the initial paths were easier than the nepal side, it seems like plain surface for most part , but in the higher altitiudes like from camp 1 onwards to summit , nepal side is much easier . especially in the death zone , the tibetian side is very steep , which seems more dangerous than nepal side .
@@christopherreinsmith1401 I know. That is what I said in my comment. If you take the north route then you skip the icefall. Icefall is on the south route.
I was not sure if I should try the north side or the south side. Since the costs are almost the same, summited both sides successfully from my laptop.😜
the initial paths were easier than the nepal side, it seems like plain surface for most part , but in the higher altitiudes like from camp 1 onwards to summit , nepal side is much easier . especially in the death zone , the tibetian side is very steep , which seems more dangerous than nepal side .
If anyone has any remaining doubts about the impact of global warming, they should watch this video. All the glaciers before Changste Base Camp are gone, just rock and dirt left. How sad.
Just curious and I mean no disrespect. Green boots cave, where is it when looking at this animation? I know its somewhere around the first step but is it below it, right of it, above it, etc. Also sleeping beauty, was she to the left of the first step when looking at this animation?
So it’s easier to get to but harder to climb from this side? Looks like flatter plains in the lead up but more difficult once you’re actually on the mountain.
Question for anybody who knows: Assuming a climber has O2 tanks, does that give him/her any added time in the “death zone”? Or are the cold, air pressure and altitude potentially lethal factors in themselves? Thanks if anybody knows.
Having extra O2 is a necessity as the oxygen up there is 1/3 of that at sea level. However this doesn't give a climber exta time in the death zone or the summit as the temperature, altitude and pressure there is so low that humans aren't built to function in that condition. These factors cause ape or ace which results in the death of many climbers.
SI is there any part that is shared with the south side itinary ? Like when arriving near the summit, you would meet people having done the south side and you and him would do the final summit climb ?
Just wondering why the three steps are used. Norton 1924 by-passed them and even Messner did so on his solo tour in 1980. Why has this not become common practice?
It’s almost always safer and easier to move up on a ridgeline than traversing on a steep, icy, unstable face below the ridgeline. On all my alpine climbs, I found the traverses on steep faces the most terrifying. For professional climbers, like Norton & Messner, it didn't make a difference. The three steps on the Notheast ridge are formidable, but safe, as long as you have the energy reserves to keep moving. The Second Step has three ladders, which really helps. I found the Hillary Step on the South Approach relatively easy. If I had to traverse below the Hillary Step, I probably would have turned around. The fall into Nepal or Tibet would have been over 7,000 feet.
Is the North route more logistically hard, permits and such, aside from climbing difficulty? And therefore more expensive to do? As others have said, while the South might be less difficult in purely technical terms, you'd need to consider the higher risks from overcrowded lock-jams. I watched your video of your two Everest climbs and it looked as though you were the sole client with your guides on your North side climb. ---Another late-comer to high altitude mountaineering.
Yes, logistically the North route is harder. The Chinese issue the climbing permits and often do not make it easy. They also control what you can bring to Base Camp, including books and videos. The Chinese team also fixes the lines on the mountain so you are at their mercy. When I summited in 2014, we followed the Chinese line fixing team up the mountain because they were so late in fixing lines. The North approach used to be less expensive, but now I think the cost is about the same.
The rock faces slant downward on the north slope, making it the more difficult climb on the upper sections. At least on the north side you can essentially trek it all the way up the Rongbuk East glacier until reaching the icewall, rather than having to start out on the south side by negotiating the Khumbu icefall.
@@captaintrechabomb982 On which route? From the south (Nepal), essentially no. However, it's the Sherpa ice doctors who take most of the risks by setting up the ice ladders during the afternoon for the next day's climbers.
I'm sorry but I thought it was commonly known that Mt. Everest 29,029ft? Is it really 29,035ft?? I know it's only a matter of 6ft but I've always read (even on Wikipedia) that it was 29,029ft.
@@saikat8773 it does look like it’s more steep, but Nepal side you gotta deal w Kumba Ice fall. To hell w that. Waking on those aluminum ladders over crevasse on a glacier that is moving? Nope. I’d take my chances from the North. Not too mention Hillary step is always a traffic jam.
@@swedejohanson7739 gotta do the falls bro lol but you know the falls claim more lives than any part of the mountain, including the death zone...look it up.
At least ten, and probably more. The South Approach and the North Approach are the most popular. They are depicted in my video: ruclips.net/video/TyCvmdtRlOI/видео.html
At 3:22, the image looks familiar. It's that big rock wall. I swear I have seen that same rock wall in some images from Mallory's expedition. I could be wrong.
@@eightsummits Yes, I understand that. But the summit is the same place whether you get there from the North or the South. So if you reach the summit from one side and you encounter another team reaching the sunmit frim the other side, is there a protocol who goes to the very top first?
@@georgeemil3618 I am not aware of any protocol. Both times I reached the summit, I didn't see anyone from the other approach. There is plenty of room for everyone.
They all should start at the advance camp, helicopter could fly these people there, then start walking to the mountain. This way maybe all lives could be saved. That's one he'll of a walk. 👣
Or the French helicopter that has in the past touched down on the summit, could drop climbers off at the top. They could then climb down to the "balcony, then be lifted off to the base. The hold experience could take just a few hours. They could be back in London the following day!
@@princesadelaos it's beacuse the tenzing norgay and Ed Hillary did it from south col side. And soon people started doing it from south side. And that route is more commercialised than north col
Roos in space I would take the North Col route, if I went on an expedition for Everest Summit. No Khumbu Icefall, no Lhotse Face, no Hillary Step...your biggest technical challenge is the Northeast Ridge. Not sure why more climbers don't take this approach. 🤔
@Shravan Subba Nice try kid, but that was discovery. What your beloved little China is doing is gross and a rape of the world. Sincerely hoping for nukes from India.
Well!!! Climbed annapurna, K2 and Everest both north & south sides in past 1 hour. Time for some rest 😴
No time for rest, hit the Appalachian Trail..
there are different climbing experiences for the resting period...if you are all into it.
🙂💔
You 🐥..you missed to climb Manaslu..hardestscary out of all of them😝😆
Make you pay the sherpas😂😂
great video overall! I like how you put "Halfway Point" when showing the summit :)
More people die going down;
this way seams a lot more chill than the nepal side
I was thinking the same thing!
the initial paths were easier than the nepal side, it seems like plain surface for most part , but in the higher altitiudes like from camp 1 onwards to summit , nepal side is much easier . especially in the death zone , the tibetian side is very steep , which seems more dangerous than nepal side .
@@WaliTV-zr1yt True but you skip the icefall on the North route.
@@ednakelley814No ice fall, on north route! You do climb a wall, after ABC, to the North Col! No ice fall!
@@christopherreinsmith1401 I know. That is what I said in my comment. If you take the north route then you skip the icefall. Icefall is on the south route.
its fucking amazing how it creates that perfect pyramid shadow
I was not sure if I should try the north side or the south side. Since the costs are almost the same, summited both sides successfully from my laptop.😜
the initial paths were easier than the nepal side, it seems like plain surface for most part , but in the higher altitiudes like from camp 1 onwards to summit , nepal side is much easier . especially in the death zone , the tibetian side is very steep , which seems more dangerous than nepal side .
If anyone has any remaining doubts about the impact of global warming, they should watch this video. All the glaciers before Changste Base Camp are gone, just rock and dirt left. How sad.
I've learned a lot from reading the comments. So glad this appeared on recommended videos. 😊
Enjoyed, thanks 🏴
我觉得珠峰北坡大本营可以修到绒布冰川那里，之前的地方可以修成公路。不然走路要走太远了。
Looks amazing.. Thanks for showing us the route.
I will wait till they construct road till high base camp and a warmed rope car to the top
Really, they do need to build a cable car to the summit. 🍻
@@semperinfidel2115 They will have to be in space suits whilst building lol
Just curious and I mean no disrespect. Green boots cave, where is it when looking at this animation? I know its somewhere around the first step but is it below it, right of it, above it, etc. Also sleeping beauty, was she to the left of the first step when looking at this animation?
Great, It would ha e been nice with a split screen, where one could track the way to the top showing the elevation simultaneously.
So it’s easier to get to but harder to climb from this side? Looks like flatter plains in the lead up but more difficult once you’re actually on the mountain.
That last image is tight
Question for anybody who knows: Assuming a climber has O2 tanks, does that give him/her any added time in the “death zone”? Or are the cold, air pressure and altitude potentially lethal factors in themselves? Thanks if anybody knows.
Having extra O2 is a necessity as the oxygen up there is 1/3 of that at sea level. However this doesn't give a climber exta time in the death zone or the summit as the temperature, altitude and pressure there is so low that humans aren't built to function in that condition. These factors cause ape or ace which results in the death of many climbers.
@@donaaa Thank you-so it really is a race against time once the summit has been reached. So many die on the way back down.
@@donaaa necessity for most, a lot of people climb without oxygen.
So the idea with the north route is to skip the danger of the ice fall in favour of a more gruelling climb to the top?
It's my dream to summit mt everest one day. It probably wont happen but who knows
SI is there any part that is shared with the south side itinary ? Like when arriving near the summit, you would meet people having done the south side and you and him would do the final summit climb ?
The routes from the South and the North only intersect on the summit. See my video "Mt. Everest: South Approach and North Approach.
@@eightsummits Thanks. I prefer it beeing told vs trying to figure out from videos. Guess I'm lazy and thus will never climb the Everest lol !
C3 in death zone? How come???
This may be a silly question but is one side more strenuous to summit than the other? Above the death zone on the north side looks more technical
see eightsummits.com/mt-everest/
@@eightsummits mate, you're an inspiration to never calling it quits!
Just wondering why the three steps are used.
Norton 1924 by-passed them and even Messner
did so on his solo tour in 1980.
Why has this not become common practice?
It’s almost always safer and easier to move up on a ridgeline than traversing on a steep, icy, unstable face below the ridgeline. On all my alpine climbs, I found the traverses on steep faces the most terrifying. For professional climbers, like Norton & Messner, it didn't make a difference.
The three steps on the Notheast ridge are formidable, but safe, as long as you have the energy reserves to keep moving. The Second Step has three ladders, which really helps.
I found the Hillary Step on the South Approach relatively easy. If I had to traverse below the Hillary Step, I probably would have turned around. The fall into Nepal or Tibet would have been over 7,000 feet.
Is the North route more logistically hard, permits and such, aside from climbing difficulty? And therefore more expensive to do?
As others have said, while the South might be less difficult in purely technical terms, you'd need to consider the higher risks from overcrowded lock-jams.
I watched your video of your two Everest climbs and it looked as though you were the sole client with your guides on your North side climb.
---Another late-comer to high altitude mountaineering.
Yes, logistically the North route is harder. The Chinese issue the climbing permits and often do not make it easy. They also control what you can bring to Base Camp, including books and videos. The Chinese team also fixes the lines on the mountain so you are at their mercy. When I summited in 2014, we followed the Chinese line fixing team up the mountain because they were so late in fixing lines. The North approach used to be less expensive, but now I think the cost is about the same.
It seems easier to climb this route than South? I dread the Icefall
It’s not. Cold and steep. South is a doddle.
The rock faces slant downward on the north slope, making it the more difficult climb on the upper sections. At least on the north side you can essentially trek it all the way up the Rongbuk East glacier until reaching the icewall, rather than having to start out on the south side by negotiating the Khumbu icefall.
@@baraxor Is it possible to trek all the way to intermediate base camp without crossing crevasses?
@@captaintrechabomb982 On which route? From the south (Nepal), essentially no. However, it's the Sherpa ice doctors who take most of the risks by setting up the ice ladders during the afternoon for the next day's climbers.
@@baraxor What about the north?
Witch program do you build this route? Any site ?
Pretty sure its google earth homie
I'm sorry but I thought it was commonly known that Mt. Everest 29,029ft? Is it really 29,035ft?? I know it's only a matter of 6ft but I've always read (even on Wikipedia) that it was 29,029ft.
Does anyone know how many "path-miles" or Trek-miles that is?? I would greatly appreciate the info. Thx.
North route is approx 22 miles .
What the cost l of this project
Looks an easier climb than the more common route
I agree, looks less difficult than the southern route, far less snow and ice, a barren bitch.
I heard you spend more time above the death zone on the northern approach. That is why many prefer the south. Is that the primary factor?
not just that. north side is very steep compared to nepal side . this make north side more dangerous
@@saikat8773 it does look like it’s more steep, but Nepal side you gotta deal w Kumba Ice fall. To hell w that. Waking on those aluminum ladders over crevasse on a glacier that is moving? Nope. I’d take my chances from the North. Not too mention Hillary step is always a traffic jam.
@@swedejohanson7739 gotta do the falls bro lol but you know the falls claim more lives than any part of the mountain, including the death zone...look it up.
From how many routes can MT EVEREST be climbed?
At least ten, and probably more. The South Approach and the North Approach are the most popular. They are depicted in my video: ruclips.net/video/TyCvmdtRlOI/видео.html
Camp 3 looks terrifying given that you need fixed ropes right outside the tent.
At 3:22, the image looks familiar. It's that big rock wall. I swear I have seen that same rock wall in some images from Mallory's expedition. I could be wrong.
This is the Mallory/Irvine route
Almost like being there myself, just slightly less suffering.
Harder, but less polluted with bodies, gear and human wastes. I’d love to go with North Face route. Too bad this is only my pipe dream.
This looks even easier than the South Col route.
Nope. Very cold and steeper.
Do the climbers from the North and the South side take alternating turns getting to the summit?
No. The North and South approaches are two different routes to reach the summit. See my Mt. Everest South Approach and North Approach video.
@@eightsummits Yes, I understand that. But the summit is the same place whether you get there from the North or the South. So if you reach the summit from one side and you encounter another team reaching the sunmit frim the other side, is there a protocol who goes to the very top first?
@@georgeemil3618 I am not aware of any protocol. Both times I reached the summit, I didn't see anyone from the other approach. There is plenty of room for everyone.
@@eightsummits Thanks
witch is the easier South or North route?
See eightsummits.com/the-eight-summits/mt-everest/
Aren't there just a handful of climbers that didn't use either ridge but actually went right up the face of the thing?
Yes, lots of different routes have been climbed. One of the most famous is the West Ridge Route climbed by Tom Hornbein and others in 1963
I have summited all fourteen 8000'ers successfully within a very short duration from my laptop. 😂
I heard that the Second Step is the hardest.
Only on the north side that you have to go through the 1st, 2nd and 3rd steps ( Escalões) ?...🤔
Yes, no first step, second step or third step on the South side. And, no Icefall on the North side.
Thank you
We should build a temporary airport on top of mount everest lol
North side seems a lot....less challenging?
I believe the North approach is more challenging than the South Approach: eightsummits.com/mt-everest/
M&I first to summit june 8th 1924.! rip to all of the british pioneers of the early expeditions
They may cause Pollution hazard
This is from china's side..
The north side is the most dangerous route
Sir, i like to know why is it dangerous than the South route? Tnx:)
Loxley sings How qbout fqlling down those crevesses.
@@danielledewitt1 There are crevasses on the South Col route too.
aluisious I know.
@@loxleysings5646 north route is more steeper after death zone , which makes it more dangerous
can permanent human habitation happen on mount everest
I hope not. It won't happen in our lifetimes.
No.
no camp 4?
This is the north col route, only the south col route has a camp 4.
Why do most people don't take this route?
Gu Nesnaj China gives less permits and it’s not as commercialised
Got motion sickness watching this, couldn’t read the text either.
They all should start at the advance camp, helicopter could fly these people there, then start walking to the mountain. This way maybe all lives could be saved. That's one he'll of a walk. 👣
Or the French helicopter that has in the past touched down on the summit, could drop climbers off at the top. They could then climb down to the "balcony, then be lifted off to the base. The hold experience could take just a few hours. They could be back in London the following day!
The walk is part of the acclimatisation required by all climbers, to the change in altitude.
Mount everest is about twice as high as most helicopters can reach
Mallory's route
No one should climb this route it is the longer route it's also the route that most of the people have died climbing
anybody got any dramimine?
Whatta magnificent ego trash mountain.
Agree Roos in space but its seem very longest walked huh?
I summited Everest in 1949
Xylophone
Hello all of you this is in nepal.
No its from tibet side
NOW..BACK down.
North route looks easier and less dangerous than south face route
its the opposite, thats why way more people climb the south face
@@princesadelaos it's beacuse the tenzing norgay and Ed Hillary did it from south col side. And soon people started doing it from south side. And that route is more commercialised than north col
That's not true, climbing the south summit from south route is much more easier
Roos in space I would take the North Col route, if I went on an expedition for Everest Summit. No Khumbu Icefall, no Lhotse Face, no Hillary Step...your biggest technical challenge is the Northeast Ridge. Not sure why more climbers don't take this approach. 🤔
It's not
Much more safer than the Nepali side.
No it’s not
why people climb everest?
Because it's there.
@@europa1387 ;)
Forgot their phone up there.
@@europa1387 +1
Well anyone could sit in their backyard on snow with a flag.
Electricity will be supplied for every everest camp in tibet.
China will soon build a cable car to everest 6 16 2019
donovan campbell Liar.
It wouldn’t surprise me even though it’s not on chinese territory. They stole Tibet after all.
@Shravan Subba Nice try kid, but that was discovery. What your beloved little China is doing is gross and a rape of the world. Sincerely hoping for nukes from India.
@@nuntana2 Nice, chairman Mao was Based 😁
ITS TIBET...NOT CHINA
Well you can't get to tibet because you need a Chinese visa. Are you going to cry? 😅
Got motion sickness. Why jerk the camera around like that? Stick with mountain climbing and leave the videos for someone who knows what they're doing