When the playing time is "as long as it takes," the number of people in my gaming group who would play such a game drops dramatically. Looks awesome, but it would never get to the table in my lifetime.
Last recap of the year, and its a biggy. Tainted Grail. Anyway, happy new year to everyone who's watched this year. Have an awesome 2020. From myself and Steph. Kia ora, thank you, see you next year!
@@uaksz555 it depends whether you think you friends will play it or not. I usually would ask mine weather if I got this game they would play it. It also helps if you have heaps of spare time to play this as I found sitting down and playing this game for long periods of time helped by not breaking the pace. I love board games that have multiple choice in play style because it allows you to play to what makes it the most fun for you. Im also thinking about getting this game but have others I need to finish first before I pick up a new one.
I judge weather a game is worth it depending on the amount of time it will take and how much I will enjoy of those hours. There is no point in picking up a big game if you have no interest in playing it alot and you will probably end up moving on to another and its left collecting dust. Just to make clear I have not played it just boards games with similar style of play. Hope this helps as I know what it's like to be on the fence about something. Hope you had a wonderful Christmas and have a happy new year🎄
Thoroughly enjoyed the little we've played of it (tutorial to allow people to judge whether they're keen). Just about to finish off gloomhaven before we dive into this one properly.
The game sounds and looks awesome...but not sure I can get other players to commit to learning and playing which is a shame. I have really enjoyed your reviews this year and the brief appearance of Steph! Have a fab 2020...I'll be watching you next year, and not in a creepy way!
Really enjoying Tainted Grail, although finding it hard once a certain event happens about chapter 3.... Already about to start my 4th attempt at the game. Furthest I've got is chapter 4. It has also got me back into painting miniatures for the first time in many years. All the base game miniatures painted, and the numbers on the metal dials highlighted with white paint. Now starting on the Monsters of Avalon miniatures
You should be running away from the bad thing that shows up. Escaping combat from it only costs 2 energy and a terror, much better than trying to fight it. I'm in chapter 6 and can pretty reliably win against it, but it's not worth the wounds to try most of the time.
@@PickleTheHutt yep. Been trying that. Although when it's sitting right on top of where I need to go that doesn't help either. Anyway, hopefully better luck this time
I used dice in place of the various game timers and drawing a map as you go to track hunting locations and good trade locations along with blocked tile sides and Menhir costs.
My wife & I started this gane 2/3 times soon after it finally arrived, but have yet to finish. We got started on having kids, so our time became far too limited to start playing such a long game (that we kept losing so quickly into the story). We did decide to slightly alter the rules to make it a little more forgiving next time we play because we very much want to experience the story, and both know we will never play it again if we restrict ourselves to the rules as written. Soon, we shall have a gaming table, so we can leave it set up even with kids, and we will take it on again!
Always happy about a new 3MBG review. I understand everybody who is into and enjoys this game. I also understand why it's not something I would enjoy. Not backing it was the right decision for me.
Perfect. As i've said before, i'm not in the business of selling a game to someone. I try to give enough so people can decide if the game is right for them.
@@3MBG It's much appreciated. Of course on KS (generally) things are presented to very much appeal, and with the added exclusives and deadline for the campaign there's certainly pressure - already if you are only mildly interested in a game. It's not a feeling I enjoy. In my opinion campaigns should not be less than 21 days, and maybe offer to late pledge, if only for a limited time. Also it is surprising that at times there is no official gameplay video during a campaign, only afterwards. So figuring out what is something that resonates or what doesn't can be a challenge.
The Grimdark is where this one lost me. The gratuitously sexy sculpts of the female characters already had me a bit iffy, and then some of the story beats I've heard of just sounded unnecessarily edgelord-y: I remember in Rahdo's run-through he mentioned a story event where his choices resulted in a group of nuns being raped and just noped out.
Yep, grimdark is exactly the tone. And I agree, at times it feels excessive. I don't personally mind that kind of content, within reason, but its a massive barrier to a lot of people. I really should have mentioned it in the downsides, but got caught up with my annoyance at the menhirs
It makes me miss the days when Grimdark was the campy, absurd kind that pervades a certain era of Warhammer 40k, honestly. It's disappointing - Awaken Realms have pulled off dark and confronting without crossing the line into edgelord territory before, so I know they can do it. Also looking forward to Etherfields for that reason. Also, I'm now trying to remember if you've reviewed Everdell and what you thought of that magnificent-but-stupid tree ;)
I am so glad you mentioned that scene. I usually go way out of my way to avoid spoilers, but I'm glad I didn't this time. That is a massive Nope for me too. I am by no means a prude, but some things cross the line for a game. It makes it look like us board gamers trivialize such things. Thank you again.
I spent almost $300 on this via its Kickstarter (King's Pledge + Shipping). I still don't have my copy. I'll never back Awakened Realms on KS again, even if I do respect their ambitions. They take way too long to provide the product, and prioritize shipping to reviewers over actual paying backers.
I'm not saying that every reviewer was given a copy. Some high profile reviewers were. I'm glad you actually got your copy. Dude. I'm still waiting on mine...
@@3MBG I screwed myself by choosing 2nd wave shipping, so I could get the game and expansions all at once. However AR has moved the ship date backwards for 2nd wave THREE TIMES at this point. Currently I'm slated to get my copy in September 2020. In reality it may be 2021! Seeing a game you spent $300 on, but still don't have, sitting at a 9 rating on BGG is aggravating. Yeah I'm a bit salty about this situation. I enjoy your videos though. Happy New Decade to you sir.
“it has a solo mode”
oh thank goodness, i don’t have to try and convince everyone in my house to play it with me-
When the playing time is "as long as it takes," the number of people in my gaming group who would play such a game drops dramatically. Looks awesome, but it would never get to the table in my lifetime.
Yep. It's a big barrier, i honestly have no idea how long different groups would take to get through it either. But it would be a while.
It plays great as a solitaire game using two characters. Beor and Maggot made a very effective as a team.
Exactly my crew right there as well Thomas. (which is why they are in the vid)
Think outside the box. One can always set house rules for playing time/winning conditions.
Last recap of the year, and its a biggy. Tainted Grail. Anyway, happy new year to everyone who's watched this year. Have an awesome 2020. From myself and Steph. Kia ora, thank you, see you next year!
Wow this looks really complicated but fun might have to get it. Happy New year and can't wait to see what you have planned next
I am thinking about buying KS version of it but not sure if its worth it.
If you are on the fence, wait a bit. I suspect there are many who will sell it off once they have played it through
@@uaksz555 it depends whether you think you friends will play it or not. I usually would ask mine weather if I got this game they would play it. It also helps if you have heaps of spare time to play this as I found sitting down and playing this game for long periods of time helped by not breaking the pace. I love board games that have multiple choice in play style because it allows you to play to what makes it the most fun for you. Im also thinking about getting this game but have others I need to finish first before I pick up a new one.
I judge weather a game is worth it depending on the amount of time it will take and how much I will enjoy of those hours. There is no point in picking up a big game if you have no interest in playing it alot and you will probably end up moving on to another and its left collecting dust. Just to make clear I have not played it just boards games with similar style of play. Hope this helps as I know what it's like to be on the fence about something. Hope you had a wonderful Christmas and have a happy new year🎄
Thoroughly enjoyed the little we've played of it (tutorial to allow people to judge whether they're keen). Just about to finish off gloomhaven before we dive into this one properly.
My game of 2019, though I only got through the first 4 chapters before the years end. Love it.
Holy shit. Really?
The game sounds and looks awesome...but not sure I can get other players to commit to learning and playing which is a shame. I have really enjoyed your reviews this year and the brief appearance of Steph! Have a fab 2020...I'll be watching you next year, and not in a creepy way!
Would love to see you do some kind of top5 video with portable enough games to travel with!
That's on the cards. Spoiler alert. Tainted Grail will not be on that list
Great review. Tainted Grail has more in common with Fabled Lands (open world) than Fighting Fantasy
Possibly, but i've not played fabled lands.
Love this channel
Really enjoying Tainted Grail, although finding it hard once a certain event happens about chapter 3.... Already about to start my 4th attempt at the game. Furthest I've got is chapter 4. It has also got me back into painting miniatures for the first time in many years. All the base game miniatures painted, and the numbers on the metal dials highlighted with white paint. Now starting on the Monsters of Avalon miniatures
Painting the dial numbers is a solid idea. And yeah, i know the bit you mean. I've only got past there once
@@3MBG Yeah, I've run up against it in two games now, and haven't been able to get "past" it even once, with multiple attempts.
You should be running away from the bad thing that shows up. Escaping combat from it only costs 2 energy and a terror, much better than trying to fight it. I'm in chapter 6 and can pretty reliably win against it, but it's not worth the wounds to try most of the time.
@@PickleTheHutt yep. Been trying that. Although when it's sitting right on top of where I need to go that doesn't help either. Anyway, hopefully better luck this time
This year been pretty good year in boardgaming. Im surprised
It's been a so/so one for me. It's not a 2015 or 2017 where a bunch of "straight to the permanent collection" games came out for me.
I used dice in place of the various game timers and drawing a map as you go to track hunting locations and good trade locations along with blocked tile sides and Menhir costs.
Totally regret not jumping on this when its Kickstarter was active
The pledge manager will only be open to those with a previous pledge level. You'll have to find someone else with a pledge to join.
I like how "Tainted Love" by Soft Cell has a length of 2:43. So yes, I can make a joke. "Did you try 'Tainted Love', in less than 3 minutes?".
I looked for a decent karaoke version for the end of the video, just couldn't find one that didnt suck
@@3MBG I used to play the 9 minute version of "Tainted Love" whenever a club owner would try to underpay me. Nothing makes people fight like that one.
My wife & I started this gane 2/3 times soon after it finally arrived, but have yet to finish. We got started on having kids, so our time became far too limited to start playing such a long game (that we kept losing so quickly into the story). We did decide to slightly alter the rules to make it a little more forgiving next time we play because we very much want to experience the story, and both know we will never play it again if we restrict ourselves to the rules as written. Soon, we shall have a gaming table, so we can leave it set up even with kids, and we will take it on again!
It's a monster, i dont think i got past chapter 6 or so. And I passed on all the latter campaign expansions.
Always happy about a new 3MBG review. I understand everybody who is into and enjoys this game. I also understand why it's not something I would enjoy. Not backing it was the right decision for me.
Perfect. As i've said before, i'm not in the business of selling a game to someone. I try to give enough so people can decide if the game is right for them.
@@3MBG It's much appreciated. Of course on KS (generally) things are presented to very much appeal, and with the added exclusives and deadline for the campaign there's certainly pressure - already if you are only mildly interested in a game. It's not a feeling I enjoy. In my opinion campaigns should not be less than 21 days, and maybe offer to late pledge, if only for a limited time.
Also it is surprising that at times there is no official gameplay video during a campaign, only afterwards. So figuring out what is something that resonates or what doesn't can be a challenge.
I can not wait to cover this game XD
As a KDM fan, its right up your alley i think.
@@3MBG 100% it is - I have it on the way :P
Resist the temptation to eat the delicious looking token I assume.
I want this :(
Thanks for the review. Definitely sounds like it's not a game for us.
The system works! ;)
So get it on steam... Got it
Not the worst idea, will be a bunch cheaper
@@3MBG And you'll save so much space!!
The Grimdark is where this one lost me. The gratuitously sexy sculpts of the female characters already had me a bit iffy, and then some of the story beats I've heard of just sounded unnecessarily edgelord-y: I remember in Rahdo's run-through he mentioned a story event where his choices resulted in a group of nuns being raped and just noped out.
Yep, grimdark is exactly the tone. And I agree, at times it feels excessive. I don't personally mind that kind of content, within reason, but its a massive barrier to a lot of people. I really should have mentioned it in the downsides, but got caught up with my annoyance at the menhirs
It makes me miss the days when Grimdark was the campy, absurd kind that pervades a certain era of Warhammer 40k, honestly. It's disappointing - Awaken Realms have pulled off dark and confronting without crossing the line into edgelord territory before, so I know they can do it. Also looking forward to Etherfields for that reason.
Also, I'm now trying to remember if you've reviewed Everdell and what you thought of that magnificent-but-stupid tree ;)
Hahaha, i kinda like the tree. It gives the game presence. It's not practical, but i dont have to move it every time i have an encounter.
Oh don't get me wrong, I love it to bits. Just need to orient the board correctly so one player isn't stuck peering through the foliage all game!
I am so glad you mentioned that scene. I usually go way out of my way to avoid spoilers, but I'm glad I didn't this time. That is a massive Nope for me too. I am by no means a prude, but some things cross the line for a game. It makes it look like us board gamers trivialize such things. Thank you again.
I spent almost $300 on this via its Kickstarter (King's Pledge + Shipping). I still don't have my copy. I'll never back Awakened Realms on KS again, even if I do respect their ambitions. They take way too long to provide the product, and prioritize shipping to reviewers over actual paying backers.
Dude. I was a paying backer. This isn't a review copy of the game
I'm not saying that every reviewer was given a copy. Some high profile reviewers were. I'm glad you actually got your copy. Dude. I'm still waiting on mine...
@@SolidStateSoul fair. Normally new Zealand gets kickstarter last. We got it early this time
@@3MBG I screwed myself by choosing 2nd wave shipping, so I could get the game and expansions all at once. However AR has moved the ship date backwards for 2nd wave THREE TIMES at this point. Currently I'm slated to get my copy in September 2020. In reality it may be 2021! Seeing a game you spent $300 on, but still don't have, sitting at a 9 rating on BGG is aggravating. Yeah I'm a bit salty about this situation. I enjoy your videos though. Happy New Decade to you sir.
All good, but i've got bad news, those second wave shipping things, based on Nemesis and Lord of Hellas, could be a year from now.
Too bloated for me. Too much work.
Fair, there is an app version coming out as well.
@@3MBG Yeah, honestly might just get that.