Reminds me of a quote I saw once: "If you spend your time chasing butterflies, they'll fly away. But if you spend your time building a beautiful garden, the butterflies will come. And if they don't, you still have your beautiful garden."
Sitting alone in that beautiful garden doesn't seem nice to me. Actually, not 'seem', but 'is'. I háve a beautiful garden. It attracts butterflies, but no girls.
I get about 2 likes a week. I am 6'1', 180 lbs, and I have a 4 year Engineering degree and a well paying job. I am regularly ghosted by broke single moms. It is crazy.
The biggest problem is that a lot of low value women now believe they deserve a high value man due to all this attention. I've seen women with 3+ kids, no degree, low income job talking about wanting a 1% man.
Yeah dating apps have made some women very entitled.. Because they get so many matches and men outnumber women by a significant margin in almost all of them. It makes sense to be picky of course, but within your means.
A woman that was about 40 years old, “Indian” but looked Italian. Location “Orlando, Florida” said she earns a lot of money, business owner, and is looking for a Multimillionaire to marry to “split the bills” 😂. Explicitly stated “no offense” to other men but it is what it is. The confidence on that woman was BIZARRE. Conservation went like: Me: The odds of getting a rich man is very low. Her: You never know Me: It’s too late now, you should have gotten that rich dude in your 20’s! Her: How rude!! 🤬🤬😡😡😡😡 She was angry
Yeah, exactly right man. Low value women looking for something they don't deserve, and 99% of them on dating apps are a real life mess. Social media has destroyed everything.
100% 🤣. That's an ultimate statement. There are so many average looking girls with average looking guys. In fact that is most couples I see. I would say definitely not 100% .
yea, I checked out of dating. maybe if I meet someone in person, but nah, I aint doing any online shiiiiit. dating to marry in this culture sucks man. i really like your last point about stopping the chase and taking time to think about the kinda woman you wanna marry, and becoming the kind of man that SHE would want
I met a girl like this, she was talking to multiple other guys and kept making it seem like she was interested. In my experience, most women my age act high schooly. That said I still hear rumors that she never did get over it as we had a one-night stand.
Rather talk to women in real life buddy and hit the gym get ur style up ur money up ur confidence. It's an actual date that u on . U will see they won't reject u
@@jaundremarais8787 They might "reject" you in that you think it's a rejection, but they're actually just testing you. It's immature, but it happens, see above.
@KRYMauL bro I said when u talk to a women in real life it's an actual date coz u like what u see . U can go interact and make new friends all that she can say is she does have a bf. But this will boost ur communication skills !!! Or u can just stay on dating apps and wish or hope for match from a fat overweight ugly single mom who is playing games with u . In real life a women will never b rude with u .she will still tell u politely she does have sum1 . Unless she's a total bitter asshole
Given Derek, an average looking guy, said he got 7 to 12 matches per day... that's hardly evidence of the black pill. Had Derek got zero to 5 matches in three months...that's proof of a black pill reality. This video is the complete opposite of black pill.
A lot of these problems are actually because of men. Women desire attention. Men these days throw it out non-stop (Social media, simping, OF, etc). Stop giving attention to people who don't deserve it and learn to walk away the second you're disrespected.
This will never happen as sex is wanted by every man and they're always ready to do anything possible just to get sex! This is why men rape and pay for onlyfans as they want sex but they're unable to get attention and this market is never going to die. You can just remove these guys from being called men but they're still men in the eyes of the world
If men were being chased like the majority of women are, there wouldn't be a problem. The men are not asking for ridiculous expectations like 6 ft, six figures and a six pack. Men are more family driven, that's why when we make more money we say now I can start a family. "Women:" Now I have to find someone that makes more money than me. Men don't care if the woman comes from nothing. It's clear 70 to 80 percent of divorces are initiated by women. This is why only 6 out of 1000 men are getting married these days.
If men were being chased like the majority of women are, there wouldn't be a problem. The men are not asking for ridiculous expectations like 6 ft, six figures and a six pack. Men are more family driven, that's why when we make more money we say now I can start a family. "Women:" Now I have to find someone that makes more money than me. Men don't care if the woman comes from nothing. It's clear 70 to 80 percent of divorces are initiated by women. This is why only 6 out of 1000 men are getting married these days.
The best is when you're messaging a girl on a dating app and she asks for your instagram, sees that you don't have a lot of followers and then ghosts you.
@@Dereksilver0 Happens to me a lot. I think it's because they either think we're losers with no friends, or they think that we are cheating on our gfs and that's why we won't give out the IG.
@@Dereksilver0 there was a time 10 years when having IG was a red flag cuz the guy would be following other girls. If he didn’t have IG, that meant he wasn’t looking at girls on there 😅
there's also a phenomena where the more options you're given the more you regret the decision you made -- with the grape jam example, with only 2 options you would feel confident in your choice -- with 200 options, once you finally make your decision, after a while you will begin to regret it and think the grass is greener with one of the other options you didn't pick
Women can get 12 messages per day from different guys and one can be more richer, prettier, older or younger than the other one. There is literally no reason for them to ever stop this train until looks will fade
Great discussion big dawg. As an average man in the USA, I will give 0 attention/validation to these modern women. Whether its online or in person they just don't deserve my money, time, or personal feelings. I found a passion in traveling the world, pretty soon I will be in country # 20( not a passport bro!). In addition I focus on growing my business, reading, hitting the gym, being healthy, becoming the best version of myself. Whether or not women show interest, I am happy being single and accomplishing my personal goals!
You telling the truth man these women in America aitn shit it's time to move on get a woman that not only looks good but has the drive to build with you, good personality and loves you for you unlike these American women.
Bro, hostess at a restaurant asked me to take her number, we grabbed coffee the next day. The following day this b said she needed a new winter coat and asked if I wanted to buy it for her 😂
Dating apps don't work anymore you have to pay for everything, and I personally can't meet any in person because I'm not outgoing and confident enough.
@@Someguy0525 Confidence comes from getting rejected over and over funny enough. Fear of rejection is much greater than the rejection itself. And alcohol always works.
The height thing is a weird modern issue. I’m not even short but it’s so off putting. You will be talking with a girl for days and right before the date 50% of them will ask me how tall I am. I know if I was short they would just cancel the date, and these are girls who have invested time talking to me not girls I just opened.
@@bro918 It's optional. Never a must. The only musts are age (legal reasons) and "name" (you can use a fake, and I've seen plenty ofr girls who just use the first letter of their name) Honestly, I'm like 5'9/10 and I just openly have mine on my profile, if a girl says no she was superficial or/and very tall and wanted a man taller than her which is reasonable anyway; no loss for me. That being said I've had girls I've dated ask me and they've openly mentioned preferring 6 ft+ and it's never been an issue. I prefer D/DD+ busts, guess what? all my long term exes were busty, that being said, I had a ONS with a B cup, I've openly flirted with girls I found cute and fun to be around whom were B's too. It's a preference and that's okay. It ceases to be okay when the standards are too high. E.g. "I only date 6ft+" for a girl who is 5 ft, is stupid. I however would say a girl being 5'10 and saying that if reasonable, since she wants a man taller than her. Same for men, "I want a girl with big boobs" > Average in their country is a C let's say, girl is a C or a D > They're not a DD or E >:( NO DEAL. Both happen, and it is from inflated senses of "what can I get".
Had women swipe right on me on tinder. We would be in full blown convo messaging, they saying im handsome, that we have things in common. Ask em bout height and crickets, then minutes later im unmatched. One woman told how she was looking for a friend, last guy cheated etc etc.. height brought up, and I was unmatched in 90secs.. or some make the excuse I was just swiping, even though my height was listed
Love this video mate. So I also conducted a similar experiment with a 9/10 white male model and a 9/10 white female model. The female model got 100 likes a day for 5 days straight The male model averaged 2-5 likes a day. The crazier part was that the white male model did very similar to me, which was actually a massive confidence boost. That being said, I’ve still struggled to find anything meaningful on the apps x
Woman that are looking for meaningful relationships have just as hard a time as men finding them. I've always heard that more men than women go on the dating sites, and that's part of the reason that women get so much more attention. Plus, like the guy acknowledged, it's part of male nature to pursue. I was a young looking, slim and a bit above average mid 40's women when I last was online. I got lots of mail and clicks and all that, but a heck of a lot was younger men looking for a cougar hookup. So many guys would send likes instead of message, or attempt to chat. Then there was lots of creepy guys just looking to get laid and wanting video hookups and sexting kind of correspondence. Lots of players, lots of too bold and no sense w/ women. It wasn't about money or the best looking or best resources. I wanted an average guy who had a healthy idea about women, dating and relationships. That was still pretty hard to find. I made a few friends that would ask my advice and help, and was ready to just delete my account in defeat, when a sweet, awkward and shy man, that still had confidence and knew that he wanted to settle down came along and was persistent and consistent enough to get me to date him.
@@saintejeannedarc9460 Women who look for meaningful relationships on OLD also fish for the best value man. I very recently went out with someone who wanted to take it slow and build a relationship, which I was 100% on board with as I'm not the type to take pleasure in chasing. The date went extremely well, our lifestyles were very similar, our passions were 1:1. We even set up a second date afterwards. Not even a week later (3-4 days after the date), she sends a message telling me she found someone better. Capitalism and internet technology has corrupted the concept of love and courtship, both of which require time. Everything is taken as face value. Nobody has the patience to know a person properly. They look at the appearances (looks, hobbies, lifestyle) and make their judgement after the first 3-5 hours of knowing the person.
I think that something that is overlooked a lot by us men is realizing when it's time to put yourself in situations where you'll be able to meet girls that have similar interests as yourself. I'm a 26yo with 2 jobs with a great income, athletic, with friends, savings, mature, outgoing and easygoing but I've been so focused on bettering myself that I didn't even look for dating opportunities because I thought the "right one" would just fall in my arms. Like everything in life, if you want it, go and get it. So this year I'm getting into dance and cooking classes, boxing gym, going on trips, maybe a running group...and yeah some dating apps here and there but put yourself in situations where you'll have the opportunity to meet someone that has similar interests as you, this makes the approach much more natural.
Just a heads up, all those classes and activities you are planning on joining are going to have signs up and maybe even make you sign something that says you understand this is not the place to try to meet women and get dates.
@@Jeremy-ql1or well the same can be said about dating apps in terms of sign-up fees if you really want them to "work" and at the end of the day you're really just throwing money at the wall and seeing if it sticks. Yeah I might pay 100$ for dance classes and I might not meet a girl but at least I still get a return on my investment because I'll know how to dance and that could give me more opportunities. As for the waiver, I mean you shouldn't go do an activity with the soul purpose of approaching woman, you should have an actual interest in the activity, you'll come out more genuine and in the example of dance classes, physical contact is kind of mandatory so might as well start talking with who you're dancing with. My point is just to put yourself in the right environment to meet the type of person you want.
@@Jeremy-ql1orI don't see how they could enforce it tho, just play your cards slowly and don't be too forward. You could always say you were just being friendly. If she doesn't show much interest early, keep spinning plates with others in the class.
This is exactly what you are supposed to do. The more activities you yourself like that you know women will in their own way come to, the higher the odds (no guarantees cause it's life) you can meet someone that really digs you. It's not easy though.
Idk, my viewpoint is a little different. I mostly ONLY date women who message me first or show very high interest, but most women I’ve met in dating apps have problems, low self esteem, BPD, baby daddies that make so they have to sneak talk to me, that’s why I don’t reccomend it. Luckily I happened to find a regular women on there, her only baggage is she’s been cheated on but it’s starting to come together now, hopefully
Everything you say is so true. But damn. As a 38 yo guy who is starting over dating, going back on the online dating apps and dealing with all of this makes me want to vomit
People too afraid to get rejected in person nowadays, sadly 🙃 I blame social media for changing that mindset of online presence vs going outside and talking to someone. 🙃
5’9” and girls ask me out in real life. It got me thinking I was good-looking. In reality, I’m like a 6/10. Zero matches. I got 2 likes from one trashy looking girl and one super ugly girl.
Out of all videos based on this topic, this is the best. You've covered nearly everything and made it so well said. I think another video idea would be visually showcasing the results girls get on these apps, like what sort of dudes are matching them, etc, like the things you mentioned in this video that you saw in the experiment. Also maybe another video discussing some solutions we can do to better navigate this modern online dating world, if any.
they will choose a 9/10 chad out of their 200 daily matches, get railed and dumped then complain on reddit how all the men just want sex and abuse them. LMAO
I think the most important thing to note out of all of this is. Dating apps work on an algorithm. They want you paying for every feature. 10 years ago when dating apps were not so heavily algo based it was like fishing with dynamite for everyone. People, think really long and hard. They don’t want you to ever leave these apps. You are literally and I mean quite literally paying for nothing. If two people matched so easily, it wouldn’t be the business it is. I would even argue they don’t want you meeting people. It’s literally paying for something they don’t deliver
Thank you so much for making this video. I had the same experience on those apps, and really felt terrible not only about myself but also about women in general. Only after quitting those apps I realized, neither I am so bad nor are women in general. Its just the nature of the beast that those apps create in the heads of both and women. The longer that beast has lived in someone's head, the more hard it would do to that person. Another thing I can relate with you was the short attention span of women on those apps. A person like me who takes one or two days to respond to text messages anyway can never survive in such an environment. Those apps are good only for those top 10% men, but for the rest of us mere mortals its terrible !
My ratio is around 30 to 1. For every 30 messages I send, I get a message back. I'm financially independent, I'm 6', I'm handy and I travel. I have an IQ of 147. I'm around a six on the handsome scale. I'm a man. I open doors, I take care of my family, my neighbors, I retired (medically from the military) at 32. I own the home I built myself. I pay for things because I'm uncomfortable with a woman paying. 30 to 1.
@@JohnPickup-CDHS-ze6qd Pepperidge farms ain’t gonna keep it to Pepperidge farms self free of charge. Maybe you buy some of our cookies and this whole this just disappears.
It depends on what you say or do. No one ever gets arrested for being respectful and courteous. And we men should learn how to take rejections. Yes, it hurts, but saying thank you and have a nice day after a woman turns us down, makes us the standup guy.
@@AmosArdent-zx6jj absolutely true, nothing you said was a lie, it's a different world from the 80's, just approaching the wrong Karen could go bad just look what happened to gym culture.
@@warrenlewis3977 I think we are allowed to smile. I don’t know where you are based, but in London, there is a free paper called Metro, you can pick it up at any train station or on the bus. On most days, there is a tiny column called Rush Hour Crush, it is full of people, both men and women, stating how they smiled at someone, how they felt there was a vibe, how they wish they spoke or exchanged number with that person on the train or bus. My point is that, we all want to make contact, but too scared of rejection or, and you are right, it could quickly escalate to something else. But we have to understand that a minority of men have caused this to happen, where women have become really scared of every man they encounter on public transport. The posters all over the stations, about harassment, are not fake alarms at all! However, it is all about the approach, time and intention. If you exchange a smile, then you say hello and have a decent chat, nothing creepy or comment about their appearance - that’s a no-no! Just chat about whatever is going on in the world, if there is a vibe, you can say I’ll like us to chat more, can we exchange numbers. This is key, can we exchange numbers is different from can I get your number. You will either get a no, I’ve a boyfriend or they’ll ask for yours and say they will call you or the actual swapping of numbers will take place.
What shocks me everytime, is that there still are more men than women on dating apps. Speaking about guys checking out. Not really. Simping should be considered a crime
I'm a fairly attractive guy, make 6 figures and live in a large metro area and I can't a single date on one of these apps. I try to meet women in person but one thing the apps have done is make it so way less women go to the bar or lounge to meet a guy because they have so many choices online. Most of them are with a group of friends and if you're alone, it's a bad angle to try and talk to a girl, especially when she's surrounded by guy friends. When I was younger, meeting girls was easy, and I had no money back then. Online dating was seen as weird. Now it's a whole different story. Regular dudes have almost zero chance in the new paradigm
This is why I stopped caring so much about dating apps, and it's why I focus on the gym and my career. Because nowadays that feels more important than searching for women
I met my wife in quite a calculated and intentional way: I joined a big airline with high selection standards as flight steward. That meant being literally surrounded by beautiful girls for nearly 3 months of training. (And every flight worked on.) Every batch was around 12 girls and 2 guys. On flights it was a similar proportion, but on A380s it was like 24-6. All were young, beautiful, and shared something with me. The dating went well in the beginning, but to be honest I was looking for more, I was looking for love. And I found my future wife quite early in the 2nd/3rd month. I was quite upfront, but back then she had someone back home. I didn't insist. We kept in minimal touch, and 8 months later we were both single, both into each other, we set a date on the first available day which was almost a month from that day, and we chatted every day for a month until that date... Then on the second date we kissed, and we never stopped... Married a year later, and 10 years later we're together, I work in IT, she's a stay at home mom, and we're going strong, with a 5 year old girl. :)
Imagine what the "someone back home" person went through. Thank you for contributing to making women feel like there will be no accountability for whatever action and decision they take (including being unfaithful and deceiving) , but that actually this leads to improvement in quality of life, dating, etc.
Dating apps are not the wave. Originally for hookups taken over by desperate women seeking relationships and then demonized it. Live in the physical world, work on yourself, enjoy your peace. Because even if you do get a match and go on a date they might not be it. Expanding your circle is a great way to find someone.
Good video! Made me finally realise that these apps are a waste of my time. I got convinced I should join and I was very active for a while, and I did get a handful of matches but all went nowhere. So from now on I'll just put all the eggs into approaches and going to fun events to meet potential women, I'm done with these apps, and not just dating apps, I mean it's all just pixles on a screen, not real life.
Totally agree with all your points. The only way to solve this dating market in balance is wait for realistic AI female robots to come out, so they all the men who cannot s3x/intimacy will be able to, and women will not be given all this free attention/validation/money and will actually lower their standards and have to put in effort to compete for men.
The reason why that is such a stupid idea is because its a band aid cure for a problem thats *a gaping wound!* which is the lack of genuine, real, human companionship. No AI sex bot will ever be able to recreate that. Wishing for robots is just a losers way to cope. Its basement dweller mentality. The real solution to the dating problem is societal. Bring back two parent homes, that wont leave children traumatized leading them to be promiscuous as adults. Champion modesty morals & values again as a society and shame & destroy any kind of sexual degenerate media/ideologies. This is a good start. Remember, women werent naturally like this. They were brainwashed into being like this through media indoctrination. Brainwashing that became twice as strong because they already came from traumatized childhoods in single mother households where those single mothers were also traumatized and brainwashed themselves (Which is often the reason they pushed the father out of the home in the first place) Address those two things and we’re well on our way to being back on track. Sadly though, thats not the agendas plans. So its only going to get worse. But sex bots wont solve shit, as We cant undo our biology and every human being wants true genuine love & companionship.
As a very very average girl, I don’t get any where close to those numbers and I do message first if I like someone. I think standards go two ways. I do agree attractive girls have a huge advantage but it’s not all girls.
there is always a certain amount of simps floating around. When you're an average guy though you will get ZERO responses. Like if you wouldn't exist. I don't think women are really capable of understanding this situation.
Dude I was a serial dater in apps. I had dozens of matches in a short time span. With that being said. 0 matches is a blessing it saved you from head ache and heartache and and possibly an std or an unwanted pregnancy.
yup. this is exxactly what i do now. no subscruptions, i just swipe to see whos in the neighbourhood now because they sure asf aint swiping on me! lool and then after several months, you get the odd 'you got a match' notification, you open the app and their first msg is, 'I dont like talking on here - can we use whatsapp?'
Don't relate to this at all. To me it's not worth it. If you're not happy, just don't date. I gave up on finding anyone with similar core values more than a decade ago. Tried going on dates exactly 3 times before that, then quit. If you keep failing, but repeat the same motions regardless, well, you know how it goes, insanity and all that.
@@gregkareem9824 It's that important? The comment wouldn't have made much sense if I was in my teens or twenties after all. I'm 36 now. Stopped dating around 23 or 24 I think.
@@ryancarrel5191 If anything it's intended to be liberating. I have absolutely no regrets. Sorry if you didn't get that, but that's you reading into it.
The whole idea behind PUA is that you start focusing on yourself, the problem is most dating advice comes down to not talking to the other sex just focusing on yourself. Also, dating apps want you to be single, so you can keep using them.
My only advice to you men is that focus on improving yourself and your yourself only because nobody is going to save you when you hit the lowest point in your life. Please focus on improving your life first!
@@mssn3166 "But it matters for us ladies cos we want our kids to be tall. 6 ft ++ is perfect." Then a lot of you are going to be in harems with an average of six other women because only 1 in 7 guys are 6' or taller.
@@Jeremy-ql1or my minimum is 5.10 though. If past a certain age, 5.9 but I’m aiming for 5.10, 6 and + is perfect. I’ve met guys who have the height I like
Idk what to think of the modern dating scene. There’s too much conflicting info coming from all sorts of different angles and our individual experiences either validate or discredit whatever discourse
That's good to be dubious about what you're being told online. Watch out for the supposed red pill sites, because they are really black pill. You're going to hear the worst of the worst about women, and these are jaded and bitter men. Of course we're all sick of feminism, but try to balance your views by looking at the other side and listening to women and what they are looking for and their issues too. It's always best to get a balance. The truth is somewhere in between. I found the worst first date story clips had interesting stories. Most the really bad stories were from women and it reminds you of what women truly are dealing w/, which is definitely not what the red pill guys are mostly saying.
Tbh as an average looking 20 year old girl I didn’t get that much attention when I was on dating apps and I even experienced some guys who ghosted me, even though I was always very deliberate about not ghosting any guys because I know how cruel and unfair it is. What happened a couple times to me is that I’d be talking to a guy for a while and they’d ask for my Instagram and I’d give it to them and then they’d stop talking to me all of a sudden which is just strange to me because I’d only use current pictures on the app so it’s not like they’d be seeing photos on my Instagram that look any different from the ones on the app- it just baffles me to no end😭😭my only theory is that my Instagram isn’t the coolest or most aesthetic and it’s basically just me posting random pictures of my bunny or honestly whatever I feel like, so maybe people can get the vibe from all that that I’m a socially awkward introvert who mainly stays inside all day and don’t like that but I don’t know🤷🏼♀️it makes me wonder what’s wrong with me because I always see these things saying that girls on dating apps could get any guy they want, but it just doesn’t match up with my own experience at all
@@Ihavenocluewhatnametouseonhere it happens . But for women aged 20+ is is so much easier, for 35+ it is more difficult than men. Age is THE attractiveness feature for women. You dont know because you have no comparison so I tell you.
@@renjiaow3742 exactly!!!! That’s what I always thought too and that’s why people who say girls can get anyone they want on dating apps confuse me because it’s soooo not true if you’re just an average looking girl😅
Idk if I’m average or not or above but, I do get matches and I don’t. The lonely hookups get old guys. Even myself like, not to flex, I’ve had a fair share of hookups on tinder and bumble but MOSTLY tinder. Tinder is a bottomless pit of sadness and loneliness. Hooking up does get old and when you don’t do it you feel odd and think something’s wrong with you but this entire time there’s nobody beside you. The clubbing, the hookups, it’s all just a waste man.
No, forget hookups. If less than 1% men gets a date, then it's just insignificant to count. It's only for female dopamine and validation, "One's self esteem transferring to another"
The problem of self improvement advice: it's the same competition as on dating apps. You think you can become this attractive dude, but it's still a race against all others, and more importantly against time. By the time you get your life tougether, you'll already be in your mid 30's and then your dating pool will be bunch of single mothers. I think the best advice for most of us, is just deal with the fact most of your life you will be on your own. Even if you find someone, remember that she's not yours, it's just your turn.
Thats true, the self improvement advice is in all places, and its good but when you get there you probably spent the majority of your youth and no one is looking for that
The problem is that its unnatural way to meet people. People fake their profiles, fake texting using ai or stolen lines, its useless for both men and women . Just go outside and meet people . Just ask for name and if shes into you she will talk to you
You're absolutely right, although i live in Russia i am currently facing exactly the same situation as you and i came to the same conclusions as you: 1) stop chasing 2) self improvement (nowadays I'm working on my physic in the gym + growing beard with your American minoxidil + mewing etc.) I think the main point is to never give up so that one day you can see the results of hard work.
Never improve yourself to get or impress women. Do It for yourself. If your going out of your way for a woman you won't find the right one. And dating apps just go on looks nothing else anyway.
self improvement to get a anywhen a 20 year long used 0815 trash woman which wanna have kids fast and a stupid nice provider... not worth especially when you missed whole your youth and young adult time
Online dating brutal. I know my worth, I know my preference, Im not gonna going on dates with girls im not interested in and Im not going to pursue girls who dont appreciate my attention. I didnt consider myself average buuut after a month on the app..thats what I am. I havent used dating apps for 8 years and I felt a significant drop in mood after I got on, I never imagined it would be this bad.
Height isn't the answer to getting women it's confidence. and confidence is competence in yourself to protect and provide for her and the family and to show her and every other guy trying to get her that your the best in terms of provision and protection. If you have enough money to take care of a family and can fight very well, you'll have all the confidence in the world which will get you the women. Looks and height are just bonuses 5%. they ain't it, it's not what gives a guy value in a womans eyes. Maybe some, but majority follow the basic Protect and Provide markers as identifiers of VALUE in a man. Women is where looks and height and all that applies too. We men are objective on what we see, Women are thinking about themselves and future offspring (egotisitcal) and sizing you up thinking is this guy the one. look at elon musk he ain't jacked, he ain't the best looking of them but he's got ambition and drive and that creates money. That's why he has so many kids. Financial Security and power through MONEY. Who would of thought he'd be a chad and have 12 kids.
You made an appeal to biology that gender roles are set in stone (i.e. men must initiate, women are incapable of initiation) but then you went on to say men are giving women too much free validation, as if men can really control this impulse. I would argue that simping is mostly wired into men as well, and I think society needs to build guard rails around human nature. These dating apps as they are currently structured shouldn't even be legal in the first place.
Not about gender but who you are as an individual. Even if it's 100% biology "programmed" this, we are also creatures of learning and adaptation, etc. You can control impulses. Even dogs can learn self-control and human minds are much more competent. And yes, biology made it that way. Love it when people blame biology for disadvantages but ignore the advantages biology also gives humans that we often don't take advantage of. I agree that the legality should be looked at, but that doesn't absolve us of making our own choices.
@@VRNocturne You give humans too much credit. As an example, ask yourself why women cannot bring themselves to date men much shorter than themselves, or why men and women are instinctually driven to be biased against men, both automatically and unconsciously. Clearly we aren't in control of many of our instincts.
Really informative vid man!! I recently re-downloaded a bunch of the main apps including Tinder, Hinge and Bumble. Spent about $500 combined because without the boosts and etc, it’s a complete waste. I get a match every 2 or 3 days I’d say on average and usually it’s a girl I’m not interested in at all. Can get pretty demoralizing for the average Joe like myself. I’m probably middle of the pack somewhere on attractiveness. I think my best bet is to go out into the wild and find a cute girl to approach and maybe you can get ahead of the hundreds in her messages. This really is a problem though and it makes sense since we as a nation are in rapid population decline.
The problem with meeting girls in the wild is that if she uses dating apps, you will just get shuffled in with those other 1000 guys and forgotten about.
@@Jeremy-ql1or nah those guys on dating apps don't all have her phone number and her iMessage also never collect a girl's number, only give her your number after vibing eliminates 90% of the stress from dealing with low interest women
Your problem is thinking you're "average" or thinking you're an x/10 on a scale. No, brother. You're a 1 of 1, piece unique. Don't sell yourself short.
For all you Asian brothers looking for love, keep working on you. I didnt get much attention until I got my doctorate and kept my myself in great physical shape. When you're in high school, every guy is at the same level socioeconomically. The separation becomes obvious in your 30s when you establish your career and all the positive traits of Asian culture pay off. Interestingly like what was said in the video, Latina women have shown the most interest in me. So if you live in a predominantly white area and you're feeling unwanted, move to a more diverse area to better your dating chances. My recommendation is Texas. A lot of beautiful Latinas there are open to dating Asians. I even think it's better than Cali
As a 5’2 30 year old guy who has been rejected and had my heart broken my entire life, I pretty much gave up. I’ve never touched a woman, never tasted the sweetness of romance and love and will more than likely die alone and depressed.
Females pretend to fight against body shaming but then go on to body shame men(height, D size, face, hair pattern etc) brutally. Whoever said female are fairer gender was either simp or dumb
There's a higher ratio of men to women on dating apps. Something like 60 or 70% men and 30-40 % women across all of them. That also plays a major factor.
You hit it out of the park with your description and prescription of/for dating apps and women. Every average dude needs to watch this and need the advice you give
I propose a test. Average guys I mean you fellas under 6’ or has a normal job. Don’t participate on these dating apps. Don’t chase women it’s weak and watch how the tables turn. Stay centered men
Bro. The way you put all that out is so smooth and easy to understand. I don't do dating apps, etc simply because I find them boring and a waste of my productive time and money but the principles you laid out apply to all women no matter the realm you may be "seeking" them. Cheers for the chat. You did well.
As a girl on dating apps I am tired of the amount of time being asked if I want to hookup. My likes might be alot but most of them do not want to date me or get to know me as a person.They're making feel like I am a protistute and unworthy of love. But yeah I agree when a guy show off a bit too strong especially when we only chatted for a few hours, I would be turn off as well.I have a guy who said he wanted to marry me although we never met...
I think that's because of redpill content. According to redpill content creators, going on dates is for "betas" and that women only want free meals and free attention on dates. They also teach that women don't need to go on dates for the men they're truly attracted to. She'll come over to your place if she wants you, no need for dating. Some of this is kind of true, as I've experience this myself. But I know not all women behave like this.
@@ramalellison9205 it’s called not being a 10 and my best conversation I’ve had have been by being mean then nice then mean somehow that gets numbers and snaps and IG
I am on a huge grind. End goal is to bench 265lbs at 165lbs bodyweight. As Derek says... the less you care the better it is. Focus on your goals and magic will happen.
As a 28 year old average-slightly above average guy I agree with you. What women will have pain realizing in the next 10-15 years is that looks fade and a hookup and a man wanting to invest in you long term are twl different things...
After elevating my life for 30 years, hearing from my female friends 'You are a good catch.' and 'How is it possible you are still single?', I also gave up on that idea. And no, stop chasing also did not work.
I think women especially see choosing someone equal to them as “settling” when in reality it’s just what needs to happen for the ecosystem to actually match people So even tho I’m going for someone equally as attractive. They all think they can do better than their “ranking”
I know that this isn't going to happen, but I wish dating apps would be 100% banned in the United States. They are causing people's self image to be vastly overinflated, and the worst part is that it translates into the real world.
Yes, I agree. 14-year relationship, 8 year marriage ended in part because of the attention my ex-wife was getting just on IG. Between that, the highest dose of SSRIs, and constant reality TV, her sense of self went to the moon, and then she filed like 2 months ago. We are in our mid 30s and just got a 500k house and pool a couple of years ago. It's bullshit man. Poisoned society. I'm higher status too, just not high enough...and I'm only 5'10 and really good looking, instead of 6'2" and extremely good looking lmao. "I'm never dating someone under 6' again," said the girl that is 5'2". Fml
Im indian too. I got about 50 matches in the first month on tinder when I moved to a new city just outside of Houston, TX in the beginning of December. If you would have told me I would get this, I would have said thats awesome! A few girls even opened. What came out of it? All ghosted after a while or when I suggested a date. 0 dates as of March 2024. Im 6'1'' and used a shirtless pic for the first pic (im in good shape with a six pack). Now the matches are slowing down and its pretty much over. Ive given up. Unless a girl messages/opens first in person or online with high enthusiasm, Im done pursuing. Im focusing on intimidation maxxing now for life in general and trying to get as jacked as possible to at least be physically dominating in public to show all the people that think indians are weak and feeble that if they fuck with me, they'll get beat up. It is what it is and life goes on...
@@VR-oy3fu how a currycel like you gets matches in the first place, except for with your own race, is beyond my understanding. I'm saying this as a brown rice-cel
I’m 6 foot and weight 230 but I’m bulky. Make 70k a year and have my own place and a nice car and a few pets. No drug habit and I work out. I can’t even get a single mom with 4 kids and 2 baby daddies to be interested in me……like what? Lmao
Im a woman. I used dating apps once and got a lot of attention but it was fake because in the real world I get rejected all the time . Wait how do you find intimate partners? I’m c libate because I can’t find a man to save my life and I won’t use dating apps ever again
Not to be facetious, but I'm not normal or average and it's damn near impossible. Take care of yourself gents, it'll be much more bearable and you'll learn to have so much fun via your hobbies (I get to go play World War II during the summer) and my depression is almost a non issue with exercise. Hang tough and God Bless!
Oh, my gawd this man is lit! Everything this guy says as blunt as it is is 100% true. This guy has said what all of us has wanted to say on dating apps!
online dating is fkd up, better to approach in real life that is what i learned. Most guys don't approach girls in public anymore so you got a big advantage over guys on dating apps and social media
thats actually true; with the rise of social media and technology, people would much rather dm or message from the comfort behind a screen than actually go up to a girl
Boy, you are not wrong. Ive been on dating apps for just a few weeks and its brutalizing. Unless you're tall, and have money you're gonna have a hard time.
Here's my experience. I'm an average guy (5'9, average looks) and I was on dating apps for 7 years, and in those 7 years I did not get one single date. I rarely even got matches (maybe one match every two months, if that), and when I did the match would stop responding after a brief conversation, every single time. So yeah, these apps 100% do not work. I cannot advise against these apps enough, all they do is wreck your confidence.
It's 4 AM right now where I live and I've been jumping back and forth in my head as to whether or not I should go on dating apps... and I found this video. Already kinda knew what to expect since I've done my fair share of research here and there... so, wasn't surprised by the conclusions. I guess my mind is just trying to cope really hard lately with just how lonely it is being a guy in this day and age. Feels like all I ever do is wake up, eat, work/workout, sleep, and all that, once again, by the time I wake up. It's been bugging me how I'm supposed to figure out where I can find a proper path in the relationship scene. And I've ran out of options when it comes to my immediate social circle. My short-lived experiences with trying to court women only ended up in me getting ghosted and heartbroken. Maybe I just have to push through the pain and keep doing what I'm already doing and let things run its course naturally... but I truly fear that I'll only end up rotting and alone, maybe having built an alright career... for no one. Who knows? Maybe I'm too nihilistic, and, someday, I'll find the right gal who I'll end up marrying and raising a family with. But, as of writing all this, all that sounds like wishful thinking at best.
I feel you man I’m in the same boat. Everyday is the same: wake up, work, eat, sleep repeat. It’s just so damn meaningless. Nobody to come home too or work hard for. It’s a lonely and sad life.
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Reminds me of a quote I saw once:
"If you spend your time chasing butterflies, they'll fly away.
But if you spend your time building a beautiful garden, the butterflies will come.
And if they don't, you still have your beautiful garden."
thats actually a really beautiful quote, definitely gonna remeber that one
Sitting alone in that beautiful garden doesn't seem nice to me. Actually, not 'seem', but 'is'. I háve a beautiful garden. It attracts butterflies, but no girls.
@@athgowla687a garden for girls is a ferrari and a diamond chain
@@athgowla687 idk if you already did but try to pray about it.
@@LemonGreen-i7mThoughts and prayers. If it works equally as it doesn't for victims of mass shootings...
I get about 2 likes a week. I am 6'1', 180 lbs, and I have a 4 year Engineering degree and a well paying job. I am regularly ghosted by broke single moms. It is crazy.
how 😂
Dude I was thinking to myself “ if I could be 6 foot and make a 200k I could finally find a wife and marry .” Guess that’s a joke .
@@rylandwarren9928I am 189cm make six fig and more much more. Master's degree. Literally single digit likes lol
last sentences made me cry broski i fell ya
I’m the same as you except I’m from Holland. Maintenance engineer.
Same shit.
women:
-give the shortest possible responses to everything
-contribute nothing to the conversation
-ghost the guy for being boring
BIG FACTS!
But it's mostly women that don't know how to engage in a conversation. @@ID_Scarlet
@@ID_Scarlet no Just you woman are shallow and boring
That's Life - Frank Sinatra Become a Rich , hot famous Celeb like DiCaprio and watch how her face changes to "Doggy Dinner Bowl" look.
Why are they being gay
Dating as an “average guy” online is like Batman trying to physically take on Darkseid.
he did that... but not everyone's batman....
@@slopyardjoe yeah and he had to get some specialized suit for that. Take it away and.. y’know
Lmao pretty accurate
Hahaha savage comic simile
😂😂😂
The biggest problem is that a lot of low value women now believe they deserve a high value man due to all this attention. I've seen women with 3+ kids, no degree, low income job talking about wanting a 1% man.
Yeah dating apps have made some women very entitled.. Because they get so many matches and men outnumber women by a significant margin in almost all of them. It makes sense to be picky of course, but within your means.
A woman that was about 40 years old, “Indian” but looked Italian. Location “Orlando, Florida” said she earns a lot of money, business owner, and is looking for a Multimillionaire to marry to “split the bills” 😂. Explicitly stated “no offense” to other men but it is what it is. The confidence on that woman was BIZARRE.
Conservation went like:
Me: The odds of getting a rich man is very low.
Her: You never know
Me: It’s too late now, you should have gotten that rich dude in your 20’s!
Her: How rude!! 🤬🤬😡😡😡😡
She was angry
Yeah, exactly right man. Low value women looking for something they don't deserve, and 99% of them on dating apps are a real life mess. Social media has destroyed everything.
@@sselemaNrM they have always been entitled they are now just more open about it
@@lionedheart hence why most men are retreating to video games and masturbation
100% of women today want the same men. Top 1%.
Soon it will be .00001
@@KyxLimitlessSoon? It already is mate.
read my comment! yup agreed.
And they cry to be cheated by the top1%... 😂
100% 🤣. That's an ultimate statement. There are so many average looking girls with average looking guys. In fact that is most couples I see. I would say definitely not 100%
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yea, I checked out of dating. maybe if I meet someone in person, but nah, I aint doing any online shiiiiit. dating to marry in this culture sucks man. i really like your last point about stopping the chase and taking time to think about the kinda woman you wanna marry, and becoming the kind of man that SHE would want
yeah its kind of like im good off the modern dating scene but still idealistic about love through building myself up
I met a girl like this, she was talking to multiple other guys and kept making it seem like she was interested. In my experience, most women my age act high schooly. That said I still hear rumors that she never did get over it as we had a one-night stand.
Rather talk to women in real life buddy and hit the gym get ur style up ur money up ur confidence. It's an actual date that u on . U will see they won't reject u
@@jaundremarais8787 They might "reject" you in that you think it's a rejection, but they're actually just testing you. It's immature, but it happens, see above.
@KRYMauL bro I said when u talk to a women in real life it's an actual date coz u like what u see . U can go interact and make new friends all that she can say is she does have a bf. But this will boost ur communication skills !!! Or u can just stay on dating apps and wish or hope for match from a fat overweight ugly single mom who is playing games with u .
In real life a women will never b rude with u .she will still tell u politely she does have sum1 . Unless she's a total bitter asshole
This has a very comfy vibe for what is essentially a black pill video lmao
lmao actually i can see that
Given Derek, an average looking guy, said he got 7 to 12 matches per day... that's hardly evidence of the black pill.
Had Derek got zero to 5 matches in three months...that's proof of a black pill reality. This video is the complete opposite of black pill.
@@YTguySmithy-lk6go how many of those matches led to dates?
And how many of those dates were marriage material?@@EpicMinecraftFail
then essentially the black pill is a pretty comfy realistic worldview that explains the life alot of men are living
Bruh, the first 2,000 rejections are just a warm up
funniest comment
LOL
😂😂😂😂
A lot of these problems are actually because of men.
Women desire attention. Men these days throw it out non-stop (Social media, simping, OF, etc). Stop giving attention to people who don't deserve it and learn to walk away the second you're disrespected.
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This will never happen as sex is wanted by every man and they're always ready to do anything possible just to get sex! This is why men rape and pay for onlyfans as they want sex but they're unable to get attention and this market is never going to die. You can just remove these guys from being called men but they're still men in the eyes of the world
100%
If men were being chased like the majority of women are, there wouldn't be a problem. The men are not asking for ridiculous expectations like 6 ft, six figures and a six pack. Men are more family driven, that's why when we make more money we say now I can start a family. "Women:" Now I have to find someone that makes more money than me. Men don't care if the woman comes from nothing. It's clear 70 to 80 percent of divorces are initiated by women. This is why only 6 out of 1000 men are getting married these days.
If men were being chased like the majority of women are, there wouldn't be a problem. The men are not asking for ridiculous expectations like 6 ft, six figures and a six pack. Men are more family driven, that's why when we make more money we say now I can start a family. "Women:" Now I have to find someone that makes more money than me. Men don't care if the woman comes from nothing. It's clear 70 to 80 percent of divorces are initiated by women. This is why only 6 out of 1000 men are getting married these days.
The best is when you're messaging a girl on a dating app and she asks for your instagram, sees that you don't have a lot of followers and then ghosts you.
broo i literally talk about the same thing in my video about loneliness; ive had girls ghost when i tell them i dont have ig 💀
@@Dereksilver0 Happens to me a lot. I think it's because they either think we're losers with no friends, or they think that we are cheating on our gfs and that's why we won't give out the IG.
Had a date with a girl and she said she almost didnt meet me because she thought it was creepy that I only had 25 followers.
Bruuuutal
@@Dereksilver0 there was a time 10 years when having IG was a red flag cuz the guy would be following other girls. If he didn’t have IG, that meant he wasn’t looking at girls on there 😅
As someone who has stopped chasing for a while now, I've been the best person that I've ever been. Self reflecting and improving is key.
cope
Cope Harder. You are simply trying to deal with the fact you will never be able to propagate your genes.
Sound like u gave up
Wack off much?
It’s not giving up, he sees the world of how it is
there's also a phenomena where the more options you're given the more you regret the decision you made -- with the grape jam example, with only 2 options you would feel confident in your choice -- with 200 options, once you finally make your decision, after a while you will begin to regret it and think the grass is greener with one of the other options you didn't pick
thats a good point, i actually havent thought of that before 🤔
@@Dereksilver0 it's called Overchoice or choice overload
Paradox of choice. There's an actual book on it.
Women can get 12 messages per day from different guys and one can be more richer, prettier, older or younger than the other one. There is literally no reason for them to ever stop this train until looks will fade
@@nickem6556ur everywhere
Great discussion big dawg.
As an average man in the USA, I will give 0 attention/validation to these modern women. Whether its online or in person they just don't deserve my money, time, or personal feelings.
I found a passion in traveling the world, pretty soon I will be in country # 20( not a passport bro!).
In addition I focus on growing my business, reading, hitting the gym, being healthy, becoming the best version of myself. Whether or not women show interest, I am happy being single and accomplishing my personal goals!
keep goin up bro🚀🙏🏽
That's the goal
You telling the truth man these women in America aitn shit it's time to move on get a woman that not only looks good but has the drive to build with you, good personality and loves you for you unlike these American women.
this 🎉🎉🎉
Bro, hostess at a restaurant asked me to take her number, we grabbed coffee the next day. The following day this b said she needed a new winter coat and asked if I wanted to buy it for her 😂
💀how bad was she 👀
@@Dereksilver0 Not bad enough 😎
Bruh
Women love to do this mess. Lmfao it’s like naw? Who do you think I am? 😂
Tell her after 6 hours of bedroom fun.
2 years straight dating apps all closed. Say goodbye.
Dang how much did it cost yoh im curious
@@brandonsupreme8380 I hardly spent over 100 for 3 years before I closed. Most I join are free.
@@brandonsupreme8380 I didn't spend too much because none of them reply back.
if relationships cant be formed from dating apps how are we supposed to find a gf
@brandonsupreme8380 don't remember. I didn't spend much due to most don't match with me.
I completely gave up and officially retired from dating. It’s such a bunch of bullshit
fax 💯‼️‼️‼️
What exactly have you tried that hasn’t worked?
Dating apps don't work anymore you have to pay for everything, and I personally can't meet any in person because I'm not outgoing and confident enough.
@@Someguy0525 Confidence comes from getting rejected over and over funny enough. Fear of rejection is much greater than the rejection itself. And alcohol always works.
@@zuesjackrussell9675 Rejection is the worst thing when you have low self esteem lol.
The height thing is a weird modern issue. I’m not even short but it’s so off putting. You will be talking with a girl for days and right before the date 50% of them will ask me how tall I am. I know if I was short they would just cancel the date, and these are girls who have invested time talking to me not girls I just opened.
Dont the apps require you to put your height when creating a profile? Why do the girls even ask
@@bro918 Not all. I believe tinder doesn't. I think Hinge requires you to put your height but I've never used it so I can't confirm.
@@bro918 It's optional. Never a must. The only musts are age (legal reasons) and "name" (you can use a fake, and I've seen plenty ofr girls who just use the first letter of their name)
Honestly, I'm like 5'9/10 and I just openly have mine on my profile, if a girl says no she was superficial or/and very tall and wanted a man taller than her which is reasonable anyway; no loss for me.
That being said I've had girls I've dated ask me and they've openly mentioned preferring 6 ft+ and it's never been an issue.
I prefer D/DD+ busts, guess what? all my long term exes were busty, that being said, I had a ONS with a B cup, I've openly flirted with girls I found cute and fun to be around whom were B's too. It's a preference and that's okay.
It ceases to be okay when the standards are too high. E.g. "I only date 6ft+" for a girl who is 5 ft, is stupid. I however would say a girl being 5'10 and saying that if reasonable, since she wants a man taller than her.
Same for men, "I want a girl with big boobs" > Average in their country is a C let's say, girl is a C or a D > They're not a DD or E >:( NO DEAL.
Both happen, and it is from inflated senses of "what can I get".
Had women swipe right on me on tinder. We would be in full blown convo messaging, they saying im handsome, that we have things in common. Ask em bout height and crickets, then minutes later im unmatched. One woman told how she was looking for a friend, last guy cheated etc etc.. height brought up, and I was unmatched in 90secs.. or some make the excuse I was just swiping, even though my height was listed
Every single woman I have ever pursued or had dealings with asked me my height. Pure npc vibes.
Dating apps should be deleted off the internet.
Love this video mate.
So I also conducted a similar experiment with a 9/10 white male model and a 9/10 white female model.
The female model got 100 likes a day for 5 days straight
The male model averaged 2-5 likes a day.
The crazier part was that the white male model did very similar to me, which was actually a massive confidence boost.
That being said, I’ve still struggled to find anything meaningful on the apps x
Women can usually tell when a profile is fake vs men
Woman that are looking for meaningful relationships have just as hard a time as men finding them. I've always heard that more men than women go on the dating sites, and that's part of the reason that women get so much more attention. Plus, like the guy acknowledged, it's part of male nature to pursue. I was a young looking, slim and a bit above average mid 40's women when I last was online. I got lots of mail and clicks and all that, but a heck of a lot was younger men looking for a cougar hookup. So many guys would send likes instead of message, or attempt to chat. Then there was lots of creepy guys just looking to get laid and wanting video hookups and sexting kind of correspondence. Lots of players, lots of too bold and no sense w/ women. It wasn't about money or the best looking or best resources. I wanted an average guy who had a healthy idea about women, dating and relationships. That was still pretty hard to find. I made a few friends that would ask my advice and help, and was ready to just delete my account in defeat, when a sweet, awkward and shy man, that still had confidence and knew that he wanted to settle down came along and was persistent and consistent enough to get me to date him.
@@saintejeannedarc9460 better be seen as sexually attractive than as a cockroach when you're a man below 4 on the looks scale
@@saintejeannedarc9460proof ?
@@saintejeannedarc9460 Women who look for meaningful relationships on OLD also fish for the best value man. I very recently went out with someone who wanted to take it slow and build a relationship, which I was 100% on board with as I'm not the type to take pleasure in chasing. The date went extremely well, our lifestyles were very similar, our passions were 1:1. We even set up a second date afterwards. Not even a week later (3-4 days after the date), she sends a message telling me she found someone better. Capitalism and internet technology has corrupted the concept of love and courtship, both of which require time. Everything is taken as face value. Nobody has the patience to know a person properly. They look at the appearances (looks, hobbies, lifestyle) and make their judgement after the first 3-5 hours of knowing the person.
I think that something that is overlooked a lot by us men is realizing when it's time to put yourself in situations where you'll be able to meet girls that have similar interests as yourself.
I'm a 26yo with 2 jobs with a great income, athletic, with friends, savings, mature, outgoing and easygoing but I've been so focused on bettering myself that I didn't even look for dating opportunities because I thought the "right one" would just fall in my arms. Like everything in life, if you want it, go and get it. So this year I'm getting into dance and cooking classes, boxing gym, going on trips, maybe a running group...and yeah some dating apps here and there but put yourself in situations where you'll have the opportunity to meet someone that has similar interests as you, this makes the approach much more natural.
Great point 💯 and an underrated approach that isnt really heard as much
Just a heads up, all those classes and activities you are planning on joining are going to have signs up and maybe even make you sign something that says you understand this is not the place to try to meet women and get dates.
@@Jeremy-ql1or well the same can be said about dating apps in terms of sign-up fees if you really want them to "work" and at the end of the day you're really just throwing money at the wall and seeing if it sticks. Yeah I might pay 100$ for dance classes and I might not meet a girl but at least I still get a return on my investment because I'll know how to dance and that could give me more opportunities. As for the waiver, I mean you shouldn't go do an activity with the soul purpose of approaching woman, you should have an actual interest in the activity, you'll come out more genuine and in the example of dance classes, physical contact is kind of mandatory so might as well start talking with who you're dancing with.
My point is just to put yourself in the right environment to meet the type of person you want.
@@Jeremy-ql1orI don't see how they could enforce it tho, just play your cards slowly and don't be too forward. You could always say you were just being friendly. If she doesn't show much interest early, keep spinning plates with others in the class.
This is exactly what you are supposed to do. The more activities you yourself like that you know women will in their own way come to, the higher the odds (no guarantees cause it's life) you can meet someone that really digs you.
It's not easy though.
Idk, my viewpoint is a little different. I mostly ONLY date women who message me first or show very high interest, but most women I’ve met in dating apps have problems, low self esteem, BPD, baby daddies that make so they have to sneak talk to me, that’s why I don’t reccomend it. Luckily I happened to find a regular women on there, her only baggage is she’s been cheated on but it’s starting to come together now, hopefully
love hearing success stories, best of luck bro
And those women are always below you in looks so there is total outcome independence.
The worst part is that dating apps give you limited likes unless you buy premium. So it limits your potential matches, if any at all.
Everything you say is so true. But damn. As a 38 yo guy who is starting over dating, going back on the online dating apps and dealing with all of this makes me want to vomit
its not impossible though; but you definitely gotta maneuver through some bs lol
The dating apps are full of busted people. Imagine the women you can meet who are outside and NOT on social media.
Even the ones outside are busted. Just focus on you and enjoy the decline.
@@Rn-pp9et Agreed, focusing on self health, both physically and mentally is the top priority.
People too afraid to get rejected in person nowadays, sadly 🙃
I blame social media for changing that mindset of online presence vs going outside and talking to someone. 🙃
Trust me there are plenty psycho chicks outside too
Lmao
Im average also and have been on dating apps for 4 years.
Zero matches and zero dates
yeah im 5,7, it was a dead end
i’m 6’2” n still can’t get women they ALL WANT THE SAME THING
5’9” and girls ask me out in real life. It got me thinking I was good-looking. In reality, I’m like a 6/10. Zero matches. I got 2 likes from one trashy looking girl and one super ugly girl.
are you white@@SVAgxlxxi
The 80/20 rule still applies in real life simply because most men won’t approach, on the apps it’s like 98/2 at the minimum.
Out of all videos based on this topic, this is the best. You've covered nearly everything and made it so well said.
I think another video idea would be visually showcasing the results girls get on these apps, like what sort of dudes are matching them, etc, like the things you mentioned in this video that you saw in the experiment.
Also maybe another video discussing some solutions we can do to better navigate this modern online dating world, if any.
Women who get all that attention but still complain about their dating woes should be shamed
"women should be shamed" - average modern male wondering why noone wants him
they will choose a 9/10 chad out of their 200 daily matches, get railed and dumped then complain on reddit how all the men just want sex and abuse them. LMAO
That assumes they are being held accountable for something
Simps really screwed this dating game
Not simps, human biology.
You should experience starving and then you will see how you will simp for any dirty chewed food
Simps helped me make $70k in less than a year on my OF lmao 😂😅(jk)
@@user-oq3wt9rz8h dirty chewed food lol have some self-respect.
@@user-oq3wt9rz8hshut up simp, it's not like you get girls anyways
I'm leaving dating apps alone. Meeting other single people at events is where its at.
You have a great attitude. I also love how you say, "single people", instead of women, which to the red pill crowd, is generally a slur now.
@saintejeannedarc9460 Well, I'm technically bi😅, hence the "people".🤭
If you’re having trouble in dating apps it’s a very clear reality check that you’re a undesirable man to females.
Online dating = real life.
if only everyone in genz wasn’t antisocial and hated every human interaction
I think the most important thing to note out of all of this is. Dating apps work on an algorithm. They want you paying for every feature. 10 years ago when dating apps were not so heavily algo based it was like fishing with dynamite for everyone. People, think really long and hard. They don’t want you to ever leave these apps. You are literally and I mean quite literally paying for nothing. If two people matched so easily, it wouldn’t be the business it is. I would even argue they don’t want you meeting people. It’s literally paying for something they don’t deliver
IT NEVER GETS BETTER
Never
@@bmorehemi392details on the car? That thing looks nice
No shit Sherlock
Thank you so much for making this video. I had the same experience on those apps, and really felt terrible not only about myself but also about women in general. Only after quitting those apps I realized, neither I am so bad nor are women in general. Its just the nature of the beast that those apps create in the heads of both and women. The longer that beast has lived in someone's head, the more hard it would do to that person. Another thing I can relate with you was the short attention span of women on those apps. A person like me who takes one or two days to respond to text messages anyway can never survive in such an environment. Those apps are good only for those top 10% men, but for the rest of us mere mortals its terrible !
Get off of social media and dating apps immediately. Go outside and do what you love. Social media and dating apps can be toxic.
Don't love anything just need a girl since I was 16 like everyone else, now over 30 with gray hair and forever alone. FUCK OF ANYTHING
Real life is a waste too
@@morgenholz7937If you get rejected on social media a text message on her phone wont be any different.
@@StevenThibault-qo7kr Delete yourself if that's how you feel.
Lol that doesn't work either ! Women turn out at stuff is nothing
My ratio is around 30 to 1. For every 30 messages I send, I get a message back. I'm financially independent, I'm 6', I'm handy and I travel. I have an IQ of 147.
I'm around a six on the handsome scale.
I'm a man. I open doors, I take care of my family, my neighbors, I retired (medically from the military) at 32. I own the home I built myself. I pay for things because I'm uncomfortable with a woman paying.
30 to 1.
hey, remember when dating someone online was considered weird and creepy? Pepperidge farmer remembers.
I think mainstream feminism thinks dating apps are safer for women somehow.
@noobsmoke79 It's not that it's safe. It gives women more control over men.
Okcupid in 2015 was the shit. Was getting tons of dates easily
😂😂 Pepperridge farm
Remember when you hit that guy in your car and just drove off?
@@JohnPickup-CDHS-ze6qd Pepperidge farms ain’t gonna keep it to Pepperidge farms self free of charge. Maybe you buy some of our cookies and this whole this just disappears.
Im a 57 year old New Yorker, back in the 80'-90's dudes had to physically approach a chick. Try that today you might catch a charge.
It depends on what you say or do. No one ever gets arrested for being respectful and courteous. And we men should learn how to take rejections. Yes, it hurts, but saying thank you and have a nice day after a woman turns us down, makes us the standup guy.
@@AmosArdent-zx6jj absolutely true, nothing you said was a lie, it's a different world from the 80's, just approaching the wrong Karen could go bad just look what happened to gym culture.
@@AmosArdent-zx6jj "why are you looking at me for a millisecond too long?" Ahhhhhhhhh!!! POLICE!!!!!!
@@warrenlewis3977 I think we are allowed to smile. I don’t know where you are based, but in London, there is a free paper called Metro, you can pick it up at any train station or on the bus. On most days, there is a tiny column called Rush Hour Crush, it is full of people, both men and women, stating how they smiled at someone, how they felt there was a vibe, how they wish they spoke or exchanged number with that person on the train or bus.
My point is that, we all want to make contact, but too scared of rejection or, and you are right, it could quickly escalate to something else. But we have to understand that a minority of men have caused this to happen, where women have become really scared of every man they encounter on public transport. The posters all over the stations, about harassment, are not fake alarms at all!
However, it is all about the approach, time and intention. If you exchange a smile, then you say hello and have a decent chat, nothing creepy or comment about their appearance - that’s a no-no! Just chat about whatever is going on in the world, if there is a vibe, you can say I’ll like us to chat more, can we exchange numbers. This is key, can we exchange numbers is different from can I get your number. You will either get a no, I’ve a boyfriend or they’ll ask for yours and say they will call you or the actual swapping of numbers will take place.
Saying that you might catch a charge by approaching a woman is what men who are too afraid to approach women say to cope with their inability.
What shocks me everytime, is that there still are more men than women on dating apps. Speaking about guys checking out. Not really. Simping should be considered a crime
There’s more women then men on dating apps and it’s proven
At least talk to them irl. giving compliments to women online is for cornballs
Men are just more replaceable. That simple
If you don’t try to get a date or a gf aka simping then it ain’t gonna happen. You just gotta endure the bs of rejection til something works
@@harrymejia2837 desperate and replaceable. Sad
My plan is to Get my fishing license and learn to swim this summer. Oh DATING? yeah idk about that one dog
I'm a fairly attractive guy, make 6 figures and live in a large metro area and I can't a single date on one of these apps. I try to meet women in person but one thing the apps have done is make it so way less women go to the bar or lounge to meet a guy because they have so many choices online. Most of them are with a group of friends and if you're alone, it's a bad angle to try and talk to a girl, especially when she's surrounded by guy friends. When I was younger, meeting girls was easy, and I had no money back then. Online dating was seen as weird. Now it's a whole different story. Regular dudes have almost zero chance in the new paradigm
This is why I stopped caring so much about dating apps, and it's why I focus on the gym and my career. Because nowadays that feels more important than searching for women
He is actually quite good looking
you a guy?
@@fantasy8833 Yes
@Kai_Stone
No the harsh truth is he looks just better than you.
@Kai_Stone”the only way this guy had a chance was because of the liberals” 😂 people will inject politics into anything.
@@Japhufr. people just be hating. Like no dude he probably looks better than you stop it 😂
I met my wife in quite a calculated and intentional way: I joined a big airline with high selection standards as flight steward.
That meant being literally surrounded by beautiful girls for nearly 3 months of training. (And every flight worked on.)
Every batch was around 12 girls and 2 guys. On flights it was a similar proportion, but on A380s it was like 24-6. All were young, beautiful, and shared something with me.
The dating went well in the beginning, but to be honest I was looking for more, I was looking for love. And I found my future wife quite early in the 2nd/3rd month.
I was quite upfront, but back then she had someone back home. I didn't insist. We kept in minimal touch, and 8 months later we were both single, both into each other, we set a date on the first available day which was almost a month from that day, and we chatted every day for a month until that date... Then on the second date we kissed, and we never stopped... Married a year later, and 10 years later we're together, I work in IT, she's a stay at home mom, and we're going strong, with a 5 year old girl. :)
that's a bit weird
Bro, this is the weirdest comment i've been reading since my 20 years of internet. I'm literally crying now
Imagine what the "someone back home" person went through. Thank you for contributing to making women feel like there will be no accountability for whatever action and decision they take (including being unfaithful and deceiving) , but that actually this leads to improvement in quality of life, dating, etc.
@@mark_yt91stop eating garlic or onion 😂😂😂
lolololololololololololololololol
Dating apps are not the wave. Originally for hookups taken over by desperate women seeking relationships and then demonized it. Live in the physical world, work on yourself, enjoy your peace. Because even if you do get a match and go on a date they might not be it. Expanding your circle is a great way to find someone.
Good video! Made me finally realise that these apps are a waste of my time. I got convinced I should join and I was very active for a while, and I did get a handful of matches but all went nowhere. So from now on I'll just put all the eggs into approaches and going to fun events to meet potential women, I'm done with these apps, and not just dating apps, I mean it's all just pixles on a screen, not real life.
That's the attitude I need
I think I'm gonna die alone
Better than being with someone who cheats on you
Doesnt mean your whole life has to be a sad song.
alot of people in the same boat
Better than dying with a leech bro .
Same bro
Totally agree with all your points. The only way to solve this dating market in balance is wait for realistic AI female robots to come out, so they all the men who cannot s3x/intimacy will be able to, and women will not be given all this free attention/validation/money and will actually lower their standards and have to put in effort to compete for men.
The reason why that is such a stupid idea is because its a band aid cure for a problem thats *a gaping wound!* which is the lack of genuine, real, human companionship. No AI sex bot will ever be able to recreate that.
Wishing for robots is just a losers way to cope. Its basement dweller mentality.
The real solution to the dating problem is societal. Bring back two parent homes, that wont leave children traumatized leading them to be promiscuous as adults.
Champion modesty morals & values again as a society and shame & destroy any kind of sexual degenerate media/ideologies. This is a good start. Remember, women werent naturally like this. They were brainwashed into being like this through media indoctrination. Brainwashing that became twice as strong because they already came from traumatized childhoods in single mother households where those single mothers were also traumatized and brainwashed themselves (Which is often the reason they pushed the father out of the home in the first place) Address those two things and we’re well on our way to being back on track. Sadly though, thats not the agendas plans. So its only going to get worse. But sex bots wont solve shit, as We cant undo our biology and every human being wants true genuine love & companionship.
The dating market, just like any market, is always in balance. Equilibrium, economics 101.
We will be dead soon before that happens, and even if we werent, how much will it cost?
@@2Gales I love economics
Lol who says the market is Always in balance ? Never heard of supply demand ? Really?@@2Gales
As a very very average girl, I don’t get any where close to those numbers and I do message first if I like someone. I think standards go two ways. I do agree attractive girls have a huge advantage but it’s not all girls.
there is always a certain amount of simps floating around. When you're an average guy though you will get ZERO responses. Like if you wouldn't exist. I don't think women are really capable of understanding this situation.
Dude I was a serial dater in apps. I had dozens of matches in a short time span. With that being said. 0 matches is a blessing it saved you from head ache and heartache and and possibly an std or an unwanted pregnancy.
This is what these dudes don’t understand 😂 they think a wife with a bouquet of flowers is on the other side
@@raskult They're getting desperate and unfortunately think a woman is gonna fix their life. Nope, it's just another head ache.
That’s such a cope lol
Dang ok, this made me feel better 😂. The real thing is to not even care. Swipe only when u just bored fr
yup. this is exxactly what i do now. no subscruptions, i just swipe to see whos in the neighbourhood now because they sure asf aint swiping on me! lool and then after several months, you get the odd 'you got a match' notification, you open the app and their first msg is, 'I dont like talking on here - can we use whatsapp?'
Don't relate to this at all. To me it's not worth it. If you're not happy, just don't date. I gave up on finding anyone with similar core values more than a decade ago. Tried going on dates exactly 3 times before that, then quit. If you keep failing, but repeat the same motions regardless, well, you know how it goes, insanity and all that.
How old are you now ?
U didn't answer the question
@@gregkareem9824 It's that important? The comment wouldn't have made much sense if I was in my teens or twenties after all. I'm 36 now. Stopped dating around 23 or 24 I think.
lol wtf I dont need to hear this pessimistic attitude. Cant believe I stumbled upon this bs. Foh
@@ryancarrel5191 If anything it's intended to be liberating. I have absolutely no regrets. Sorry if you didn't get that, but that's you reading into it.
The whole idea behind PUA is that you start focusing on yourself, the problem is most dating advice comes down to not talking to the other sex just focusing on yourself. Also, dating apps want you to be single, so you can keep using them.
My only advice to you men is that focus on improving yourself and your yourself only because nobody is going to save you when you hit the lowest point in your life. Please focus on improving your life first!
Pornography is "free", but you pay with your soul.
💯
So corny 😂😂😂
@@jonathanjohnson9611 okay gooner
@@jonathanjohnson9611beat your meat lose your vitality
You actually pay with money.
In Washington DC I've had ladies reject me for being too short. I'm 5'11. Does not matter in the chick is only 4'8.
5.11 is fine, don't worry. But it matters for us ladies cos we want our kids to be tall. 6 ft ++ is perfect.
@@mssn3166 I don't want kids and have been very open about that for years.
@@mssn3166 you are stuрid if it's matters to you
@@mssn3166
"But it matters for us ladies cos we want our kids to be tall. 6 ft ++ is perfect."
Then a lot of you are going to be in harems with an average of six other women because only 1 in 7 guys are 6' or taller.
@@Jeremy-ql1or my minimum is 5.10 though. If past a certain age, 5.9 but I’m aiming for 5.10, 6 and + is perfect. I’ve met guys who have the height I like
Maybe I was thinking we could save the expensive restaurant for like the 10th or 12th date.
That sounds perfectly sensible.
@@saintejeannedarc9460it’s sensible but wont get you anywhere with all these other simps out here giving her 10000% up front just cause he met her
More like the never, unless we officially a couple.
Idk what to think of the modern dating scene. There’s too much conflicting info coming from all sorts of different angles and our individual experiences either validate or discredit whatever discourse
That's good to be dubious about what you're being told online. Watch out for the supposed red pill sites, because they are really black pill. You're going to hear the worst of the worst about women, and these are jaded and bitter men. Of course we're all sick of feminism, but try to balance your views by looking at the other side and listening to women and what they are looking for and their issues too. It's always best to get a balance. The truth is somewhere in between. I found the worst first date story clips had interesting stories. Most the really bad stories were from women and it reminds you of what women truly are dealing w/, which is definitely not what the red pill guys are mostly saying.
25 years on dating apps with zero matches and zero dates. I knew I was ugly and a total loser but this one sets in hard.
Tbh as an average looking 20 year old girl I didn’t get that much attention when I was on dating apps and I even experienced some guys who ghosted me, even though I was always very deliberate about not ghosting any guys because I know how cruel and unfair it is. What happened a couple times to me is that I’d be talking to a guy for a while and they’d ask for my Instagram and I’d give it to them and then they’d stop talking to me all of a sudden which is just strange to me because I’d only use current pictures on the app so it’s not like they’d be seeing photos on my Instagram that look any different from the ones on the app- it just baffles me to no end😭😭my only theory is that my Instagram isn’t the coolest or most aesthetic and it’s basically just me posting random pictures of my bunny or honestly whatever I feel like, so maybe people can get the vibe from all that that I’m a socially awkward introvert who mainly stays inside all day and don’t like that but I don’t know🤷🏼♀️it makes me wonder what’s wrong with me because I always see these things saying that girls on dating apps could get any guy they want, but it just doesn’t match up with my own experience at all
you are not average as a 20 years old you are top you are in your prime.
@@juliannaruffini but then how come people have ghosted me before?
@@Ihavenocluewhatnametouseonhere it happens . But for women aged 20+ is is so much easier, for 35+ it is more difficult than men. Age is THE attractiveness feature for women. You dont know because you have no comparison so I tell you.
Attractiveness plays a massive role in dating apps. If they aren’t initially attracted to you physically then it most likely won’t go anywhere.
@@renjiaow3742 exactly!!!! That’s what I always thought too and that’s why people who say girls can get anyone they want on dating apps confuse me because it’s soooo not true if you’re just an average looking girl😅
I love your content it is pure wisdom, real-life experiences and profound knowledge.
tryin my best haha i appreciate it
Idk if I’m average or not or above but, I do get matches and I don’t. The lonely hookups get old guys. Even myself like, not to flex, I’ve had a fair share of hookups on tinder and bumble but MOSTLY tinder. Tinder is a bottomless pit of sadness and loneliness. Hooking up does get old and when you don’t do it you feel odd and think something’s wrong with you but this entire time there’s nobody beside you. The clubbing, the hookups, it’s all just a waste man.
dating apps are just hookup apps from experience no love just lust.
basically lol
No, forget hookups. If less than 1% men gets a date, then it's just insignificant to count. It's only for female dopamine and validation, "One's self esteem transferring to another"
The problem of self improvement advice: it's the same competition as on dating apps.
You think you can become this attractive dude, but it's still a race against all others, and more importantly against time.
By the time you get your life tougether, you'll already be in your mid 30's and then your dating pool will be bunch of single mothers.
I think the best advice for most of us, is just deal with the fact most of your life you will be on your own. Even if you find someone, remember that she's not yours, it's just your turn.
Thats true, the self improvement advice is in all places, and its good but when you get there you probably spent the majority of your youth and no one is looking for that
The problem is that its unnatural way to meet people. People fake their profiles, fake texting using ai or stolen lines, its useless for both men and women . Just go outside and meet people . Just ask for name and if shes into you she will talk to you
quality content bro, subbed
You're absolutely right, although i live in Russia i am currently facing exactly the same situation as you and i came to the same conclusions as you:
1) stop chasing
2) self improvement (nowadays I'm working on my physic in the gym + growing beard with your American minoxidil + mewing etc.)
I think the main point is to never give up so that one day you can see the results of hard work.
Все кончено чувак
stop chasing but never give up?
Never improve yourself to get or impress women. Do It for yourself. If your going out of your way for a woman you won't find the right one. And dating apps just go on looks nothing else anyway.
@@coryleblanc Stop chasing women, but never give up on self improvement.
Yknow the whole beautiful garden phrase.
self improvement to get a anywhen a 20 year long used 0815 trash woman which wanna have kids fast and a stupid nice provider... not worth especially when you missed whole your youth and young adult time
I was called short by a woman that was barely 5' while being 5'10". Ma'am, I was taller than you while I was in primary school, what are you about?
Online dating brutal. I know my worth, I know my preference, Im not gonna going on dates with girls im not interested in and Im not going to pursue girls who dont appreciate my attention. I didnt consider myself average buuut after a month on the app..thats what I am. I havent used dating apps for 8 years and I felt a significant drop in mood after I got on, I never imagined it would be this bad.
men are not the one who choose, either you are down bad or being 60yo virgin
Bro, I'm 5 ft flat, I don't have a chance on apps, which is why I stopped using them years ago
At 5ft you have no chance. Give up bro.
@@tigerstripey4885that’s fucked up bro
5ft flat?? Dam. Im 5’11 & Hispanic
Height isn't the answer to getting women it's confidence. and confidence is competence in yourself to protect and provide for her and the family and to show her and every other guy trying to get her that your the best in terms of provision and protection. If you have enough money to take care of a family and can fight very well, you'll have all the confidence in the world which will get you the women. Looks and height are just bonuses 5%. they ain't it, it's not what gives a guy value in a womans eyes. Maybe some, but majority follow the basic Protect and Provide markers as identifiers of VALUE in a man. Women is where looks and height and all that applies too. We men are objective on what we see, Women are thinking about themselves and future offspring (egotisitcal) and sizing you up thinking is this guy the one. look at elon musk he ain't jacked, he ain't the best looking of them but he's got ambition and drive and that creates money. That's why he has so many kids. Financial Security and power through MONEY. Who would of thought he'd be a chad and have 12 kids.
Same
You made an appeal to biology that gender roles are set in stone (i.e. men must initiate, women are incapable of initiation) but then you went on to say men are giving women too much free validation, as if men can really control this impulse. I would argue that simping is mostly wired into men as well, and I think society needs to build guard rails around human nature. These dating apps as they are currently structured shouldn't even be legal in the first place.
Not about gender but who you are as an individual. Even if it's 100% biology "programmed" this, we are also creatures of learning and adaptation, etc.
You can control impulses. Even dogs can learn self-control and human minds are much more competent. And yes, biology made it that way. Love it when people blame biology for disadvantages but ignore the advantages biology also gives humans that we often don't take advantage of.
I agree that the legality should be looked at, but that doesn't absolve us of making our own choices.
@@VRNocturne You give humans too much credit. As an example, ask yourself why women cannot bring themselves to date men much shorter than themselves, or why men and women are instinctually driven to be biased against men, both automatically and unconsciously. Clearly we aren't in control of many of our instincts.
Really informative vid man!!
I recently re-downloaded a bunch of the main apps including Tinder, Hinge and Bumble. Spent about $500 combined because without the boosts and etc, it’s a complete waste. I get a match every 2 or 3 days I’d say on average and usually it’s a girl I’m not interested in at all.
Can get pretty demoralizing for the average Joe like myself. I’m probably middle of the pack somewhere on attractiveness.
I think my best bet is to go out into the wild and find a cute girl to approach and maybe you can get ahead of the hundreds in her messages.
This really is a problem though and it makes sense since we as a nation are in rapid population decline.
The problem with meeting girls in the wild is that if she uses dating apps, you will just get shuffled in with those other 1000 guys and forgotten about.
@@Jeremy-ql1orYup
Well if you need someone in your range it would work but if you prefer a far away partner it wont work.
@@troy8093 Simply do Cold Approach 2.0
@@Jeremy-ql1or nah those guys on dating apps don't all have her phone number and her iMessage
also never collect a girl's number, only give her your number after vibing
eliminates 90% of the stress from dealing with low interest women
Your problem is thinking you're "average" or thinking you're an x/10 on a scale. No, brother. You're a 1 of 1, piece unique. Don't sell yourself short.
For all you Asian brothers looking for love, keep working on you. I didnt get much attention until I got my doctorate and kept my myself in great physical shape. When you're in high school, every guy is at the same level socioeconomically. The separation becomes obvious in your 30s when you establish your career and all the positive traits of Asian culture pay off. Interestingly like what was said in the video, Latina women have shown the most interest in me. So if you live in a predominantly white area and you're feeling unwanted, move to a more diverse area to better your dating chances. My recommendation is Texas. A lot of beautiful Latinas there are open to dating Asians. I even think it's better than Cali
So basically if you get sick and lose your job you will get no hoes...ill pass
I spent 12 years on 3 different dating apps. 0 match except scammers and girls who already knew me….
On Tinder the men outnumber the women 3 to 1 for starters. Probably the same for most other dating apps.
As a 5’2 30 year old guy who has been rejected and had my heart broken my entire life, I pretty much gave up. I’ve never touched a woman, never tasted the sweetness of romance and love and will more than likely die alone and depressed.
no you wont, have you tried outside the west? (assuming you have the facilities to do so) your height makes it harder for sure but dont give up
Females pretend to fight against body shaming but then go on to body shame men(height, D size, face, hair pattern etc) brutally. Whoever said female are fairer gender was either simp or dumb
how did you become 5'2
@@Dereksilver0 nice bait all manlets are going overseas to do the same hes going to be competing with those manlets as well as regular guys
the fate of all manlets. brutal
There's a higher ratio of men to women on dating apps. Something like 60 or 70% men and 30-40 % women across all of them. That also plays a major factor.
*The insights about setting realistic expectations and the importance of personality really hit home. Thanks for sharing your journey!*
You hit it out of the park with your description and prescription of/for dating apps and women. Every average dude needs to watch this and need the advice you give
After years in dating apps with absolutely nothing. I'm finally accepting that I'm meant to be alone
nah dont say that lol you wont be alone
think of this period of your life as a character development arc in ur favourite anime
this video makes me depressed but you are speaking the truth but you have a better vibe then me and you look better then me.
dont be depressed, and im sure you look fine lol
I propose a test. Average guys I mean you fellas under 6’ or has a normal job. Don’t participate on these dating apps. Don’t chase women it’s weak and watch how the tables turn. Stay centered men
Bro. The way you put all that out is so smooth and easy to understand. I don't do dating apps, etc simply because I find them boring and a waste of my productive time and money but the principles you laid out apply to all women no matter the realm you may be "seeking" them. Cheers for the chat. You did well.
Guys, focus on your careers. Make the career your first priority because it's the only thing that really matters in the long run.
cause they’ll care about the money afterwards🤣 i’m kidding but not really
@@vybniko6827No no no, he’s got a point
As a girl on dating apps I am tired of the amount of time being asked if I want to hookup. My likes might be alot but most of them do not want to date me or get to know me as a person.They're making feel like I am a protistute and unworthy of love.
But yeah I agree when a guy show off a bit too strong especially when we only chatted for a few hours, I would be turn off as well.I have a guy who said he wanted to marry me although we never met...
I think that's because of redpill content. According to redpill content creators, going on dates is for "betas" and that women only want free meals and free attention on dates. They also teach that women don't need to go on dates for the men they're truly attracted to. She'll come over to your place if she wants you, no need for dating.
Some of this is kind of true, as I've experience this myself. But I know not all women behave like this.
@@KandaEzana Women do want free meals n free attention tho.
Honestly every time I’ve ask a girl hay can I get to know you they ghost after two texts mind you I’m 6ft2 180lb I’m shape so idk 🤷♂️
@jeremybeaverson7167 I'm sorry but if this happening "everytime", you doing something wrong.
@@ramalellison9205 it’s called not being a 10 and my best conversation I’ve had have been by being mean then nice then mean somehow that gets numbers and snaps and IG
I am on a huge grind.
End goal is to bench 265lbs at 165lbs bodyweight.
As Derek says... the less you care the better it is.
Focus on your goals and magic will happen.
Huge grind = huge coping
You could bench press 400lbs and still you’ll be in the same position.
Magic w IG Ads
@@I_have_been_sentatleast he's trying what are you doing ?
@@EngineerFormidable playing with my banana.
I can bench 295 . But I weigh 223. But that's O.K because I am exactly 6ft tall.
As a 28 year old average-slightly above average guy I agree with you. What women will have pain realizing in the next 10-15 years is that looks fade and a hookup and a man wanting to invest in you long term are twl different things...
Thats ur problem u believe ur above average lol
@@nt3353 I'm not obese. I have a six pack. I made over $50k last year. I sleep with women. The average guy gets no pussy. You are a troll. Haha.
@@nt3353 said the coward hiding behind a false profile. Incel
@@nt3353cope look at your pfp
@@nt3353 average 28 year old American man is fat so if you are close to being a fit you are above avarge
After elevating my life for 30 years, hearing from my female friends 'You are a good catch.' and 'How is it possible you are still single?', I also gave up on that idea. And no, stop chasing also did not work.
Speaking the truth. Work have some many simps on their tale, they have no time to chase
I think women especially see choosing someone equal to them as “settling”
when in reality it’s just what needs to happen for the ecosystem to actually match people
So even tho I’m going for someone equally as attractive. They all think they can do better than their “ranking”
I know that this isn't going to happen, but I wish dating apps would be 100% banned in the United States. They are causing people's self image to be vastly overinflated, and the worst part is that it translates into the real world.
Yes, I agree. 14-year relationship, 8 year marriage ended in part because of the attention my ex-wife was getting just on IG. Between that, the highest dose of SSRIs, and constant reality TV, her sense of self went to the moon, and then she filed like 2 months ago. We are in our mid 30s and just got a 500k house and pool a couple of years ago. It's bullshit man. Poisoned society. I'm higher status too, just not high enough...and I'm only 5'10 and really good looking, instead of 6'2" and extremely good looking lmao. "I'm never dating someone under 6' again," said the girl that is 5'2". Fml
@@fullyfb3847stop cursing its a sin dude
It’s even worse as an Indian. We are at the bottom of the dating pool.
😂 dont worry brother. We're all getting a raw deal.
Bro we're all in the same sinking boat lol
Im indian too. I got about 50 matches in the first month on tinder when I moved to a new city just outside of Houston, TX in the beginning of December. If you would have told me I would get this, I would have said thats awesome! A few girls even opened. What came out of it? All ghosted after a while or when I suggested a date. 0 dates as of March 2024. Im 6'1'' and used a shirtless pic for the first pic (im in good shape with a six pack). Now the matches are slowing down and its pretty much over. Ive given up. Unless a girl messages/opens first in person or online with high enthusiasm, Im done pursuing. Im focusing on intimidation maxxing now for life in general and trying to get as jacked as possible to at least be physically dominating in public to show all the people that think indians are weak and feeble that if they fuck with me, they'll get beat up. It is what it is and life goes on...
@@VR-oy3fu how a currycel like you gets matches in the first place, except for with your own race, is beyond my understanding. I'm saying this as a brown rice-cel
Asians n blacks are at the bottom of dating pool
I’m 6 foot and weight 230 but I’m bulky. Make 70k a year and have my own place and a nice car and a few pets. No drug habit and I work out. I can’t even get a single mom with 4 kids and 2 baby daddies to be interested in me……like what? Lmao
Im a woman. I used dating apps once and got a lot of attention but it was fake because in the real world I get rejected all the time . Wait how do you find intimate partners? I’m c libate because I can’t find a man to save my life and I won’t use dating apps ever again
Not to be facetious, but I'm not normal or average and it's damn near impossible. Take care of yourself gents, it'll be much more bearable and you'll learn to have so much fun via your hobbies (I get to go play World War II during the summer) and my depression is almost a non issue with exercise. Hang tough and God Bless!
Oh, my gawd this man is lit! Everything this guy says as blunt as it is is 100% true. This guy has said what all of us has wanted to say on dating apps!
If you're average , then I'm finna retire.
He hsn't seen the stats on how undesirable Asain men are on the dating apps. 😂😂😂
yeah he actually is good looking
online dating is fkd up, better to approach in real life that is what i learned. Most guys don't approach girls in public anymore so you got a big advantage over guys on dating apps and social media
thats actually true; with the rise of social media and technology, people would much rather dm or message from the comfort behind a screen than actually go up to a girl
You are one eloquent dude. Sub earned. 👊
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Boy, you are not wrong. Ive been on dating apps for just a few weeks and its brutalizing. Unless you're tall, and have money you're gonna have a hard time.
Here's my experience. I'm an average guy (5'9, average looks) and I was on dating apps for 7 years, and in those 7 years I did not get one single date. I rarely even got matches (maybe one match every two months, if that), and when I did the match would stop responding after a brief conversation, every single time. So yeah, these apps 100% do not work. I cannot advise against these apps enough, all they do is wreck your confidence.
It's 4 AM right now where I live and I've been jumping back and forth in my head as to whether or not I should go on dating apps... and I found this video. Already kinda knew what to expect since I've done my fair share of research here and there... so, wasn't surprised by the conclusions. I guess my mind is just trying to cope really hard lately with just how lonely it is being a guy in this day and age. Feels like all I ever do is wake up, eat, work/workout, sleep, and all that, once again, by the time I wake up. It's been bugging me how I'm supposed to figure out where I can find a proper path in the relationship scene. And I've ran out of options when it comes to my immediate social circle.
My short-lived experiences with trying to court women only ended up in me getting ghosted and heartbroken. Maybe I just have to push through the pain and keep doing what I'm already doing and let things run its course naturally... but I truly fear that I'll only end up rotting and alone, maybe having built an alright career... for no one. Who knows? Maybe I'm too nihilistic, and, someday, I'll find the right gal who I'll end up marrying and raising a family with. But, as of writing all this, all that sounds like wishful thinking at best.
I feel you man I’m in the same boat. Everyday is the same: wake up, work, eat, sleep repeat. It’s just so damn meaningless. Nobody to come home too or work hard for. It’s a lonely and sad life.