I love it when tutorialists get straight to the point and not give an entire discussion of useless information the first 5 minutes of a video. Good job man 👍🏻
heads up, you should NEVER grade with proxies turned on. that would be like grading a low quality video you ripped off RUclips vs. grading actual raw footage out of a camera. When grading you should be looking at the full latitude of sensor data that your camera provides, ie/the raw footage, so make sure proxies are OFF. All your exposure/dynamic range/resolution/colour bit depth etc... is highly compressed in a proxy file, it's only meant for faster assembling/effects application/playback
Not necessarily, if you grade using the lumetri scopes for reference/boundaries you should be fine as far as clipping/crushing/overdoing goes, even if you grade with proxies on once you take them off it’ll grade the regular footage accordingly. You can even toggle it off just to see how your changes look on the original footage, then toggle the proxies back on to continue grading, repeating the process until you’re finished. I can understand you saying this if someone is trying to grade purely off their eyesight with proxies, obviously they won’t be able to have an accurate representation of what they’re changing since everything will be low res/pixelated. But again, if you know how to read the lumetri scopes you should be fine. Making grading/correction changes on proxies doesn’t ruin the final footage when said changes are applied. Just saying this because chances are if you need to make proxies, your computer probably can’t handle grading the original footage also. Which will make for a much longer and annoying grading process that’ll probably defeat the whole purpose of making proxies in the first place… you’re not wrong from a precision standpoint but someone may get confused reading your comment, thinking that if they grade with proxies toggled on, it will ruin the original/final footage. That’s not true (as long as you export the original files of course).
@@alexanderforde4318 I think you're confusing a few things here. I'm not saying grading proxies damages final footage. The point is that proxy files are a compressed transcode of your original raw file in every sense of the word. If you base your lumetri scopes on the proxy footage, you aren't looking at the full latitude of sensor info available to you from the nice expensive camera you dropped your hard earned cash on. Your dynamic range, bit depth, exposure, colour palette are all - from a technical standpoint - cut down and capped (hence why the scopes will shrink in size when you toggle from RAW to proxy). It would be like getting an expensive camera which shoots 4k/16-bit and deciding to always set it to 540p/6-bit and work from that footage. To the naked eye it might not look like much, but say you shot a scene a stop or two underexposed and you wanted to save it and lift it in post - the amount of sensor exposure information in your shadows that's been compressed/lost on a proxy file would make that impossible, resulting in a grey, dull wash of undefined noise once you lifted it in lumetri vs. if you were going off your RAW file, you would have much more of a chance of that working as you'd be working with the maximum sensor information available to you/your camera. I work in the commercials and feature world and been lucky enough to work with or observe some of the best colourists in the industry, if you even suggested grading proxies they'd burn you at the cross! I'm only saying this so nobody starting out gets confused or gets into bad habits, it is absolutely not the way to work. The machine you have to do all your post work on should absolutely be a consideration when buying a camera as well. Like you said if your computer can't handle RAW footage (like a large percentage of people), proxies are only meant for assembly and edit where sensor information doesn't matter. But you only need one frame of a scene to grade it, most people can at least load up 1 RAW frame at 8k to get what they need. If you know you can't work with 4k footage then maybe consider upgrading computer first or just don't buy a camera that shoots 8k as like you said it'll make for a very annoying (if not impossible) grading experience!
@@broadwayphotovideo Generally speaking you don't need to playback anything to grade a scene (unless you've shot it in a way where your exposures are changing a lot within the same shot). You only need one frame. So if you can load up a RAW shot at 8k without playing back in your timeline so that it only renders one frame, then that would work. You could toggle your proxies on while you scrub through the timeline to find your shot, then once you've found it toggle the proxies off and Premiere would then render just that frame your playhead is on currently and you could grade it from there and rinse and repeat. Do you need to deliver in 8k? You could just work with your RAWs on a 4k timeline which would be less taxing, or make high quality transcodes (as opposed to proxies) in a different codec (such as Pro Res 422 HQ or 4444) or at different resolutions which would sacrifice a lot less quality than proxies and work very well for grade (although this is still not the "full" image data, but a better option than proxies if you've got no other choice). Ideally you have a machine that can handle whatever it is you've chosen to shoot on. I wouldn't buy an Alexa to shoot ARRI RAW because I know my current computer would never work with it (well, that and I don't have £40k+ to spend on a camera haha). If you're having to work with and deliver 8k footage then ideally you'd have considered your post workflow and have the computer to handle it
Wow.. you just explained proxies so clearly.. this video is the best one to learn about creating proxies. Previously i hv watched some videos on how to make proxies, but they were so difficult to undustand. This video just made it so clear . Thank u Kyler.
@@KYLERHOLLAND Sir I want a suggestion from you. I'm going to buy a laptop but have a low budget. So, should I buy a laptop with at great budget without graphics card & use these proxies or I should buy Laptop with graphics card as it's one time investment. BTW I am really not a hardcore editor, I just edit normal YT videos.
I know this is super late but you have to interpret your 4K 120 to 24fps in premiere and then create proxies for your slow motion clips with the same 24fps setting in media encoder before the export starts!
Daamnnn.... I was editing my gaming videos but they were choppy as hell... I started using Premiere Pro for about a week but didn't know about this... You are a lifesaver man....😍😍😍😍😍
I normally don't comment... but I've been struggling with choppy and laggy editing for a while and somehow never knew about proxies... this just changed everything, thank you for the quick and well explained tutorial!
Proxies are awesome! CineForm and ProRes proxies are accelerated on my NVidia GPU in my Windows machine... so they are buttery smooth! I used to make CineForm proxies but they can be very large... basically doubling or tripling the amount of disk space you need while editing a project. But with ProRes... the proxies can be much smaller. Regardless of which kind you use... proxies are great! 😁
I'll definitely look into that! I'll be shooting in Apple ProRes RAW with my Sony A7S iii + Atomos Ninja V. I'm expecting MASSIVE video files so any tips for organizing footage will help. :D
@@KYLERHOLLAND You'll wanna do a test of the various flavors of proxies to see what works best for you. I use "ProRes Medium Resolution" because it's a nice balance of file size and resolution. It's 1280x720 which looks fine to me. But the "Low Resolution" proxies are 1024x540 which don't look great. In the old days... the CineForm proxies didn't offer a choice in resolutions... and they were HUGE! I'm glad we have better options now! 😎
Thank you, I am editing on a MacBook Pro from late 2011 and my 1080p footage always lags in Premiere Pro, I've heard lots of talk about proxies but nobody could explain it correctly. Your video is just what I needed. Thanks, off to create some proxies now!
Thank you so much! Been trying to find exactly this- a fast and simple explanation/tutorial. Worked perfect and going to start doing this moving forward!
This was liquid gold for me. Thanks for the info! I do gotta bust yer chops about the 9 second endpage though. Ha! Keep "Fast Friday" as the title anyway. You ROCK!!!
This is very helpful, I'm editing 8k footage for the first time. It was shot on a RED Raptor and the cinematographer was able to make proxies in camera in real time. Now I just need to figure out the best way to bridge proxies from Premiere to After Effects so as not to have to render shots and import in between.
Thank god for this ! I was flipping out about my premier freeing on my mac book pro 16gb 2015 model. I was about to upgrade the SSD and was looking for eGPU ( external graphics processing ) extreme I know but yeah. Proxies for the win !
1st great video...2nd I have a question..after you click the proxy button to enable editing faster...when you finish your editing, don't you click that proxy button again, to turn off your proxy to not render the proxy video?
Would proxies be worth it to edit full streams of clips that are 5-10 hours a clip? I started making one but for one video it's going to take 16+ hours
off topic, but since when did you make the semicircular motion on the recording? was the camera on dolly? or on sliders and heads where your face was tracked? thanks! :)
Okay now that was resolved. Now what about the animation I will add through dynamic linking in AE? Will I still have to do it in 4k in AE too? Because 4K comp also lags the scene down.
the best explanation and quick video about proxy files thanks mate , i still have a doubts about the fps of each clip , for example , on a project i film all in 4K but some of original files are 60fps and some 120 fps , when i generate proxies , premiere pro make them with the same fps ? so that if i slow down some footages at least i can see what im doing and how it doe look like ? cheers mate !! keep on rocking
I understand heavy workloads cause PC crashing/Freezing but if you have a powerful PC with like minimum 64Gb+ RAM 🐏 should that be good enough to not need proxy support? Hmm 🤔 Awesome tip for editing regardless 🙌
Nice!!! I have been trying FHD 60fps/IPB Standar - Clog3 in my laptop with proxi and still laggy 🥲 and trying 4K 24fps/IPB Light-Clog 3 and very very smooth in my laptop. I don't know why, can you tell me? is it about choosing IPB Light?
this is the only way to edit. had a lil issue where media encoder didnt start encoding automatically....just had to wait it out and the file came up. thanks.
I love it when tutorialists get straight to the point and not give an entire discussion of useless information the first 5 minutes of a video.
Good job man 👍🏻
Tutors not tutoralists PMSL maybe you should pay more attention to your English Tutor LOOOL
Oh yes! I freaking hate when you're 3 - 4 min and they finally get to the effen point. Drives me cra cra.
this was so simple, clear, straight to the point and NOT confusing. Thank You!
heads up, you should NEVER grade with proxies turned on. that would be like grading a low quality video you ripped off RUclips vs. grading actual raw footage out of a camera. When grading you should be looking at the full latitude of sensor data that your camera provides, ie/the raw footage, so make sure proxies are OFF. All your exposure/dynamic range/resolution/colour bit depth etc... is highly compressed in a proxy file, it's only meant for faster assembling/effects application/playback
Not necessarily, if you grade using the lumetri scopes for reference/boundaries you should be fine as far as clipping/crushing/overdoing goes, even if you grade with proxies on once you take them off it’ll grade the regular footage accordingly. You can even toggle it off just to see how your changes look on the original footage, then toggle the proxies back on to continue grading, repeating the process until you’re finished.
I can understand you saying this if someone is trying to grade purely off their eyesight with proxies, obviously they won’t be able to have an accurate representation of what they’re changing since everything will be low res/pixelated. But again, if you know how to read the lumetri scopes you should be fine. Making grading/correction changes on proxies doesn’t ruin the final footage when said changes are applied.
Just saying this because chances are if you need to make proxies, your computer probably can’t handle grading the original footage also. Which will make for a much longer and annoying grading process that’ll probably defeat the whole purpose of making proxies in the first place… you’re not wrong from a precision standpoint but someone may get confused reading your comment, thinking that if they grade with proxies toggled on, it will ruin the original/final footage. That’s not true (as long as you export the original files of course).
So what’s your solution for grading an 8k video that can’t be viewed because it locks up the timeline?
@@alexanderforde4318 I think you're confusing a few things here. I'm not saying grading proxies damages final footage. The point is that proxy files are a compressed transcode of your original raw file in every sense of the word. If you base your lumetri scopes on the proxy footage, you aren't looking at the full latitude of sensor info available to you from the nice expensive camera you dropped your hard earned cash on. Your dynamic range, bit depth, exposure, colour palette are all - from a technical standpoint - cut down and capped (hence why the scopes will shrink in size when you toggle from RAW to proxy). It would be like getting an expensive camera which shoots 4k/16-bit and deciding to always set it to 540p/6-bit and work from that footage.
To the naked eye it might not look like much, but say you shot a scene a stop or two underexposed and you wanted to save it and lift it in post - the amount of sensor exposure information in your shadows that's been compressed/lost on a proxy file would make that impossible, resulting in a grey, dull wash of undefined noise once you lifted it in lumetri vs. if you were going off your RAW file, you would have much more of a chance of that working as you'd be working with the maximum sensor information available to you/your camera. I work in the commercials and feature world and been lucky enough to work with or observe some of the best colourists in the industry, if you even suggested grading proxies they'd burn you at the cross! I'm only saying this so nobody starting out gets confused or gets into bad habits, it is absolutely not the way to work.
The machine you have to do all your post work on should absolutely be a consideration when buying a camera as well. Like you said if your computer can't handle RAW footage (like a large percentage of people), proxies are only meant for assembly and edit where sensor information doesn't matter. But you only need one frame of a scene to grade it, most people can at least load up 1 RAW frame at 8k to get what they need. If you know you can't work with 4k footage then maybe consider upgrading computer first or just don't buy a camera that shoots 8k as like you said it'll make for a very annoying (if not impossible) grading experience!
@@broadwayphotovideo Generally speaking you don't need to playback anything to grade a scene (unless you've shot it in a way where your exposures are changing a lot within the same shot). You only need one frame. So if you can load up a RAW shot at 8k without playing back in your timeline so that it only renders one frame, then that would work. You could toggle your proxies on while you scrub through the timeline to find your shot, then once you've found it toggle the proxies off and Premiere would then render just that frame your playhead is on currently and you could grade it from there and rinse and repeat.
Do you need to deliver in 8k? You could just work with your RAWs on a 4k timeline which would be less taxing, or make high quality transcodes (as opposed to proxies) in a different codec (such as Pro Res 422 HQ or 4444) or at different resolutions which would sacrifice a lot less quality than proxies and work very well for grade (although this is still not the "full" image data, but a better option than proxies if you've got no other choice). Ideally you have a machine that can handle whatever it is you've chosen to shoot on. I wouldn't buy an Alexa to shoot ARRI RAW because I know my current computer would never work with it (well, that and I don't have £40k+ to spend on a camera haha). If you're having to work with and deliver 8k footage then ideally you'd have considered your post workflow and have the computer to handle it
nope not a useful heads up by a noob
ever heard if lumetri scopes noob?
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Wow.. you just explained proxies so clearly.. this video is the best one to learn about creating proxies. Previously i hv watched some videos on how to make proxies, but they were so difficult to undustand.
This video just made it so clear . Thank u Kyler.
Thank you Rivu! Trying to make things easier for everyone!
KYLER HOLLAND Thats the way how it should be .. straight, clear and simple ☑️
@@KYLERHOLLAND Sir I want a suggestion from you. I'm going to buy a laptop but have a low budget. So, should I buy a laptop with at great budget without graphics card & use these proxies or I should buy Laptop with graphics card as it's one time investment. BTW I am really not a hardcore editor, I just edit normal YT videos.
Agreed 100%
I always wonder how to create proxies for 4K 120FPS. Premiere pro doesn't convert 120fs. Hopefully sony a7siii in camera will create.
I know this is super late but you have to interpret your 4K 120 to 24fps in premiere and then create proxies for your slow motion clips with the same 24fps setting in media encoder before the export starts!
I normally don't comment, but you bro literally made that thing clear within 4 minutes while others struggle delivering the idea in 30min
Daamnnn.... I was editing my gaming videos but they were choppy as hell...
I started using Premiere Pro for about a week but didn't know about this... You are a lifesaver man....😍😍😍😍😍
I normally don't comment... but I've been struggling with choppy and laggy editing for a while and somehow never knew about proxies... this just changed everything, thank you for the quick and well explained tutorial!
I'm glad I was able to help out! :] Proxies have helped me with so many large projects! Good luck!
This is so good! No introduction, just to the point
Thanks my guy!
DIG your studio setup. Clean and rich looking
hey thank you!
Those Proxies already safed my life so many times. ☺️🙈
Honestly same. It's just a habit at this point. Makes editing projects sooo much easier!
I've been through 20 RUclips clips and your video was the clearest and to the point in under 4min without so much BS! Thank you!!!
Thank you! I like to keep my videos short and to the point!
Finally, a video on the subject that was clear, to the point, and accurate. THANK YOU, KYLER HOLLAND!
I love proxies, they are at the same level of a nice meal when I'm very hungry. The freedom of editing is insane.
Proxies are awesome! CineForm and ProRes proxies are accelerated on my NVidia GPU in my Windows machine... so they are buttery smooth! I used to make CineForm proxies but they can be very large... basically doubling or tripling the amount of disk space you need while editing a project. But with ProRes... the proxies can be much smaller. Regardless of which kind you use... proxies are great! 😁
I'll definitely look into that! I'll be shooting in Apple ProRes RAW with my Sony A7S iii + Atomos Ninja V. I'm expecting MASSIVE video files so any tips for organizing footage will help. :D
@@KYLERHOLLAND You'll wanna do a test of the various flavors of proxies to see what works best for you. I use "ProRes Medium Resolution" because it's a nice balance of file size and resolution. It's 1280x720 which looks fine to me. But the "Low Resolution" proxies are 1024x540 which don't look great. In the old days... the CineForm proxies didn't offer a choice in resolutions... and they were HUGE! I'm glad we have better options now! 😎
Thank you, I am editing on a MacBook Pro from late 2011 and my 1080p footage always lags in Premiere Pro, I've heard lots of talk about proxies but nobody could explain it correctly. Your video is just what I needed. Thanks, off to create some proxies now!
I was about to quit trying to edit video altogether until finding this. Thank you so much!
Thank you for this simple clear instruction of proxies!!! Much appreciated!
Anytime! Trying to make things easy for everyone!
Awesome, quick and straight to the point
Thank you so much! Been trying to find exactly this- a fast and simple explanation/tutorial. Worked perfect and going to start doing this moving forward!
This video is soooooo good. Just what I needed without the waste of time.
You've earned a new sub
Super quick, on point, no BS. Thanks man
I've been wondering about this topic for months... And u taught us so simply... ♥ ♥
Thank you! I try to just help out the community!
Thanks alot. I was thinking to get an imac on an installment plan because I was unable to edit 4K on my laptop. Thanks to you now I can.
Good stuff. Explained it clearer and quicker than the other videos i watched on this topic.
Thank you good sir. My work computer was not happy with A7S3 footage but now its working great
Legend! Thank you! Straight to the point and no bs! 🙌🏻
Dude. Thank you, this literally is perfect and get's right to the point.
Beyond Excellent. Sweet, simple and to the point. Keep it up!
Thanks Kyler, this is really helpful, i've always confused how to do Proxy, but thanks to you that i understand more👍👍
I'm glad it helps!
Love that you got straight to the point without bs. your intro logo animation drags a bit tho. Superb content anyway. got a new sub from this one
Always love your tutorial, fast and easy understand.
Awesome video! Quick and straight to the point. Just what I needed! Thanks
Thanks, quick and to the point! No 30-minute videos. Thanks.
absolute game changer! great video
this just saved a lot of hours, thank you so much!
You're welcome!
Oooooo. I didnt know proxies were a thing until I saw a tip from twitter. This is really useful if my editor app has access to proxies.
Thanks man, Love the fast pace tutorial
Glad it helped!
This was liquid gold for me. Thanks for the info! I do gotta bust yer chops about the 9 second endpage though. Ha! Keep "Fast Friday" as the title anyway. You ROCK!!!
Awesome tutorial. Thanks. Very helpful and FAST!
Best proxies tutorial , thank you man !
Thank you Saqer! Tried my best :]
Great quick fast video! Lives up to the name
I think it will be great to add these shorter videos on Friday! Thanks for the feedback!
Awesome. Concise tutorials are the best tutorials.
Glad you think so!
This is very helpful, I'm editing 8k footage for the first time. It was shot on a RED Raptor and the cinematographer was able to make proxies in camera in real time. Now I just need to figure out the best way to bridge proxies from Premiere to After Effects so as not to have to render shots and import in between.
I'm curious if dynamic link will work with proxies!?
Can’t wait to do this after importing 116 4K clips into my project ❤️ Great video
Thank god for this ! I was flipping out about my premier freeing on my mac book pro 16gb 2015 model. I was about to upgrade the SSD and was looking for eGPU ( external graphics processing ) extreme I know but yeah. Proxies for the win !
Great quick explanation. But do you need to toggle every time time you add a proxied clip?
Thanks chap, great tutorial, really helped me out. Subscribed!
OMG thank you so much for this short video. You litterally saved me from buying a new graphiccard. Have a nice one.
Thanks, man! Quick and to the point as I like
Big fan of Fast Fridays and even bigger fan of alliteration
I agree. It kinda just rolls off the tongue! :]
One of the best explanations I have seen!
Nice straight to the point!
exactly what I was looking for, subscribed
bruh i just amaze bruh. 1 simple question:
it is necessary to install Media encoder to to convert into proxies ?
1st great video...2nd I have a question..after you click the proxy button to enable editing faster...when you finish your editing, don't you click that proxy button again, to turn off your proxy to not render the proxy video?
No. Whenever exporting. It will not render the proxies in the final export. It always exports full res.
FF! More of these Fast Fridays, please! :D
thanks for the great explainer
Very helpful video explanining proxies. Thank you so much.
how to do proxies in 4 minutes...this is what the world needed.
this is really useful and great simple way.
Would proxies be worth it to edit full streams of clips that are 5-10 hours a clip? I started making one but for one video it's going to take 16+ hours
Thanks for the tips 😊
Legend Kyler
Thanks! That helped me a lot!
1:00 ... when your computer is having a mental breakdown :D
off topic, but since when did you make the semicircular motion on the recording? was the camera on dolly? or on sliders and heads where your face was tracked? thanks! :)
It's a slider from Edelkrone! It's allows me to map the motion of my camera!
so fast and so clear explanation big thumbs up 👍
Thanks! Definitely helps EFFICIENCY!
Thank you for the quick walk through 🤝🏾🤝🏾🤝🏾
Great video! I have to try proxies!
bro thank you for explaining in 4 minutes what other videos take 15+ minutes to do
This info is mind blowing........ straight to the point. thanks
Appreciate it! Trying to make videos that help! :D
Thank you!
You Save my life Thank you Brother 🕺
Thanks dude! Fast Friday is a cool name....keep it up!
Thank you! I think it will definitely be a fun series! What should I do next week?
@@KYLERHOLLAND maybe some hints and tricks on how to clean bad audio or how to sound design .
You Rock man!
Thank u king
Bro thank you. Super clear & quick. You just saved my project. Lol
No problem 👍
Okay now that was resolved. Now what about the animation I will add through dynamic linking in AE? Will I still have to do it in 4k in AE too? Because 4K comp also lags the scene down.
Whoa, that's awesome. Thanks for the info!
Anytime! Thanks for stopping by!
THANK U - love quick useful content
the best explanation and quick video about proxy files thanks mate , i still have a doubts about the fps of each clip , for example , on a project i film all in 4K but some of original files are 60fps and some 120 fps , when i generate proxies , premiere pro make them with the same fps ? so that if i slow down some footages at least i can see what im doing and how it doe look like ? cheers mate !! keep on rocking
Best explained in just 4 mts. TQ
Glad it helped
Thanks for no fuffing around and great explanation. Going to sub!
Thanks for the sub!
Hi kyler , can we color correct and grade proxie footage ? or only color correct them?
Thanks
Thank you. Would you if this would work working from an external 5400rpm HDD connected to a mac mini m2 via usb 3.1 (5gbps)?
I understand heavy workloads cause PC crashing/Freezing but if you have a powerful PC with like minimum 64Gb+ RAM 🐏 should that be good enough to not need proxy support? Hmm 🤔 Awesome tip for editing regardless 🙌
THANKS!!!
bro thank you so much
thank you, your video helps alot
Es normal que un especialista de sonido parezca que te escupa cada cuatro o cinco palabras?
Thnx you. Very helpful
Thank you. This really helped
great and to the point. cheers
Nice!!!
I have been trying FHD 60fps/IPB Standar - Clog3 in my laptop with proxi and still laggy 🥲
and trying 4K 24fps/IPB Light-Clog 3 and very very smooth in my laptop. I don't know why, can you tell me? is it about choosing IPB Light?
this was very helpful, ty!
this is the only way to edit. had a lil issue where media encoder didnt start encoding automatically....just had to wait it out and the file came up.
thanks.
It helps a lot when you're dealing with heavy footage.
Great video, this helped! Thank you
lit! smooth and easy as always ☝.
Trying to keep things simple! :]
Great video, thanks for clarifying this