If you like this content give a Thumbs up for my sore thumbs(/hands) grinding these combos lol! Probably will try to get back to these sooner than later this time as there is still more stuff I want to go over. And be sure to subscribe to everyone above if you haven't already! (Myself included!)
Honestly most broken usage which you covered is the fact that we can use it to carry opponents on bf to areas where they won’t be able to mixup di using the plat (aka on the middle of bf/small bf)
Yeah exactly what I was thinking! So many applications to make combos less interactable, that one is probably favorite! So hard though, but that might be a good thing lol!
LOL TYVM! Yeah and cancelling Crouch Dash with N,DB is the fastest way to go to crouch from CD since the second cancel input being DB is also the start of crouch. Yeah you need to go Full Crouch first as well before doing a DGF. Iirc correctly it is 6 frames of DB then you can DGF. I think. You might also be able to shimmy up and down after Full Crouch and then DGF. I'll test all this all out later.
Great video explaining I have a couple questions, will it come up as true on the combo counter in training and is it *technically* possible on controller?
Thanks! At high percents it will come up as a true combo on the combo counter if you do it fast enough (i.e the 2 frame perfect inputs). Though it can still be true at high percents and not come up as true on the combo counter (I.e when 1-2 frames late at high percents). If you don't have the mod pack and put both characters at 100%, if it comes up true on the combo counter that should mean it would have worked at low percents as well. Yes it technically possible on all controllers, but the reason it is probably not attempted on pad as much is that you can not buffer a c-stick Crouch Dash from Crouch Jab. See 2350CST tutorial video in the description to see it done on Gamecube controller.
@@alfonsogamer0075 There might be a few situational combos against some chars where you do not need EWGF, but there is still no replacing EWGF. Just keep sticking with it though, it will become easier and easier as you do
@@ViedViper thx, it is just that i want to be a diferente Kazuya Main, a Kazuya Main that doesn't use EWGF, why? No reason just Flex. I con learn ewgf in 2 weeks max but i just havent inbested enoug time on it.
No, unfortunately you can not do c-stick Crouch Dash for this combo because it is an "A Press" first which will input another Crouch Jab before a c-stick Crouch Dash can come out.
Yes, but aside from needing 2 frame perfect inputs at low percents, you cannot buffer a c-stick CD from a Crouch Jab which could make it even more difficult if that is how you normally CD on pad. Though doing CDC-DB (cancelling with a neutral input then a DB input like shown in the video)to full crouch attacks is pretty standard for any controller. But it doesn't have to be frame perfect like for the infinite here.
Yeah definitely lol, But I think it is mostly due to that you can't do it with a c-stick Crouch Dash. If you could, I would think that a lot more pad players would at least be trying it a bit more and trying to get some reps.
@@WhatsWrongBuddy TYVM! I don't think they go on sale, I haven't seen it unfortunately. If you do, I'd recommend my base layout for sure that just about every other Smash box Kazuya uses. twitter.com/ViedViper/status/1535047940661706760 Yeah definitely a time and money investment for sure, but if you do get a box I'd recommend Smash Box for Kazuya with my layout. Only really Smash box can use this layout cause of the Mode button that is not on other boxes.
LOL! Unfortunately (but probably fortunately lol) you will lose way more games going for these combos instead of an easier (though maybe less optimal) route. At least for now...
@@juhadexcelsior yeah it is lol, check out this video here at 1:35 ruclips.net/video/gCWI7bM_XYc/видео.html Doesn't start working until high percents iirc, but can definitely be optimal if your starter is also the jab. For sure easier, but still kinda hard lol. But there are some tricks you can do I'll go over when I upload that video.
Thank you for your Kazuya videos. You are a blessing to Kazuya mains everywhere.
TYVM! Still have so many more videos I want to go over, just been busy, but I'm going to try and upload more frequently.
that's a curse for everyone else!
@@handlebar4520 LOL! Its also a curse on anyone's hands that grind these combos as well XD
this is like when steve mains released that video on pmlg
Nice to see these videos again! Thanks for everything to the kazuya community so far!
TYVM! I'm going to try to start to stick to a more consistent schedule as best I can. Still have a lot more to upload!
1 frame inputs is so tekken bruh. I love kazuyas inclusion in smash. Good video btw!!
yeah, lol and no shortcuts at all with this combo. TYVM!
THE SSBU Kazuya RUclipsr.
Great content.
Lol TYVM! Appreciate it as always!
If you like this content give a Thumbs up for my sore thumbs(/hands) grinding these combos lol! Probably will try to get back to these sooner than later this time as there is still more stuff I want to go over. And be sure to subscribe to everyone above if you haven't already! (Myself included!)
Honestly most broken usage which you covered is the fact that we can use it to carry opponents on bf to areas where they won’t be able to mixup di using the plat (aka on the middle of bf/small bf)
Yeah exactly what I was thinking! So many applications to make combos less interactable, that one is probably favorite! So hard though, but that might be a good thing lol!
This is incredible
TYVM!
The GOAT is back!!! It's always a good day when ViedViper drops a new video
LOL TYVM! Yeah and cancelling Crouch Dash with N,DB is the fastest way to go to crouch from CD since the second cancel input being DB is also the start of crouch.
Yeah you need to go Full Crouch first as well before doing a DGF. Iirc correctly it is 6 frames of DB then you can DGF. I think. You might also be able to shimmy up and down after Full Crouch and then DGF. I'll test all this all out later.
getting a bit more consistent with moving left but not the other way around unfortunately lol still though love to see it
Great video explaining I have a couple questions, will it come up as true on the combo counter in training and is it *technically* possible on controller?
Thanks! At high percents it will come up as a true combo on the combo counter if you do it fast enough (i.e the 2 frame perfect inputs). Though it can still be true at high percents and not come up as true on the combo counter (I.e when 1-2 frames late at high percents). If you don't have the mod pack and put both characters at 100%, if it comes up true on the combo counter that should mean it would have worked at low percents as well. Yes it technically possible on all controllers, but the reason it is probably not attempted on pad as much is that you can not buffer a c-stick Crouch Dash from Crouch Jab. See 2350CST tutorial video in the description to see it done on Gamecube controller.
@@ViedViper Amazing thanks for typing that out 😁
@@pigboi666 Of course, no problem! :)
I just want 1 thing, Kazuya combos that don't need either ewgf or the uncrouch attack. Like imagine beating some one withou using those moves lol
LOL I think it might be possible. You might be able to do something with regular Wind God Fist against fast fallers. I'm going to give it a try
@@ViedViper thx. I SUCK at ewgf SO not having to use it would be awesome.
@@alfonsogamer0075 There might be a few situational combos against some chars where you do not need EWGF, but there is still no replacing EWGF. Just keep sticking with it though, it will become easier and easier as you do
@@ViedViper thx, it is just that i want to be a diferente Kazuya Main, a Kazuya Main that doesn't use EWGF, why? No reason just Flex. I con learn ewgf in 2 weeks max but i just havent inbested enoug time on it.
Im finna lab this shit TODAY all GCC shit lmaoo
cracked tutorial wtf
LOL TYVM!
Is it possible to get a footstool in the frame advantage using crouch dash cancel jump?
Omg I just realized u could cjab with the c stick while holding DB, can you?
Great vid as alawys, keep up your work!
Lol yeah, can be pretty useful. TYVM! Should be more consistent with uploads as well
Can you use the C stick trick to do the shurikan input on this combo??
No, unfortunately you can not do c-stick Crouch Dash for this combo because it is an "A Press" first which will input another Crouch Jab before a c-stick Crouch Dash can come out.
Is this possible on GameCube bc if so this is broken for mixing up shield
Yes, but aside from needing 2 frame perfect inputs at low percents, you cannot buffer a c-stick CD from a Crouch Jab which could make it even more difficult if that is how you normally CD on pad. Though doing CDC-DB (cancelling with a neutral input then a DB input like shown in the video)to full crouch attacks is pretty standard for any controller. But it doesn't have to be frame perfect like for the infinite here.
this looks so cool but a smash box would help a lot
Yeah definitely lol, But I think it is mostly due to that you can't do it with a c-stick Crouch Dash. If you could, I would think that a lot more pad players would at least be trying it a bit more and trying to get some reps.
@@ViedViperwould you recommend buying a smash box used? or do you know if they ever go on sale?
Anyway amazing content as always!
@@WhatsWrongBuddy TYVM! I don't think they go on sale, I haven't seen it unfortunately. If you do, I'd recommend my base layout for sure that just about every other Smash box Kazuya uses. twitter.com/ViedViper/status/1535047940661706760
Yeah definitely a time and money investment for sure, but if you do get a box I'd recommend Smash Box for Kazuya with my layout. Only really Smash box can use this layout cause of the Mode button that is not on other boxes.
It just gets worse and worse 😭😭😭😭 Kazuya is so broken man
LOL! Unfortunately (but probably fortunately lol) you will lose way more games going for these combos instead of an easier (though maybe less optimal) route. At least for now...
@@ViedViper isn't a well timed repeated single jab also an infinite? Lol tht's much easier
@@juhadexcelsior yeah it is lol, check out this video here at 1:35 ruclips.net/video/gCWI7bM_XYc/видео.html
Doesn't start working until high percents iirc, but can definitely be optimal if your starter is also the jab. For sure easier, but still kinda hard lol. But there are some tricks you can do I'll go over when I upload that video.
I'm so glad I don't play ultimate anymore