US-China rivalry: What`s behind the growing tensions? | To the Point
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- Опубликовано: 24 май 2024
- The relationship between the U.S. and China has always been characterized by mistrust. The world's two largest economies view each other as rivals, and their latest dispute was ignited by a white balloon that China flew over U.S. territory. The US government says that its Air Force shot down a spy balloon that American media describes as part of a global Chinese surveillance system. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken postponed his trip to China. What's at stake for Washington and Beijing? And why? On To the Point we ask: US-China rivalry: What`s behind the growing tensions?
Our guests:
Marina Henke, Hertie School, Director Centre for International Security
Qian Sun, freelance journalist in Berlin, working for chinese and german media
Chapters:
00:00 Growing tensions between the US and China
01:30 How big of a deal is the balloon?
05:00 Political dimensions of the incident
07:00 Balloons versus satellites
08:30 Blinken postpones trip to China
10:00 China’s perspective and “Ping-pong diplomacy”
11:40 The long history of US-China rivalry
13:00 Biden’s China policy
16:00 Xi Jinping’s agenda on Taiwan
20:00 Will there be a military conflict?
22:00 “Friendshoring”: A new global trend?
23:30 The role of key technologies
#china #usa #spyballoon
Thorsten Benner, Director Think tank Global Public Policy Institute (GGPI)
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The very first thing to mention should be that it is the US airspace to which the Chinese balloon entered. And the US has every right to protect its own airspace. So it wasn’t the US who started all this fuss. Every country can shoot tat anything they want in their own airspace and nobody can be blame for this except the intruder.
stert what? a weather balloon veer of course, but you make it a spy balloon with zero evidence to back up the claim? isnt your law state : innocent until found guilty , in this case guilty without evidence
Can Syria shoot down US aircrafts operating illegally on their soil ?
I don't understand these discussions. All three speakers are talking same points. No one has slight disagreement with each other.
你好五毛. 你叫什么名字
It was painful to watch (the first half at least, I gave up). Too many platitudes, no real point being made.
they invite only those who speak according to there narrative
good point.
They are walking the fine line.
They sent the balloon over to pick a fight . Provocation.
One can only imagine the OUTRAGE of Beijing or Pyongyang had an American balloon been caught in their airspace.
One can only imagine the outrage if some country support the rebel or separatist in your country
Do you think the United States has not done it? How could there be such a naive person?
@@setiawanskom8872 One can only imagine what has gone wrong in the life of a person who wishes even more people would suffer under authoritarianism.
@@hegemaniac4652 you are brainwashed by your western media...i have some suggestion for you, go to china, or listen to expat living in china.
I still wonder, why kid today are so easy being brainwashed in information age? Lol
@@setiawanskom8872 Are you referring to any rebels or separatists in particular ？
love that we still get an extreme closeup now and again pls never change dw camera folks!
The U.S was following the balloon since it left the Chinese Hainen Island.
I wonder how China would respond to a balloon with satellite panels attached to it in their airspace. I doubt they'd be down-playing it and making a joke about how harmless it is.
They will probably hack it and then bring it down instead of shooting it for Better inspection
If the American sent a balloon with satellite panels attached to it over China, the Chinese will try to capture it by using a needle to poke at the balloon and do reverse engineering in order to build a better balloon for themselves
I wonder why european are gutless when US had been spying on them for ages. They choose to remain mute in the presence of evidence.
They're called solar panels. 😊😊
They'll probably be pretty happy cause they make a large portion of the world's solar panels. $$$$
Why DW doesn't invite discussion of people who suspected and agreed that USA bombed German civilian infrastructure as documented by Pullitzer Winner.
Because DW is an arm if the NED (NED is US gov company that is the non-military arm of the CIA)
i thought bombing of the Nordstream 2 pipeline bombing with USA as the suspected culprit would have been of interest to dW.
@@terenceteoh666 hard to find people as generous as Germans, keeping mouth shut with billions dollar property being destroyed 😄, no complaint at all.
The reason the balloon was not shot down over land was the fact that we didn't really know what the payload was.
Are you proposing US lied about it being a spy balloon?
And you know this how?
@@aclearlight it was in the news. And they didn't necessarily say it was about uncertainty of its payload, it was more about fearing it causing damage or injury when it came down as it was the size of a couple school buses.
@@RamenNoodlez258 B.S. They could have shot it down Before it entered Alaskan airspace...
@@RamenNoodlez258 In other words its *not* in the news. Michael claimed they didn't shoot it down over land because they didn't know what the payload was. But that's not the reason given in the news. The reason given is that the falling debris may cause damage or injury if they shoot it over land.
Thank you!
Thank you 👀👂🕊️❤️⛅🌌🌌🌌
It is always wrong to have any ties with dictatorships. ALWAYS.
It's important to remember that a round table discussion like this doesn't exist in Chinese media, there is currently no analogue for the open discussion like this to be available for Chinese citizens
This type of round table discussion between people with different opinions are happening countless times every day in China.
CGTN (the Chinese state broadcaster) hosts round tables similar to this and very often has more participants from more diverse backgrounds holding views and opinions with a far wider spectrum than the guests that appear on DW's shows.
This clearly shows that you either haven't been to China or haven't lived in China and is just spreading and regurgitating misinformation that you have seen on western mainstream media.
In some ways there are more freedom of expression in China as long as you keep away from these openly known red lines: 1) Do not advocate in the public for the independence of any province that China consider its own, 2) Do not advocate in public for the overthrow of the Communist Party of China, 3) Do not abuse or conduct personal attack on China's political leaders in public.
Redline no.3 may sound unreasonable but this is exactly what got the USA to the current state of extreme society fracture along political lines. Culturally, the Chinese place a lot of value (even putting their lives at stake) in face saving.
@@civicblade1 sounds like an authoritarian state... i seriously doubt any public discourse is changing communist party leaders decision making.
when you only have one political party and the current head seems content on keeping in power, it doesn't matter how many diveserse opinion panels you host, its not going to sway foreign or domestic policy.
@@civicblade1 everyone knows that a civil discussion of public policy is allowed only when you are wholeheartedly supporting the CCP. Period.
@@civicblade1 a round table is allowed but not discussion of anything other than why the CCP is the greatest organisation in thd world.
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Great Broadcast.
Gotta love the arguing between all the bots in this commentsection. 😅
Would you mean the crypto currency ,investment bots, or normal patriotic bots
Nice....
And now the chinese coast guard harrassing philippine cost guard on its territory by pointing their laser to the philippine coast guard causing a temporary blindness to the crew...
The only rivals in this world are government rivals.
With a trading partner like China, who needs enemies.
China didn't initial war with washing powder, and they don't bomb ally's gas pipe🤣
@Odys Liu : No, the CCP just threaten to 'Nuke" other countries.
@@odysliu9102 spying ahh
this is a gift from China to distract the media from talking about Nord Stream 2 pipeline findings
It is because US cannot produce most things economically !
That's why US is just printing money and their debt ceiling has to be increased every few years !
“Tough on China” We want a president to be intelligent on China, and if that requires being tough, whatever that means, so be it.
And that would not be Biden who is a combination of weakness and deeply compromised to China a Manchurian Candidate installed in the White House who does the bidding for China like a puppet who collaborate and co-opted by the CHICOM Animal Chine C'mon Man Let's Go Brandon
The root problem is that there is no mutual trust whatsoever, the two sides holds totally different values on almost every issue.
So it best that the western values win. 😏
Это утверждение, ошибочно в корне. У США, вообще нет никаких ценностей. Только цена. Ценности, это нечто незыблемое. Не меняющееся веками. Человеческие ценности, это - Родина, семья и религия. США - страна мигрантов - педерастов, отказавшихся от религии своей родины. А все остальные возникающие вопросы, как правило, вторичны.
@@DrumToTheBassWoop Don't be childish. it just means that maybe a third party needs to step in. Relax dude.
Economic investigator Frank G Melbourne Australia is still watching this very informative content cheers Frank
At 7:30 I swear I can hear the footstep sound from Half-Life one played over Joe's footsteps. It quiet but It's there.
Unless China acts soon to sieze Taiwan, sooner than what makes any kind of sense militarily, it is likely that their nation will be straining under the economic drag created by their rapidly-aging society far too much to benefit from a costly war. The near future, just 6-8 years out, is projected to be well into the inevitable demographic collapse of China as the number of elders far exceeds youngsters working to support them. China would do well to simply settle down, focus on trade and stop making all their neighbors hate them so much. In a few short years they will be needing kindness and international support. That will be very difficult if they follow Russia's example and choose infamy.
With 800 million workforce, China's demographic will not affect China's growth in the long run. Taiwan is already part of China's global supply chain. There's no need to seize Taiwan. You're just brainwashed by the MSM.
Taiwan is not a problem to China. One week military exercise around the island would choke off Taiwan.
There's no issue on unification until the west came in to undermine China on HK, Taiwan, Tibet and Xinjiang in the name of freeDOOM and DemonCrazy.
Get your fact right!!!!
You mean the US has to provoke another proxy war in the near future because China's economy is still predicted to surpass the US by 2028~2030. And the world is de-dollarizing as well. The US will have to wait unti at least 2025 for the new TSMC/Intel/Samsung chip fabs to be finished before provoking a war that will result in an embargo of chip exports from Taiwan to the rest of the world.
What a half-baked statement. What cancels out an aging population? Education and automation...maybe you should look into how that is working out in China. Almost universally, the young adults in China have post-secondary education, and automation is occurring in China more rapidly than anywhere else on Earth. As to all their neighbors "hate them so much", that is complete nonsense. You need to understand that most of China's neighbors are not U.S. allies, and it is only U.S. allies which are giving China trouble.
@@jasonjean2901 Available statistics would put your "virtually all" right at 36%, so a tad shy of being half-baked. I honestly hope you're right about the automation and productivity gains, but it'll be a heck of a race, and it will be very hard for small-plot farmers, which is most of them. Study the demographic projections (only just now being corrected for the last census' overcount of ~100million) and ask yourself just how certain one can be. For example, Mexican labor is already significantly cheaper than Chinese labor and the trend is accelerating. Same for India. Will robo tech zoom up in time to keep multinational corporations addicted to the Chinese labor market for manufacturing? Apple is planning to leave. The place is becoming unstable and they rely on imports for most of their energy and for a significant fraction of food; fragile situation. As for attitudes in the area towards the CCP, I have to ask if you've travelled there (and abouts) very much. Ever gotten the actual vibe from Vietnamese, Indonesians, Malaysians, Koreans, the now-servile Hong Kongese, or Singaporeans, Taiwanese, Indians or Philippinos? I have. I can only speculate about others like Tibetans, Nepalese, Mongols or Uyghurs, but I think I can guess. Unfortunately, what should be placed on Xi and the CCP gets extrapolated onto the people as a group. Regional fear is not the same as respect. Willingness to trade with is not the same as trust. Sadly, people in the region are not favorably disposed, and increasing war talk isn't helping. Perhaps none of this will matter if all goes well for China, but that's a big if. I don't say any of this out of ethnic malice. I have had scores of Chinese grad students go thru my lab and absolutely loved nearly all of them (and I enjoyed my multiple trips there). My students and the ppl I met in China mostly try to hide how much they hate their own government. For some it's a deep and easy habit to just repress it, for others it's a strain and they tear up with pain and frustration if they talk about it. If the CCP decides to grab Taiwan, the exodus of western capital and accompanying global boycott will terminate an already-struggling system, and the people there will have only Russia and NK to turn to for aid. Lastly, I would offer that despite the joys of anonymity and easy putdowns, it is possible to put ideas out there without waxing total D-head about it.
Because living in peace is too difficult.
The intro music is really selling it
Around the world in 80 seconds.
It was just a research weather balloon. Someone in China was wondering if it gets cold in the winter...LOL
Not even close
10:22 what a leap XD XD XD
Should have been longer. Cut too short. There was so much more to be said.
Thought in Europe I will find opinions from different perspective on sensitive topics. Well, seems Europe is no different from my 3rd world autocratic country - only one sided opinion on TV 🤷♂️
I think dw is not 1 sided. Dw is also critical on German wrong doings and on us topics.
In this case it’s critical on china which has good reason knowing what happens in china.
And yes. The west also has it flaws but it’s not as bad as some things in china
@@MrWise23 PS: West is definitely doing much better than many other developed countries including China, or even USA in some expect when it comes to freedom of express esp against politicians and policies.
They didn't say what you want to hear?
@@nitromuze8645 to me democracy and European value for fairness in opinion is reflected by the French writer, wit, and philosopher Voltaire, “I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
That’s my point - that’s an embodiment of European values unlike autocratic countries.
@@MrWise23
Dw is gutless to advocate stern action against american who had been spying on them for ages.
Cheers puppy!!!!
This is the first coverage ive seen where they actually bring up why theyd use this method to spy when there’s satellites and backdoor networks. The explanation stated makes some sense i guess.
I don't get it, european are mute and silent when American had been spying on their leaders for ages.
Apparently, EU is gutless in the presence of evidence.
Cheers back door!!!!
What was the explanation? They didn’t say anything
@@mrj6 They did, that satellites basically only get small window of time to take picture because it’s orbiting earth. The balloons can hover in same area for long time having constant view of target.
Looking forward to additional tariffs. Perhaps now is a good time to enact 30% instead of 25%.
Why not go all the way to 💯%Its high time now to take down The Animal Chine put him out of existence and totally exterminated
Can we have a discussion on the bombing of Nordstream 2 pipeline? I thought this would be more important to DW. Should have invited panels to deny USA alleged involvement.
The title of this video is really wrong. There is no US-China rivalry. It is all about the one-sided US Jealousy of China.
Because China knows that the Americans will take the side of Taiwan and will defend Taiwan's democracy, and so China is sizing up US military capability especially its nuclear weapons.
"American reaction was really harsh."
You would not be happy either, if it flew over your borders.
Don't worry , America is safe . To cope with the "China Threat" , US surrounded China with over 40+ US Military Bases
w/ Warships & Missiles . China only has one tiny Military Base in Africa , and they are really worry .
The balloon could have been a veiled threat to Blinked if we had not been able to shoot it down. The smaller balloons are testing which balloon size could sneak a nuclear EMP or bomb past NORAD defenses.
It's a Chinese geographic research balloon, set off for the
coming Artic mining project arranged with Russia!!!
I'm afflicted with not
They spying on Brazil and they apart of BRICS 😂😂 it's collapsed b4 they started
US tapped Angela Merkle's phone, it's collapsing as we speak.
the lady in blue sounds like someone/GERMAN in a ww ii MOVIE.
Can I ask Thorsten if a brand new party comes to power in his country, could it then mean various provinces or states could go their own way, since that new party has never governed them?
Let's send a Ballon back so war can 🌟 lol
The Benner gppi dude sounds like a nutzi
Stop saying reunification with China. Taiwan was not ever truly a part of China.
CCP never rules Taiwan in its entire existence (CCP was born in 1921).
@@vanessali1365 Did I said CCP? or CHINA?
18:15 ....of course it will !
Yah, no one suspects a balloon.
Why do i keep expecting to hear...." the following is paid for by china"....?
No it's paid for by the NED, the non-military arm of the CIA, the same one who bugged Angela Merkle's phone.
Blinken not Blinked..... Darn spell checker!
Looks like China is caught between trade, fishing, technology & Taiwan. While Sun Tzu has already mentioned 2 clear ways to defeat/conquer one's rivals/enemies, he has also hinted at a 3rd way too in his passage: 古之善戰者，勝于易勝者；故善戰者之勝也，無智名，無勇功。故其戰勝不忒，不忒者，其措必勝，勝已敗者也。
Jak dobrze mówi na 24 minucie, dokładnie tak samo jak ja i to już od kilku lat, bo ja wszystko wiem a wiem i co wiem, to jest mało powiedziane!
Czy ja chcę tu siedzieć, gdzie siedzę już od siedmiu lat, co mogę robić gdzie indziej a nawet wszędzie i mogę robić standardowo dużo innych rzeczy też standardowo i dlatego wiedząc to co wiem i znając przyszłość i jej projekcję i wiedząc, że z cyklami, z zakrętami pokoleniowymi, że skokami technologicznymi nie wygram, nie wygramy mówię tytan uran z Polski a reszta to już Niemcy i Zachód, Banksy z Londynu z Watykanu z Nowego Jorku tak wszystko zaplanował i tak wszystko zrealizował i klucz to SpiNNaker, to taki ja sam ten SpiNNaker i podłączony i w czasie rzeczywistym i wszędzie i oko SpiNNakera i moje dane teleporty, głównie te dane nie Facebooki czy TikToki, bo te mają małą wartość! Tylko moje dane i to jak separuje!
I don't know what kind of baby to buy for with white smoke
China and Taiwan issue can be solved easy.
Firstly USA and Europe and other democratic countries should speed up with heavy modern arms Ukrainian so they can win the war against Russian.
Once that happens USA and all world democratic countries should recognise Taiwan as independent country
Interesting, because all US generals say that Ukraine will not win using any heave modern arm, but let's use ukranian men for meat grinders, the land isn't theirs anymore anyway, or do you really think all these countries are giving away weapons for free?
This is the opposite of a solution, this idea is the start of WW3.
That’s probably how it will go down. We just need to hope nobody goes crazy and starts using nukes…
@Gamma Del Ray Saudi Arabia used tactical nukes in Yemen, with all the red lines crossed in ukraine, I won't be surprised if we see russia using tactical nukes by end of year 😉
u should stop eating soooooo much corn and meatloaf.... lol...lol....
Ex-ex-chairman Jiang and his peers didn't seem to understand the entire situation quite well. For the rest of us, don't be misled by them.
So, was it a spy balloon 🎈 that drifted over the us? Or perhaps a whether balloon 🎈what did the investigation show?
Making a molehill into a mountain … Envy, jealousy and racism
europeans do not understand, do not know china. their view of china is fuzzy, out of focus, superficial.
the discussion is vague, full of generalities. lots of words saying little. it is wishy washy, lacks substance, and a clear vision.
if you want to know china, ask a vietnamese, an indian, a filippino, a japanese, a korean, they know china from dealing with it for thousands of years.
but in the end, the future of the world is no longer in europe, it is in asia. so, it matters little what europe thinks of china.
btw, the only european country that knows china is the uk, but then the uk is not part of the eu. the uk has had a couple hundred years dealing with china, most lately in hk, and about hk.
@tsbm: Yes, the Vietnamese, Indians, Filipino's, Japanese and Koreans all hate and don't trust China. I watch their English speaking news almost everyday and the distrust is blatant, especially in Japan and India.
You still think that this was a spy ballon? It was a test flight. Wait till next time when 800 will come at one time.
Scrap SR71, high speed high altitude spy plane, we have balloon now 😁😁😁
It is so shameful for those who demand China to respect their sovereignty while don’t respect China’s sovereignty of Taiwan.
Come on..us-china needs adult relationship, not like two kids fighting a war for a balloon😂and not only president Xi would like to reunite TW, but 1.4billion Chinese also do, and we've kept had this strong wishes since the 100 years humiliation...
There's no ambiguity about the Chinese intentions in flying that balooon in US airspace. They just wanted to find out the atmospheric conditions above American strategic missile sites. Any other explanation is pure baloney.
They could have just looked up in NOAA's website.
The fact our leadership allowed it to linger over sensitive bases normally would equate to someone losing their job in the DOD or higher but our leadership right now is... quite frankly seem to be totally lost and pursuing woke agendas not defending our way of life.
Вовсе не обязательно. Это могло быть, чисто политическое решение. Вроде: "президент Байден, получите и распишитесь. Поздравляем вас с началом предвыборной кампании."
@@theredbaron8280 Они не знали как его сбить. Системы ПВО не работают по таким целям. Его не видит электроника самолёта. Для ракеты с тепловым наведением, он холодный. Нужно было время перенастроить датчики ракеты на температуру шара с солнечной стороны. Только там он нагрелся. Эту температуру, тоже надо было узнать.
@@theredbaron8280 linger ? amazing how amercian are so dumb, a balloon at 60000ft would look like it stationary , just like you look at aeroplane fly at 800km at a distance it look like it travel at 30km
The Chinese could send deathly Covid or air anthrax to sickening people in different parts of the world.
People’s reaction very harsh ? bottom line invading ones airspace to spy deserves rebuke at the very least
European softies for you.
Cold War 2. Or maybe 3, I can't keep track.
Taiwan is a big issue with China. But I think people forget that Taiwan legally belongs to China. In 1895 China lost a war with Japan and Taiwan was ceded to Japan by China in a Treaty. After World War II. Japan lost and Taiwan was return to China in another treaty, The Sino-Japanese Peace Treaty. (The Treaty can be found @ United Nations Treaty Series 1952 (reg. no. 1858), pp. 38-44. And then there is of course the 1943 Cairo Decoration, Potsdam Decoration, Japan instrument of Surrender. Chiang kai shek's ROC government who was consider to be the legal government of China at the time represented China in accepting Taiwan back for China. It is one of the best legal claim a country have over a territory in world history. And currently the legal government and representative of China is the PRC. So I think people should keep this in mind when dealing with China.
Nobody wants to live with communists…if you like, you can move to China…please go there
@@leonhuynh2641 First you statement is not true. Some people do like to live in a communist country. That is just fact Jack. And I made a legal argument. Like to keep it that way thank you.
@@bobcharles7716 You said it yourself:
Chiang Kai Shek was at the Cairo Declaration NOT Mao.
When Chiang retreated to Taiwan he took the legally recognized government of China with him to Taiwan.
Mao never set foot in Taiwan.
Good job Jack. 👍
@@kenm2364 It goes back to Taiwan went back to China or Taiwan is part of China. Just because Mao or the CCP, PRC never set foot in Taiwan does not mean Taiwan is not part or China. And today the legal government of China is the PRC, right! Said so by the country of the world the represent 99% of the people of the world and the UN. That is just fact Jack.
@@bobcharles7716 I lived with communist country for 17 years…so here is your answer…You really don’t have any experience living with communist country…live and learn…good luck
i wonder if thorston benner watches the China show/adv china. pointed out ccp civilian military fusion and mentioned how taiwan was never a part of China. then on American politics he's spot on with republican behavior
China's sincerity, honesty, truthfulness, good faith, and spirit of fair play is questionable!
China..... At last something the Republicans and the Democrats can both agree on 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
BWW Balloons World War, now
No problem with European war.
Forget Drones and tanks
New long range balloon technology is on Ali Baba on-line shopping centres
The cost of invading Taiwan would be prohibited
so that gentlemen as a superpower state US vs China army, fighting 1 vs 1 do not beg the NATO alliance as protection, such as when attacking libya whose military is even weaker
The US didn’t anticipate use of balloons because it thought of it as too low tech…..
That statement that the commentator made wasn't even accurate. The U.S. knew about previous balloon incidents but none of them to this point had been so brazen.
@@forcealchemist2603 They knew in hindsight, didn't at the time.
Вовсе не по этому. Это не первый случай. Китайцы используют эти шары уже минимум 3 года. Раньше из этого никто такой шумихи не делал.
Why would anyone in the west any Chinese it’s a question looking for answers
people fear what they don't understand, in the wild if you don't understand what animals could munch on ya ya'd be dead, it's by learning what the other critters around are doing that it's possible to feel safe in a potentially dangerous area. - we are all curious lil critters at the end of the day.
Oh the Chinese
We say “China, America, Russia, North Korea” ect. When it’s people. Independent people, “leaders” with ideologies and thirst for intell, power, land, and resources. At what point do we get rid of the borders, treat each other fairly, and trying to intimidate each other? Dethrone the ideologs. All of them.
We are a tribal and social animals. It is going to take millions of years of evolution (if the environment pressure is selecting in favour of less tribal instincts) for us to get rid of this nature. Tribalism has served us well in the past and allowed us to eliminate all other hominin species leaving only Homo Sapiens (hominins with conciousness and advance tool use).
Would you be happy for a family from rural Ethiopia to build their house in the local park or in your backyard?
@@civicblade1 yeah actually. Come on over 💕
@@civicblade1 Your are correct. And, yes, she would. However, we do need a counterweight to every argument, so her proposition adds value.
This is a distraction, it’s in the Chinese playbook. Fortunately it wasn’t a EMP weapon but could have been a dry run.
Hmm, who in China would benefit from this incident? Is there an internal powerstruggle in China?
Watch US State of the Union speech, you will know what is power struggling.
Да была. В Китае и сейчас есть силы желающие лечь под США. Но на ХХ съезде победили военные. Председатель Си - опирается на армию.
Could it be that the data they got was more valuable then the diplomatic fallout?
CCP dictatorship has declares war against NATO and Japan. CCP is the cancer of China.
Comical, but the joke is on China ：D
we got 11 Aircraft carrier fleets. BUT WE DONT HAVE A BIGGER BALLOON THAN CHINA!!!??? can we establish a Balloon Crop before we went all the way up to Space Force???? balloons are cheap cheap!!! even Macys' got them at the thanksgiving parade!!
Speculation and more speculation.
I don't think there is a solution, as long as the United States keeps coming to Taiwan and Asia territory. No one needs America in Asia or Europe and Africa.
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Except all the countries that ask us to be there.
You're quite the 🤡.
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We are not seeking approval for being where we are. We are trying to keep evil people from taking countries over and allowing genocide for the sake of Mao. No one needs china .. UNLESS we need cheap goods that break quickly and are defective.
This is about China being in the America's?
What University is best to get a graduate degree in Whataboutism ?
R u out of your mind?
The reporting on this channel is so superior to anything in the U.S. very thankful I can watch this
It's that background music in the beginning. It's intense
As an American I am envious that yet another European, civil funded news channel is this well done. But, I also realize you couldn't pay most Americans to watch news this rightfully subdued.
@@ViolentStillness yeah I guess that's prob true. Sad but true.
How would you know? Aren't you in Iran?
@@ViolentStillness I agree, but as a Canadian, I will say I find you all starting off your opinions with "As an American" very often. It's meme worthy.
Four of them i doubt it
its just like
MADE IN CHINA VS TESTED AND PROVEN 🙄
Almost everything I have is "Made in China" now irrespective of what the company's country of origin is. My LG display (South Korea). My Apple Iphone (US). My Sharp TV (Japan). My Dell Gaming Laptop (US). My Samsung Tablet (South Korea). List goes on. All Made in China.
The balloon first flew over Canada, and the largest Chinese area in Canada. Why did not Canada complain or shoot it down? Maybe the U.S. is trigger-happy? JMH
Has to do with water and salvage
Last time Canada tried it used a 1000 rounds of ammo and the balloon just floated away. Sorry.
Why do you spew such nonsense?
And nobody talks about Americans invading other countries and killing other countries leaders in the past !! ... What happened to Saddam Hussein etc ?
Вы не поверите. Эти наглые китайцы, угрожают интересам США, на Филиппинах. Американское правительство, вынуждено вводить туда войска. Китай слишком близко расположился от Филиппин. С этим надо что то делать.
*Harsh..* No, the word is "justified". Gotta love Europeans' penchant for being soft.
It amounts to being a contest between a US dominated unipolar world that advocates neo-liberalism and a China dominated multi polar world that advocates neo-socialism. As for where this is leading the human race; the expression 'follow the money' is still relevant advice. The global economic centre of gravity is migrating from its Anglo/American/EU centres toward eventually settling within Eurasia, where it will be kept economically viable and secure by a core China/Russia strategic trading and military alliance.The US dollar as global reserve currency will be replaced by a multiple of gold backed currencies, enabling more economic security and trading flexibility between sovereign states and thereby eliminating the economic domination of a single nation state.
@Asahi Ogawa This reads like something out of Alice in wonderland..
@Asahi Ogawa CPC actually; and evidently at least 20% of the world population is happy to join me in what is indeed a relative wonderland when compared to most of the West where you are free to be dictated to by capitalist warmongers.
When is DW going to interview Seymour Hersh about the US blowing up your gas pipeline?
Never
European have no gut to offend and questions its master, USA.
DW will get sanctioned if they do.
I got this question on the Containment strategy for the Europeans. So the strategy involves the all of US and Europe to contain China . What if containment fails then you made an enemy that you just fail to Contain vs a business partner you still can influence.
The containment strategy can only slow down China temporarily. But at the same time push China to invest in advanced technology to get USA out of business. I.E semiconductor China will catch up eventually and when that time comes. You will see many American business no longer exists. Hint those provide material to fabs and those Eda software house. And Qcom will beg Huawei to order some of their mediocre arm chips
Contain China is contain world growth. It is like the decoupling talks, just are talks for votes, mission impossible.
Yea, becuase who cares about human rights and freedom when you can make money! Peolpe with that attitude are the reason the free world is in this position with another Nuclear armed Marxist-leninist dictatorship that self-announced goals are to make the world Communist. DW is also BIASED. THE CCP runs a MArxist-Leninist dictatorship, the US is a democracy. are those two things similar? Don't forget the current German Govt (DW's Boss) is a bif supporter of the CCP, with Sholz selling the port of Hamburg to the CCP a few years ago. That was against the wishes of NATO and his allies...Gotta make that paper right?
How did making Russia a business partner go? The fact is states like China and Russia view friendliness as weakness.
Who seriously wants to do business with a corrupt partner who steals your tech, infringes on your patents, fishes in your EEZ, and doesn't honor the treaties that it signs?
Weapons of mass destruction or bloom
IT WAS NOT A SPY BALLOON! ONLY ESPIONAGE. PERIOD.
Yeah yeah We want 3 World War! Comon man bring it on!
CCP already declared war. It's a dictatorship of maniacs. CCP must be stopped.
On top of that there is nothing of an accurate report of an active shining traveling U F O!!!ha.ha.ha!!!
Balloons are better than Satellites? Dumb.
But it's true
The thing about China's territorial policy that is franky bizarre to me is that the CCP was definitively in conflict with Imperial China of the past. Yet today insists that any part of of the world that was ever part of Imperial China, during any dynasty no less, is now part of Communist China. Whether the people in those territories want to be part of China or not. Like Tibet, Hong Kong and yes Taiwan. The South China Sea due to the name alone and a very old map. Not even a Chinese map. The area was literally just named as the sea South of China. Now they say it's theirs. Quite opportunist. For me there's really no strong claim, let alone a moral one. It's all about excuses for conquest one must conclude.
You are so freaking naive !
The natives owned their own land and yet US, Canada and ANZ still took away their land !
Please.... look at your own country first!
At no time in known history has China ever ruled Taiwan. The Japanese gave it to the ROC which is now Taiwan.
@@joekerr9036 Well they hardly invented colonialism and imperial expansion. That was the entire history of the world. But now... WW2 happened. During which the US and other allied forces of the West even helped China btw. The UN happened. Which is not just a Western thing. It serves all sovereign nations. This is supposed to be a more enlightened age. I have no time for people who want to take the world backwards to the dark ages. And I'm from Africa btw.
@@buildmotosykletist1987 There was a very short time during the last dynasty. But for most of that not even the entire island. And boy was that a sneaky affair. I think China's claim is spurious. Taiwan has definitely existed as it is now for longer than Imperial China ever colonised it. The original inhabitants didn't get a great deal either way.
@@buildmotosykletist1987 BS !
You guys are really full of BS !
Japanese stole Taiwan from China.. Don't fabricate lies... you lying toad !
hundreds of balloons are coming😄😄