BREEDING SPIRIT'S PARENTS! Spirit Stallion Of The Cimarron - Rival Stars Horse Racing | Pinehaven
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Can we breed the real Spirit from Esperanza and Strider, the two legendary horses who made the Spirit of The West? Or have I broken Rival Stars and wasted gold?
(Spirit Stallion of The Cimarron is my favourite movie of all time!)
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I’m pretty sure he was captured by the Calvary soon before Spirit was born. That’s what I know. My theory is that after he was captured he was sold to another ranch or Calvary in another area. Or after he was captured he got loose, and just couldn’t find his way back to Esparanza and Spirit.
Edit: Thanks for the likes!
That would explain why his mother was so nervous for spirit to leave to investigate the campfire that first night
Same
Yes But maby it was shot bicise he didnt wona to ride him like spirit almowst was
@@LynRaeArt Yeah that is a really good theory. I feel the same way.
@@adrinette5030 Yeah that’s another good one.
I recently sat and read all 4 Spirit books so the info is quite fresh with me, and I thought I'd share a bit! Esperanza's mother is a buckskin mare named Alma, and Strider's parents are Cedar, a Grulla stallion and an unnamed jet black mare. Then Rain's side of the family is a bit longer. The first book has Bonita (Rain's grandmother) as a gray mare, whose mother was a palomino pinto and her father was a thoroughbred racehorse. Her mate is a palomino stallion named Rafael. Their foal is Sierra, a chestnut mare and Rain's mother. Rain's father is a black and white pinto stallion. His parents are unknown.
Regarding Strider's whereabouts, it's implied in the movie and in the book that Esperanza has been leading the herd since Spirit was born. So we're led to believe that he may have passed away some time before Spirit's birth. My personal headcanon (because my universe's Strider and Esperanza have another foal after Spirit) is that he got sick sometime before Spirit grew up and left the herd to prevent the disease from spreading to them. I mainly think so because the herd in the movie seemed quite happy and restful, and would not have been without the protection of a stallion.
I highly recommend reading the books by Katherine Duey! They're fun, quick reads as each book is not more than 150 pages, and really expand on the lore of the Spirit universe.
Thanks for a whole book that I ain’t reading ( not trying to be mean btw )
There is an official 1st story draft for Spirit by Dreamworks known as "Schindler's Horse" that got scrapped. (in the end he died in the mines) I like to think That's what happen to his dad instead of Spirit. Small closure and it fits...(with a google search that say's he died in captivity) sad as it is...plus official story line from the company. v
I'm not sure if I will ever get a new Pegasus
just curious, where were you able to find the books?
Bonita's story was my favorite of the series
“He left to get the milk” 😭💀⚰️
he never came backkkkk!!!!!!
Noooo 😭😭😭 not the milk
Noooooo not the milk
Too go with the cookies
@Unicornguardian He left to get the carrots
The colors you were wondering about with Reveng is that he was a dark chestnut with a single cream dilution which made him lighten into a nice golden color. The cream color showed for dilution is not the color the coat will be, just that it will be lighter. (There is a light and darker version of both the gray and the cream dilute, the difference between the golden colors and the light palominos)
Edit: the golden color you keep getting is actually just a dark palomino! (Because it is a chestnut with one cream dilute)
that's such a good explanation!
the variations between bays, palominos and chestnuts can be explained by the genes the parents have, which could (!) be:
Strider:
E/e (one gene. would it be E/E, all offspring would be bays. the E gene makes a horse with no other genes black. with an A gene, it makes a bay)
a/a (Strider is a black horse, with no other genes)
Esperanza:
e/e (no black gene, palominos are based on a chestnut)
A/A (two genes, so both parents would've had one or two copies. as i already mentioned, palominos are based on chestnuts and a chestnut comes with only an A gene. two copies mean, that every offspring will have one copy of the gene. that explains, why there was no black)
CR/n (one copy of the gene. CR/CR makes an cremello. one copy makes the chestnut offspring a palomino.)
also, she could have an SW1 gene, because of the socks and the huge blaze, but i wouldn't consider it
Spirit would have these:
E/e
A/a
CR/n
buckskins are bays with one copy of a cream gene
SO! It is completely possible (of course, duh), like Comedy showed us, but Abigail was just not lucky xD
hope it was not that complicated, just wanted to add a few gene facts
@@mjwithmustard5050 red basée horse are not automatically _A, A is not even linked to red bases. E is black, e is red. A is determining the way black pigments will be expressed. E with a gives black, E with A gives bay. A red horse is ee, and the agouti status doesn’t affect red pigments. So, esperanza could be ee/aa, ee/Aa or ee/AA. But as Spirit is bay based, one of his parents has passed it. It can’t be his dad, otherwise he wouldn’t be black but bay. So the A has to come from Esperanza, wich is then ee/Aa or ee/AA
He died
If you think "like a horse", Strider was most likely cast out of the herd as Spirit took over.
As in nature there is only one lead stallion in the herd and for that being Spirit there would be no room for his dad~
(also thinking that those 2 foals in his herd are his, cause there is no other stallion around)
My theorie.
I think that theory wouldn't work, since we never see Spirit's dad. His dad has never been present, even before Spirit was born.
Yea that wouldn't work. He would have been present until at least Spirit was older. And the movie isn't actually accurate in how these things are. Also, if the 2 foals were Spirits dads, then he still would have been present within the herd. But seeing as it was only Spirit in the herd, if you want to get technical and if the movie is accurate with herds and stuff, the 2 foals would have been Spirits
Nice theory! In the original script there was actually a scene were Spirit fights another Stallion (instead of the cougar fight)
But sadly the directors wanted that all horses are friends... So I really like your theory ^^
I love this theroy
It’s usually the colt that is kicked out of the heard when they are old enough to be on their own
In horse herds it's typically the Lead Mare who takes the lead while the Lead Male trails behind driving the herd forward and picking up any stragglers. He guards their back while trusting his lead mare to guide the rest of the herd
Hawk was honestly my fav one - so unique!
I’m in the middle of reading the books. I’m in the final one now, I will tell what happens to Strider when I get there. Also. Esperanza’s mother was a buckskin with “a pretty face” named Alma, Strider’s father was a grullo with no markings, and his mother was a black horse with some markings. The book isn’t exactly specific as to what kinds of markings. Esperanza’s dad is entirely unknown, but they’re all mustangs so far as I can tell.
Guys…..it doesn’t say!!!! It only confirms that Strider and Esperanza find the valley we know in the movies, but there’s no tale as to how they gathered an entire herd, or what happened to Strider or why he’s not present for his son. The books are also not strangers to addressing death, so I’m very very upset!
@@xdreamxmakerx hmm I haven’t read the books but if they’re no strangers to talking about death then I have to assume they intentionally wanted to leave it up to the readers interpretation.
WAIT! There’s books!? Ohmygosh, I HAVE to read them!!
Pretty horses!
WAIT… THERE ARE BOOKS ABOUT SPIRIT??!!!
HOW HAVE I KNOWN THIS!!!
I gotta look this up now. I’ve wondered for ages about where people came up with Spirit’s Dad and what he looked like!
I always kinda thought at first that Strider was beaten by Spirit and left the herd as they do in the wild. However later on I figured that it's more likely that he died at some point as it wasn't common for man to show up often given how Spirit never saw Man in his life until they began to settle close to his Homeland.
(Then again given how Spirit's mom reacted to him being caught, it could be possible that Man did show up at some point and captured before he was born)
Also fun fact: In the deleted scenes Spirit was meant to fight another "Mystery" Stallion to protect his leadership over the herd instead of the Mountain Lion scene as a way to show how life was like for a Lead Stallion.
Hawk is so pretty!! 🥺
“Ok let’s see..”
*silence*
“WOAH..WOAH!!”
Edit: did anyone see strider almost float out of the screen view at 17:14?
It was so funny 😅
Lol yes 😂
Saw it
I had to go back and watch that part, I did see it when you said something and OMG that’s so funny 😂😂
I think he either passed or got captured. I'm leaning towards he died because in the movie, Spirit says "Like my father before me".
The horses not having a dad is more relatable than anything has ever been in a horse game
The Pedigree seems to be the new norm from everyone I have seen play Rival Stars and my own games all custom creations have parents now when they are bred but the father always seems to disappear on the family tree.
I think strider was one of the male horses pulling the train when spirit broke free out of the train and started letting them free. He was one of the ones looking at spirit I think. Just my theory!
We know Esperanza's mom. It was buckskin mare named Alma. She was a bit darker than Spirit, I think. And that means her dad, Spirit's grandfather, must been chestnut.
Sorry for bad English, I'm from Poland xD
@@UNIWOLF.2438 There was an old Book Series. We know a lot of Rein's Family, History of Esperanza and Strider and way more xD Movie is just based on that books.
@@aleksiur341 the books are inspired by the spirit movie, not other way around!
@@Flickersss Seriously?! I was pretty sure that the books were first, damn ;-;
Strider I believe has a bit of his story told in the books! Definitely recommend reading ezperanza and then rains mums book. As for the new cartoon, that spirit is spirit and rains colt as it was shown in like a dream sequence where you see him as a colt playing with his parents rain and spirit
I'm sorry, we proper spirit fans do not claim "riding free spirit" as their son, and his name should not be spirit. DreamWorks ruined the possibility of a second movie, and changed it to kids only. Very disappointing the way disney, DreamWorks, DC, all the big film corps are going about things.
Spirit and rains colt is named sasparilla. At least from the breyer models.
The Spirit (with a blaze)'s lineage is he is the son of Spirit and Rain, grandson of Esparanza and Strider. A small bit of his background is that he was born in the wild and grew up with Spirit and Rain. Then one day when he was racing with his friends against a train, he met a girl who changed his life. They became best friends and Spirit Jr. let her ride him. But he still was a wild horse so he never let rope near him and always had to check on his herd every now and then, along with sleeping with them.
Ok is it just me but at 17:15 you can see the dad float away to the top of the screen near the name cloud
BAHAHA I JUST NOTICED THATT
Yep very odd lol
🤣🤣🤣
I think strider was captured by people before spirit was born and that's why we don't see him in the movie
You should do a video breeding Hawk ahaha he's gorgeous it would be fun :)
Yes, he left to get the milk and never returned.
Okay but on a a serious note, I think Strider died trying to protect the herd.
My theory is that he was captured by the Calvary and was broken and became their own horse. In the scene where spirit is captured, you see a horse being rode that looks likes strider. I’m pretty sure, I haven’t watched the movie in awhile, that horse helped spirit let the horses out but stayed behind. Now crossing over to the real world, the son would challenge the dad into a fight for the mares and the herd. So my guess is maybe Strider had another son that beat him, but than that son passed taking care of the herd. That’s when Esperanza took over the herd. Obviously strider would know spirit since it would be his scent and none elses. So really, strider couldn’t have passed because there are foals in the movie that other mares probably brother from strider. I’m sure one of those mares birthed a colt. The colt bear strider, and strider went on his own. Him becoming on his own, he let his defenses down which causing him to get caught. ❤loved dawn! That’s my theory
12:45
Well that came outta nowhere, but he is so unique, so pretty, and so much… pattern.
I looked it up and he was captured and died shortly after cause he wasn't used to it witch is sad.
11:49 I was thinking flames because of its face mark!!
Spirits dad went to get the milk.
In the movie, when spirit first gets brought to the army camp, one of the marching horses stops and stares at him, messing up the march, I personally believe this is his father, who was most likely captured when spirit was young since spirit doesn’t recognize said horse in the movie
this is brilliant! I love Fiction and Hawk. My favorite is Spades! can you please do more spirit and rain breeding together? I love this video!
‘I’m going to call this horse Revenge.’
*Proceeds to name him Reveng*
It's amazing how talented you are when it comes to Rival Stars! Also, how do you have motivation to keep playing? I am level 13 and I often lose motivation to keep playing Story Quests. Love you!!! ❤️
Dawn and hawk is my favorite out of breeding spirits mom and dad the video is great I wish i could be someone like you love this video you are amazing I'm a fan
Palominos are sorrels with a cream gene so the red with the dilution is actually correct. Which I’m impressed with. You also can have many shades of palominos as you can a sorrel or a bay. Very impressed on how the game functions regarding real genetics in horses.
At 17:14 they did have a dad but his picture flew off the screen if you watch closely 😂 he wants no part in child raising and we saw his abandonment in action
His death was mentioned at the beginning of the movie! Hope this helps for your answer
Spirit is a buckskin which is a bay with 1 copy of cream
All the "orange" horses that you have the red with 1 cream are palomino
Dad being black with cream dilution is technically a smokey black
I really enjoyed this video! 😊 Think I'll go play rivals stars now 😃
I started playing it and it’s literally the best thing ever for me, my dad caught me playing it and now I’m known as “The Horse Lover” in the family 😂😂
The ones that are not spirit are the one in his herd 😂😂
17:15 Did anyone see Strider’s picture on the pedigree just fly, or is this just me? 😂🤣😂
I saw it thought I was the only one lol
I saw it too lol it got me giggling
I just commented about it then went searching for anyone else who saw it lol
dude I thought the exact same thing!
@@KTDbarrelracing same here
Comedy was the closest! too bad we didn’t had another one like that!
I love Reveng🤣 telling it’s name is so funny😆 I really liked Dawn too! I always thought Strider died but I will probably read the book to be sure of what happened, I am curious now!☺️
I remember reading about Strider and it said that he got captured then died in captivity because apparently he couldn’t handle it, he must’ve been caught before Spirit was born and then Esperanza took over the herd then Spirit after her
"he left to get the milk" got me cracking up like crazy
I love when she put 'He left to get the milk' it was so hilarious 😂😆
I think he died
Out of all the Beautiful foals you breed, Hawk has to be my favourite! I really enjoy his patterns and I think the name Hawk fits right into him, I hope you can breed and use him in races!! Thanks for doing this lovely vid!
Well... since spirit appears to be the new lead stallion he probably kicked his father out of the heard to have all the mares. Could be that one of his two other small foals will grow up to kick him out too
Also if your curious, there’s books related to spirit that go to the backstory of strider and Esperanza
I have recently discovered your channel, I'm love with them, I love horses and videogames.
I'd support a part 2 of this once Rival Stars possibly isn't broken! Would be interesting to see if results change at all.
I LIKED WHEN SHE Said ''HE left to go get milk''🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
11:01 is too funny! I keep replaying that! Abigail: uh- why is it called "reveng" I called my horse "reveng?!?!?" 12:47 OMG THAT HORSE IS SOOO PRETTY!! 13:47 abigail: that's like a cheeeestnut? 14:44 abigail: cheese coat
Edit: ok this is enough edits for now
Heya! I loved the video with the strange but somewhat understandable coat possibilities, I just got one question: Where do I find the 'create your own horse' on Rival stars on android? Since it doesn't open the same way as on computer. If you or anyone else can respond to my question, much appreciated!!
Here's a brief description of strider: The black horse in Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron is Spirit's dad, named Strider. He doesn't actually appear in the movie, as he died before the storyline begins. Spirit briefly mentions him when he grows up and takes over as the leader of the herd.
Eighty years credit will pack a hard like spirit😂😂😅
Abigail:orange coat
Chestnut:am i a joke to you?
I love hawk,s and dawns patterns
a lot of people get a LITTLE too realistic and say Spirit drove his father out, but as a kid my head cannon was always Spirit got into the same situation as his father only "Strider" didn't get his freedom and fought for a different form of freedom being a war horse thats where spirit got his spirit from😊
17:16 - the dad just flew away 🤣
17:14 I can't breathe it just flew away 🤣😂🤣
Hawk and Could were my fav bc of the partners i love them. Thanks for your content!
Hawk was definitely my favorite, he was the most unique
“And the dilution is ... HUH?” 🤣🤣🤣
Im sorry but the Spirit Riding Free references were hilarious
Spirits dad went to get milk and never came back
Lol🤣🤣
He died
He is missing here as well 🙈 .... lmao...brilliant :) 👍
Thank you for belly laugh when your old horse got his revenge.
The way on the markings she went around the hole thing but She only had to go back on😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yess another star rivals video :)
For the markings on Esperenza you could have used the one on 4:37
On the last breeding I kinda saw a black horse logo fly off the screen.
That is very weird
Hawk and Dawn are my two favorites. I would love to have them myself lol
"he left to get the milk" - Abigail
'EZPARANZA already has the milk' - ME
I honestly think this is pretty realistic bc wild horses do yearly breeding so it would make sense if Spirit had past siblings, especially if Strider continued to be the dominant stallion of the herd
if you ever do spirit and rain; Rain's mother was Sierra, and her father was unnamed, just reffered to as a 'strange stallion' that was a gray Tobiano paint - whilist the Sierra was a Chestnut Tovero - which created the Flaxen Chesetnut Tobiano Rain
Video idea: Made 1 beautiful stallion with a crazy pattern then do the same but make 3 crazy looking mares and breed them
in the wild stallions are typically kicked out of the herd and have there own herd (lead stsllions are hardly seen)
Finally!!! I have been waiting for it 💖💖💖 thx 🙏
Hawk hands down is a dream looking horse and I'd love to see a horse like that in real life
HELLO! I used to watch ur vids last year! I even went to all of ur Live streams!
I saw the dad fly away 😂 when you checked the family tree 😂 something was flying away 😂 no joke
Me: *sees the text saying "He went to get milk"*
Also me: *instantly screams "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"*
If the foals have a dark muzzle it means it won’t be palomino, and Reveng looks like a chestnut with a palomino dilution 👍
Fiction as a colt looks kinda like the colt we have at my barn! His name is Dublin and his nicknames are ELM (Evil Little Marshmallow), Dubs, Dubsies, and Biter lol, he’s only a few months old (around 3 now) and he can already line up a jump perfectly, do flying lead changes, and land like a champ, so we think we’ll try and train him to jump since he’s got such raw talent.
Hi Abigail! I was just wondering if you could do a tribute to Lester Piggott who has sadly passed. He was an icon in the racing industry and many have followed in his footsteps. I love your videos 🐴💕❤
Esperanza’s mother was a buckskin like spirit but she had a broad blaze on her face. That’s what I remember. Once you look up the books perhaps you could do every other pair I think it’s just 2 more actually but I could be wrong
Strider died trying to defend Esperanza from another stallion which was a grey stallion. At the time Esperanza was pregnant with Spirit. So if you still want to know more about the family tree look it up on the google :):)
I thought of the name Cloud the moment I saw that last horse. When you also said the name Cloud I was pleasantly surprised.
Hawk was my fav love your vids :)
I loved all of the horses there all so cute and pretty
I think rival stars decided to get Abigail a Taste of her own medicine after selling a billon horses 😂
Also unless you already know this but you can put multiple horses on the market at once then just buy them at ounce just my re stalking the market.
In the movie, Spirit says “Like my father before me,” that could mean Strider’s dead but who knows
I'm sure someone has already said this. But Spirit is a Dunskin. Which means he has the Dun and Cream gene. The parents have to visibly display these genes for it to be passed down, as both are incomplete dominant genes, not recessive. He gets the cream gene from his mother who is a Palomino. However Spirit's father would have had to carry the Dun gene for Spirit to be a Dunskin. However this does not match up, because Strider is a black stallion. As Dun is an incomplete dominant trait, Strider would have had to be a visible Dun for spirit to be a Dun. So if Strider had a base black coat and the dun gene, he would be what is know as a Grullo. Maybe I'm taking this too seriously, it is a movie.
Also, Palomino is a Chestnut/Red base with a Cream dilution.
She should breed Dawn and Hawk ❤️🐎🔥
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@@westerneventer842 they're related... o.o
All these horses are gorgeous
I think during the time skip of Spirit growing up (according to canon horse herds) Spirit fought off his father, Strider, in order to earn his role in the herd as normal everyday herds in the wild
"What color is that? "
"OrAnGe?? "
Spirit mentions him when he grows into a full adult, though the manner in which he is mentioned seems to suggest Strider is deceased.
Let’s make the ‘spirit’ from lucky, Spirit’s 3rd cousin 😂
omg hawk is so beautiful-
hope i can breed one like them soon
I think strider got captured by the colonel which then he escaped and I think he still roaming out there searching for his family❤❤❤
The genetics in this game utterly baffle me haha, but at least they're getting closer with passing on palomino dilution genes on a chestnut base coat.