biological structure is separate from his quirk, as in he inherited his biological structure from his mother but quirk from his father, and this ended up in his quirk and biological structure not being able to work together.
I think its much simpler it's just that when all might activates one for all just like deku used to in the beginning with the "x" in the face and such. All might activating the quirk makes him in to the form that was fit to wield the quirk
Shigaraki's Awakened Decay powerset has gotta b a top 10 powerset in fiction (not just manga, comics & books too)! Shigs is underrated AF
You always going beyond with these theories nothing ever in my mind would think all might could be above the singularity BRILLIANT
Your point on him explaining it possibly being wrong is so good
All Might has been caught making up things because it’s how he understands it or what makes sense, but we later learn he’s wrong. It happens a couple times he isnt lying he just doesn’t understand!
yeah I agree, I like to think almost everyone has some sort of quirk, even if the quirk is very miniscule that it would not be pronounced enough to be conaidered a quirk. Like Koda, his main quirk is anivoice, but he also may have a secondary mutant quirk that makes his head like a rock. Quirks are not definitive, it is a spectrum and those that shine brightest are the once that we define as quirks
I find this theory very interesting. Could Deku achieve a similar state during the current arc given he was quirkless as well? I love to hear your opinion this as well.
That could explain something with his lightning 👀
Toshinori as a special body because he has some quirk adaptations (not quirk itself but the genes) that allow him mold his body.
@@angelmatiastorres wrong all mights buff form was his default he never had a skinny form until he got injured by afo because he lost most of his organs and his entire stomach
@@Young_Wrath i said _quirk adaptation_ not _adaptation quirk._
Quirk adaptation is like tokoyami having a bird head but is not the quirk itself.
Quirk adaptation is basically leftover genes from the parents's quirk
@@MangaVationThat’s what I was thinking. My interpretation was that one for all manifested itself differently for every wielder. Quirkless ones in particular since they brink out the quirk’s true power. Basically I thought for all might one for all allows him to use excess energy to transorm himself into a muscular form, and for Deku, his body powers up with those red streaks on his skin, and the green lightning is excess energy.
That may explain how All might during his for with All for one was able to summon Yellow lightning. Which may mean Deku could possibly transform one day. I don’t know for sure. This is just speculation.
All might is just Built Different
I had a weird theory (i made it up after studying biology) that it's entirely possible that One For All had grown in power to the extent where it could maybe modify the dna of a human, as in, what if all might had a gigantification quirk (from parents) but it was recessive instead of dominant? Like we know that charecters are inherited and are often saved as recessive in the 3rd gen (like the mendel's monohybrid cross)? What if the quirk picked up the recessive quirk factor from All Might's body and molded it into a "Sub-Quirk"? It's not a quirk, but it's a quirk at the same time sort of thing?? What if One For All turned those recessive quirk genes to a usable form?
Then again, now there's Deku- He has lightning around him, and we know that a person can create lightning from Firebreath (Firebender shit from Avatar: The Last Airbender) by spliting it into the negative and positive poles- this is where telekenesis comes in- What if Deku's recessive quirk genes was a supposed type of lightning, and One For All managed to manifest it as a "sub-quirk"?
This is just me rambling, with a little kid's level of scientific knowledge. What do you guys think?
i like it
Could be true
deku doesnt attack with lightning. all might had lightning aura when he went full power on AFO. the lightning is just a representation of power surging, like dragonball Z ss2
I like it, would make sense if it just made more muscle mass, but not actually increase strength. The more mass means more ofa can be spread so it doesn't just break the small amount of muscle he normally has.
Quirks are like muscles which means if you aren't working them all the time they aren't being stressed. All might says he doesn't have the quirk, but it's killing him as if he is flexing a ripped muscle. So he has the expanded life span while also having a quirk. Also, what if deku's quirk is him just ionizing the air. like he's actually controling the molecules around him. We know that quirks can hide themselves like how One for All was originally was hidden until he was given another quirk, and One for All increased the power of the users own quirk, so it could be all might had a hidden quirk that got leveled up. Also all might is still mist within the One for All space, which means his connection is still foggy and Deku wouldn't have his quirk yet. It would be cool if all mights dies and all of a sudden Deku can transform his strength like all might, using more of his power
Actually all might had to bulk up in order to wield one for all. He began to get thinner when he lost most of his stomach in the battle with all for one.
I would’ve agreed to that but the other factors I can’t deny. Like he literally transforms, he calls it a FORM himself, and he’s able to make individual parts of his body large. It’s just hard for me to not consider those as well
@@MangaVation this was literally only after the injury from AFO. They’ve never once shown him “bulk up” or “ de-bulk” in flashbacks. Nor have they ever shown or mentioned OFA actually being a body augmentation quirk. Its a power stockpiling quirk
They literally said its due to him missing internal organs.
@@DunGaud 1) idk why you mentioned quirk. You either didn’t watch the video or you’re just making things up. I acknowledged it’s not a quirk.
2) we literally see all might buff up to his all might form. I show the visuals of it in the video. We got an explanation as how HOW he buff up AND he specifically calls it a form multiple times in the story.
I’m going to stop replying. It’s no use if you’re going to take things out of context and/or make things up that was never said by me, just to prove a point that doesn’t at all explains what was shown in the story.
Yea! He got wounded! Yea his small form is weak. But to deny that he is actively transforming is intellectually dishonest.
@@MangaVation He said you don't see him bulk up or de bulk in FLASHBACKS. Nobody is disputing that he bulks up, he's "transforming" but it's a cartoon so although people don't recognize him when he's small, it's all cartoon physics.
@@ajl694 we only have 2 chapters where we see a young All Might. That doesn't show anything.
But we DO have panels of him literally transforming. Like recently when he met stain, and to prove that he is All Might he transformed to his Buff Form!
You can't use that argument because MHA isn't cartoon physics. Him making one arm buff vs AFO is something he DOES. Not bc "cartoon physics" which is used for comedic effect.
But if that's your thought then sure
Or simply put, one of his parents had a mutant quirk which enhanced their body in some way. He inherited the general biological structure that came with it, but not the quirk itself.
My main theory is that all might has a sort of body adaption quirk. A quirk that will automatically modify the body to be able to house power. This will be all mights last gift to deku and will keep one for all alive for the next generations to come
4:36 A critique about your graph: To show the theoretical singularity, the blue line should probably plateau at a certain point or accelerate quickly at first then slow down over time. This would demonstrate the biological structure capabilities to handle the quirks until a certain point.
True lol.. I’m not good at visual effects so I just did a generic chart to get the concept. As I learn more about editing VFX I will make more approximate graphs and charts.. I’m actually glad you pointed that out haha.. that means someone cares enough about how info is represented in the story through data! If you see any more of my videos, I hope you’ll see my development
I kinda always just saw it as All Might using One For All’s Stockpile quirk to build up energy and muscle in his body which makes him look like that. One thing to note is that All-Might didn’t always have a weak form, he only got that after the injury he got from his first battle with All For One took it’s toll on him.
The way I see it, think of it like how Deku uses the Stockpile quirk. At first he only used it on a single point in his body, unleashing 100% of the power but eventually learned to just let the power flow through his entire body to properly distribute the energy. All-Might is a similar case, except while Deku gets a cool glowing effect on his body, All-Might just gets really buff.
Now granted, this wouldn’t explain why All-Might was able to use One For All on the get go without breaking his body but I just chalk that up to him not only being fit enough to withstand higher percentages of One For All, but Deku even states himself that All-Might is never constantly going 100% otherwise he’d create shockwaves whenever he took a step. Therefore, it’s likely he just never really went all out with the quirk until much later when his body had gotten used to it completely, only sticking to maybe 45% or a bit higher when he first got it.
So really, to summarize, it’s less All-Might has a body made for the singularity and more so it’s just a visual of how he uses One For All’s Stockpile quirk kinda like when Deku glows.
It’s also likely that OFA was weaker when All Might got it, and has been gaining power inside him for the 40 years he had it; but his body was able to naturally grow and adapt to it as it did so.
@@TheCrazyCapMaster yeah but he worked for his physical strength he was naturally big without ofa even gran torino stated this
Brother that candle balancing for its life in the beginning was so funny to me for some reason
I’m a fan of an alternative interpretation of the singularity, which is that as quirks grow more powerful they will surpass the psychological capacity of humans rather than the physical capacity. In other words, characters like Shigaraki and Toga who have destructive desires due to their quirk’s influence will become more common, and eventually quirks will be more dominant in a person’s psyche than typical human instincts
the best way to explain it in my opinion is that he buffs his chest out like a body builder. hes just not able to sustain that pose after the injury so it shrinks.
Grand tureno can transform too I wonder if he was secretly all mights Dad and took him in to train him...
Very well put very interesting perspective. That makes a ton of sense! Great work! I’ve been really questioning what’s the deal with all might.
It makes sense given that fact we are told that by the time Deku got One for All he had already passed the Quirk Singularity.
I think this was hinted at when we first meet eraser, and it’s explained that physical bodies don’t change when he erases a quirk, basically saying that even if your body is mutated in relation to the quirk, it’s still a separate thing and is not affected in the same ways. It would be like froppy having the same appearance because of her parents but never getting the quirks, I think this theory makes a lot more sense than “visual style”, especially because as you said, the rest of the world within MHA does not recognize him in small might form, meaning it’s noticeably different. If they were really going for style and comedy they should have pulled a Clark Kent and had him just slump his posture and wear glasses.
Matthew 25: 1-13
Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
6:30 the problem with this point (edit: and the theory) is that it ignores the existence of the third type of quirk wich is the mutant quirk.
Just as shoto has 2 quirks, his dad's and mom's quirk (wich are also combination of quirks) , the mutations of having a rock/bird head are on their own, separate quirks from the shadow emitting/animal speaking quirks.
If you say that those are just body adaptations from their parents and not part of any quirk, then you're implying that lida has no quirk even though his mutation quirk is very clearly visible in the escape tubes he has in his legs, and he didn't get that out of nowhere that came from his parents. Same with Mina ashido. She also has multiple quirks, she makes acid yes, but her appearance is the result of other quirk combinations of mutant type quirks.
Tsuyu and her whole "frog" quirk is a mutation quirk in itself.
This same concept is explored in the x-men series, where there is a rapper with the mutant gene that only makes him blue, no powers, he is just blue.
I agree, the bodies are adaptating, but I disagree on the basis, that I think that if they are adapting is because of mutation type quirks being added to all the mixes.
So no, I don't think all migth is the case because it is stated that he is quirkless. And I don't think this explains his appearance.
From a doylist perspective you can argue that his appearance in itself it's a simbolo of who he is now and how he is a shadow of itself. But in lore, I still don't see an explanation
Tldr: the different type of bodies, like a bird head, pink skin, rock head, motor legs, are in themselves mutant type quirks.
Edit: I think that in the lore mutation quirks are actually called monster type? I don't remember now
But that wouldn't explain y as he was losing ofa, the time he could stay transformed diminished. Wouldn't this detail alone prove that the transformation is connected to ofa, not a his body.
A comment to this would take too long. But if All Might were to transform AFTER losing the embers in OFA then that would prove the transformation isn’t correlated with OFA..
There are 3 different occasions he did this.
1) When deku talked to All Might before the hero raid of Overhaul. (It was whenAll Might told him about Nighteye seeing his future dying)
2) recently in the Anime when All Might met stain. He transformed bc stain didn’t believe he was All Might (even though he actually knew he was All Might)
3) he transformed RIGHT AFTER LOSING ALL THE EMBERS in OFA, in his fight with AFO. (When he has his fist in the air and everyone cheered.)
This proves (to me at least lol) that the transformation is separate thing from OFA!
The way I see it… the reason he couldn’t keep it long enough it because it’s a TRANSFORMATION that required energy to keep it up! And he doesn’t have a lot of energy to hold face due to the damages he got from AFO. (Which could be why he said he could only hold it for 3 hours a day in ep.1/ch. 1 of MHA)
Thanks for the comment
@@MangaVation yea, that actually makes sense. Completely forgot he's transformed before even without ofa
@@MangaVation while I agree that the transformation is...strange, I'm pretty sure it's just OFA simply reverting his body back to a state in which he could use it, until the time limit ran out and he was forced out of it because of the injuries. There's 2 things I use as evidence for this,
1) All Might never demonstrated the ability to "transform" before recieving OFA. After recieving it, he spent a considerable amount of time bulking up (until his normal state of being was his "muscle form"). However, after the injury, he started dwindling away, but every time he uses OFA, his body temporarily reverts back to a state at which OFA can be sustained, at the cost of further damaging the body and thus reducing it's longevity. The reason why this is important is for your speculation of OFA "powering" the transformation (and not being the source of it) to be correct, All Might should either be able to use OFA without the "muscle form" (which he can't) or he should demonstrate the ability to go into his muscle form prior to receiving OFA (even temporarily, as seen after he loses the embers).
2) According to the author's notes on both the manga and the extra materials, the reason Deku doesn't have a "transformation" when he uses the quirk is because he's leaking out the energy he can't use in the form of "lightning" as opposed to All Might, who, because of his proficiency with OFA and natural athleticism, can contain all of his power within his body. This is why in the final bout against AFO, his body produces yellow lightning when he assumed muscle form on just his arm, because his body is simply too damaged to contain it anymore. This, added to the fact that the official explanation for why All Might can still "transform" after OFA was given is because he still has the charred remains of the quirk that can't really do anything. Through OFA, his body is already genetically altered from a "quirkless" state to a "quirked" state, if that makes sense. If I'm not wrong, this was in the Ultra Analysis booklet.
But either way, it's an interesting take on which we might never get a solid answer. Nice to see the MHA community thriving!
Considering the fact that Toshinori was able to use One for All from the beginning I just figured his All Might form was his natural form. While his Small Might form was cause by his injury from the All for One fight.
Bro you just spit 🔥 the whole track. No arguments here you are on point!
You are a genius not just for this theory but also be able to explain in a way that makes sense.
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The shigaraki quirk mutation is probably more complicated but I think you're on the right track.
There should be limitations to the eraser quirk, it doesn't work on body modifications but it does affect its ability to modify. I believe
Ahhh! That's right, during the part where they were at the rescue training place (ch 14 in the manga) Eraser Head says he can't erase heteromorphic quirks, only "operative or transformative types."
...though I would maybe call what was happening with Shigaraki "transformative", LOL
I read some of the comments (NOT ALL). I think he's spot on. He says, "After my fight with AFO, I'm unable to maintain that form for more than a couple hours." Then continues to transform after giving OFA to Deku. Also, it's stated that he was able to wield OFA at max power from day one. So the comment of 40 years means nothing. Good job man, we need more free thinkers
But then, why doesn't he transform to his All might losing after losing his quirk? When he loses his quirk, he can barely transform.
Pretty sure it's because the quirk allows him to do that
Like he said, it’s like sucking in your stomach (or however he phrased it) and when we do that we can only maintain it for so long. And since All Might’s body is all battered, it makes sense that it probably hurts him to hold that form for long periods of time when he doesn’t have the strength of One For All anymore to help. This is just my guess and no need to mind my comment since I’m a year late to the party lol
Because his body is designed to be perfect for holding quirks but if he has no quirk it doesn’t to appear he is like morbidly injurred, he still could btw but for literal seconds before he began gushing blood.
Just say you didn’t watch the show because he does still transform after he loses all for one which means he has a quirk
The candle shaking the whole time scared me
This also supports Gigantomacias body. It was said in the show that his body itself is able to hold multiple quirks without becoming a nomu. And if that was because of a quirk, AFO would've copied it to make more super soldiers.
actually has a theory on what another youtuber said, basically OFA the quirk itself records the user's peak body whenever they turn the quirk on, some of you might say that during the usj attack when all might fought a nomu he said himself that his grown weaker and that 6 punches would've been enough to destroy the nomu, but what we often forget is that OFA is slowly leaving all might's body, and not only that but the injury from when eh fought AFO was also why he couldn't release his strongest punches.
I genuinely agree with this.
I remember reading an MHA fic that headcanoned that quirkless people could still have tiny, trace levels of quirk factors in their body, just not enough to manifest a quirk. Suggesting that Izuku had both fire and lightning quirk factors(Fire from his father, lightning as abberant/from his mother) and that All Might had gigantification quirk factors. Inheriting mutations and not having any other powers, as you put forward, certainly isn't a mutually exclusive possibility either.
There is one more type of quirk that was missed which also brings the singularity theory into question and that is the child having neither parent’s like Eri. She is effectively a mutation which means it’s possible for quirks to evolve at a more rapid rate.
that candle was holdin on for dear life xD
There might also be the argument that mutation quirks do not get affected. As many mutants in MHA say they don't have a special ability they just look different. for example. froppy does not lose any of her abilities that are associated with her body when she is being looked at in class by Eraser. It seems like quirks that do not need to be activated do not follow the same rules and might not affect compatibility but that it's built on the body as is. So all for 1 might just have given Allmight a negative quirk that interferes with his regular mutation.
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Good thought! There's nothing essentially tying a mutation to a quirk, as notable by not every character with a quirk having a mutation. Perhaps what we assumed were mutation "quirks" are simply human adaptation.
I want to add something in this that, all might uses one for all , store power to maintain muscle form by using he power like filling it with power of one for all or simple air ,etc to
SMALL MIGHT OMG. I've never heard this one before and I just love it 8D
I really like how you explained this instead of just saying
"Well actually AllMight DID have a quirk!"
This definitely makes more sense then that sucking your gut in excuse, his body doesn’t add up. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was an early stage for his body to cope with OFA and pass it on to be more stable for regular people.
It’s like he is activating muscles and growing bigger and when he in small might form is just him shrinking his muscles down till he is skinny
1:35 Bro really pulled a Dav Pilkey. "Before I can tell you that story, I'll have to tell you this story."
2:05 There's a fourth option, quirkless
Its basically Mother Quirk, Father Quirk, Mixed Quirk, New Quirk Based off of Parents, Completely unrelated new quirk, or Quirkless
(yes there are six)
There's also a chance that Tokoyami also has a Bird head mutation quirk, having both the parents' quirks rather than evolving
All Might also can't use his muscle form anymore (or he won't) because he no longer has One for All, you ain't seen him transform after AM vs AFO
We know that All Might is only able to use the Raw Power of OFA cultivated from the passing on of the predecessors, and he further cultivates and adapts until he can control the power so well makes him able to freely channel the energy through his whole/partial of his body, such energy control and channeling has become his base Quirk which gives him super strength.
No matter if he's originally muscular (when he was younger) or skinny (current), before a fight starts, I'm sure he makes the OFA raw power surge through his body.
During the previous fight with AFO, besides damaging All Might's body, I believe AFO had used some kind of cell destroying quirk to All Might as well. Now he can't even build up his body like a normal person by working out and eating well anymore, he only can bulk up with OFA power surging. In other words, he should've died after that fight with AFO, it's the raw power of OFA keeping him alive because he physically and mentally can adapt to the power so well that, it unconsciously keeps his life force running.
I usually don't comment but, I saw all the 6 season in the last weeks and the 6th in these 3 days, explaining all the facts about the ofa to understanding it, and all the info about the death of the predecessor it's said that: allmight its a user of the ofa from 40 years, making him the longer user etcetera no spoiler we know why, so he is like 50/60 now and talking about his parents i see is a hard thing, but some flashback talking about the allmight origin would be fine, I'm scared the anime is finishing and we get an 8th season maybe. You theory are really good, I never saw this way, i think you're right! And yes you hyped me/blown my mind ahha
It would be good information to know who his parents were. Considering the fact that on the wiki it says they are deceased. But it would be very vital information to know what their quirks were and such. So I agree that the parents play a role in his forms.
The possibility of the cup spilling had me stressing
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What if almights quirk was literally to just have a muscle form
keep up the good work brother! this was fun
another character who has visibly evolved past their quirk is Mina from 1-A, her quirk is acid but her body is not the same as normal humans. a smaller example of genetic structures evolving with quirks, is Toya Todoroki, who like his mom, has more of a resistance to the cold due to having the ice quirk follow their bloodline, however Toya got the wrong quirk and we can visibly see the effects it has on his more cold body
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Your theory makes sense. With the constant change in human evolution with quirks just like one for all with each passing of the user and the abilities stock piling the body of a regular human could in theory evolve as well to accommodate with the changes of what others are going through. Survival of the fittest. So when he got one for all he used it exceptionally well. Although never unlocking other quirks like deku he’s managed to teach deku and deku has evolved even further than all might
By referring to toshinori's body gran torino was referring to him being quirkless. Ujiko didn't say that the body wasn't evolving he said it wasn't evolving fast enough to keep up with quirks.
If its like sucking in a gut to get skinnier, he probably tenses and folds his muscles in on themselves to get smaller then lets them loose when it's plus ultra time. Would explain the toll on his body and coughing up blood etc.
I think partially it is because OFA is an emitter quirk, and I think operates by storing mass as energy that the user can draw on. The energy gains physical weight when they draw it from the vestige world and all might was using a very fine tune control to put specific percentages in different muscles to get a “pump” effect like in body building, which is why he weighed less than his prime form but had greater overall size physique wise. Seems similar to how the Paths and Titans work, and it’s clear that Toshi had the most fine tune control over the power without realizing what he was doing specifically to explain to Deku
Theres another aspect of quirks kids can be born with called Mutation types, not to be confused with Mutant type quirks
Mutation quirks are essentially when a kid is born with a quirk that doesn't resemble either of their parents quirk or even another family member quirk and is completely unique to them
While rare theres only been one case of this (that i can currently think of) that was confirmed and that's Eri's quirk
What about shigaraki
@@Sapphire_eclipse Was never confirmed so I didn't count him. Between not knowing either of his parent's quirks (more importantly on his mother's side) there's a sliver of a chance the quirk was just given to him by AFO.
Either way we have no idea if he was another case of a Mutation
They did say there are four different types of quirks, emitter quirks, transformation quirks, accumulation quirks and mutation quirks. Mutation quiks are like Ojiro's tail, Tokoyami's bird face etc
Aizawa's quirk doesn't work on mutation quirks because they are purly physical and are part of the persons actual genetic form. He can't camcel them out. They are considered a true quick though and wouldn't be considered quirkless
I agree heavily with this theory just because of how things actually work in real life. Although, yes, we don’t have something so “immense” like quirks or powers but look at how the human body evolves. Though out history, we’ve seen how the human body adjusts to what people need at a certain period of time. Yes, human evolution might not be as fast as quirk evolution (if we compare to irl) but it’s probably gonna catch up sooner or later.
This has already been stated in the series though. With Endavor saying “Shoto needs to have natural resilience to both the heat and cold” which means they know about the physical evolution
Yup that shigaraki point sold me on this theory. I had forgotten he was doing all that but it technically wasn’t a quirk. So y’a all might might be doing the same just to a lesser extent
Wish ya would’ve recorded your reaction to the latest chapter.
100% correct I had this theory a while back my friends all thought I was crazy snd reaching thank you for confirming my theory! 💯💯
I'm so ready for you to knock over the candle or the drink. Lol.
I got the impression that All Might bulking up is just an application of OFA that's handy for his specific circumstances that wouldn't really be relevant to anyone else that's had it so far. For why he's so good with it, it's because he's had it from a young age and lacking a quirk makes his body more flexible to adapting to a new quirk than someone with a quirk receiving another one. He's had it the longest out of anyone and is a physical learner, which helped him intuit OFA more quickly and with less injury than Izuku. Izuku's difficulties are a combination of being a different kind of learner, AM's inexperience with teaching and the large gap between AM's first experience with OFA and Izuku's after all the time it had to accumulate power in between.
Also, physical traits and quirk classifications are more complicated than just having a bird head being unrelated to Dark Shadow. Emitter type quirks sometimes come with mutation traits that don't really do much to the emitter quirk and therefore aren't really mentioned, which is what's going on with Koda and Tokoyami. It's still part of their quirks but not really relevant to the registration of their abilities. Uraraka has little finger pads on her hands that activate her quirk, Shigaraki's skin problems are implied to be a side effect of her quirk, etc. It's directly related to having a quirk, though sometimes you get people like Dabi whose body is adapted to one parent's quirk while inheriting the other's and having problems due to it. The info given about people's quirks tend to be simplification for documentation and limited by how people understood the quirk at the time the paperwork was filed. Izuku registered OF as 'Superpower' and wrote something about strength augmentation. Sometimes quirks change or people's understanding of its function and application change enough that they need to update the paperwork to be more accurate.
I would take AFO's doctor's info with a pretty heavy grain of salt given his ethics and some of the stuff he says is straight up eugenics. I'm hoping BNHA doesn't operate on that view of evolution but you never really know for sure until the series wraps up when this kind of thing happens.
All might was that big naturally but he shrunk down after his injury from afo but ofa remembers how he’s supposed to be which is why when he flexes he changes back to how ofa originally remembers him
@@Young_Wrath In terms of mechanics, describing it as just flexing muscles isn't very helpful. Mechanically, it could be comparable in that using a quirk is a metaphorical superpower equivalent to flexing physical muscles but it's not literally what it is.
OFA's stored energy seems to be capable of restoring optimal strength and mass into muscles when channeled by someone who's trained with it extensively the same way it augments natural physical strength. The strength augmentation comes from stored physical potential rather than a strength augmentation quirk getting thrown into the mix, after all.
I never really liked describing it as him shrinking down since it reminds me of how the anime did him dirty on that. In the manga, it's pretty clear that he's just as tall in both forms because his skeletal structure remains unaffected and the difference is purely in muscle mass and posture.
We see with other quirks that intense use or augmentation from things like trigger can cause physical changes where there were none before or new ones as the quirk becomes stronger, so it makes sense that a quirk whose primary function is to stockpile physical potential would be able to be applied to temporarily restore previous muscle mass to use it more safely.
Damn this is a really thought out theory which makes a lot of sense.
Not sure if it was obvious or not but my initial impression of all might was that his muscle form was just a result of him working his body out, (so it was his normal body) and it was only after his battle with OFA that he had to flex to temporarily get back to that size to house OFA although at a time limit since you can’t flex forever.
My own theory was debunked after reading mha vigilantes because there was a chapter pre ofa fight, where all might was in a normal body (not skinny one) and was called onto the scene so he transformed into his muscle form. I know that it was before his fall because OFA did not have a mask on yet. This proves that all might always had a seperate muscle form and it had nothing to do with his injury, all the injury did was limit the power and time usage.
We only saw all might and deku use ofa and they look completely different in case of all might he gets buff and deku's case it looks like "lightning" is going through his body.
So I think every user (we didn't really see any other user use ofa) has a different look for ofa.
@@vnagfightergaming3665 I agree, although I think the premise of this video and somewhat mine was that all might muscle form may be a seperate thing from OFA. It’s just something he can physically do in his own. After all all might went into his muscle form a few times as a joke after passing OFA to deku.
Only thing I would add as a counterpoint is erasures quirk doesn’t effect mutation type quirks
with that thiory it would mean that it is very likely that the one who had one for all before him gave it to him in order to make sure all for one didnt get ahold of him
0:31 the Candle is going to fall
I saved it 😂
Just goes to show how truly special AM was.