The Most Dangerous Spot on the Great Lakes

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  • Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024

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  • @RottenAnimal
    @RottenAnimal 3 месяца назад +53

    I'm 67 years old. When I was a kid my father worked as a cook on ships, for 15 years, going all over the world. He'd be home for a week or two every 3 or 4 months. He said, many times the storms on the great lakes were worst than the storms on the oceans. The oceans are salt water and the ships ride higher in the water.
    He told me some of the storms were so terrifying that if he lives through that storm he'll quit but, after a few weeks he said, I'm over it and going back out.

    • @missthang4982
      @missthang4982 3 месяца назад +4

      Love this story. Ty❤️

    • @RottenAnimal
      @RottenAnimal 3 месяца назад +2

      @@missthang4982 I'm Canadian and my father was a merchant marine, for 5 years. taking supplies to the UK during ww2. His ship was never torpedoed but, other were.

    • @missthang4982
      @missthang4982 3 месяца назад +1

      @@RottenAnimal ✝️🙏

  • @ginamiller6015
    @ginamiller6015 3 месяца назад +12

    Ric is a true gem of the Great Lakes region. We really enjoy his writings and his videos. I hope to see him in person someday.

  • @LadyYoop
    @LadyYoop 3 месяца назад +63

    Excellant job!! Some bodies end up as fish food. Some are slammed against rocks...my nephew is a state police diver...and found the bottom half of a man...because he had jeans on. Yep..don't mess with Mother Superior....she'll get ya.

    • @mercoid
      @mercoid 3 месяца назад +4

      She gunna git-chaa!!!

    • @LadyYoop
      @LadyYoop 3 месяца назад +1

      @@mercoid oh you got dat~

    • @SessaV
      @SessaV 3 месяца назад +6

      My uncle Thor (that was his real name) was ice fishing off the tip of the Keweenaw in his back yard and then he was just gone. His gear was found, but he never was.
      Took 7 years for him to be declared dead

    • @BrandonPepper-iz6rh
      @BrandonPepper-iz6rh 3 месяца назад +1

      @@mercoidleave Star Wars alone damn you!!!

    • @LadyYoop
      @LadyYoop 3 месяца назад +3

      @@SessaV I am so sorry to hear that. I had friends that went through the ice, and thankfully were able to find and get back out of that hole. I had a friend tell me he was sitting on a bucket, ice fishing and a wave came along and the next thing he knew, he was sitting on the ice. That was good enough for me. I never went on the ice. I am so sorry about your Uncle Thor.

  • @susanb4816
    @susanb4816 3 месяца назад +26

    Lightfoot lyrics: the legend lives on from the chipewa on down to the big lake they call gitchigoomi. Not a chipewa legend but a reference to the chipewa river in ontario

  • @thecliffdweller1212
    @thecliffdweller1212 3 месяца назад +17

    Hi! Really enjoyed this video. Many stories I have heard in the past, you've brought to life with great images and illustrations. I was USCG on Lake Erie in the 70's during the great steelhead runs. The shallow pond effect will toss low-slung fishing skiffs and pleasure boats around something fierce in a gail. This is what contributes to many deaths on the water in Erie.
    GRAPHIC: Re; "Give up her dead" This I learned doing Search & Rescue in the Great Lakes. The cold waters of Superior will preserve a submerged body for months until a storm circulates enough warming to begin decomposition. Only then will gasses inflate the chest cavity and buoy the torso to the surface. There is something to the legend after all.

    • @tommygreen3338
      @tommygreen3338 3 месяца назад +4

      This is amazing to me. In high school, I had to choose an author to do an essay on. I chose Gordon Lightfoot, and had to write out 3 of his works and present them. Of course, The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald was one of my choices. I never understood what "give up her dead" meant until today. Thank you very much for taking the time to share this very interesting bit of information and finally completing my essay some 39 years later.

  • @michel333100
    @michel333100 3 месяца назад +18

    I am 73 years old now. I am from Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada and I am the real deal. I spent my entire life sailing for Canada Steamship lines and Algoma. 43 years in the worst storms you could ever imagine. You should be interviewing me. I could tell you some real stories.

    • @MontgomeryMcIntosh
      @MontgomeryMcIntosh 3 месяца назад +4

      Yeah man, someone has to interview you for sure.

    • @michel333100
      @michel333100 3 месяца назад +5

      I have sailed the world. I have lived in Japan with my father and I was born in the south of France. I have sailed to the world. The north sea with Americans with the Canadian Coast Guard. I have been to the Artic and Greenland and Iceland. And every American port on the east coast. I have seen the world for free. I never waited for the world to come to me. I went after it instead of complaining. I have seen the worst of times and the best of times. Life is so much what you make it. I am retired today with a beautiful home and cockerspaniel. I am also an avid musician. Played guitar most of my life. But my sailing stories need to be told. I am the real deal. Been through hurricanes and everything and back on the Atlantic and Great Lakes.

    • @MontgomeryMcIntosh
      @MontgomeryMcIntosh 3 месяца назад +1

      @@michel333100 I want to be like you someday man! I read a book by Joshua Slocum before about sailing around the world and I've been dreaming of sailing around the world since. I grew up on Lake Ontario and was in Sea cadets for a bit, got to go to camp and sail at RMC Kingston. I may never actually get the chance to sail again let alone around the world, but when I think of the type of man I can be someday, I want to sail around the world and really rough it.

    • @michel333100
      @michel333100 3 месяца назад +5

      You should do it. Join the seafarers international union in Thorold. I originally came to Canada from California in 1969 during the Vietnam War and had very hard life getting established in Canada. I have lived here since I was 18. Sailing made me a good life. I am bilingual in French and English..there's nothing compares to sailing and seeing the world. It's a lonely life but an exciting one. Just do it. You won't regret it. Love Canada and proud to be a Canadian

    • @MontgomeryMcIntosh
      @MontgomeryMcIntosh 3 месяца назад

      @@michel333100 I have a criminal record

  • @ut000bs
    @ut000bs 3 месяца назад +2

    My uncle was on a Great Lakes tugboat for about twenty years in the 1950s and 60s. He lived on Michigan's Upper Peninsula near Marquette.
    I actually went and worked a job near Marquette from August to March back in the 80s. The wildest winter I ever saw.

  • @sherri2441
    @sherri2441 3 месяца назад +30

    Born and raised in Chicago… Every time they warn not to go by the lake because of strong winds and waves what do they do they go by the lake and fall in and have to be rescued! It happens all the time! people don’t realize the power of Lake Michigan

    • @DblIre
      @DblIre 3 месяца назад +1

      My mother and some of her family were saved because one of her aunts was late meeting them at a Chicago breakwater for fishing. A seich came across the lake and washed a number of people off the breakwater causing their deaths. This was in the 1920s or early 30s.

    • @KmvS86
      @KmvS86 2 месяца назад

      I live 20 min drive north of Lake Erie and 15 mins south of lake Huron in SW ontario. Ive had 8 friends drown growing up.

    • @KmvS86
      @KmvS86 2 месяца назад

      I agree. Michigan is the worst. All the lakes are dangerous and need to be shown respect

  • @Steven-em5if
    @Steven-em5if 3 месяца назад +5

    I grew up and live in the UP. I have fished Superior many times and always amazes me at the depth. I usually fish by White Fish point. I remember stream fishing when the Friz. went down. A tree came down close to me in the wind! I went home then!

  • @Chris-zm7kg
    @Chris-zm7kg 3 месяца назад +15

    I have seen some crazy winter storms over Superior in my day, I wouldn't be out there it is the stuff of legend.

    • @repetitivemotion
      @repetitivemotion 3 месяца назад +2

      Me too. Snowmobiling in January on the shoreline trail in Marquette

  • @garydelcourt2791
    @garydelcourt2791 3 месяца назад +5

    Great job Ric!! Very informative and educational!

  • @jameskelman9856
    @jameskelman9856 3 месяца назад +2

    Nicely done ! I have scuba dived wrecks on Lake Huron and Georgian Bay . There is a very impressive history under the waves .

  • @Jamesherd-po6ez
    @Jamesherd-po6ez 3 месяца назад +5

    Very informative,thanks for posting.

  • @GEORGEARTHUROTISKRUSE
    @GEORGEARTHUROTISKRUSE 3 месяца назад +11

    Most storms on Lake Superior move in a west-to-east direction. Winds travel undisturbed over hundreds of miles of open water, which allows waves to build in size. By the time they get to the eastern end of the lake they can be truly monstrous. There is a reason the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum is located at Whitefish Point.

  • @robertmueller372
    @robertmueller372 3 месяца назад +4

    Very Interesting video! Thank you! I believe we saw you in person last November in South Haven, MI giving a presentation on the Edmond Fitzgerald. Ironic My Granddaughter and I were standing on the very ramp not 2 weeks ago as we introduced her to the shipwrecks of the great lakes. Thanks again for all your great work!

  • @mikeyd5969
    @mikeyd5969 3 месяца назад +37

    Problem with Lake Erie it’s shallow, it can go from flat to deadly in less than an hour .

    • @williamsporing1500
      @williamsporing1500 3 месяца назад +6

      Plus, the waves are closer together. It gets NASTY, and FAST.

    • @powershop1903
      @powershop1903 3 месяца назад +1

      How big do the waves get?

    • @buyystocks
      @buyystocks 3 месяца назад +5

      years ago left LaSalle park and the water was like glass, 3 hrs later in near the steel plant and winds kicked up 10 ft swelling waves, I'm I'm a 16 ft fishing boat getting tossed around,

    • @alexdegross6248
      @alexdegross6248 3 месяца назад +2

      Amen. I’m currently in vermilion Ohio and I have to constantly remind tourists to respect the lake. Always tell them the same thing god always forgives man forgives sometimes and nature never forgives

    • @mikeyd5969
      @mikeyd5969 3 месяца назад +2

      @@alexdegross6248 we lost 2 brothers out there 2 weeks ago due to bad judgment. Right off of Perry powerhouse

  • @billyhighfill
    @billyhighfill 3 месяца назад +7

    Splendid video!! Thanks for sharing

  • @ts109
    @ts109 3 месяца назад +3

    Great video, very well done.

  • @kevincocking8561
    @kevincocking8561 3 месяца назад +9

    my family were lighthouse keepers on superior they told some interesting stories about the old days

  • @danalarose846
    @danalarose846 3 месяца назад +8

    I didn't know that Ric was in my hometown of manistique Michigan recently. I would've been there.

  • @laahaalaahaa
    @laahaalaahaa 3 месяца назад

    Chicagoan here who kayaks the river regularly!
    Even as calm as it is most of the time, it's still water, and every time I go out on it I think of the Eastland and remind myself of my safety precautions. I was honestly kinda surprised to see it included in a list about the lakes since it wasn't actually on the lake, but I love seeing people bring attention to it!
    I also def learned about new incidents I'd never heard of before from this video. Very informative.

  • @MapleSyrupPoet
    @MapleSyrupPoet 2 месяца назад +2

    Very good 👍 👏

  • @livethegimmick24-7
    @livethegimmick24-7 3 месяца назад +8

    Our family has a summer cottage at Long Point on Hastings Drive for just over 100 years. Erie is a strange lake with many quirks that are very dangerous to those not familiar with it. You can be 1 mile from shore and sitting in 4 ft of water and visible sandbars, only to find those sandbars not there 2 days later. The amount of sand moved by the undertows are significant. It's a deadly lake even to those that have been here for as long as my family.

    • @miketybring4700
      @miketybring4700 Месяц назад

      That's why l always went to Lake Huron to go boating. Also with it being shallow it was always murky where as Lake Huron was pretty clear most times unless a big storm rolled thru. I have been caught out in some pretty scary times on Lake Huron, the weather changes quick out there.

  • @shnibby69
    @shnibby69 3 месяца назад +2

    Great storytelling!

  • @KmvS86
    @KmvS86 2 месяца назад

    Phenomenal video and great history lesson.

  • @JimmyChewsShoes
    @JimmyChewsShoes 3 месяца назад +25

    Superior 'never gives up her dead' because the water is so cold it inhibits bacterial growth. A body that sinks to the bottom of the lake won't bloat up with buoyant gas and rise to the surface.

  • @executivesteps
    @executivesteps 3 месяца назад +1

    Well done by every count. Thanks.

  • @freddykruger6194
    @freddykruger6194 3 месяца назад +2

    Got stuck in a storm off the tip of long point on the CCGS Constable Carriere in October 2013. We got slapped around pretty good but made it though. The whole crew was shook up and we had seasoned coasties that sailed in the North Atlantic for years that never experienced anything like it. Too close for comfort

  • @deb-deb17
    @deb-deb17 3 месяца назад

    best explanation in forever!!!

  • @JoeThornFreedom
    @JoeThornFreedom 3 месяца назад

    I spent two weeks camping at Long point every year for 38 years. Those sandbars and that beach changes on the daily. I’ve always thought the Long Point Long Harbour, some of the most shipwrecks in all of the great lakes region.

  • @danielfreeman7894
    @danielfreeman7894 3 месяца назад +5

    I live in Alexandria bay that’s awesome!!!!!!!

  • @bar9973
    @bar9973 2 месяца назад

    My wife and I drove up to Whitefish Point for the one and only time we ever visited the place. It was in mid summer of 1998 and I recall looking north-northwest and thinking about the SS Edmund Fitzgerald's crew 17 miles away and 535 feet below the surface. We were there on a calm warm sunny day and it was hard to imagine waves as high as 25 feet 23 years earlier. I wonder if there’s ever been a storm like that since November 10, 1975.
    It seems like the last rough winter we experienced was in the 1990s. I’m 80 and have lived in St Paul since my family moved here from MD in 1956. From the 1950s to the 1990s we usually had much more snow and extreme cold. i recall walking to school one morning when it was -34 F and I really appreciated the heavy snowstorms that caused my school to close. Although I enjoyed cold snowy winters during my younger days, I’m thankful about the mild winters in recent years. But when we moved to MN I was 12 and greatly looking forward to all the snow, unlike MD where the small amount of snow we had melted quickly. We would have to get our sleds and rush outside before the snow vanished.

  • @phillipgarrow2297
    @phillipgarrow2297 3 месяца назад +10

    As far as drowning lake Michigan holds the record

    • @ToledoTerps
      @ToledoTerps 3 месяца назад +1

      It’s one of the few lakes worth swimming in. I know I wouldn’t swim in Erie or near any city LOL

  • @mikeprokop2398
    @mikeprokop2398 3 месяца назад

    Well done..very imp.too do good research. ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @pburgvenom
    @pburgvenom 3 месяца назад +1

    ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Nice video Sir

  • @kevinwall6497
    @kevinwall6497 3 месяца назад +3

    Lake Erie boater out of Vermillion here. When the winds pick up you get out quick because that lake with only a 20-40ft depth in most places it will whip up some crazy waves in no time at all. Typically gets bad with North winds.

  • @conquistador69420
    @conquistador69420 2 месяца назад +1

    I have a map handed down from my grandpa a mariner who shunted coal, across from port burwell, to Ohio , we counted 200

  • @miketybring4700
    @miketybring4700 Месяц назад

    The morale of the story is too stay away from White Fish Bay during the months of November. I owned a couple boats, I never went out on the water after Thanksgiving weekend. Even then you're taking your chances.

  • @leechjim8023
    @leechjim8023 3 месяца назад +1

    I always thought Superior was the most dangerous.

  • @TheoSmith249
    @TheoSmith249 Месяц назад

    Polygons of peril! I have heard enough.

  • @christopherwelch136
    @christopherwelch136 3 месяца назад +7

    Anywhere swimming in Lake Erie… .

    • @windowlicker6996
      @windowlicker6996 3 месяца назад

      Long point is nice. Hear of people drowning there fairly often though. People keep swimming out thinking that there will be another sand bar only to find strong currents. It feels like every time we go out that way we hear of someone who just drowned there.

  • @lenp00
    @lenp00 3 месяца назад +1

    It’s well documented that there are over 300 wrecks off the shores of Long Point, as well as two airplanes.

  • @bobtate6812
    @bobtate6812 3 месяца назад +1

    Fish Lake Ontario every day from April to October. Know well how dangerous it can be. Today July 19 water temperature at 150' feet deep was 42F.

  • @sammyvh11
    @sammyvh11 3 месяца назад +5

    Lots of the old wrecks and deaths are due to lack of gps/electronics. poor weather reports without radar, and archaic communications

  • @jeffpotipco736
    @jeffpotipco736 3 месяца назад +1

    There are more wrecks on Erie because its had more traffic for a longer time.

  • @ajaxmaintenance5104
    @ajaxmaintenance5104 3 месяца назад

    The storms on Lake Erie can sneak up on you without warning. I know people who said they were lucky to have beaten a storm back to shore.

  • @whitemoonwolf13
    @whitemoonwolf13 3 месяца назад

    superior never gives up her dead is something i remember my grandfather telling me. he used to go boating all around southern ontario but he never did lake superior.

  • @cathysmith1555
    @cathysmith1555 3 месяца назад +5

    Superior is the most beautiful lake but is a legend

    • @williamsporing1500
      @williamsporing1500 3 месяца назад

      That’s the only Great Lake I haven’t seen. It’s on my list.

    • @cathysmith1555
      @cathysmith1555 3 месяца назад

      @@williamsporing1500 if you only have time to visit a few places, go to whitefish point and the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum. Walk along the beach there and look out and see how vast the big lake is 😊. It’s in Paradise only an hour drive from Sault Ste. Marie

  • @stevewindisch7400
    @stevewindisch7400 3 месяца назад

    I don't know about totals of dead, but the Western end of Erie near The Islands can be very dangerous in late summer and September... From insanely powerful and fast-moving thunder storms. Wind shears of 100 MPH have been recorded. I've seen them come suddenly from the Northwest, turning the entire sky green, with 6 or 7 water spouts in a line in front of the roiling thunderheads, lightening constantly coursing amongst the clouds. The initial gusts are over 60 MPH . All this within 30 minutes of a calm, sunny day. They don't last long, but when they hit the Ohio coast tornadoes often occur inland. Not just the Western end, either... I've seen them hit Fairport Harbor about 30 miles East of Cleveland. Once, the force of the storm pushing water upriver rose the Grand River 10 feet over normal levels. You really need to check the weather report before going out; you can't trust what the sky is currently doing.

  • @thumpyloudfoot864
    @thumpyloudfoot864 2 месяца назад

    The Bruce is pretty treacherous, Tobermory alone has around 30 shipwrecks.....

  • @joeblow2580
    @joeblow2580 3 месяца назад +1

    Muskegon Heights

  • @jerrylagesse9046
    @jerrylagesse9046 3 месяца назад +6

    From Superior . Dont respect the lake ? She will kill you

  • @michaelchamberlain4618
    @michaelchamberlain4618 3 месяца назад +2

    I'm a Chamberlain

  • @marklittle8805
    @marklittle8805 3 месяца назад +1

    Each lake has its history of tragedy. Superior with the big storms is scary. Michigan and Huron are littered with ships from big storms. Tobermory has wrecks all around it.
    Erie and Ontario have their own histories. The eastern end of Lake Ontario is littered with wrecks with all the rocky shoals. Erie is just plain nasty with waves out of no where. No one can claim one over the other. ..

  • @jamesgoldstien1468
    @jamesgoldstien1468 3 месяца назад

    Have you seen the painting on the rocks of that flying monster?? Go look it up

    • @CKritNinja
      @CKritNinja  3 месяца назад

      mishipeshu- the underwater panther? Or do you mean Animkiig (thunderbirds?) Neither keep the dead on the bottom of the lake- but fantastic mythology!

  • @jimregier
    @jimregier 3 месяца назад +4

    You never mentioned Lake Huron . Seriously ?

    • @CKritNinja
      @CKritNinja  3 месяца назад +3

      I did mention Thunder Bay. Seriously!

    • @jimregier
      @jimregier 3 месяца назад

      @@CKritNinja Exactley . You mentioned Thunder Bay . Your only reference to Lake Huron .

    • @stevestruthers6180
      @stevestruthers6180 3 месяца назад +1

      I grew up in Sarnia, Ontario, which sits on the southern shore of Lake Huron where it joins up with the St. Clair River. Both the river and the lakeshore have their share of wrecks. In the late fall and early winter months, the storms that visit these places can be quite wicked.

    • @jessedevilbiss8436
      @jessedevilbiss8436 3 месяца назад

      Lake Huron is basically Canada. Who cares about Canada. God Bless Michigan

    • @40below1000
      @40below1000 3 месяца назад +4

      I grew up in Kincardine on Lake Huron and I remember diving off the many rusty boilers left over when steamers exploded in shallow shore waters 100 years previously. They're probably still there, 100,000 pounds of cast iron isn't going anywhere

  • @aronyak1
    @aronyak1 3 месяца назад +1

    Birdperson lives at Lake Tahoe?

  • @johnking6252
    @johnking6252 3 месяца назад +1

    Lake St Clair north of Detroit although being small? has it's fair share of boating incidents! Just saying. 👍

    • @stevestruthers6180
      @stevestruthers6180 3 месяца назад +1

      I remember going fishing on Lake St. Clair with a buddy in early April one year, and it was super-choppy.

  • @repetitivemotion
    @repetitivemotion 3 месяца назад

    Whitefish point.

  • @Mike-hu3pp
    @Mike-hu3pp 2 месяца назад +1

    Did the SS Edmund Fitzgerald not sink in Superior?

  • @KmvS86
    @KmvS86 2 месяца назад

    8:56 $267.92

  • @KnightOwl-kn6gm
    @KnightOwl-kn6gm 3 месяца назад

    No thanks. I think i'm just going to stay ashore after all. lol

  • @kathyr2792
    @kathyr2792 3 месяца назад

    Sounds like Captains Arrogance Syndrome led to a lot of these wrecks.

  • @DevinBrotherton
    @DevinBrotherton 2 месяца назад

    Ah yes a story of the lakes but only from the states 😂

  • @kometfan1977
    @kometfan1977 Месяц назад

    Why does he feel the need to always dog Gordon Lightfoot and his lyrics? Are there inaccuracies? Sure, but saying Cleveland fit the song better than Toledo. Calling the Maritime Sailors Cathedral a musty old hall, wasn't an insult, just words to help the song. It's a song, let it go, stop feeling the need to pick it apart.

    • @CKritNinja
      @CKritNinja  Месяц назад

      Gordon Lightfoot will forever be a hero for bringing attention to the Great Lakes- but I don't think it's "dogging" him to point out historical inaccuracies. If the song is the only information people get about Superior, the mining industry, Edmund Fitzgerald, or the cook on board.. I think it's fair to correct it. He himself changed the lyrics.. showing it was more than a song to him. I feel the same way. :)

  • @macrosense
    @macrosense 3 месяца назад

    Detroit is the most dangerous wreck on the great lakes

  • @JRPetruk
    @JRPetruk 3 месяца назад

    I can't stand it when a perfectly good documentary video gets corrupted by the maker's beliefs in dumb urban legends like "mystery triangles".

    • @CKritNinja
      @CKritNinja  3 месяца назад

      You clearly didn't catch the narrator's "Polygons of Peril" sarcasm. But that's okay!

  • @bold810
    @bold810 3 месяца назад

    The nonpareil safest place in ALL THE GREAT LAKES, 😌😌😌, is California, you Beautiful MidWest Women. You should come out from Iowa, and Indiana, and Illinois, come to the West Coast and find your heart's release and comfort. Haven't you ever taken a chance, cast your Heart into being someone who could fall in Love? ..come, darling hearts, We are good out here.. if you can want to find us, Love..✌️🎉❤️

  • @CBe-ot8vu
    @CBe-ot8vu Месяц назад

    Superior average depth is 800feet. Over 1200 feet deep in its deepest spots

  • @darlenehoward-l4j
    @darlenehoward-l4j 2 месяца назад

    bs i lived up by the great lakes n all over that wayer up by thunder bay why do people give bs stories