Nice work! Did you notice the man on the right at 4:59 has his helmet on backwards?..... Surely you must demonstrate this as typical of internal security duties, no?...... :-)....
@@RiflemanMoore My mother had a scar on her forehead which was when she grabbed a steel helmet during an air raid at her base... it knocked her out. I had a similar scar when i was a kid (exactly in the same place) when another girlie threw a rock/stone at me and it connected rather well with my head. hehe..
Also worn back to front with riot shield as it kept the soldier from getting a broken nose if the short shield was employed, also if some one got to close a friendly Glasgow kiss could be employed/ administered with out to much harm coming to the forces of the crown,,
I remember the kit very well as a one year old . Lol I sort of remember my Dad and uncles being UDR in the late 70s just.And I remember half of the British army coming to my house in the late 70s early 80s as cousin was Para and he brought mates to say over. And RUC paddy wagons being parked in the street as uncle or dad called in to house for whatever reason. Now I was in the Irish Guards army cadets from around 81 to 84 and because they government didn't want to train Northern Ireland kids on the SLR we was trained on the 303 rifle and Brengun.And used the old WW2 webbing. And in 84 as a boy soldier I moved on to the SLR etc. And yes I did get an odd clip on the ear by the army or police for running around carrying a toy gun in the streets. The Kay's catalogue used to sell toy machine guns 303 rifles and my cousin had a toy SLR . And for a very short time a model shop sold model M16 and AK-47 rifles and a lot of model pistol kits.
And even today you have a lot of fool's getting stopped because of Airsoft guns. Being played with on the streets. A few weeks ago outside a Tesco police was called because someone left his Airsoft guns on the back seat of car.ops. But with most of the men in my family being in the UDR Dad .uncle .brother.or Army uncle + Me and 3 cousins or RUC uncle and dad and mum was in the TA before I was born.
Great video. I’m not quiet that old, 12 or so years later for me, but a tiny point, I always had Magazines, ammunition end down in the pouch in case any Rounds fell out.
I do have to wonder at the name given on the Identity Card. "Kelly, John Terence"--are we, perhaps, a bit of a Clancy fan? Or (and at least as likely) am I just looking for a connection that doesn't actually exist?
Both were issued, I had both as an Army Apprentice in 1971. Different colouring schemes of khaki were used on the webbing anklets and, in some case were scrubbed completely clean, before some P.S. decided it should be 'this shade' of Khaki or 'that shade'....
As already stated both were in use but it depended on the unit, I've seen some anklets worn blackened with boot polish which gives something of the impression of a high leg boot at a distance. Puttees have one advantage in that they give greater support to the ankle if worn properly.
@@RiflemanMoore okay, thank you. Do you know why some soldiers blackend their anklets with shoe polish? This was common in some dutch units between 1946 and 1949.
In Britain some units, for example the RM blackened much of their kit post war, webbing and anklets. It was also common in rifle units who had a tradition of black acoutrements. Also, as already said it did give something of the impression of a high leg boot, something common in other armies by this time and conspicuously absent from the British Army.
Rifleman Moore thanks I like the darker glossy green on 60s helmets not the dull sanded green of the 70s I’ve gone and bought the paint thanks for that also if you ever need to restore or touch up one that has a sandy finish from the 70s there a shade called willow green that matched mine well👍
@@RiflemanMoore oh OK I vaguely remember bits of a newspaper article from oooh late 70s ? showing what soldiers in N.I. did to protect themselves during riots because there wasn't anything official including cricket boxes and very tightly rolled newspaper amongst other things to provide some degree of impact protection ATB. Bill
When you say still crap I'd go one further and say the KF is actually worse than preceding wool flannel shirts, both '50s and '60s made. The socks really are horrible!
The helmet is a standard Mk IV, it's painted in gloss green vehicle paint which was common at the time, usually covered with a hessian cover, helmet net and scrim.
Those helmets were absolutely TERRIBLE! In fact the ONLY really good piece of kit that he's got is the L1A1! The 58 webbing was ok up to a point, I was using it in the late 80s and early 90's but the 'ballistic plastic' helmets were a VAST improvement over those old steel turtles! I'm fairly sure that in the late 60s soldiers were still being issued the old red / green fibre ID tags, I think it was during the 1980's that the round steel ones started to get issued.
Go to EBay, put 58 pattern respirator case into the search engine. See what you get. The rest of that webbing is 58 pattern, I know I wore it for nearly 12 years as a Rifleman. The respirator that you feature in your clip is not 58 pattern it’s a 38 pattern WW2 type.
WW2 era respirator haversacks were used in NI in 1969 alongside 1958 Pattern, as explained in the video, I'd advise watching it again. I do include original photographs from the time. I'll say no more here as it is explained clearly in the video.
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I was taught that the knot of the puttee should be above the ankle - nice work and a good historical record - thanks for doing this
Nice work! Did you notice the man on the right at 4:59 has his helmet on backwards?..... Surely you must demonstrate this as typical of internal security duties, no?...... :-)....
Aha, indeed, but only if having had to doff it and don it hurriedly in the process of fitting the respirator!
@@RiflemanMoore My mother had a scar on her forehead which was when she grabbed a steel helmet during an air raid at her base... it knocked her out. I had a similar scar when i was a kid (exactly in the same place) when another girlie threw a rock/stone at me and it connected rather well with my head. hehe..
Also worn back to front with riot shield as it kept the soldier from getting a broken nose if the short shield was employed, also if some one got to close a friendly Glasgow kiss could be employed/ administered with out to much harm coming to the forces of the crown,,
@@maxbodymass Missed this comment previously, thanks for the infomation!
Excellent video! Can’t wait to see more Northern Ireland kit.
Many thanks! Definitely more to come in the future.
Interesting, as I grew up here during the troubles. Yes would love to see more.
Glad you found it interesting, more to come soon, for sure.
Well presented, & informative!
I remember the kit very well as a one year old . Lol
I sort of remember my Dad and uncles being UDR in the late 70s just.And I remember half of the British army coming to my house in the late 70s early 80s as cousin was Para and he brought mates to say over. And RUC paddy wagons being parked in the street as uncle or dad called in to house for whatever reason.
Now I was in the Irish Guards army cadets from around 81 to 84 and because they government didn't want to train Northern Ireland kids on the SLR we was trained on the 303 rifle and Brengun.And used the old WW2 webbing.
And in 84 as a boy soldier I moved on to the SLR etc.
And yes I did get an odd clip on the ear by the army or police for running around carrying a toy gun in the streets. The Kay's catalogue used to sell toy machine guns 303 rifles and my cousin had a toy SLR . And for a very short time a model shop sold model M16 and AK-47 rifles and a lot of model pistol kits.
And even today you have a lot of fool's getting stopped because of Airsoft guns. Being played with on the streets.
A few weeks ago outside a Tesco police was called because someone left his Airsoft guns on the back seat of car.ops.
But with most of the men in my family being in the UDR Dad .uncle .brother.or Army uncle + Me and 3 cousins or RUC uncle and dad and mum was in the TA before I was born.
I can imagine the toy guns causing no end of issues, as they still seem to do on occaiasion! I hope you found the video interesting!
Great video. I’m not quiet that old, 12 or so years later for me, but a tiny point, I always had Magazines, ammunition end down in the pouch in case any Rounds fell out.
I do have to wonder at the name given on the Identity Card. "Kelly, John Terence"--are we, perhaps, a bit of a Clancy fan? Or (and at least as likely) am I just looking for a connection that doesn't actually exist?
A connection which doesn't exist I'm afraid, the card and the name upon it are real.
Why did they issue puttees instead of anklets? Aren't anklets much easier to put on?
Both were issued, I had both as an Army Apprentice in 1971. Different colouring schemes of khaki were used on the webbing anklets and, in some case were scrubbed completely clean, before some P.S. decided it should be 'this shade' of Khaki or 'that shade'....
@@rockywr okay, thank you for the information!
As already stated both were in use but it depended on the unit, I've seen some anklets worn blackened with boot polish which gives something of the impression of a high leg boot at a distance. Puttees have one advantage in that they give greater support to the ankle if worn properly.
@@RiflemanMoore okay, thank you.
Do you know why some soldiers blackend their anklets with shoe polish? This was common in some dutch units between 1946 and 1949.
In Britain some units, for example the RM blackened much of their kit post war, webbing and anklets. It was also common in rifle units who had a tradition of black acoutrements. Also, as already said it did give something of the impression of a high leg boot, something common in other armies by this time and conspicuously absent from the British Army.
Thanks for sharing, atb 👍
No worries!
What paint did u use for the helmet
I used Hammerite dark green as it happens! Very close to British Army bronze green vehicle paint of the period.
Rifleman Moore thanks I like the darker glossy green on 60s helmets not the dull sanded green of the 70s I’ve gone and bought the paint thanks for that also if you ever need to restore or touch up one that has a sandy finish from the 70s there a shade called willow green that matched mine well👍
shudders....oh that shirt !
Needs a shave more than any soldier wearing it does!
Love your videos are you going to be at the Soviet Threat at Hack Green Bunker this September 21st-22nd ?
Hope to be!
Another grear vid, roll on the next. Ps How much kit?
Many thanks! What exactly do you mean how much kit? If you mean in the collection quite a lot!
looks quite similar with the British army HongKong 1967 riot loadout
Very similar duties.
How aboutba little piece on soldiers improvised body armour
Not something I'd know enough about to make a video on it I'm afraid.
@@RiflemanMoore oh OK I vaguely remember bits of a newspaper article from oooh late 70s ? showing what soldiers in N.I. did to protect themselves during riots because there wasn't anything official including cricket boxes and very tightly rolled newspaper amongst other things to provide some degree of impact protection ATB. Bill
KF came in and was still crap... especially when wet. The socks took me back to 1971 though hehe..
When you say still crap I'd go one further and say the KF is actually worse than preceding wool flannel shirts, both '50s and '60s made. The socks really are horrible!
L1A1 was the best bit.
Helmet looks weird... too shiny, weird colour green, never seen one with a flared rim like that.
The helmet is a standard Mk IV, it's painted in gloss green vehicle paint which was common at the time, usually covered with a hessian cover, helmet net and scrim.
Civie Y Fronts or Budgie Smuglers ALWAYS worn in favour of the bloody cheesegrater shreddies issues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The only underwear I was issued was two pairs of the Long Johns probably from 1912 stock....
Shreddies really are something else!
Those helmets were absolutely TERRIBLE! In fact the ONLY really good piece of kit that he's got is the L1A1! The 58 webbing was ok up to a point, I was using it in the late 80s and early 90's but the 'ballistic plastic' helmets were a VAST improvement over those old steel turtles! I'm fairly sure that in the late 60s soldiers were still being issued the old red / green fibre ID tags, I think it was during the 1980's that the round steel ones started to get issued.
Wrong respirator case.
No, it's quite correct. I take it you didn't watch up to 4:43 which shows a Mk VI respirator haversack in use?
Hate to disagree but your photograph is not a 58 pattern webbing respirator case.
No, indeed, it's a Mk VI, try watching the video again, I think you may be missing out on some of the information.
Go to EBay, put 58 pattern respirator case into the search engine. See what you get. The rest of that webbing is 58 pattern, I know I wore it for nearly 12 years as a Rifleman. The respirator that you feature in your clip is not 58 pattern it’s a 38 pattern WW2 type.
WW2 era respirator haversacks were used in NI in 1969 alongside 1958 Pattern, as explained in the video, I'd advise watching it again. I do include original photographs from the time. I'll say no more here as it is explained clearly in the video.