I am 63 years old...I started playing in 2006, until BFA. Just got DF, 3 months ago...and love it. Dragonflying is AWESOME!!! I'm totally solo player...And the graphics are 👍. Love it.
I am 56 and am seriously thinking of coming back. I need a new computer though. I was always a solo player cuz very few wanted to give me the tome of day. I could never get enough gold to buy a good maunt and it was crazy seeing people with UBER amounts of $$. What do ya think lesmar?
@@gib59er56 I had to buy a new comp, (just to play WOW and...FLIGHT SIM)...my old one could not load either... The funny this is...when I'm playing LFR, I have to turn down graphics because it is just too much!!! Nothing wrong with soloing, look on-line and you will see all a solo player can do. I mostly like Raiding LFR. I have my own guild with all my toons, (11) with (3) 70's My fav is BM hunter, Frost DK, and Feral Druid...Just do what you like, thats what I do. FOR THE HORDE!
@@Jammer2727 Far be it from me to suggest...but, get the best you can afford. Considerations, I looked at the minimum to play and bought one that far exceeded it. I have an XPS and have zero issues...only that the graphics are toooo much sometimes in raids....I literally turn it down to zero. It helps.
It's important to note WoW is starting to cater more to solo players. In the next patch, you can run Dragonflight dungeons by yourself with npc companions. In the next expansion, there is "endgame" content with Delves which can be ran with 1-5 players and an npc companion to tag along.
Important to note that the dungeon runs with a group of NPCs only applies to “normal” difficulty dungeons. So only the easiest dungeons can be played this way and subsequently doesn’t drop the highest level gear. It’s still a neat feature tho I hope they keep adapting it over time.
Can't wait! I was a hard core raider during vanilla through Lich King, but no time for that now so having a FF14 style npc dungeon system is going to be awesome!
I have no problem with them broadening accessibility so long as it doesn't take away from anything else. Allowing someone to run a dungeon with NPCs or by themselves doesn't mean that I'm prevented from scaling the difficulty and/or running with my friends.
As a new player, I was glad to hear this. No one wants to help the fng. The game has become way too bloated, and trying to figure out how to progress is overwhelming. All these different currencies for different things. Ridiculous. I was a long time player when Destiny 2 experienced the same problem. I remember thinking, "I can't imagine a new player trying to jump in now with how bloated this game has become."
Same i loved to play wow switched to FF around 8 years ago and since then i play WoW on and off and love that it gets added. It will make it so much easier for people to enjoy Dungeon content as casuals and will open up for more players. I know for example people who play almost only for themself and maybe touched a dungeon once in 5 years but with that npc system they will definetly go in and enjoy them @@hammerofscience534
Im a brand new player and have been having a great time. People are friendly, made a couple friends and people who took time to genuinely teach me things about the game. Been a lot of fun just exploring and slowly but surely learning the game.
@@Nightstalker314 oh absolutely no hate in my original comment, just wanted to put it there since that was another pretty big addition to WoW in Dragonflight. A full new role.
im looking at getting into it in the next couple weeks, havent played since legion. heard dragonflight is really good. How does the support spec go? what role does it fill in raids and mythics, can they pull their wieght with dps etc
@@GamingJokait’s broken and a must pick in all forms of pve content. It was a massive mistake adding it, it’s been nerfed several times and is still a must have in raids/m+
To hear you dismiss the story of WoW through Wrath of the Lich King - a literal genre-defining storyline that made this franchise timeless during an era where it existed amongst a sea of strong competition - really encapsulates a lot about what I hate so much about modern MMOs and its players.
Honestly that's what finally made me stop playing, I was so in love with the lore back then having come to WoW from playing Warcraft 1, 2, and 3 and then WoW from vanilla in 2004 all the way through to WotLK, the expacs that came after were okay gameplay-wise (more or less) but the lore was just missing, the writing just didn't grab me, and each expac only got lazier and less interesting, they couldn't top wrath, it was just too good. I was so invested in that storyline that I held on all the way through to legion hoping that the next expac would be able to hold a candle to WotLK and I stopped playing when I realised I was just waiting for something that would never come. Came back for Shadowlands and it only solidified it for me, those days were done. I'm thinking of coming back just for old time's sake. But my hopes to recapture even a glimpse of the magic of those days are sadly low.
@@IronHorse1854 I'm not touching retail with a stick... I'm a new player who was too young to play back in the day and I want to give it a go. I'll be playing vanilla classic and cataclysm classic, but if they keep bringing in newer expacs to "classic" I'll either stick to vanilla or look for a wrath private server...
Crazy to think you're about to hit 1 Million subscribers! I've been watching since your first zergling rush video, and you've definitely always been one of my inspirations in content creation. I've been coming back to WoW too recently and have been having a ton of fun with it! Fun to see that we're interested in the same games once again. Can't wait for all the new things WoW has around the corner.
Idk, i quit around mid-cata and came back a month ago, and idk, somehow the game feels dead (classic wotlk). In 30 lvls i met a handfull of people, probably able to count encounters on 2 Hands; whats Ur expierence? & is there more life in retail?
04:37 battle to the death part couldn't get anymore hilarious with that mage putting his hands in the air at curtain moments before losing the duel lol
I'm enjoying WoW more now than I have since Legion. I still think they need to open every instance up to every player (especially while leveling) but the game is in great shape over all.
Legion was the last time i really enjoyed the game. What exactly do you enjoy about DF? The game is light years away from being in great shape. Worst expansion after SL. Even WOD wasn't this bad
The talent system is.. phenomenal. I am constantly tweaking and theory crafting. Yes, you can easily just copy/paste the "best" specs from Icyveins, but so much more fun to actually learn your talents and class and tweak the heck out of them. I have specs saved for Solo, Group, PvP, Raid, Dungeon, Mythic, AoE, Single Target... such a greatly improved system. Paladin is also amazing right now. All specs feel and look good! Holy is the most fun it's been in years.
I would totally still play it I think, were it not for the extremely toxic player base. What you're showing here is the leveling experience which would entertain just about anyone. The issues rear its head in end game when you have to play in groups.
Tell me about it, I jumped ship to FFXIV a few years ago and the community in that game is so... reasonable. I remember being taken aback when I was doing a shit job of healing in a dungeon (cause I was a noob) and instead of "KICK THIS USELESS NOOB UNINSTALL GAME IMMEDIATELY IDIOT" I got people saying "That's okay, you got this, let us know if you need any help, we'll do smaller pulls if we gotta, no worries :)"
I have been on and off a lot in the past with WoW but Dragonflight had managed to keep me entertained for a long while now! I'm still playing and having a blast. Love or hate it, it's still one of the best mmos you can be playing currently
@@sirbonobo3907 same here. It was great for a minute. Played for 2 or 3 weeks and then I was out. Found myself logging in and just flying around, not wanting to do anything else.
Yes current DF is actually fun. The current M+ dungeons are great, Raid is good as well and most classes are fun to play. SoD seems interesting too but, im not really a classic player, but gonna check it out for sure.
Dragonflight has been a strange expansion. It's the best retail WoW has been since Legion(and I would argue it's even better than Legion since Legion's systems were terribly grindy and not casual friendly), and yet the reception of DF has been terrible. WoW players truly don't know what they want from the game anymore, even when the game is good they can't stop whining.
@@Hooga89 Most of the “game is good” of DF is blizz just undoing poor decisions made over the last decade. So if by “good” you mean “they stopped stepping on my balls” ya sure it’s great. But in terms of actual new improvements that aren’t just reverting things, not much has changed of note. There’s dragon riding……and that’s about it. Idk about you, but I expect more than that from Blizzard. And you can moan about how people are just whining or whatever, but that doesn’t accomplish anything. If people are dissatisfied, then that’s just how it is and childishly saying crap like “people don’t know what they want” won’t change that sentiment.
@@Knifehands__ Dragonflight is a good expansion, people just hate the purple and pink dragons. If Shadowlands had the same systems as DF people would say Shadowlands was the best expansion in 5 years.
@jay-ti4bt I've been playing like 2 weeks max. Everything is new to me. I'm not a 20 year player who has seen everything multiple times. If it's too much of the same for you then hop into a different game and get what you're looking for. Variety is the spice of life 🤷♂️
These discoveries remind of Star Wars Galaxies - and how each class had a different unknown random series of events/achievements which would unlock the jedi-sub class for their character.
i started wow a few months back and it has been fun! initially I started with retail, which was fun but people arent as social, so i dumped it and tried classic and....WOW, everyone is helpful and talking, a completely diffrent game! if your new coming into the game, I say go with classic first
What server do you play on for Classic? I've been thinking of getting back into the game after a few years break, and I always love when a server has a good, social community.
Came back 2 weeks ago to HC after 17 years away and i cant stop playing. Have died a dozen times but i keep playing. Love HC more games need it. Also me and a friends who havent played together in years are having a blast.
It is sad that you don't know wow's older lore it actually used to be some of the deepest game lore in recent history, only things I know of that are any where near as lore rich are table top games like 40k and DnD. Final Fantasy probably also would get a vote from me too, it is a 30+ year old series. There are a few historians on wow that go from begining to end. For me why I was killing the boss was as important and actually doing it, made you feel more invested and part of it all. I still like that feeling though knowing the bosses crimes or story. Like Illidan for example was imprisoned for war crimes he committed against his people during the war with the Burning Legion (he was a night elf at one point) and for creating a fount of power (the demon hunter by infusing those of elven blood with the blood of demons). For those crimes he was hunted down along with his army and put on trial by the Night Elf Wardens and sentencted to eternal imprisionment (along with his followers). This prision sentence was commuted in Legion when the Burning Legion attacked in full force. That info minus the legion stuff really made killing Illidan important, also Illidan was one of my favorite "villains" because he isn't all bad, and becomes the hero again. Anyway I do hope one day when you are bored and have down time you look at some of the older lore.
Agreed, the lore was so important to me that I was and still am Horde loyal and only play Horde characters. In 20 years I've never played an Alliance character, it makes me feel more personally invested in my factions struggles in the lore. I know quite a few people do this as well, they roll only Horde or Alliance, as though supporting a sports team. Most of my friends are Horde only too, only a handful play both factions. No other MMO has that, and it's made an attractive way to play purely because the lore is so rich. I think it's a behaviour more common among WoW players who played back in the day, when the writing and world were far more rich and important to the experience, it was so easy to get invested and pulled into the world and the faction struggle back then because the writing was so good at supporting it. Those who played Warcraft before WoW even came out (Warcraft 2 was one of the first PC games I played back in the day, still have my copy in its big box) remember when Warcraft was a huge and interesting world to get into. New players sadly miss out on that because they just gloss past the lore, and I can hardly blame them, Blizzard's writing is no where near as engaging and interesting as it once was, just like the company itself. Not everybody does this of course, lots of people played both sides to experience more of the content, but for some like myself the faction loyalty is an attractive aspect of the game.
@@IronHorse1854 Horde are based. Horde are conservatives and real. Alliance are slimey and liberal. Can't trust them. Can't trust anyone. I only play the Forsaken (Undead).
Goodness. If I was still in the same place I was back then, I would love to play that discoveries one. Unfortunately, I just got too addicted to it. Instead, I do different hobbies now. Glad to see Force is still doing videos.
Yea no. Been playing classic , tons of people everywhere , people helping each other , role playing , you travel the world it feels alive, feels like an adventure. Tried retail it i coulnd get passed lvl 20. Didnt meet a single soul , everything is fragmented and convoluted , the game hold your hand and force you into an island where you will level until almost max , Nobody in chat , NOBODY in the world questing , people i saw are legit muted. tons of side systems that feels like an actual mobile game, Everything feels meaningless , you xp fast , you travel fast , you get gear so fast , gold isnt a problem , every zone scales and the world feels fake ,you can xp anywhere. It all feel more of like instanced solo rpg more than anything.i was amazed how different it was to the wow i know. Even the main quest is fragmented between all timelines , it just break immersion so strongly. It just feels like a smokescreen of a game. I hated it.
I've never played wow for longer than 6 months since wow classic era, TBC, WotlK, etc.... But here i am, 9 months into Wotlk classic and still enjoying it everyday!
As a completely new player who started about a week ago, I really like the game! Long have I been in a search for a interesting and good MMO, after I had to quit ESO and WoW seems to fill that void. EDIT: I play both, Classic and Retail though more Retail.
@@forest_hobo I think that’s because you really have no perspective on wow in it’s prime so of course it’s acceptable to you🤷♂️ retail wow has been changed and reworked a hundred times now and is nowhere near as good as the game was at its height. Too many convoluted systems in place now.
@@levithirsk5447 yeah I think so too. And I totally get why so many long time players have left the game as they have seen all of its best days and its worst days and I guess had I been playing from the very first I'd feel the same way too.
My take on what would make classic WoW perfect is quite simple. TLDR: Make TBC work on classic world without the new area(outland) - Rebalance all the classic clasess, bring some lf the skills from TBC if it needs to acomplish the goal. For example classic Paladin tank could not taunt, so the solution would be to add a skill. All classes should end up being viable. Some for PVP some for PVE. -Limit only to classic world, that means no Outland or Northland. It means to restructure the whole world, how many, and where are the mobs are placed. It's important because the smaller the world the more interaction between players would happen. It's probably would not be easy, but spliting communities between expansion lands, leaves the world empty and boring. In TBC once player reached lvl 60, he essenntially was removed from the world. Players between 1-59 are unlikely to meet those players, which means less interaction in general. -adjust the professions. My personal opinion is that classic proffessions were very limited in what you could create. I think expanding from TBC into. Classic would be the right way to go. -Like in hardcore there should be incentive for players to play in parties, especially randoms. That way people interact and might form connections. This is not a rocket science, that's what made vannila work in the first place. Constant player interaction.
For season of discovery I'm turning off chat and never using wowhead. I can't explain to those that weren't there day one how fun it is to play when no one knows shit. Its going to be great!
I have returned to retail after classic. Honestly for the first time i appreciate the design choices in WoW. The end game is engaging and exacly what I would want out of the game. A sense of progression while playing the class tbat feels best and trying to optimize dps while doing mechanics. The rotations feels fun and engaging always. Unlike those in FFXIV where its all about memorizing a long rotation and long list of mechanics.
I'm not going to say FFXIV endgame raids are the most dynamic and engaging content bits I've ever seen, but it's ages ahead of anything going on in WOW. If you like the game better that's great. But comparing a Honda to a BMW and saying the Honda is better cuz you say so, is some next level government grade copium.
@@godofm3tal1 story and glamour aside, what is FFXIV better at? It's leveling experience is tedious even after ARR content. Classes are very scripted with 0 room for trying out different playstyles, the most incentive things you can do in a class in FFXIV is to choose DH over CRIT. Brilliant. End game scene in FFXIV has been following the same template since HW. 4 savage fights, 1 raid you can do while being asleep, and 1 ultimate fight every now and then. It's not enough to fill a season. Once you are done with savage and current ultimate you got nothing but playing old ultimates and farming glamour/mounts. WoW is the opposite of all of the above. Mythic raids lasts as a challenge for much longer, the m+ dungeon runs and key pushing is brilliant way to keep players engaged and seeking better gear, drops etc. The gear upgrade is much more complete here as opposed to FFXIV where you got one upgrade and that's it. I have played FFXIV since 1.0 btw, so I am not bullshiting you here, and got no bias to defend wow whatsoever, but it is a much more complete game in the aspects that are gameplay related.
@@godofm3tal1 I think I get what you're saying, maybe, but... I'd choose a Honda NSX over any BMW, except maybe an E30. Shit, tbh I'd choose a 90s Honda Accord over most non-M series BMWs, even those are cooler than most common BMWs. Mid-range BMWs are mostly kinda shitty tbh, BMWs prestige comes from what they put out in their high end models. If I were after an affordable-ish new car and I could choose only Honda or BMW I wouldn't even look at BMWs.
I'm an older player--I have slower reflexes and memory than when I was younger--and I still have hard feelings about being kicked off pick-up groups on dungeon runs in WOW. Is somebody in our group less able? Throw him out so we can get somebody better. After trying the other major MMOs, I have settled on Guild Wars 2. The player base in GW2 seems more mature, sympathetic, and helpful than the player base in WOW, and the game seems more nuanced and modern.
Depends highly on the content . In Raid there are the same assholes . Doing low tier fractals are fine but high tier Fractals there are also the elitist and crack speedrunners
@@Undecided_ GW2 is my Classic WOW game. I love the game and I love the community, but yeah it's all friendly faces and nice people until you try to do any challenging content. Heck early days I got abused by catmander because I didn't know the Meta(it was my first meta and it's a fucking meta ffs, even if I was perfect, 1 person hardly makes a difference when the whole map is doing the meta. Anyways, After that I realised that it's the content that attracts a specific type of player, so for any mmorpg if you want to do the hard content and not be abused, joing a guild with mature players(not older just mature) will make any mmorpg feel like it has a great community. In last 2 years I played Lost Ark, NW, GW2, FF14, ESO and now WOW and the only game where the community itself is toxic is lost Ark. GW2, FF14, ESO have all had lovely guilds that I joined, that do everything from fun community nights to high end raiding. They were all full of lovely people looking for a safe space to enjoy their games. Lost Ark is the only game where i never found that. I ended up with a static group that disbanded and I never managed to get another group before quitting. I haven't found my home in WOW yet, but I only played for few days, I'm sure with time I will find a guild that isn't bunch of insecure manchildren.
Crazy how I've always wanted a game like WoW (except maybe fully first person lol) and just now discovered it forreal, like i knew about it for so long but never really KNEW about it, couldn't afford it anyway. I hope it's still worth getting now maybe, and doesn't get shut down anytime soon :( I also hope its a full fledged game with freedom and all that, and different ways you can go like skyrim a bit or runescape, and you dont have to pay bank to actually PLAY it after already buying it or whatever. New world is a good second place if the player count gets better again, since you dont have to pay extra for actual dungeons. Im new to WoW so i'm not really sure how it all works.
It exists it's just that most people play games for views instead of making friends and socializing on there which for me was the main reason I played it so long.
They got too greedy, jacked with the lore, sold to Activision and then fired most of the talent. The icing on this shitcake is Kotick's toxic reign over WoW.
Id say as someone who spent 4 years sinking my time into wow, no you shouldnt get into it. If its your only game sure but its just not worth getting so sweaty try hard to do anything endgame
I can attest. 20 years ago ...brings back so many memories...Leeeeeeroooooy. hahahahaha miss those days of where we all came together and formed 40 man raids that lasted several hours of pure skill and fun.
Started playing solo and this is the best experience I've had in the past decade. 20+ Mythics and heroic raiding are pugable within two weeks of starting.
I started playing with my 2 kids, our setup is a bit ok I guess, oldest plays on a great desk pc, myself I play on a Omen laptop and my younger kid plays on the Rog Ally, works great for all of us, we've reached lvl 20 and now I'm wondering if it's worth to pay to play... Great time thus far that much I know
what did they do to Hpala that was so bad exactly? long as i can be a Shockadin, i dont give a fudge.@@devnull1013 Holy was gonna get nerfed after being in the god comp.
I played WoW until BFA and then stopped, the story and gameplay is pretty ok until you reach the "endgame", everyday doing the same dailys, the one dungeon, the one weekly raid, the same 3 old raids to get the mounts like clockwork ... at that time it felt more like a job where I had to pay to do it ^^"
My mom taught me to play this game, and it has been one of my favorites for a few years now. I love this game and the history, exploring and it’s fun!!
It's not about being hard, it's about the experience. Retail and vanilla are vastly different You want a challenge, that is fine. Does it affect you negatively if people enjoy season of discovery ?@@giovannix108
I think Force is one of the best gaming content creators on youtube and he never asks for likes and subs, even gives a buddy and shoutout and to sub, but not to himself. He deserves a million subscribers.
I see the haters have arrive as usual under every wow post who probably only played for like a week. Aside from some narrative issues, Dragonflight has been pretty good gameplay wise and many ppl are truly enjoying it. You can just tell from the amount of ppl in-game and in communities. Don't really care about classic though, not my cup of tea.
WoW is the most new player friendly it'll ever be imo. You get everything just by leveling. No more need for trainers which was super annoying to me but now I'm having fun questing and running dungeons as a priest. Retail is in a good spot rn.
I first started playing WoW in 2014/15, after getting addicted to Hearthstone. I haven’t played since Legion, but I’ve been feeling like I should start up again since I have a functioning computer now 😊
If you wanna try the vanilla WoW experience to see if it's for you, Turtle WoW is a free to play private server. It's very well populated, has a hardcore mode and tonnes of extra quests and content.
16:40 I haven't played Dragonflight but i believe they added a 3rd spec to Drakthir so it is not just 2 as it was on launch. Devastation, Preservation and then they added Augmentation later on 😅
Theres a totally optional questline about the Blue Dragonflight that is seriously one of the best questlines WoW has ever done. Overall the story has been okay
@@Wotanson56 the main story through the zones was good. Zaralek cavern with Fyrak being a distraction and getting corrupted was okay. Albeit they didnt talk about a lot of obvious things to talk about like the whole void chamber with giant chains, so meh. Emerald dream was interesting, but a little unfulfilling in the final raid cinematic. But theres more story coming too. The blue flight side quest was amazing. Baines quest was awesome(i think). So yeah, overall the story had been okay id say
not everybody takes the story/lore that seriously, dude, tbh i thought that the story was fine until we got past 10.1, then the campaign goes to shit after that, devolving into that raid finale which was stupid.@@Wotanson56
I just built my first pc never had one back in high school family couldnt afford it. I always was curious about WoW now at 34 ill finally be able to dive in.
Sadly , that’s not what makes wow great. What makes wow great is the open world feeling and community side of it that made it really feel like a world. Sadly that does not exist anymore. So take this guys comment with a grain of salt please.
Played WoW on and off since release, most recently quitting halfway through Sanctum when my laptop started randomly overheating and I couldn’t Mythic raid anymore. My issue is that I can’t play it casually. Whenever I return I end up quickly getting sucked into raiding and want to do it at the highest level, which was fine during COVID but I can’t make that time or mental effort commitment anymore. Still, it was a very prominent part of my teenage years (as was WC3) and I occasionally get a strong itch to come back or at least check out what’s going on with the game. Season of Discovery sounds pretty fun, always wanted to have healing as a mage.
It's a fact. I have been trying to get into WOW since 2015. I never got to play it as a kid, and by the time I started working I was "too cool" for a stupid MMORPG when I have the bro-iest of the bro-iest games to play(Counter-strike). After I grew out of my teenage phase, I always wanted to play wow, but never had people to do it with. I would keep trying wow and quitting after an hour or two. SOD kept me for a week. I am now giving it another chance, and wow is it so much better now than the last few times I tried. I still haven't decided if I am going to stick to Retail or go to classic/SOD. So far my experience has been that retail is a lot more like what other modern mmos do(a lot of qol stuff, but also a lot of useless systems that are there for complexity only) but they kinda fixed it a bit with the reworks a bit. SOD is very scary because it's all older players, I haven't come across a single player that didn't say (oh yeah I used to play this back in xxxx) and same with Classic. I keep seeing these new players that are playing classic in comments and stuff, but I don't see them in the world? What server are ya'll at wtf lol.
I used to play on a pirated server when I was a kid (couldnt afford monthly subscription) and enjoyed it alot. Tried to play a few years ago with subscription and couldnt enjoy how it is now. Now going for WoW Classic and Hardcore. So happy to come back to what I feel is WoW. For the Horde
The level caps being lowered is the only good decision on SoD other than that nope for me. I wanted level caps, they gave it, the very reason I wanted them was so it would encourage more world PvP.
I played wow religiously until they stopped supporting windows vista. Yes my comp is super old and literally on its last days lol, but it sucked because it still ran the game fine at the time. When I finally get a new one I might start playing again. Which is why I’m watching this
It "was"? I quit WoW a few years ago and wanted to check it out now after this video. So shouldn't i even bother installing it right now because something new comes anyways? Sorry, I'm drunk :D
Was as in the last raid tier has already been released (last major patch will have the 3 already released raids in "fated" rotation like in Shadowlands last patch)@@mexmax1657
I love hardcore mode. It reminds me of when I was a kid and how utterly detrimental a death was playing classic. It makes everyone feel like a substantial Denizen of azeroth and seeing 60s is sorta like... woah nice 👌
Nearly ten years ago (2015), the subject of my end of high school comprehensive exam an article about how WoW ruined a man's career and marriage. He had been addicted to the game, describing himself as someone that had "lost ten years" of his life. That same amount of time has now passed since that exam, and in that time, I've graduated, started a career, changed a career, been in a long-term relationship, moved cities, got married and now I'm starting a family. I was six years old when this game released, and it has effectively outlived two generations coming-of-age. It's unfathomable.
I have played wow in its first 5 years like a madman. I loved just exploring and crafting potions and selling them to people. Then i discovered the auction house, buying low selling high. Then the game broke for me: i got so filthy rich i could buy anything i wanted. People called me a twink, thinking i got all those expensive items from an alt. But i did not. In hindsight... being able to buy anything i wanted ruined it for me. In the past 10 years i have tried to get back into wow, but it just does not grab me anymore. That feel i used to have, just finding ingredients, brewing potions, doing a quest here and there... any advice on how to get that back? I would love to get addicted again 😅
Hey everyone, figure this is a good place to ask this: I've heard good things about DF. I played wow a decent amount up to MoP and didn't really go further than that. If i was to start again, how daunting would it be go catch up to current expansion? When I was younger I LOVED the classic bosses and raids (Onyxia, Azuregos, AQ) but i was never good enough to do them myself. I know you can gear up and go through those classic instances pretty easily now, but is the new content good as well? I feel like MMOs are the one thing you can't stop playing because if you do, so much new content, lvl caps, gear, etc. come out that its overwhelming to anyone just starting out (or returning after many years).
I know I'm really late to this comment, but I just wanted to say that it's really easy to catch-up with leveling and stuff to be able to join endgame things yourself nowadays in Retail WoW. You might've been gone for a while, but once you find a class and spec you like, it won't take anytime at all to get to max level and be able to engage in the endgame content if that's your main desire with the game! The last time I leveled a character in Dragonflight, it literally took me less than a day from start-to-finish.
I would recommend players come and experience Season of Discovery. The classic wow setting is really chill and relaxed, and a good entry into wow. Modern wow (retail) isn't much fun in my opinion.
I just tried wow sod today, but so sad I cannot use AH to buy a bag, and I cannot send mail to my own alt because the bag is full... why they did this? restrict the player to do that since 2004 I never experience this issue until today... not worth playing wow right now wasted subs since I cannot progress, cant even clear my bag or buy some bag..
to anyone that wants to TRY WoW, wait until the next expansion, right now the New Player Experience is flawed after the first 10 levels, this will change when Dragonflight is the NPE going forward in 2024. to anyone wanting to know if now is the time to return to WoW, Chris Metzen said it himself, NOW is the time to come HOME. we're moving on from the nightmare that was Shadowlands and BFA, Dragonflight's story isnt the best, but everything else is GOOD and it's only getting better with each patch, that has been releasing every 6-8 weeks. no MONTHS long dry periods where we dont get so much as a balance update. that nonsense is DONE. borrowed power is DONE. long lists of chores that leave you little time for alts are DONE. Azeroth calls to us, who among you will answer?
DF is better than the past 2 expansions but I still think you should wait for next expansion, there are so many systems going on right now that it would be best to start fresh in a new expansion. Also there is Classic and Wrath to play as well.
That’s nearly a year from now though. If you want to play DF, you should start today. No point in waiting when we still have a long while before next xpac
Before I finish this video, I want to share my experience. I was born in a poor family. I had friends who played WoW when it was new and I always thought it looked cool and fun. 60+ MMO games later and fast forward 19 years later, I still have never played WoW for real. I played on a private server for a bit and it was fun but I fell off fast. I at some point played FFXIV for 10 years straight. With the 10 years long story completed and concluded in the previous expansion, I haven't touched an MMO since then. Which is 2 and a half years now. I have moved country since then too and pinging the server I was playing on gives me 240ms, which is crazy high. So, even if I felt like playing FFXIV anew, extremely casually and while still considering FFXIV to be the number 1 best MMO of all time, playing at 240ms is not an option and I won't pay for WTFast or any similar services as I did when playing Aion NA(before they added an inbuilt routing system). I honestly have almost no interests in WoW until they added the dragon race and oh boy does WoW have FFXIV beat real fucking hard on that. An actual dragon race. No human with some shitty looking scales, no, an actual fucking dragon. That puts my interests really high. Unfortunately the country I live in doesn't have any dedicated servers nearby (one of the biggest countries in the world when it comes to gaming and it's not China, which has dedicated servers). This means my "ms" will still be shit even on WoW but we'll see. I will at least be below 200ms. In any case. With a good job and a good salary and having the benefits of being an adult, I can now actually consider getting into WoW but only really for the lore, story and playing as a fucking dragon.
I haven't played WoW since the launch of Cata. However many years ago that was now. I was a server first progression player in Wrath, ran tons of BGs and some arena, and had a whole lot of achievements and exalted reps. Until Blizzard caught me selling my account and deleted it from existence. Im going to buy a PC in the coming months and get back into the game after so long. Sad that I will have to start as a brand new player, but I'm excited to hop back in. War Within looks very promising. And if it's not, I know I'll enjoy the game regardless.
Thanks for making me feel good about going back to "vanilla wow". The new isn't bad. But I think as an "OG" player, it just didn't feel like "home" for me.
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Me, a 34 year old dude. Trying to spend my time wisely and checking out "Should You Start Playing WoW in 2024?" videos
Hello fellow loser :)
If you decide to play, hope you enjoy it lmao. Have a good one, mate.
Me a 26 year old, absolutely worried about my future and here I am checking out "Should You Start Playing WoW in 2024" 😌
@@AmithyaLiyanage Its my case! :D last time i played 15 year ago... :D and as father right now... looks good to me. start again :D :D
@@AmithyaLiyanagesame 😂
I am 63 years old...I started playing in 2006, until BFA. Just got DF, 3 months ago...and love it. Dragonflying is AWESOME!!! I'm totally solo player...And the graphics are 👍. Love it.
I am 56 and am seriously thinking of coming back. I need a new computer though. I was always a solo player cuz very few wanted to give me the tome of day. I could never get enough gold to buy a good maunt and it was crazy seeing people with UBER amounts of $$. What do ya think lesmar?
@@gib59er56 I had to buy a new comp, (just to play WOW and...FLIGHT SIM)...my old one could not load either... The funny this is...when I'm playing LFR, I have to turn down graphics because it is just too much!!! Nothing wrong with soloing, look on-line and you will see all a solo player can do. I mostly like Raiding LFR. I have my own guild with all my toons, (11) with (3) 70's My fav is BM hunter, Frost DK, and Feral Druid...Just do what you like, thats what I do. FOR THE HORDE!
What type of computer to run it smoothly
@@Jammer2727 Far be it from me to suggest...but, get the best you can afford. Considerations, I looked at the minimum to play and bought one that far exceeded it. I have an XPS and have zero issues...only that the graphics are toooo much sometimes in raids....I literally turn it down to zero. It helps.
@@lesmar234 HORDE ALL THE WAY 1111
It's important to note WoW is starting to cater more to solo players. In the next patch, you can run Dragonflight dungeons by yourself with npc companions. In the next expansion, there is "endgame" content with Delves which can be ran with 1-5 players and an npc companion to tag along.
Important to note that the dungeon runs with a group of NPCs only applies to “normal” difficulty dungeons. So only the easiest dungeons can be played this way and subsequently doesn’t drop the highest level gear. It’s still a neat feature tho I hope they keep adapting it over time.
Can't wait! I was a hard core raider during vanilla through Lich King, but no time for that now so having a FF14 style npc dungeon system is going to be awesome!
I have no problem with them broadening accessibility so long as it doesn't take away from anything else. Allowing someone to run a dungeon with NPCs or by themselves doesn't mean that I'm prevented from scaling the difficulty and/or running with my friends.
As a new player, I was glad to hear this. No one wants to help the fng. The game has become way too bloated, and trying to figure out how to progress is overwhelming. All these different currencies for different things. Ridiculous. I was a long time player when Destiny 2 experienced the same problem. I remember thinking, "I can't imagine a new player trying to jump in now with how bloated this game has become."
Same i loved to play wow switched to FF around 8 years ago and since then i play WoW on and off and love that it gets added. It will make it so much easier for people to enjoy Dungeon content as casuals and will open up for more players. I know for example people who play almost only for themself and maybe touched a dungeon once in 5 years but with that npc system they will definetly go in and enjoy them @@hammerofscience534
Please consider using timestamps as it makes it easier to navigate through what new/players who want to come back are most interested in
Im a brand new player and have been having a great time. People are friendly, made a couple friends and people who took time to genuinely teach me things about the game. Been a lot of fun just exploring and slowly but surely learning the game.
Welcome to Azeroth!
Are you playing retail or wrath classic?
Same. Been playing like 3 months and have two endgame characters now and I’m loving it
@@austinjohnson3977 classic.
@@austinjohnson3977what’s the difference between the retail and classic?
if you die in hardcore you don't loose your character if you want to continue on your character you can move that character to normal classic realms
So you tighten that loose toon up?
Nice way for them to make more money on the character transfer fee.
@@Jammer2727 last i knew it was actually free
@@Slothfosho your right. It’s a free character move just for hardcore.
Just a correction. Evoker has 3 Specs. Healer, DPS and the first ever true Support spec "Augmentation"
Guess he missed that since they implemented that in the middle of the xpac.
Cool
@@Nightstalker314 oh absolutely no hate in my original comment, just wanted to put it there since that was another pretty big addition to WoW in Dragonflight. A full new role.
im looking at getting into it in the next couple weeks, havent played since legion. heard dragonflight is really good. How does the support spec go? what role does it fill in raids and mythics, can they pull their wieght with dps etc
@@GamingJokait’s broken and a must pick in all forms of pve content. It was a massive mistake adding it, it’s been nerfed several times and is still a must have in raids/m+
To hear you dismiss the story of WoW through Wrath of the Lich King - a literal genre-defining storyline that made this franchise timeless during an era where it existed amongst a sea of strong competition - really encapsulates a lot about what I hate so much about modern MMOs and its players.
FRR
Honestly that's what finally made me stop playing, I was so in love with the lore back then having come to WoW from playing Warcraft 1, 2, and 3 and then WoW from vanilla in 2004 all the way through to WotLK, the expacs that came after were okay gameplay-wise (more or less) but the lore was just missing, the writing just didn't grab me, and each expac only got lazier and less interesting, they couldn't top wrath, it was just too good. I was so invested in that storyline that I held on all the way through to legion hoping that the next expac would be able to hold a candle to WotLK and I stopped playing when I realised I was just waiting for something that would never come. Came back for Shadowlands and it only solidified it for me, those days were done.
I'm thinking of coming back just for old time's sake. But my hopes to recapture even a glimpse of the magic of those days are sadly low.
@@IronHorse1854 I'm not touching retail with a stick... I'm a new player who was too young to play back in the day and I want to give it a go. I'll be playing vanilla classic and cataclysm classic, but if they keep bringing in newer expacs to "classic" I'll either stick to vanilla or look for a wrath private server...
Crazy to think you're about to hit 1 Million subscribers! I've been watching since your first zergling rush video, and you've definitely always been one of my inspirations in content creation. I've been coming back to WoW too recently and have been having a ton of fun with it! Fun to see that we're interested in the same games once again. Can't wait for all the new things WoW has around the corner.
More subscribers than blizz now.
I just made a druid lvl 30 now and im having a blast taking my time rediscovering the world after 10 years, can't wait fto get to the raids.
Dude I’m thinking about it
Been about 15 years for me, drood life 😎
Idk, i quit around mid-cata and came back a month ago, and idk, somehow the game feels dead (classic wotlk). In 30 lvls i met a handfull of people, probably able to count encounters on 2 Hands; whats Ur expierence? & is there more life in retail?
This weekend I’m going in again. Hardcore!
@@wudiniwudiini7781play full server
The bit about people jumping in to help was my favorite part. Thats pretty cool.
04:37 battle to the death part couldn't get anymore hilarious with that mage putting his hands in the air at curtain moments before losing the duel lol
I'm enjoying WoW more now than I have since Legion. I still think they need to open every instance up to every player (especially while leveling) but the game is in great shape over all.
Legion was the last time i really enjoyed the game. What exactly do you enjoy about DF? The game is light years away from being in great shape. Worst expansion after SL. Even WOD wasn't this bad
Having never played WoW, or really cared for it, I've been ever more curious about it since Dragonflight, which is fun to think about.
Especially after house of the dragon in air fights
I really hope you enjoy your time with the game if you decide to join! :D
The talent system is.. phenomenal. I am constantly tweaking and theory crafting. Yes, you can easily just copy/paste the "best" specs from Icyveins, but so much more fun to actually learn your talents and class and tweak the heck out of them. I have specs saved for Solo, Group, PvP, Raid, Dungeon, Mythic, AoE, Single Target... such a greatly improved system. Paladin is also amazing right now. All specs feel and look good! Holy is the most fun it's been in years.
I would totally still play it I think, were it not for the extremely toxic player base. What you're showing here is the leveling experience which would entertain just about anyone. The issues rear its head in end game when you have to play in groups.
MANY WHELPS!!! HANDLE IT!!! THAT"S A MINUS 50 DKP!!
Tell me about it, I jumped ship to FFXIV a few years ago and the community in that game is so... reasonable. I remember being taken aback when I was doing a shit job of healing in a dungeon (cause I was a noob) and instead of "KICK THIS USELESS NOOB UNINSTALL GAME IMMEDIATELY IDIOT" I got people saying "That's okay, you got this, let us know if you need any help, we'll do smaller pulls if we gotta, no worries :)"
@@IronHorse1854 wow players are toxic?
I just bought the expansion for Black Friday sale, game is more fun then ever, I’m having a great time
I have been on and off a lot in the past with WoW but Dragonflight had managed to keep me entertained for a long while now! I'm still playing and having a blast. Love or hate it, it's still one of the best mmos you can be playing currently
Nah its the Same old boring stuff quitted after 1 Month
go back to movie-"gameplay" FF14 and 16 bro, and let others actually PLAY games, not wash dishes while they WATCH games :))))@@sirbonobo3907
@@sirbonobo3907 same here. It was great for a minute. Played for 2 or 3 weeks and then I was out. Found myself logging in and just flying around, not wanting to do anything else.
@@sirbonobo3907 It's not meant for everyone
Yes current DF is actually fun. The current M+ dungeons are great, Raid is good as well and most classes are fun to play. SoD seems interesting too but, im not really a classic player, but gonna check it out for sure.
Dragonflight has been a strange expansion. It's the best retail WoW has been since Legion(and I would argue it's even better than Legion since Legion's systems were terribly grindy and not casual friendly), and yet the reception of DF has been terrible. WoW players truly don't know what they want from the game anymore, even when the game is good they can't stop whining.
@@Hooga89 Most of the “game is good” of DF is blizz just undoing poor decisions made over the last decade. So if by “good” you mean “they stopped stepping on my balls” ya sure it’s great. But in terms of actual new improvements that aren’t just reverting things, not much has changed of note. There’s dragon riding……and that’s about it. Idk about you, but I expect more than that from Blizzard.
And you can moan about how people are just whining or whatever, but that doesn’t accomplish anything. If people are dissatisfied, then that’s just how it is and childishly saying crap like “people don’t know what they want” won’t change that sentiment.
@@omegaxtrigun Sorry but nobody really has any actual criticisms of the game anymore, everything is just "Blizz only cares about money" or "D4 bad".
@@Hooga89 you don't know what you're talking about.
@@Knifehands__ Dragonflight is a good expansion, people just hate the purple and pink dragons. If Shadowlands had the same systems as DF people would say Shadowlands was the best expansion in 5 years.
I just started 2 weeks ago and just hit lvl 70 and working on my item level. having a ton of fun so far!
It's copy paste though how is that fun man
@jay-ti4bt I've been playing like 2 weeks max. Everything is new to me. I'm not a 20 year player who has seen everything multiple times.
If it's too much of the same for you then hop into a different game and get what you're looking for. Variety is the spice of life 🤷♂️
@@kellz9972you still playin? Im about to start it myself :) curious on how your still feelin
The Burning Crusade/Wrath of the Lich King was the golden age of Warcraft
Yessir! 100%
So bad that they didnt let us a locked server in tbc or wrath, I'd be playing rn
TBC was my favourite experience
@@haisse6811 warmane
@@haisse6811 The Server is full of donors because the donors keep it alive. It is completely free. It has to fund itself somehow...
These discoveries remind of Star Wars Galaxies - and how each class had a different unknown random series of events/achievements which would unlock the jedi-sub class for their character.
One of the best MMOs i have ever played... unfortunately SOE totally f*d it up
i started wow a few months back and it has been fun! initially I started with retail, which was fun but people arent as social, so i dumped it and tried classic and....WOW, everyone is helpful and talking, a completely diffrent game! if your new coming into the game, I say go with classic first
What server do you play on for Classic? I've been thinking of getting back into the game after a few years break, and I always love when a server has a good, social community.
I quit at the end of BFA and skipped shadowlands but just got back for the end of DF and I am having a blast once again its pretty solid.
Came back 2 weeks ago to HC after 17 years away and i cant stop playing. Have died a dozen times but i keep playing. Love HC more games need it. Also me and a friends who havent played together in years are having a blast.
What is HC?
@@gaddielrascon825 Hardcore, which means when you die you lose that character. Gives more "meaning" and "suspense" to the game, I suppose.
The other great thing about Hardcore classic is the starting zones are always full of players
It is sad that you don't know wow's older lore it actually used to be some of the deepest game lore in recent history, only things I know of that are any where near as lore rich are table top games like 40k and DnD. Final Fantasy probably also would get a vote from me too, it is a 30+ year old series. There are a few historians on wow that go from begining to end. For me why I was killing the boss was as important and actually doing it, made you feel more invested and part of it all. I still like that feeling though knowing the bosses crimes or story. Like Illidan for example was imprisoned for war crimes he committed against his people during the war with the Burning Legion (he was a night elf at one point) and for creating a fount of power (the demon hunter by infusing those of elven blood with the blood of demons). For those crimes he was hunted down along with his army and put on trial by the Night Elf Wardens and sentencted to eternal imprisionment (along with his followers). This prision sentence was commuted in Legion when the Burning Legion attacked in full force. That info minus the legion stuff really made killing Illidan important, also Illidan was one of my favorite "villains" because he isn't all bad, and becomes the hero again. Anyway I do hope one day when you are bored and have down time you look at some of the older lore.
Agreed, the lore was so important to me that I was and still am Horde loyal and only play Horde characters. In 20 years I've never played an Alliance character, it makes me feel more personally invested in my factions struggles in the lore. I know quite a few people do this as well, they roll only Horde or Alliance, as though supporting a sports team. Most of my friends are Horde only too, only a handful play both factions. No other MMO has that, and it's made an attractive way to play purely because the lore is so rich. I think it's a behaviour more common among WoW players who played back in the day, when the writing and world were far more rich and important to the experience, it was so easy to get invested and pulled into the world and the faction struggle back then because the writing was so good at supporting it. Those who played Warcraft before WoW even came out (Warcraft 2 was one of the first PC games I played back in the day, still have my copy in its big box) remember when Warcraft was a huge and interesting world to get into. New players sadly miss out on that because they just gloss past the lore, and I can hardly blame them, Blizzard's writing is no where near as engaging and interesting as it once was, just like the company itself.
Not everybody does this of course, lots of people played both sides to experience more of the content, but for some like myself the faction loyalty is an attractive aspect of the game.
@@IronHorse1854 Horde are based. Horde are conservatives and real. Alliance are slimey and liberal. Can't trust them. Can't trust anyone. I only play the Forsaken (Undead).
Goodness. If I was still in the same place I was back then, I would love to play that discoveries one. Unfortunately, I just got too addicted to it. Instead, I do different hobbies now.
Glad to see Force is still doing videos.
Should have titled this video "Playing WoW classic in 2024"
Oh yeah, that's what i did a lot too, made bis lvl 19 hunter, 29 warrior 39 druid, 49 shaman, and 59 warlock. Just slayed with them!
Yea no. Been playing classic , tons of people everywhere , people helping each other , role playing , you travel the world it feels alive, feels like an adventure. Tried retail it i coulnd get passed lvl 20. Didnt meet a single soul , everything is fragmented and convoluted , the game hold your hand and force you into an island where you will level until almost max , Nobody in chat , NOBODY in the world questing , people i saw are legit muted. tons of side systems that feels like an actual mobile game, Everything feels meaningless , you xp fast , you travel fast , you get gear so fast , gold isnt a problem , every zone scales and the world feels fake ,you can xp anywhere. It all feel more of like instanced solo rpg more than anything.i was amazed how different it was to the wow i know. Even the main quest is fragmented between all timelines , it just break immersion so strongly. It just feels like a smokescreen of a game. I hated it.
I've never played wow for longer than 6 months since wow classic era, TBC, WotlK, etc.... But here i am, 9 months into Wotlk classic and still enjoying it everyday!
As a completely new player who started about a week ago, I really like the game! Long have I been in a search for a interesting and good MMO, after I had to quit ESO and WoW seems to fill that void.
EDIT: I play both, Classic and Retail though more Retail.
Retail is dog sheet these days
@@levithirsk5447 I wouldn't say so 🤔 atleast for a completely fresh player it has been quite fine imo :)
@@forest_hobo I think that’s because you really have no perspective on wow in it’s prime so of course it’s acceptable to you🤷♂️ retail wow has been changed and reworked a hundred times now and is nowhere near as good as the game was at its height. Too many convoluted systems in place now.
@@levithirsk5447 yeah I think so too. And I totally get why so many long time players have left the game as they have seen all of its best days and its worst days and I guess had I been playing from the very first I'd feel the same way too.
@@forest_hobo to reiterate I’m just sharing my opinion of retail vs classic. I’m glad you are having fun!
My take on what would make classic WoW perfect is quite simple.
TLDR: Make TBC work on classic world without the new area(outland)
- Rebalance all the classic clasess, bring some lf the skills from TBC if it needs to acomplish the goal. For example classic Paladin tank could not taunt, so the solution would be to add a skill. All classes should end up being viable. Some for PVP some for PVE.
-Limit only to classic world, that means no Outland or Northland. It means to restructure the whole world, how many, and where are the mobs are placed. It's important because the smaller the world the more interaction between players would happen. It's probably would not be easy, but spliting communities between expansion lands, leaves the world empty and boring. In TBC once player reached lvl 60, he essenntially was removed from the world. Players between 1-59 are unlikely to meet those players, which means less interaction in general.
-adjust the professions. My personal opinion is that classic proffessions were very limited in what you could create. I think expanding from TBC into. Classic would be the right way to go.
-Like in hardcore there should be incentive for players to play in parties, especially randoms. That way people interact and might form connections.
This is not a rocket science, that's what made vannila work in the first place. Constant player interaction.
For season of discovery I'm turning off chat and never using wowhead. I can't explain to those that weren't there day one how fun it is to play when no one knows shit.
Its going to be great!
I love the game because of its insanely rare items. Always loved hunting for 1 in a million items.
I have returned to retail after classic. Honestly for the first time i appreciate the design choices in WoW. The end game is engaging and exacly what I would want out of the game. A sense of progression while playing the class tbat feels best and trying to optimize dps while doing mechanics. The rotations feels fun and engaging always. Unlike those in FFXIV where its all about memorizing a long rotation and long list of mechanics.
I'm not going to say FFXIV endgame raids are the most dynamic and engaging content bits I've ever seen, but it's ages ahead of anything going on in WOW. If you like the game better that's great. But comparing a Honda to a BMW and saying the Honda is better cuz you say so, is some next level government grade copium.
@@godofm3tal1 story and glamour aside, what is FFXIV better at? It's leveling experience is tedious even after ARR content. Classes are very scripted with 0 room for trying out different playstyles, the most incentive things you can do in a class in FFXIV is to choose DH over CRIT. Brilliant.
End game scene in FFXIV has been following the same template since HW. 4 savage fights, 1 raid you can do while being asleep, and 1 ultimate fight every now and then. It's not enough to fill a season. Once you are done with savage and current ultimate you got nothing but playing old ultimates and farming glamour/mounts.
WoW is the opposite of all of the above. Mythic raids lasts as a challenge for much longer, the m+ dungeon runs and key pushing is brilliant way to keep players engaged and seeking better gear, drops etc. The gear upgrade is much more complete here as opposed to FFXIV where you got one upgrade and that's it.
I have played FFXIV since 1.0 btw, so I am not bullshiting you here, and got no bias to defend wow whatsoever, but it is a much more complete game in the aspects that are gameplay related.
@@godofm3tal1 FFXIV blows
@@godofm3tal1 Honda is more reliable, so it's better in that sense. Honda is cheaper so it's better in that sense. Your comparison makes no sense.
@@godofm3tal1 I think I get what you're saying, maybe, but... I'd choose a Honda NSX over any BMW, except maybe an E30. Shit, tbh I'd choose a 90s Honda Accord over most non-M series BMWs, even those are cooler than most common BMWs. Mid-range BMWs are mostly kinda shitty tbh, BMWs prestige comes from what they put out in their high end models. If I were after an affordable-ish new car and I could choose only Honda or BMW I wouldn't even look at BMWs.
Thought I would check in to see how the game is going after many year and seen then perfect channel to explain. thanks!
I'm an older player--I have slower reflexes and memory than when I was younger--and I still have hard feelings about being kicked off pick-up groups on dungeon runs in WOW. Is somebody in our group less able? Throw him out so we can get somebody better.
After trying the other major MMOs, I have settled on Guild Wars 2. The player base in GW2 seems more mature, sympathetic, and helpful than the player base in WOW, and the game seems more nuanced and modern.
That’s simply not true, GW2 has the same assholes, wow has the same helpful people, depends where you look
Depends highly on the content . In Raid there are the same assholes . Doing low tier fractals are fine but high tier Fractals there are also the elitist and crack speedrunners
That's what social guilds are for.
I’m not sure if this is real. Hope you find your group. Find the game that’s fun for you. PS always push yourself - don’t get into a rut.
@@Undecided_ GW2 is my Classic WOW game. I love the game and I love the community, but yeah it's all friendly faces and nice people until you try to do any challenging content. Heck early days I got abused by catmander because I didn't know the Meta(it was my first meta and it's a fucking meta ffs, even if I was perfect, 1 person hardly makes a difference when the whole map is doing the meta.
Anyways, After that I realised that it's the content that attracts a specific type of player, so for any mmorpg if you want to do the hard content and not be abused, joing a guild with mature players(not older just mature) will make any mmorpg feel like it has a great community.
In last 2 years I played Lost Ark, NW, GW2, FF14, ESO and now WOW and the only game where the community itself is toxic is lost Ark. GW2, FF14, ESO have all had lovely guilds that I joined, that do everything from fun community nights to high end raiding. They were all full of lovely people looking for a safe space to enjoy their games. Lost Ark is the only game where i never found that. I ended up with a static group that disbanded and I never managed to get another group before quitting.
I haven't found my home in WOW yet, but I only played for few days, I'm sure with time I will find a guild that isn't bunch of insecure manchildren.
Crazy how I've always wanted a game like WoW (except maybe fully first person lol) and just now discovered it forreal, like i knew about it for so long but never really KNEW about it, couldn't afford it anyway. I hope it's still worth getting now maybe, and doesn't get shut down anytime soon :( I also hope its a full fledged game with freedom and all that, and different ways you can go like skyrim a bit or runescape, and you dont have to pay bank to actually PLAY it after already buying it or whatever. New world is a good second place if the player count gets better again, since you dont have to pay extra for actual dungeons. Im new to WoW so i'm not really sure how it all works.
There's a reason WoW was such a massive cultural phenomenon. It was an amazing game. That game doesnt exist anymore.
It exists it's just that most people play games for views instead of making friends and socializing on there which for me was the main reason I played it so long.
They got too greedy, jacked with the lore, sold to Activision and then fired most of the talent. The icing on this shitcake is Kotick's toxic reign over WoW.
Lok’tar ogar
Still exist, but for YOU is not fun anymore, don’t generalize your feeling with all other players, that’s on you
@tylersmash7134 so most gamers are streamers as well?
Force Gaming, This is awesome! I subscribed because I want to see more!
Id say as someone who spent 4 years sinking my time into wow, no you shouldnt get into it. If its your only game sure but its just not worth getting so sweaty try hard to do anything endgame
I’ve started playing classic WoW and absolutely in love with it, last time I played was 12 years ago
I can attest. 20 years ago ...brings back so many memories...Leeeeeeroooooy. hahahahaha miss those days of where we all came together and formed 40 man raids that lasted several hours of pure skill and fun.
Good show back then. I installed first
release from CD (still have them) and played 15 years till I finally gave up tried real life leveling.
@@RonaldStear Haha exactly.
Wow classic is great. Very excited to see what SOD brings 🤘🏼
Started playing solo and this is the best experience I've had in the past decade. 20+ Mythics and heroic raiding are pugable within two weeks of starting.
This comment makes me want to play again, I got back when DF started but quit after a couple months, I miss it
I started playing with my 2 kids, our setup is a bit ok I guess, oldest plays on a great desk pc, myself I play on a Omen laptop and my younger kid plays on the Rog Ally, works great for all of us, we've reached lvl 20 and now I'm wondering if it's worth to pay to play... Great time thus far that much I know
DF is amazing and fixed so many issues, it just has no hype. The war within should be a banger and its a great time to start
the Story is it's one glaring issue, but everything else is really good,
I've been maining holy pala since MoP, and really don't like what they did with the 10.1.5 rework.
what did they do to Hpala that was so bad exactly? long as i can be a Shockadin, i dont give a fudge.@@devnull1013 Holy was gonna get nerfed after being in the god comp.
I stopped playing in Cataclysm and I just came back a week ago. A lot has changed but I'm enjoying it.
Is there still classic server?
@Bleaxz6584 i dont play classic wow but I see it as an option
I played WoW until BFA and then stopped, the story and gameplay is pretty ok until you reach the "endgame", everyday doing the same dailys, the one dungeon, the one weekly raid, the same 3 old raids to get the mounts like clockwork ... at that time it felt more like a job where I had to pay to do it ^^"
My mom taught me to play this game, and it has been one of my favorites for a few years now. I love this game and the history, exploring and it’s fun!!
She sounds like a great mom! :D That's awesome. Those are my favorite elements of the game too!
For sure Season Of Discovery is worth a try, vanilla wow is GOLD and with these changes it will be super interesting and fresh !!
can you use current character on it or just new char? i started yesterday and now im confused about it?
@@kryhchomost likely have to start a new character. But just play the one you made for now and enjoy it. Then try Discovery once it launches
@@TerraFilmTV ty man. im enjoying it as a newbie
dude no who even wants to play some old boring xpac only boomer an ppl who bad at retail like classic
It's not about being hard, it's about the experience. Retail and vanilla are vastly different You want a challenge, that is fine.
Does it affect you negatively if people enjoy season of discovery ?@@giovannix108
I actually thought often about starting wow, I never played it. But I really hate the monthly payment method.
I think Force is one of the best gaming content creators on youtube and he never asks for likes and subs, even gives a buddy and shoutout and to sub, but not to himself. He deserves a million subscribers.
I don't think I'll ever really stop playing. I get jaded and stop for months at a time, but I always come back and find things to get excited about.
Are you the vocalist for Tantric?
@@Sanguivore No, but I see why it might look like I am. I suppose we could be brothers.
Yes you should. Dragonflight is really good
I see the haters have arrive as usual under every wow post who probably only played for like a week. Aside from some narrative issues, Dragonflight has been pretty good gameplay wise and many ppl are truly enjoying it. You can just tell from the amount of ppl in-game and in communities. Don't really care about classic though, not my cup of tea.
WoW is the most new player friendly it'll ever be imo. You get everything just by leveling. No more need for trainers which was super annoying to me but now I'm having fun questing and running dungeons as a priest. Retail is in a good spot rn.
actually it'll be at it's best when Dragonflight is the NPE.
I first started playing WoW in 2014/15, after getting addicted to Hearthstone. I haven’t played since Legion, but I’ve been feeling like I should start up again since I have a functioning computer now 😊
If you wanna try the vanilla WoW experience to see if it's for you, Turtle WoW is a free to play private server. It's very well populated, has a hardcore mode and tonnes of extra quests and content.
i just started like 2 weeks ago and I'm loving it
I just started again like two days ago😭
16:40 I haven't played Dragonflight but i believe they added a 3rd spec to Drakthir so it is not just 2 as it was on launch.
Devastation, Preservation and then they added Augmentation later on 😅
Ive never played wow but was considering starting. Really like the dragon race
Theres a totally optional questline about the Blue Dragonflight that is seriously one of the best questlines WoW has ever done. Overall the story has been okay
agreed, not the best, but the side stories are great.
Overall story is okay? Lmao what did you smoke my man?
@@Wotanson56 the main story through the zones was good. Zaralek cavern with Fyrak being a distraction and getting corrupted was okay. Albeit they didnt talk about a lot of obvious things to talk about like the whole void chamber with giant chains, so meh. Emerald dream was interesting, but a little unfulfilling in the final raid cinematic. But theres more story coming too. The blue flight side quest was amazing. Baines quest was awesome(i think). So yeah, overall the story had been okay id say
not everybody takes the story/lore that seriously, dude, tbh i thought that the story was fine until we got past 10.1, then the campaign goes to shit after that, devolving into that raid finale which was stupid.@@Wotanson56
I just built my first pc never had one back in high school family couldnt afford it. I always was curious about WoW now at 34 ill finally be able to dive in.
Yes. Simply yes.
Dragonflight feels like soft relaunch of wow with almost all systems redone to be more time friendly and fun.
Go on guys its FIRE
Sadly , that’s not what makes wow great. What makes wow great is the open world feeling and community side of it that made it really feel like a world. Sadly that does not exist anymore. So take this guys comment with a grain of salt please.
@@BillyTheKidOfficialYT Season of discovery is for you then
@@BillyTheKidOfficialYTas long as there's enough players for free roam pvp
Played WoW on and off since release, most recently quitting halfway through Sanctum when my laptop started randomly overheating and I couldn’t Mythic raid anymore. My issue is that I can’t play it casually. Whenever I return I end up quickly getting sucked into raiding and want to do it at the highest level, which was fine during COVID but I can’t make that time or mental effort commitment anymore. Still, it was a very prominent part of my teenage years (as was WC3) and I occasionally get a strong itch to come back or at least check out what’s going on with the game. Season of Discovery sounds pretty fun, always wanted to have healing as a mage.
WoW is in a great state now and awesome. Just return after many many years absence.
Same here!
It's a fact. I have been trying to get into WOW since 2015. I never got to play it as a kid, and by the time I started working I was "too cool" for a stupid MMORPG when I have the bro-iest of the bro-iest games to play(Counter-strike). After I grew out of my teenage phase, I always wanted to play wow, but never had people to do it with. I would keep trying wow and quitting after an hour or two. SOD kept me for a week.
I am now giving it another chance, and wow is it so much better now than the last few times I tried.
I still haven't decided if I am going to stick to Retail or go to classic/SOD.
So far my experience has been that retail is a lot more like what other modern mmos do(a lot of qol stuff, but also a lot of useless systems that are there for complexity only) but they kinda fixed it a bit with the reworks a bit. SOD is very scary because it's all older players, I haven't come across a single player that didn't say (oh yeah I used to play this back in xxxx) and same with Classic.
I keep seeing these new players that are playing classic in comments and stuff, but I don't see them in the world? What server are ya'll at wtf lol.
I used to play on a pirated server when I was a kid (couldnt afford monthly subscription) and enjoyed it alot. Tried to play a few years ago with subscription and couldnt enjoy how it is now. Now going for WoW Classic and Hardcore. So happy to come back to what I feel is WoW. For the Horde
I came back after a few years and I have been loving it. I wish my old guild wasn't on life support
The Remarkable Life of Ibelin bought me here lol
Season of Discovery will be so fun! Honestly just the banded level caps are enough to make the game fresh and much more approachable
The level caps being lowered is the only good decision on SoD other than that nope for me. I wanted level caps, they gave it, the very reason I wanted them was so it would encourage more world PvP.
I played wow religiously until they stopped supporting windows vista. Yes my comp is super old and literally on its last days lol, but it sucked because it still ran the game fine at the time. When I finally get a new one I might start playing again. Which is why I’m watching this
I’m be honest WoW Dragonflight is one of WoW’s greatest expansions. It was awesome. 👏
It "was"? I quit WoW a few years ago and wanted to check it out now after this video. So shouldn't i even bother installing it right now because something new comes anyways?
Sorry, I'm drunk :D
Was as in the last raid tier has already been released (last major patch will have the 3 already released raids in "fated" rotation like in Shadowlands last patch)@@mexmax1657
Woah a RuneScape ad in the middle of a WoW video?
The future is here and I love it
I love hardcore mode. It reminds me of when I was a kid and how utterly detrimental a death was playing classic. It makes everyone feel like a substantial Denizen of azeroth and seeing 60s is sorta like... woah nice 👌
11:32 ... I knew I would eventually find you, there he is guys ! The Twinker !!!!
Give Blizzard money? Are you insane?!!!
For this same reason i play on private servers
Wait people still care about this?
Why not? The games fun
What’s insane about paying for a good game? lol
It’s a good game rn
Nearly ten years ago (2015), the subject of my end of high school comprehensive exam an article about how WoW ruined a man's career and marriage. He had been addicted to the game, describing himself as someone that had "lost ten years" of his life.
That same amount of time has now passed since that exam, and in that time, I've graduated, started a career, changed a career, been in a long-term relationship, moved cities, got married and now I'm starting a family.
I was six years old when this game released, and it has effectively outlived two generations coming-of-age.
It's unfathomable.
Dragonflight is awesome ❤ you should try it. Can’t wait for The War Within, Midnight and The Last Titan it’s gonna be a lot of fun😅😊
I have played wow in its first 5 years like a madman. I loved just exploring and crafting potions and selling them to people. Then i discovered the auction house, buying low selling high. Then the game broke for me: i got so filthy rich i could buy anything i wanted. People called me a twink, thinking i got all those expensive items from an alt. But i did not. In hindsight... being able to buy anything i wanted ruined it for me. In the past 10 years i have tried to get back into wow, but it just does not grab me anymore. That feel i used to have, just finding ingredients, brewing potions, doing a quest here and there... any advice on how to get that back? I would love to get addicted again 😅
It's beyond time for a new game. Enough is enough.
Coming back for season of discovery has been great, feels like grade 10 again.
WOW is the best mmorpg without a question
Hey everyone, figure this is a good place to ask this: I've heard good things about DF. I played wow a decent amount up to MoP and didn't really go further than that. If i was to start again, how daunting would it be go catch up to current expansion?
When I was younger I LOVED the classic bosses and raids (Onyxia, Azuregos, AQ) but i was never good enough to do them myself.
I know you can gear up and go through those classic instances pretty easily now, but is the new content good as well?
I feel like MMOs are the one thing you can't stop playing because if you do, so much new content, lvl caps, gear, etc. come out that its overwhelming to anyone just starting out (or returning after many years).
I know I'm really late to this comment, but I just wanted to say that it's really easy to catch-up with leveling and stuff to be able to join endgame things yourself nowadays in Retail WoW. You might've been gone for a while, but once you find a class and spec you like, it won't take anytime at all to get to max level and be able to engage in the endgame content if that's your main desire with the game! The last time I leveled a character in Dragonflight, it literally took me less than a day from start-to-finish.
I would recommend players come and experience Season of Discovery. The classic wow setting is really chill and relaxed, and a good entry into wow. Modern wow (retail) isn't much fun in my opinion.
I just tried wow sod today, but so sad I cannot use AH to buy a bag, and I cannot send mail to my own alt because the bag is full... why they did this? restrict the player to do that since 2004 I never experience this issue until today... not worth playing wow right now wasted subs since I cannot progress, cant even clear my bag or buy some bag..
2019 classic release was fun but hardcore classic captures the 2004 community feeling a lot more. Hyped for Season of discovery!
I really want this game but I can’t justify paying monthly for a game I’d rather pay one time price
Really looking forward to profession's in Season of Discovery, crafting epic lvl 25 BiS gear with leatherworking 😎
to anyone that wants to TRY WoW, wait until the next expansion, right now the New Player Experience is flawed after the first 10 levels, this will change when Dragonflight is the NPE going forward in 2024.
to anyone wanting to know if now is the time to return to WoW, Chris Metzen said it himself, NOW is the time to come HOME. we're moving on from the nightmare that was Shadowlands and BFA, Dragonflight's story isnt the best, but everything else is GOOD and it's only getting better with each patch, that has been releasing every 6-8 weeks. no MONTHS long dry periods where we dont get so much as a balance update. that nonsense is DONE. borrowed power is DONE. long lists of chores that leave you little time for alts are DONE. Azeroth calls to us, who among you will answer?
DF is better than the past 2 expansions but I still think you should wait for next expansion, there are so many systems going on right now that it would be best to start fresh in a new expansion. Also there is Classic and Wrath to play as well.
What systems are you talking about?
That’s nearly a year from now though. If you want to play DF, you should start today. No point in waiting when we still have a long while before next xpac
what they mean is endgame gearing systems, there's a lot of catchup in play.@@CyclopsToppingWolverine
I saw this guy comment on a Nixxiom video asking for things that are already in endgame DF, he doesn't play the game or know what he's talking about
@@RicksonGM Please elaborate, haven't said anything like this to my knowledge? You just mad because I hate WoW's current story? Seems that way lol
Before I finish this video, I want to share my experience. I was born in a poor family. I had friends who played WoW when it was new and I always thought it looked cool and fun. 60+ MMO games later and fast forward 19 years later, I still have never played WoW for real. I played on a private server for a bit and it was fun but I fell off fast.
I at some point played FFXIV for 10 years straight. With the 10 years long story completed and concluded in the previous expansion, I haven't touched an MMO since then. Which is 2 and a half years now. I have moved country since then too and pinging the server I was playing on gives me 240ms, which is crazy high.
So, even if I felt like playing FFXIV anew, extremely casually and while still considering FFXIV to be the number 1 best MMO of all time, playing at 240ms is not an option and I won't pay for WTFast or any similar services as I did when playing Aion NA(before they added an inbuilt routing system). I honestly have almost no interests in WoW until they added the dragon race and oh boy does WoW have FFXIV beat real fucking hard on that. An actual dragon race. No human with some shitty looking scales, no, an actual fucking dragon. That puts my interests really high. Unfortunately the country I live in doesn't have any dedicated servers nearby (one of the biggest countries in the world when it comes to gaming and it's not China, which has dedicated servers). This means my "ms" will still be shit even on WoW but we'll see. I will at least be below 200ms.
In any case. With a good job and a good salary and having the benefits of being an adult, I can now actually consider getting into WoW but only really for the lore, story and playing as a fucking dragon.
WoW vid sposored by jagex lol
I haven't played WoW since the launch of Cata. However many years ago that was now. I was a server first progression player in Wrath, ran tons of BGs and some arena, and had a whole lot of achievements and exalted reps. Until Blizzard caught me selling my account and deleted it from existence. Im going to buy a PC in the coming months and get back into the game after so long. Sad that I will have to start as a brand new player, but I'm excited to hop back in. War Within looks very promising. And if it's not, I know I'll enjoy the game regardless.
dragonflight pvp solo shuffle has me playing more wow than ever in my life. and they are adding a solo ranked battlegrounds soon.
No no you shouldnt play WoW.
Should I play WoW?
you should play what makes you happy. duh.
Its still the number 1 mmo. Yes. You should.
Agree. If you have managed to go without playing it up to this point in its lifespan then keep away. It’s trash ran by a trash company.
@@richm298 amazing company with amazing values
Thanks for making me feel good about going back to "vanilla wow". The new isn't bad. But I think as an "OG" player, it just didn't feel like "home" for me.
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