Western countries take first steps to fight caste-based oppression | DW News
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- Caste discrimination has existed in South Asia for centuries and now increasing instances are reported in the United States too. It’s prompted Seattle to ban any discrimination on the basis of caste. It's the first US city to do so and it's divided opinion across the diaspora.
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#caste #discrimination #oppression
So her argument is: "I've never experienced discrimination, therefore it doesn't exists"
Her privilege is showing!
Thats like white people saying there ain't any racism cause they haven't experienced it.. 😂
people living in west are privileged only, and there's no such thing as caste discrimination there, i know bcs my relatives are in canada and USA
@@darcyperkins7041 bro leave US aside, just tell me even in India
just tell me, you will wonder about caste in ur work place or not?? or you will wonder caste in business??? or you will ask caste for anything else, even when making freinds???
this taboo is only for marriage here, bcs of society and so called samaj
but there in US, even diiff caste hindus are getting married in more number, caste discrimination s all for name sake and politics
@@ominagaraj his comment was for ignorants like you only
Because me or my family has never experienced discrimination so it doesnt exist
@@ominagaraj it's only see in the tech sectors.
I am not Indian or American. But that's a big one of a win. Congratulations to everyone who stood up against this type of discrimination.
What discrimination
Left has Decided this is way to Police Indian Hindus. They will only push Indians in those countries towards Right-wing.
@Rohit Aryanization or the master race disease.
absolutly ....sir....
Yeah, but we don’t have a caste system in America. So why do we need a law against it. Keep that stuff in India.
Basically in America is if your White and educated n Rich your a crown jewel the rest of the society is mud up under your feet.
If there's no caste discrimination then laws banning caste discrimination will have zero impact so there should be nothing for her to oppose.
Right? I hear the same arguments for laws against discrimination of women or Queers in the work place.
If it really isn't a big deal then the laws are just a little wasted paper.
problem with these kind of laws is lets say i am a hindu from so called upper class and there is another guy from lower caste & for some reason or hatered he accuses me of caste based discrimination how am defend myself its similiar to putting someone in jail for saying fu7k uh.
@@krishnadwivedi3880 You would be the first guy l'm gonna call when I need a lawyer. Not
🙄🙄
@@krishnadwivedi3880 true, in India all sc, St, obc class are getting prevailage in every sector and main oppressed class is General class (Upper class according to West). Simple example if there is one seat left to get admission in big college in India and there 2 candidates first st student with 64% (lower class acc to West) and second General student with 94% but St student with 64% will get admission, selection is happening on the basis of reservation not on merit basis (except Indian army). So tell me who is opressed class answer is General class.
@@krishnadwivedi3880 you realize that can apply to so many laws right?
I don’t begin to understand the counter argument. “It’s discriminatory for you to take away my ability to discriminate” seems like a strange cause to adopt. How is this supposed to hurt Hindus or Indians in America?
The american civil war, a war for "states rights" in many textbooks. Just don't ask what right they were fighting for😉
Mr. Jon the same if some Indian state passed a resolution against Racism specially against
Americans. We know that Racism is banned in America by law.
Not an Indian but kudos to Seattle! Always love how the city is progressive. Discrimination shouldn't exist in any way or form.
You are right. Love from India.
Trumpsollini maga is trying hard to change that
Yes, Seattle is amazing, I love the unprosecuted violence and drug use here.
@@rogermurtaugh4766you can be a great city and a terrible city at the same time. Seattle and Miami are both great examples of that
We should also bring constitution against wrong things in kuran
I've witnessed caste discrimination take place in Australia in a tech job. A educated colleague from the south who was highly competent was passed over for a promotion by a colleague from a higher caste. The person could barley write nor had any ability to code. This toxic promotion affected the whole team.
It's sick. I am East African in America and I can smell a Brahman immediately! I went into store and said to woman you are Brahman aren't you? She smiled with pride and said thank you, yes I am. I knew because of the aura of arrogance. Didn't mention that I just laughed
As an Indian, I wholeheartedly support any and all initiatives to annihilate caste.
yes, this liar clearly benefits from caste and is supporting.. "Caste was not part of my life"?!! B, please.. I am sure you married within caste with this attitude
She shows it's a real thing that exists
It should be banned globally.
Caste discrimination is very subtle amongst the Indian community which in itself is very fractured on the basis of regionalism already. Congratulations on the win. This is definitely a step ahead.
It's product of hindu religion that is based in caste system which was used by elite bhramins to oppress others.
Oh thank you cuz I've even asked Google what it was and no one could answer me correctly.
These folks who are anti-ban sound exactly like the south during jim crow in the US.
The person interviewed did a great job illuminating why a general law against such discrimination is needed.
Calling repression "cultural traditions" is beyond beyond.
Its oppressors oldest tool. Whenever you show they are acting wrong they use tradition as the excuse
well, it is technically correct.
I remember one African dictator talking about democracy being not suited for Africa.
It'd the same thing. Using culture to defend your privileges.
@@pyngu4936 the African one was realistic. Most of African countries were in its peak during the empire era. But, India, there is nothing good in caste system.
She is lying 😂. Even if you are a billionaire from Dalit caste you are still not considered equal to a homeless Brahmin caste.
Great move by Seattle 👍 In fact, as caste is the backbone of the Hindu arranged marriage system, it should also be recognised as a form of institutionalised eugenics (genetic discrimination) that prevents natural genetic mixing of humans within India, and wherever the Hindu diaspora has carried on with this practice. Intercaste marriages are discouraged by Hindu families even in 'modern' India, and intercaste couples often face social ostracism in rural India. In extreme cases intercaste couples are killed by their own family members for bringing the shame of individualisic thinking upon their conservative collectivist-oriented traditional families.
Those who oppose intercaste marriage in principle clearly do not accept individual choice in finding one's life partner.
Hopefully the younger generations of Indians will eventually be able to think independently about this discriminatory system.
Thank you DW.
😂😂😂😂 now you'll force people to marry according to you
Rape culture in western countries is highest infact in western countries there's legalized prostitution like porn industry, no doubt why usa & other western countries dominate in rape cases, women objectification & hyper sexualize culture is immensely vehement in western countries which can be seen through Western movies & songs , so much vulgarity & nudity, that's why rape culture in western countries especially usa is godfather in terms of rape , i realized that westerners behave like sex predators cuz westerners all the time talk 'bout sex sex sex.. , westerners are the most sex addicts & sex observed which can be seen in your case , infact if y'all go through bible then you'll see that there's so much talks on sex infact Jesus was womanizer, sex addicts , you'll find multiple references where jesus raped so many women, no doubt why western society is sex obsessed & havin' rape culture
@@S4sent irony is that linduism and arranged marriage force people to marry
😂🤣should people marry according to you?? But you idi0ts have no guts to say something when it comes to interfaith marriages, when one partner is muzlim.
Hope against hope
Wish such laws were enforced in india
They already are, since India's independence.
they partially are. but I think as a whole, social enforcement of castes is still more prevalent than state action against it. and there certainly still are rural areas where the cops support the caste system. like how there are rural areas in india and bangladesh where cops refuse to act against sex crimes and just blame the victims.
@@miteshshah7859 laws are there but they aren't enforced
The next laws that will be implemented in India are CAA-NRC . Get your papers ready...
@@akshattewari cutey i am a Canadian citizen like Akshay Kumar so am good , would suggest you leave india too but i understand its expensive affair and you look unemployed too, anyways best of luck 😌
LOL "No Data" woman argues that caste discrimination should be allowed because there is no data on caste discrimination. If it isn't happening, why would she be against banning it? The only reason to be against a ban on caste discrimination is because she obviously wants to, or does in practice, discriminate based on caste and is worried she won't be able to in the future.
Don't be blind this law could be used against groups for unproven claims as well, for hurt feelings etc. Caste system is form of slavery that Gandhi helped rejuvenate.
It's like saying abolition of slavery is targeting a particular group and will increase discrimination against people who are practicing it. She is worried now that she may go to jail.
Mind Begs the Question:
If Majority of a Nation
Votes Fascists into Govt
For Race/Caste superiority
Must accept/recognize that Govt
Must reject/derecignize that Govt?
At the top of the hierarchy were the Brahmins who were mainly teachers and intellectuals and are believed to have come from Brahma's head. Then came the Kshatriyas, or the warriors and rulers, supposedly from his arms. The third slot went to the Vaishyas, or the traders, who were created from his thighs. At the bottom of the heap were the Shudras, who came from Brahma's feet and did all the menial jobs.Outside of this Hindu caste system were the achhoots - the Dalits or the untouchables.
Did you notice that she wear the little red dot for the interview… I met a lot of Indians that do not wear it… not surprised if the woman is affiliated to a nationalist party in India.
Caste is the base of Hinduism.That's why Dr BR Ambedkar left Hinduism
I ❤Hinduism, it's way more than caste ,cows
Because Ambedkar face caste discrimination and that's why he left Hinduism
I am from the soo called untouchable community from a 2nd tier city in the state of Uttar Pradesh and i can say safely that caste system still exists in india even sometimes in big cities, all the people who are justifying caste system in the comment section are from the soo called upper caste.
Sister we already now people that say there is no caste discrimination are all from higher caste
India might just be the most discriminatory country on Earth. Racism, homophobia, disablism, classism, skin colour discrimination India has it all in spades.
It's funny, the people who don't seem to think the caste system exists are the people at the top! I wonder what caste this lady is from
Well, she is from the lowest caste.
came here to say that
racists and supremacists may come in different shapes, sizes, accents, colours and ..... VISAs ! 🙏
Just like a straight white man saying that he never experienced racism...
@THE ZOLDICS So? doesn't make it right lmao
thank you DW for this episode
we need to call out people like the lady gas-lighting on this horrific prejudice
unfortunately, the Indian society is still maintains its feudalistic structure stricken with blatant supremacist attitudes in the name of culture and tradition
@@Callingnone
caste-ism is a veil, its a subversive ploy to preserve supremacist entitlements for certain people.... to this day !
though apparently benign, its indoctrination in the garb of ritualistic traditions and DHARMA controls every breath of the hindu life
for the underprivileged, with the lack of education and employment opportunities, its a lifetime of stranglehold of the conniving upper caste
it suppresses freedom, breeds insecurity, promotes superstition. needs to be uprooted and dismantled at all costs and by all means. good job Seattle !
@@Callingnone are you Indian? Or immigrant from country with caste system?
@fintan9218 I am an Indian Btech student from a government university and I have never seen discrimination for any caste based groups neither in my university nor in any industry. It may exist in small villages and towns but not in any institution like racial discrimination in your countries
@@fintan9218 country with solid caste system is uk
A bunch of nincompoops known as the royal family just earn a lot because of their birth privileges
I don't know why west has so much problem with that,since its the uk that introduced concept of martial races
The uk believed some races are better than others for fighting. And then claim they are not racist
@@aryangupta3010
ignorance is a bliss, my young friend, but naivete may not be an excuse forever. what do you mean by 'never seen' ? have you ever, outside of cramming the syllabus, tried to figure out how you may have been a beneficiary or a victim of this system ? i don't think so !
This shyt should have never been a thing in the first place. When u come to someone else’s country you follow their laws and regulations. Not your former country laws. It doesn’t apply here. We follow the constitution. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@THE ZOLDICS No, Hindus have a caste system. Now they can't discriminate using it in Seattle. Cope.
Okay, we will rename it racial discrimination to comply with US constitution
If Hindus migrate to other countries in the world, caste would become a world problem. - Babasaheb Dr B R Ambedkar It became true
we hindus will spreading our caste discriminate and culture around the world,jai hind 💪🇮🇳🐯🕉️
@@Rajusharmal 😂😂😂 visa bhi nhi dengai tumhe to
@@Rajusharmalwish I could put this person in jail via showing this comment😢
@@xen5917 pls dont be an anti nationals and embrace india culture 🇮🇳💪😎🕉️
Castiest spotted
"I've never experienced it therefore it doesn't exist, regardless of those who say they HAVE experienced it."
Yes, this women has "never heard of it" in America because she refuses to believe every example presented to her is real. Instead she remains confident in her belief, regardless of the Truth.
A couple, a hundred, even a million of people who have experienced in a country of almost 350 MILLION people where RACE DISCRIMINATION IS BANNED doesnt mean its DOES exist as something that is ALLOWED, the only people discriminating indians based on their caste are other INDIANS. 99% of non indians in USA doesnt even know 1 caste of the the indians much less can pronounce em!
@THE ZOLDICS The caste system comes from hindu scripts not from the british you woke propagandist. Hierarchy system is complete different from a caste system, they are NOT alike.
@@noturbusiness4205 That's true, but discrimination of Indians by Indians still cannot be tolerated in the US, don't you agree?
@THE ZOLDICS just accept it it is shown in mahabharta as well.
'A person should be judged by the content of his character rather than from which community he/she comes' - Dr Martin Luther King
I'm glad to see people in the comment section are critical of their own countries or traditions. It's not easy for most people to overcome their tribal bias in protecting their own social group.
@THE ZOLDICS No. This caste system really needs to be eliminated. And not everywhere in the world has caste system.
@thezoldics7648 Nah. False equivalency. Name another culture in the world where you are BORN into a certain caste which strictly dictates your possibilities in life, with no possibility of ever moving beyond it? Where the category you're stamped with at birth affects whether your countrymen are able to even TOUCH you?
Nah. Nothing like that anywhere else. It's barbaric.
And that isn't a racist or chauvinistic thing to say. It's just a fact.
It isn't discriminatory to call out hindus for... being discriminatory toward other Hindus.
@@rajeshranjan5170 the main problems of caste system are the big social divisions and inflexibility but in all nations social divisions exist so even thought is great this news it's look quite hypocrite "western nations" fighting something they practice themselves and worsening.
@THE ZOLDICS Nope, the caste system in India is the worst kind of discrimination.
@@rajeshranjan5170u live in Marvel's movie
The woman interviewed at the end of this report is so condescending towards the anchor, and clearly very dull. She denies something that everyone knows exist- as a non Asian doctor I have seen and heard so many sad stories of how Indian communities discriminate against each other based on caste. If we deny something and pretend it doesn’t exist, we simply perpetuate it. Her keeping on saying “let me tell you” - how patronising & clearly attempting to disarm the anchor. Shame on her.
This happens amongst the Indian diaspora in Australia all the time, the Brahmins here, still discriminate against the dalits. The Indian Caste system is ingrained, they won't change.
Kick them out . 😬
@@joexavier2287 your comment says a lot about your experience of getting kicked out of places.
JAI BRAHMINS!
"I feel discriminated that you won't allow me to discriminate against others"
😂
If banning discrimination of any kind causes problem to a group of people, what does that say about that group ?
It says that those people or group of people want Discrimination to be practiced so that they can have its benefits.
It's sad but it's reality....that still caste discrimination exists....
this is an obviously correct thing to do. the woman arguing against it is being absurd - "we don't need to ban it because it does not happen" - so if it doesn't happen, and you don't want it to happen, what's the problem with banning it? if it doesn't happen anyways, then the ban affects nobody!
Well, it never happened to HER, which means it NEVER happened to anyone. She is as guilty as sin.
i want to put some light who doesn't know what low cast or untouchable people gone through in past, in Hinduism higher cast Hindus people use to collect breast tax, the women has to pay taxes to cower up their body, if low cast Hindu (dalits) listen to Hindu scriptures then higher cast Hindu should pour molten glass into the ear and it's all written in Hindu scriptures (manusmriti), they were not allowed to get a knowledge like other Hindus, they are not allowed to use the same well which high class Hindu uses, they were not allowed to touch higher class utensils and if they did they were been killed, the discrimination happening in regular basis in India 🇮🇳 still now, Lower Cass girls are being raped in everyday cases, you can say it's a norm in India, and the rapist are not charged and court and police blame the girl that she was wrong, my family was belong to same cast but we changed our religion into Buddhism to protect our family
@@notofyourneed5728 🤦,what kind of religion is this..
Well,i heard that it's related Hinduism
At the top of the hierarchy were the Brahmins who were mainly teachers and intellectuals and are believed to have come from Brahma's head. Then came the Kshatriyas, or the warriors and rulers, supposedly from his arms. The third slot went to the Vaishyas, or the traders, who were created from his thighs. At the bottom of the heap were the Shudras, who came from Brahma's feet and did all the menial jobs.Outside of this Hindu caste system were the achhoots - the Dalits or the untouchables.
She also tried to argue that it will be the beginning of the end of Hindu traditions. I don't think she has an idea of what she's talking about. India even banned caste discrimination, and they have a billion Hindus in the country.
Great move. This will bring more awareness in the West. Indians in the West are a successful bunch. They have done very well and they are a peaceful community but inside the community there are these divisions which are not apparent to the bigger society as a whole and hence such discrimination keep happening. Awareness is the first step to mitigate and overturn ills of a society. Hopefully Hindu expats keep their peace, tolerant nature not just while dealing with other communities in the West but also among themselves.
Why are you trying to make Indians more like whites?
@THE ZOLDICS caste system are anti national Dumbo
Old way lol
@THE ZOLDICS the Indian cast system is unique.
Lmao 3rd generation British Indian and I've never heard of caste based issues in any parts of my family or any friends, and none that I know could even tell you what caste they are
@@killa1234560 Good, then laws like this will have no effect on you.
caste discrimination is bitter truth in India lower caste are abussed mentally and lowering there opportunities in powerful positions
Reservati0n??
Lol she said the quiet part out loud, and admitted this is really about protecting wealthy CEOs from discrimination lawsuits. If karma exists, I'm pretty sure she's coming back as a sea slug.
11:23 FYI she said she is bahujan
It means she is from lower caste ! Fool !
She just want to save caste system if caste system got removed there reservation privilege will also get away from them lol! That's the real game ! She is not from uppar caste! Clearly!
Dw should invite all caste People's in panel which will make things more clear
@@svanimation8969 dumbo we don't need reservation system fool
We want to ban caste system
Correct me If I am wrong , those CEOs are there only because of their talent, hard work and they are there because of merit.
They just escaped from India because of Govt sponsored positive discrimination.
@@jayarajnair what about the 2000 years of 100% smriti sponsored uppercaste reservation??
Very well done, DW. India's caste system is the most iniquitous social construct ever created anywhere in the world. In India, in the name of "merit", the caste oligarchy is completely embedded in corporations, media. entertainment, military, bureaucracy, politics, business as well. High time it was acknowledged, countered, and annihilated whether the Indian privileged-caste diaspora the world over wants it or not.
Love cheap Russian petroleum products with SWEET SWEET Ukrainian bl00d
😂yo seriously?
But PRIME MINISTER AND PRESIDENT OF INDIA are from so called lower caste
Modi is obc. His caste was included in obc in 1990. PM modi was already popular due to Ekta yatra. He never faced real discrimination like untouchability that sc st face.
President murmu is ST and doesn't come under caste hierarchy.
@@guurindersinghsfather1068 usa is making sweet sweet ukraininan blood
she said Hindu Human right ..does US constitution offer special rights for each religion? that itself shows their segregating mind set.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 well done Seattle. This system of oppression needs to be dismantled and destroyed. Hope this gets implemented in India as well
Dumbo, India abolished it in 1950
@@thebestevertherewas oh i must be imagining the discrimination and abuse being committed against "lower caste" people
sikh gurus were the most discriminatory, they and their followers shuld be banned, this is very feeble law
Seattle will introduce positive discrimination in jobs and college as India has done?
@@mesmero84 speak for yourself you id**t . All of the sikh gurus were against evil caste system. No wonder in gurudwara langar system you see everyone eating the same food in the same row regardless of the caste , creed , religion or colour of skin .
Wow, every word and body language of that lady says she is guilty, she is privileged and she likes it that way.
The wackiest part is that the law prevents them from discriminating against those of low caste. If she feels she is targeted, then she must be planning to discriminate lol. It’s no different than a white person saying a law against discrimination against non-whites is targeting whites.
When u will come to India ! U will see that who's getting privilege lol !
As a general category we also want caste system to abolished!
And DW is famous for always choose a weak speaker from India ! Or if they talking about our government they always invite a oposition party weak speaker as always! If u wanna see cool debates come to other channel's where good Indian speakers got invited !
11:23 she is
Hindu bahujan which is SC caste which is one of the lowest caste ! 🙃🤧😂 And which get from our government's privileged reservation and lots of Benifits ! And lots of discounts literally everything which related government and political seat ! Everything ! These guys scared now if the caste system got abolished there reservation will go away ! All that yummy Benifits which the constitution give them ! The reality is uppar caste or middle/general category peoples even want the same majority of them want also to abolish it !! This constitution engineered in the way that it will Benifits Them the most ! Since Indian constitution literally wrote by mostly by a lower caste guy ambedkar in india ! That's the fact ! (He was from start was not a lower caste i guess he was born in good family but later converted to Buddhism) and after that India got independence Indian government give him responsibility to create our constitution! We indians also want that this wave of anti caste come in india from west it will be game changer! Cuz mostly Hindus angry that we got discriminated at every stage in goverment jobs, school College qualification, and so on so many discount so many free scholarship not because they have any talant just bcz they belong to certain caste :( ! It's discriminatary there are poor everywhere in uppar or middle or Lower ! This is one of the reason why my country India so behind! The deserving guy do not get preference but the caste victim card guy ! Get the place (reserve seat )
That's why many favour to go out of India ! So there kids will not feel the same discrimination! U will see all these ceo's of usa Company's now are from general and uppar caste !for a reason! Cuz the levels of discrimination by system is beyond imagination! It's history's biggest Uno card against UPPAR castes!
But the middle caste (like mine ) we always in middle ! Fked up by system in both era's 😂🤧🤧🤧
@@svanimation8969 see the dot? She's actually from the highest cast. The lowest 2 can't wear it.
@@First-Last_name lol go to south india !
As I understand it, this is a woman from the highest caste and wants to have privileges and discriminate against the lower castes, so she is against this law.
How tf is anyone against this? 🤯 They've just added 'caste' to things you can't discriminate against
Because if they blamed some of discrimination in India without any court proceedings they put the person in jail just by word of mouth. And proceedings go on after that so many of the guys had taken advantage out of this law that's why I don't know what Americans are doing
@@developerAKX actually it's opposite happening in india..lower caste heavily descriminated but no one cares about this people's pain and gains
@@developerAKX You've described a problem with the Indian legal system, not with the anti-discrimination law.
@@joexavier4070 looks like you are some bot or something your account is just open to comment 9 months old 1K comments wow
@@developerAKX so what stfu
Growing up in India, caste was not part of her life...wow how previlaged she had to be...
she wants us to take her anecdotal evidence and throw all others into the dustbin...world needs more people like kshama
I live in Tokyo and have witnessed such discrimination at Indian restaurants unfortunately. Our constitution doesn't allow anyone to practice the caste thing even if he or she is from India, Nepal or any other Hindu nations. However, perhaps in Japan, bosses often treat their colleagues badly so I think we can easily ignore what happens in a restaurant...
It's product of hindu religion that is based in caste system which was used by elite bhramins to oppress others.
I think first of all your japanese govt needa (need to) recognised Nanjing massacre & Korean massacres where Japanese soldiers ruthlessly raped & vandalized south korean & chinese women , your constitution is itself written by usa , your country ain't even a sovereign country rather pawn of usa
Can you explain what caste discrimination you witnessed?
@@ankitapattanaik6059Probably a north Indian man yelling at a south Indian man.
I ve witnessed white man yelling at another. Maybe they're also discriminating on basis of region. Maybe he was a New Yorker yelling at a Bronx man.. wow. Discrimination
It’s about time. This practice is sickening.. I didn’t know they carry this practice here to the states. I wonder what other negative cultural norms are brought along. Why is this woman fervently against this law. It should be meaningless if they are not practicing caste rules in the USA. The USA needs to keep an eye on this highly educated and wealthy community. Is cultural norms and values are so different than the USA that it could corrupt the culture of the USA.
Are you aware that The American Churches spend billion to do exactly the same in India?
@THE ZOLDICS India had this prior to colonial times
@@babureddy6478 no. Religion is complicated. That's why we separate Church from State.
@Jason X Please have a critical look at your downtown areas, Sir.
These two Zoldics and babbu reddy are the right wing uppercastes. In India the ruling BJP is supported by right wing upper castes. BJP and its parent party the RSS has been trying to revise history. Among their revised history chapter is that the British created caste system. And this is blindly believed by BJP supporters
So no use arguing with these 2 dumb uppercastes..
Caste discrimination is stigma that indians suffer. India doesnt need to export these stigma to other countries.These bans are needed to avoid this stigma growing outside india
That interview with Sudha Jagannathan, she is horrible! My goodness she is a bad faith actor! So clearly lying and most definitely wanting to preserve her ability to discriminate against lower castes at will because power feels yummy to her!
Its funny how all her arguments fell flat when tested lol
She's exactly someone I imagine who will discriminate against her own people. Even her reasoning is twisted. Unashamedly arguing against a bill that will give equal treatment to whole commmunities of Indian expatriates, it's apparent she's not ready to give up her exalted status just yet.
Throughout Han history, no one has willingly given up power.
You could tell she's from an upper caste simply protecting her privilege.
Upper Caste Hindus are not willing to accept the injustice done to lower caste fellow Hindus. They should support equality among all.
Support equal rights for kafirs and Heathens
Sudha Jagannathan is taking all her plays from the old "Jim Crow" book. This lady calls it "my culture" and Jim Crow Segregationist called it "my heritage". 8:52 "it is targeting Hindu Americans"? By Hindu she of course means her "race". No American of non-Indian origin can ever be a TRUE Hindu unless they can be sorted and binned according to Caste. Using the term Hindu American vs Indian American is a clever coded message directed to "lower Caste" Indian Americans that the Old Rules still apply. Some truly terrible people once said something that has become my American Motto of Freedom: "when I hear the word culture I reach for my gun!"
So they are practising caste system in a foreign land. Oppressors will never change.
her argument makes no sense
Caste is a British creation - I heard many indian saying that . I wonder who feeds them such information .
The British did not start the caste system, but they set hard boundaries to a system that may not have been as rigid. The old divide and conquer.
I'm sure you can find indians blaming the britishers for literally every bad thing.
oh yeah
Even Shiva and Hanuman were masterpiece of brits.
Ahh i love brits. They are very creative 😂
regardless of the origin we need to exemplify forgiveness, not revenge, if we do not it will ruin our world. I have made mistakes and have to recognize those mistakes and improve my behavior
At the top of the hierarchy were the Brahmins who were mainly teachers and intellectuals and are believed to have come from Brahma's head. Then came the Kshatriyas, or the warriors and rulers, supposedly from his arms. The third slot went to the Vaishyas, or the traders, who were created from his thighs. At the bottom of the heap were the Shudras, who came from Brahma's feet and did all the menial jobs.Outside of this Hindu caste system were the achhoots - the Dalits or the untouchables.
She cant accept that it is targeting practice and not community because she knows it primarily exists within Hindu community. Shame on her for opposing this and talking in public media.
Exactly
Caste is like covid. We may be affected by some caste variant. You may be able to find it if you take simple self test. Just look at your close friends and people you would like to spend time with most of the time. If they are all from same country, same skin color ,speak language, follow same religion, may be same religions sub-division/caste - then you may have some level of caste problems.
@@kreight_ I don't disagree with you. The reality is we might be benefited by cate in one place and we will be the victim in many other places.
@kreight_ I just can't belive there is that much discrimination based on caste even possible. Its one thing in india but as a college graduate, it's not like there all hiring managers are upper caste in US. Confusing.
looking how dalits act in america. i understand why caste system exists,
it was shock to me, i didnt know caste discrimination is banned in india, i was thinking is mandatory in india.
The law often goes unenforced and caste is still a very real thing in India.
The law is an effort to combat it, but without proper enforcement true change can't come.
It is absolutely banned in India by law.
DW News and its anchors are a breath of fresh air for me in America. Well done calling out the BS from this woman.
Yes, good interview.
unfortunately, the Indian society is intrinsically feudal and violent in character, infested with supremacist attitudes and beliefs peddled to naive younger generations in the name of cultural heritage and useless ritualistic traditions
these are the ones gas-lighting the system
sadly DW only rarely has the real OG janelle dumalaon on these days.
When Hindus take their AWESOME tradition abroad . but this time no Indian media is saying ''Hinduism katramai ''
Can you explain your comment to a non-Hindu, non-Indian?
@@tayler2396 its common narrative used in Indian medias backed by Hindu right wing political parties. whenever someone put forward some negative news regarding to government or leadership they will accuse as large scale conspiracy against their religion . Its similar to "Islamophobia '" claim .
@@7_years_and_ I see. Could you translate Hinduism katramai for me? Is it like Hinduphobia?
@@tayler2396 yes
@@lakshaysingh9743 Thank you.
I love he how he was asking loaded questions but I laughed hard when she spoke about the Anthropologist voting against the legislation and told him 'to read her article'. :p
Those opposing law are radical supporters of caste system. It is very unfortunate that they feel this way. Even if there were no reports then also making a law to ensure equal rights is a great idea
Why not?? Reservati0n is one of the reason they are living outside India. Distant from their relatives, Village peoples, their friends and from their culture.
@@sairis if people could leave India they will. Doesn't matter who they are. Bcz how much you think it's not true, it is, that lifestyle in foreign is better. "Biggest accomplishment in india is leaving it"
@@sairisso u r supporting Casteism because of reservation?? Wow cope u MFS more power to usa...bring anti caste law . please
I am talking from complete ignorance here, but how do they even tell which caste are people from in order to discriminate them? Is it their last names?
Actually there is complete mixing here ....
And Here They have Actually played with caste ....
There are Two Solid Categories
Brahims General and SCs and ST's
Now
There is a 3rd Category of OBC's
My Surname is OBC in India's Uttar Pradesh
But
General in Another state Uttarakhand
The People who may share common surname may belong to completely different Caste group .....
But surely couple of surnames can definitely help you to identify a particular caste
Paswan - Dalits
Sharma - Brahmin
Mr. Sanchez caste divisions were made on the basis of what people did for their living. For
example Farmers, Priests, Shepherds, Gold smiths, Cattle herds, Tailors, Clothes washers etc.
Lack of inter caste mobility is a problem with the caste system.
There shouldn’t be a cast system for there to be a mobility.
It was meant to be dependent on Karma I.e work and not birth ....
For the same reason Hindu scriptures like Ramayan was Written by Valmiki
And Valmiki is a Dalit caste now......
Some people used it for their own benefits ...
@@_kartik_chauhan Buddhism was popular in China, but there was never any castes formed. Chinese fate changes and life churns depending on each person's goal and struggle. Life changes in each generation.
They don't want it because most upper caste people are closeted casteists
'she is a socialist who just wants to overthrow the class system itself'
and she thinks thats a bad thing 😆
First of all that lady "Sudha Jaganathan" by her name itself, I can make out that she is from the upper caste. She says that caste is a non-issue in the US and that she has never experienced or seen caste discrimination in India. If it is a non-issue then why oppose the regulation?? Just because she has not experienced it (considering that she is from the upper caste the chances of her experiencing it is nil) does not mean there are others who haven't experienced it.
Good job on part of Seattle.
The present form of cast system is the worst thing to have happen to the Indian subcontinent...
The cast system was supposed to be merit based but over the millenias nepotism creeped in and made this a birth based system
Mr. Bannerjee, you should have asked the people you spoke with, whether they were dalit or non-dalit. That would have put their response into perspective.
You want it that way really
I dont think caste discrimination exist anymore i have upper caste and lower caste friends but i never face any type of caste discrimination
I wasn't aware caste discrimination was an issue in the U.S. Congratulations to them on their win .
Hindus consider that
Brahmin (Scribes/ Priests) came from the head of the God.
Kshatriya ( Warriors/ Kings) from the chest.
Vaish ( Merchants) from the Tummy.
Shudras ( Lowest cast) from the legs.
Then at the bottom of food chain are Dalits or Untouchables.
They are not even worthy of to be touched.
She didn't face any discrimination because she is from the higher caste.
She said Bahujan.Dont think its a high caste
Opposition: This is targeting Indian Hindus!
Interviewer: But there is no mention of India, it applies to everyone
Opposition: But all of the examples of discrimination are perpetuated by Indian Hindus! Therefore it's targeting us!
literally no one is saying that
@THE ZOLDICS Just so we're clear you're claiming the British invented Hinduism and imposed it on India? Hahaha 😂
@THE ZOLDICS its not british made. Read more as it will enlighten you. Dont deny it.
Hathras case, ram nath kovind temple case these are pretty good examples of how caste problems are systematic and institutionalised in India.
This zodiac is the governments propoganda wing, the right wing in India especially the RSS the mentors of the current prime minister are trying to change the history, it's going on even in universities.
Example of Personality disorder sometimes if feel that person say something but it not
In all fairness caste system is banned in the U.S. - it's simply an issue that hasn't had to come before the supreme court before to be clarified. It's utterly illegal to discriminate, it's simply that no one has made an issue of it in the courts so far. That said it certainly can't hurt to have the law on the books as it could encourage injured parties to come forward and sue to set a precedent.
@THE ZOLDICS The US is different from older countries, people have great social mobility.
Zodiac is blaming cast system on British is the right wing propoganda the cast system existed even in Mughal period
Yeah, like how most states haven't banned cousin marriages because its always been pretty rare.
@thezoldics7648What the heck are you talking about? The Caste system was created in India by Brahmans 2000 years ago. A Brahman had created Manusmriti that included all the discrimination.
British had only inherited everything that had been setup by so called "high caste" Indians. Of course Britishers had to put up with whatever was already established and adapt accordingly.
Of course it's banned in the US numpty. It's the US, not India.
3:06; the minority community who is opposing this legislation is controlling majority wealth n power back in india through caste discrimination…so why wld they support this bill which makes them feel impotent without caste n discrimination
Don't let natzi hindus tell you caste discrimination doesn't exit. Recently 4 rape accued and rapist released by court who raped and murdered a dalit girl. Although girl gave dying statement of rape and brutality but accused were saved by court whole system controll by them.
It follows them every we're thay go...thay not only think thay are superior to other races in India thay think thay are superior to everyone out side of their cast...thay think thay are the chosen ones... sounds familiar!!!.♥️🇺🇸🇺🇦
We are the master races and only accept our people and German relations!
- After arguing against something Sudha Jagannathan regards as purely based on anecdote, not on data, she then makes an argument based on her personal experiences. That’s a data point of one person’s experience or - an anecdote.
I was also going to state what Andy Green (in these comments) has already stated very nicely earlier.
People who lives in west, how tf they experiencing caste differences, i dont get thhat
its nothing but their hate against hindus living abroad
I met a Brahmin guy in Australia and he was very open about the fact that he regularly beat lower caste members whilst in India and had plenty of derogatory things to say about the local lower caste population in Australia.
😊😂
I would have thrashed him in front of everyone. I am an OC but will not tolerate such BS coming from anyone.
Iranian origin master race.
Stop lying dude....I know u r product of reservation who is a fool at the top
Why did Australia even allow him in the country?
Glad to see this change.
As an Indian American, I’ve never experienced this in the workplace ever. However, I’m not surprised it’s happening. I’ve seen tons of recent Indian immigrants using “tradition” as the basis for justifying their outdated beliefs.
Mrs Jagannathan, what are the possible harms of banning caste-discrimination towards Hindus Americans? If there is truly no evidence of caste discrimination in America like she claimed, then she has nothing to gain from protesting against it. Yet she label an anti-discrimination law as racist, she is fighting to protect the higher caste where she was born into.
I fully expect Indians to take this in stride as a valid criticism of the class structures that are still very much entrenched in our society. What I don't expect us to do is deflect this as a Western attack on Hinduism and India as a whole.
You only hide it if you are guilty.
This is a western attack. Rajiv Malhotra had warned of this insidious agenda few months back and not surprisingly it is now coming out in the open. Read about the Afro-Dalit project.
First remove reservati0n
Caste discrimination in India is everywhere. It is omnipresent and the so called upper castes are the main culprits. Despite them being educated, they have not been able to come out from their caste mentality and that is disheartening. Am happy to see that America has taken a step and has done the right thing for others to follow.
If you want to dismantle caste based discrimination, start with changing your surname
I always thought it was an insane system. We are all human.
I think she didn't know lower caste peoples are also from hindu religion but she think her caste is only hindu. She has sick mentality
No one should be discriminated against. We are all a cog in the wheel of humanity. We are all relevant!!!
putrid baggage of supremacist prejudices shipped with H-1B visas in the name of hyped culture and useless traditions
Yet half of us can't vote without signing up for the Selective Service. Look how well that worked for Ukrainain men
@THE ZOLDICS the caste system is older than the British
I'm very much opposed to useless laws.
This is clearly a needed.
So according to "upper"-caste stooge Sudha, we need data to pass a law to ban discrimination on the basis of caste. What is she babbling about? Do we need data to ban discrimination on the basis of race or skin color? Do we need data to ban discrimination against old people?
The guest is very ignorant. There many that have been tried and prosecuted in Silicon Valley. IBM had a lawsuit for caste based discrimination a year or two ago.
5:52 They only group that this law negatively impacts is Indians at the top of the caste system who benefit from discriminating against Indians at the bottom of the caste system.
All of the Indians at the bottom of the caste system are rejoicing, so I can't agree with her.
Why is this woman arguing against the ban of caste discrimination?
Coz she is a brahmin
@@dushyantchahal2881 Ah, so that's why she says she has not experienced the effect of caste
@THE ZOLDICS with Rwanda you know fully well the outcome of the caste system don't you? The Rwandan people want any thing to do with it anymore. Look also at Somalia now! If India wants to become a real superpower it needs to fix this caste thing soon, otherwise it's enemies will use it to bring it down
@THE ZOLDICS you personality needs to marry a Dalit or give your child in marriage to one. You'll feel the greatest happiness you could only dreamt of
Because her community (brahmin) believe they are god chosen and have birth right to lord over lower castes (not god chosen). Lower caste are created just to serve these god chosen community.
It's pretty apparent in hiring for tech jobs too. I have noticed that a lot in my almost two decades of stay in the US.
That lady was all full of "me, myself and I". If she did not experience casteism in India and the USA, it does not mean others do not experience it at all.
She says the person facing the discrimination is Nepali not even Indian . T f U talking about.
If she thinks there's no discrimination then how does the discrimination ban cause a net negative?
“Sanctuary City”. Good job showing your stripes at the end.
racists and supremacists may come in different shapes, sizes, accents, colours and ..... VISAs ! 🙏
Sorry I dont get it. How would a person know what caste are other people from especially after thdy migrate to another country ?
The lady clearly targeting the people who are n favor of BAN with their affiliation and by other means, who will believe she is NOT being racist in her private business.
Cast discrimination still exists and practiced in India. You can go anywhere in India you will find it. Wherever you go in India, you will find people who are more interested to know about your caste and then their behaviour towards you automatically changes. This discrimination training starts from home at very early stage of life by elders. This discrimination is like a cancer to the society.