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- Your wish has been granted! We're talking about genasi, the offspring of elemental genies. They're full of flavor, but one of the least used 5e dungeons and dragons player races around. Here's what we love about em and how we tweak em to make em better. Plus, ALL THE PUNS
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Heyo, I'm trying to set up a campaign setting wherein a few hundred thousand years hace passed since your average D&D setting. This has two main effects:
Firstly, different levels of technological and magical advancement is scattered across the humanoid cultures of the material plane, with steel golems powering armored bank transports, which have to deal with massive roaming beasts and rifle-wielding highwaymen, and maybe the vampire lord puts Kevlar on his ghouls.
Secondly, however, many typically monstrous races have developed cultures and civilizations. The stone giants started carving enchanted strongholds to rebuild Ostoria, and other types of artistry than carving are starting to be recognized by their Ordning, hill giants started cooking and preserving things. As time ground on, even the most solitary of monsters have had to learn to work together or die; even chromatic dragons have been forced to make communal lairs to better protect from mortal thieves,
Owlbears started making goblinoid-like tribes to counter over-hunting and dire bears now hunt in packs.
As technology and magic have seen more use, the name of the game quickly became "Advance or be left behind" and nomadic orcish tribes formed mad-max-esque road trains, Bugbears put their long, powerful and skilled arms to use with deadly compound greatbows, and Kobolds make ever more ambitious war machines.
I bring this up because I want you to make a video or videos on advanced monstrous cultures and societies: What instrument would a blue dragon invent? How would an orcish warband adapt to life on a magical airship? Would bugbears sing guttural, wailing tribal songs around a campfire? I think it would be an AMAZING talking point.
NO THANKS! no genasi ... sorry nope, no genasi ... genasi stupid and annoying, not allowed because they don't exist in my world.
Captain Planet!! ;-)
Sun, wind and water
Composed by Ted Gärdestad
The album was released Oktober 1972
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Maybe the 5 elements simply make up the fabric of a metaphysical being's dream in some sort of monistic d&d setting.
Anyway it's a good song.
My fave character, that I've yet to get to play, is a fire genasi whose father was a genie that twisted a wish from a dude to "grant great power to his bloodline." The genie granted the wish by seducing the guy's sister.
That is awesome and hilarious.
Totally stealing that
So it's been two years. Have you had a chance to play this particular character yet?
To your point about Genasi being a niche race:
Honestly, those are my favorite videos vis-a-vis character creation. They give me ideas of how I can incorporate a race that is usually overlooked into my homebrew world in a way that doesn't feel like an afterthought or a reskinning of Elves (or they give me inspiration for chracters I had not thought to play before).
Here is how I would homebrew the Genasi:
Air: Mingle with the Wind allows them to cast Gust at will. Starting at 3rd level they can cast Feather Fall once per Day. Starting at 5th level they can cast the Fly spell on themselves once per day. Increase their move speed by 10 feet.
Earth: Merge with Stone allows them to cast Mold Earth at will. Starting at 3rd level they can cast Earth Tremor once per day. Starting at 5th level they can cast Meld into Stone once a day. Then give them a 20 foot burrow speed or a 10 foot tremor sense.
Fire: Reach into the Blaze would gain the added benefit of letting them cast Fireball once a day after they reach level 5.
Water: Call to the Wave would gain the added benefit of letting them cast Tidal Wave once per day after they reach level 5.
I thing about creation my own Genasi version being combination of your's and this concepts: www.dmsguild.com/product/230470/Volos-Complete-Subrace-Handbook-Over-50-Subraces
Thomas Eddy I prefer these Race based abilities to be 1x per long rest. Or constitution modifier times per day. They aren’t game breaking abilities, and I think letting Genasi use them often gives their elemental charm alot more steam.
@@scottmerric2180 Yes, i think about fire genasi ability in this kind of way: "When nerby ally take fire damage you can use your reaction and reduce taking damage 2xYour lvl (or giving them resistance to fire). You can use this feature number of times equal your constitution modifier (minimum 1) per long rest".
I'm not sure what is more balance giving resistance or reducing damage by 2x your lvl.
Zormar Rivaks I think dmg 2x your level is a bit more direct, and cool because that character would have a unique ability to stare down a dragon, or rush into a fire trap of some kind.
Water Genasi do in fact have a swim speed (30ft) in the Elemental Evil player's companion. Not sure what other source books they've been in since I've been using wikidot a lot, but the stats track with EE.
They have a 30' Swim speed on DnD Beyond.
And now I want to have a world where if all the Genasi come together with a ritual to summon an avatar version of Captain Planet
Captain Planeshift?
It would be a Plannari
That's just the entire four elements monk subclass
1:20 Tieflings have the most since Mordenkainen's adds 9 subraces, 1 for every archduke of hell. (Including the PHB version as Asmodeus subrace)
Also the variants in SCAG.
Zariel Tiefling for the WIN!
Yugoloth-descended Tieflings rise up, we need representation.
Doom Marine: "Heavy Breathing Intensifies"
@@lorgarbeareroftheword5836 We shall rise up in force soon, our enemies shall not be able to resist the might of our smites as Eldritch Knights!
Isn’t the “G” in Genasi pronounced like it is in the word “gin” or “genie”... or is it just me?
No I thought it was too, makes sense since its a corruption of the word Genie
That's how I pronounce it
Either way is fine. I use the hard 'g' because there's a mention (somewhere) that Primordial has a lot of hard consonants so it seems fitting.
Either way is not fine. Silly internet.
It’s pronounced the same as the “g” in “gif”
31:03 "Maybe you enjoy figuring out what the base elements of your world are, and they're not Earth, Fire, Air, and Water."
Ah yes, everyone knows the true four elements are Fire, Ice, Candy, and Slime.
My first character was a flirty air Genasi bard, and is someone I adore to this day :)
Well, what do you want to know?
My air genasi bard(Maleratio) was an ex-circus performer who's circus burned down when they were 17. They had to forge their own path in life alone until they met an inquisitive rogue who was running away from bad family circumstances, and helped them out (even though he was a bit of a dick to start off with). Mal's whole arc was finding how to be true to themselves, and what being a bard means to them. They have a pretty in-depth backstory, which made me feel really attached to them, as well as the DM had fun reading and implementing parts of it in the campaign. I also made the character a bit personal to me, and included to of my personality and ideals.
Ironically, my current profile pic is Maleratio.
I recently just made my own flirty air Genasi bard! Their name is Kashumi and they write and perform for their local tavern!
Ooooooooh!!!! Nice!
@@ansley436 I also made an Air Genasi bard named Zephyr who plays a flute using airbending
@@andressotil4671 all our air Genasi would become friends and be a band lol
"No heart"
Well thank you, I'm out. No Captain Planet, no me.
But who will tell us to implement China's one child possibility?
Made an earth genasi fighter, full plate, claws of the umberhulk, used pass without a trace to dig in silence; badassery ensued.
Water races should be able to see in the dark. Triton and Genasi can both be found on the dark ocean floor, but sea elves are the only deep water race to get dark vision?
I think Tritons was explained somewhere that they come from the plane of water and it's actually brightly lit in that water where they live. Genasi could be that they are pretty much land dwellers that are good in the water.
I would expect dark vision to be the norm for aquatic races. Carrying around a light source underwater can be a detrimental factor in certain areas. It'd be like turning on high beams on a car, only to see less due to fog, or heavy snow.
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One of my favorite characters I’ve played so far was a fire Genasi Barbarian: Ancestral Guardians. The flavor for the ancestral spirits was that they were elemental spirits of fire that moved around the battlefield harrying enemies.
Idk what it is about Genasi, but I thoroughly enjoy hearing build ideas centered around them. A lot of min/max stuff will go for offensive stats for spells and attack, but there's a lot of RP potential in all the Genasi.
A half elf or half orc may be able to deny half of their genetics, but Genasi are in constant state of being aware of their multi planar heritage.... now I'm imagining a water Genasi pretending to drown to try and fit in.
Kyle Thomas I totally agree that where the Genasi may fall flat for your min/maxers they are a very rich conceptual space.
Currently playing a grave cleric water Genasi, because what better grave is there than the sea? I will also note, they do actually have a swim speed. The one thing I would change about them is to give them darkvision. I tend to think anything that spends a good amount of time under water, especially deep water should have it.
Agreed, RE: 5e Genasi needing some buffs and reworks.
With Air Genasi, I wouldn't even be so restrictive. Just give them a fly speed, no caveats. The Aaracocra already exist, and they get a 50 ft fly speed. Letting Air Genasi have a 30 ft fly speed would be downright conservative. I don't consider races having a native fly speed to be that bad, so long as the DM understands what they're getting into. Either it's an all-flying campaign, or only one or two members of the party will be flying characters (in which case they are subject to all the disadvantages inherent to being caught on their own out in the open).
[EDIT: I was going to say "Water Genasi not having swim speed is stupid", except, as another commentor pointed out, they DO have one. Elemental Evil Players Guide clearly states they have one.]
Earth Genasi might benefit from perhaps getting an Unarmored Defense feature. Like, their earthen hide protects them, giving them an AC of 13 + either Dex or Con modifier, so long as they aren't wearing armor. Really lean into them being the tanks of the race.
Closing thought: each of the Genasi should have one of the four non-damaging Cantrips introduced in Elemental Evil. You know the ones: Gust, Mold Earth, etc. The ones that might have some benefit in combat (like creating difficult terrain), but are more about utility and flavor. That supplement introduced these elemental Cantrips, but didn't give them to the race that could most use them.
yeah that makes sense to me
This may be super complicated but one reason I love the elements and also Avatar The Last Airbender was that all elements have a side of them that is "good" and another that is "bad"
I mean that water isn't just cooling and healing drinks and fire isn't just a blazing Forest for. Water is also huge tidal waves and Whirlpools that sink ships and flood cities and fire keeps people warm and cooks food. Genasi should reflect this not just in flavor but in abilities as well
Air gensi could be able to cast fly on themselves but maybe they can cast lightning bolt. Maybe water can create a Whirlpools or tidal wave.
Their alignment and morality can reflect this. Evil water gensi are cold and uncaring about those they hurt. Good fire gensi can be passionate and ambitious.
That is just my food for thought based of my favorite TV show of all time #NotAllFirebenders
I love the Genasi. So much potential but unfortunately they are forgotten by most :/ I'm glad you guys made a vid to talk about them :)
Me too, they really need more love
I think they just need to be more powerful. Each genasi can only channel one element, so your abilities in wind, earth, fire etc. should be considerably more effective or get way more uses. Then, choosing the right class for each one is wayyy more interesting :
A rogue pirate water genasi
A high altitude ranger air genasi
Swamp or rock fighter genasi
Fire weapon forging genasi.
Their elemental powers are so weak they dont really contribute to the appeal of one as much as a dragon born or a sea elf whathaveyou.
@@scottmerric2180 I agree, they just need more; air genasi could use like a glide
Fires really the only decent one, and even then I'd see some tweaking ve needed
For wind maybe like a wind version of chromatic orb
For a while I’ve been wanting to play an air genasi bard, who plays woodwind instruments.
Really put that endless breath to work, play impossible music, be the best flutist.
I think this is the thing. They're an excellent roleplay race based on what they do, if not as good mechanically.
8:30 Air Genasi - give them a hover speed. They can choose to be 1' off the ground at all times, treating it functionally as if they were on a solid surface. They can glide over empty space deeper than 1' for up to half their movement speed , or equal to their movement speed if they dash, without losing elevation, and if they fall they can choose to impose a feather fall effect at any time while falling.
I think the levitation should be "at will" for themselves but i like your idea.
Actually, move _Pass without Trace_ to here and think of it as them having the party walk on the air an inch above ground
The way i RP my earth Genasi Barbarians Pass without trace is that he touches the ground or a wall near him and it turn his skin and the skin of his surrounding party members to match the texture and color of the area around them
As a soldier I've always wanted to build an "airborne ranger" build based off an air genasi.
6:00 Kobold: "Did they give them negative stats? no? Then quit complainin!"
Commiserates in Orc.
Lol, my friend loaned me a 3rd party monster manual supplement that has a mobile monster type called a "Swobold". It's jacked AF.
@@Fure2 the Creature Codex from Kobold Press.
@@DrossPedantic yup
A really interesting thing to explore with genasi is that relation with their elemental parents. Unfortunately the book decides to stop that before it can go anywhere by saying most genies don't care about their offspring. So toss that part out of the book. And suddenly you have a very interesting dynamic. Play an earth genasi at odds with his doa mother. Or a fire genasi whose disappointed and been disowned by his father and now has to cope with life without all his slaves and has to adjust.
What? I always play Genasi. They are so awesome and have fantastic versatility. I had no idea they were rare. Great video.
I love the idea about the Fire Genasi Dungeon, and I may use it. Not even having a fire genasi player, but just having an interesting dungeon where everything is painted red for no obvious reason. All of the traps can also be themed in this way (Falls, ice magic, etc.) Once the players investigate the inner sanctum they might discover a prophecy that the mad mage* who built the dungeon (*or whatever the big bad is) was to meet their end due to the machinations of a fire genasi. In fact, that could be their undoing and when the players defeat them they might freeze in one of their own traps (or something.)
The simplest fix for air genasi I can think of is to give them a fly speed equal to 10 feet per point of their proficiency bonus. 20 feet until tier 2ish. 30 going into tier 3. 40+ once you to the levels that see less regular play. Yeah 60 feet of flying at the end of their level progression, but by that point half the party has magic flight and teleportation every third round or so.
CitanulsPumpkin that’s really clever, I quite like that idea!
Definitely stealing that idea.
Web Dm: most races don't have multiple subraces
Tiefling *laughs in 9 subraces*
Ten, if you count the Feral Tiefling option.
Bluecho4 interesting enough a video I recently watched a video and there was a segment about how tiefling are (technically) one of the most diverse races in the entire game seeing as logistically it's a human plus other which doesn't include any of the other normal races so like someone that's half human half rakshaska or even changelings or any other combination of human and otherworldly or fiendish beings could be considered a tefling
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Edit: spelling
@@TheAnonyomusGuy oooh a rakshasa tiefling! That would be something really interesting, *especially* visually, you just gave me a character idea. A tomelock with mask of the many faces. Tiefling do have a lot of crazy options. Though most people only seem to make a typical horned human in red or blue.
i comented before wanting to see a video related to the idea of a wrlock who doesn't take eldritch blast.
firstly, i'd love to see a video, even a quick one, where you go through the classes and how you would play a character without using what it's known for. a barbarian that doesdn't like to rage, a wizard that never casts fireball etc.
secondly, i'd love to see a constitution episode where you attempt to fix con being a boring stat. find cool ways to interact with a players constitution, and then finish with what your build would be with standard array stats and the 15 in con.
I love my Water Genasi Coastal Druid :P Soooo glad they are talking about Genasi
I loved my Water Genasi Costal Druid too! We also had a Water Genasi Tempest Cleric in our party, it was a lot of fun :)
I created a Water Genasi Swashbuckler Rogue. She loved the sea and adventuring but didn't want the constraints of being in a guild.
One of my favorite characters I've played is a slightly altered water genasi into an ice genasi who was a monk of the four elements. He's like a cross between a water bender and Sub-Zero. We totally rule of cool'd it too, where he could create darts and other weapons out of ice at will and once even pulled the water from a river around him to form ice armor that he could move freely in.
Pruitt: "Water, earth, fire air..."
My Inner Voice: "Salt, Ooze, Radiance, Lightning, Minerals, Void..."
Done played too much AD&D Second.
You've played just enough!!
@@WebDM Just enough is never enough, am I right?
:: stares at a 40+ page 2E world bible still in progress ::
2nd Ed Planescape had the best map of the Planes, still use it. Elemental chaos in the shape of a sphere, Positive at the North Pole, Negative at the bottom, Earth, Air, Fire, and Water spaced around the Equator, and all the combinations possible. The Outlands is also cool, the Great Wheel, but the Elemental Planes was definitely worth the price of the boxed set back in the 90's.
@@paulcoy9060 It IS a good map, and I even have a copy on my cubicle wall at work.
One quibble though: it was not the Elemental Chaos at the time. The concept of the Elemental Chaos was introduced innnn... Fourth Edition? Before that, the planes were discrete separate planes that shared border realms, as opposed to the 'make it simple' soup that Fourth Edition tried to boil everything down into.
@@AuntieHauntieGames Ah, I was using the term only in the general sense, as a way of describing the planes, to show they were different from the Prime Material Plane. Off the top of my head, I don't remember if 2nd Ed had a specific name for it, like they did for The Outlands.
I got a lot of use out of Genasi in my campaign setting: there were places in the world where the boundaries between the planes was thin. People who lived in such regions would start seeing Genasi (or Teiflings/Aasimar) in their families after a couple of generations, depending on what plane was influencing that location. Since the elemental planes were much "closer" to the Material Plane, you were much more likely to meet a Genasi of some kind than any other 'planetouched'.
I feel like since the planes are infinite there has to be humanoids on them. Ive been kind of creating a list of races and race ideas.
water G has a 30' swim speed according to my digital book on DnDBeyond
Jim's ability to keep a straight face at the beginning is admirable.
Props to both of you for those magnificent puns. Thought they were very genie-ous. ;)
I've always thought genasi were very underused. A player of mine took a shine to a genasi NPC in Dragon Heist (Embric, the smith, whole party kinda took a shine to him), and when he had to bring in a new character asked if he could be his brother. The elemental nature is super unique even among all the variety of DnD races. Been concepting a genasi monk myself for next time I get to play.
If you're interested in seeing a non-D&D take on elemental creatures, my wife and I put out a trilogy of werewolf novels a few years ago. Search for The Ironborn Claim on Amazon, that's book one. It's fun to explore what the elemental core does both to individual characters and to the societies they create.
When I included Genasi in my world I took a very different approach, Genasi in my world are always people who are the result of a genies wish.
So if someone makes a wish that would create people, what they create is Genasi... the biggest source of Genasi, is the genasi civilization on the moon. Someone made a wish for his own kingdom upon the moon.
I just wish they released some supplement with something like new race feats for races that few underpowered or could use just some extra oompf.
for genasi I could see both a generic endurance based feat to go in line with the con buff and a more thematic feat, like getting extra spells based on your element, like drow high magic.
There is something for the Elemental Evil's, Volo's, and Tortle Races that was made by D&DBeyond, called something around the lines of the "Expanded Racial Feats"
@@logancoy2646 I might check it out, not usually a big fan of homebrewing tho
But then again, me suggesting ideas for feats also counts as homebrewing so why do I care? lol
Pass without Trace muffles impact, obscures vision, and erases footprints. Thus if you wish to make it Earth themed you can say that a cloud of dust slowly lifts off the ground and clings to the party.
I really did love how 4e gave Genasi a lot of options and I hope some day they do the same for 5e. I love Genasi and I hope they rework them for 5e at some point.
I called the intro before i even clicked XD
I added my Genasi as the first races of the Material world after the elemental planes bled to create the Material World.
Theirs is the oldest, darkest, deepest dungeons with the most awe-inspiring of magic. Additionally, if you wish to play one, a default backstory will be something along the lines of "I was in some magical experiment and now here I am millennia later."
(FYI My world leans into the implied low fantasy setting of RAW DnD)
Currently playing a Magma Genasi Forge Cleric I Homebrewed with my DM. Half Dwarf Half Azer.
I played a Water Gensai Storm Druid. Worked perfectly once my DM made the ruling that since I grew up in the depths of the sea I should be allowed Darkvision as the entire race should. Worked perfectly when flooding rooms with water spells and sitting inside friendly summoned Water Elementals for protection. Safely missed out on some battles by sleeping in safe underwater grottos while party slept in town.
Yup I have a friend playing a Earth genasi monk in my campaign and he is the only member of 5 players without darkvision lol.
For Air Genasi, I'd just change levitate to a "hover" ability. They can literally hover an inch off the ground at will, but otherwise their movement in entirely unchanged. Let's them avoid pressure plates and ball bearings/small traps, and nothing much else. A really useful ability, but not at all OP. Being able to go up 20ft and then... stay there... is just lame.
Maybe replace Earth's PWT with Catapult but only on pebbles, rocks, and stones. Sort of simulates an earth-based telekinesis, I don't know.
I think you need to reread how levitate works. First, you can target anyone (creatures without ranged attacks being extremely vulnerable), without allowing repeated saves to end the effect. Second, you move the target 20 feet up on your first turn, and can move it another 20 feet each turn after.
Agree the genasi could use a small buff though.
In eberron I've made a genasi city in droaam that uses the elements to their advantage homes molded from stone,canals full of clean water,fire beneath the city keeping everything warm and wind creating a tornado around the city protect it.
Just noticed this, but Pruitt is fucking JACKED. Makes sense for a Monk.
It is not Metal, but Wood instead which is the "fifth" element in Exalted.
Nice that they referenced it.
Water genasi DO have a swim speed
Alright, I'm not the only one who thought so
I wonder how that slipped through the research.
Air Genasi Bow Fighter, levitated a Shambling mound while we made our escape.
My game has both a Fire and an Air Genasi and they have both put their racial feats to great effect; The group Alchemist Artificer effectively created mustard gas to deal with a problem for a heist, so the Air Genasi held their breath, walked into the cloud of death and cast Levitate on the target wagon so it was light enough to pull out of the cloud of death, avoiding most of the planned combat. Later on the inn the group was sleeping in was set on fire as revenge for the earlier plot, the Fire Genasi used her fire resistance to repeatedly go back into the fire and help trapped people get out.
I really love Genasi. In my campaign world, there was an invasion from the various Genie rulers of the Elemental Planes. As a result, they or their ofspring control several large empires, with very high Genasi populations.
A Captain Planet reference right from the start. Excellent
Instantly one of my top 5 favorite intros, love you guys
Just re-watched it today. This might be my favorite cold open of them all. Great stuff guys!!
"They don't have much use."
Fire genasi: *have darkvision, fire resistance AND a free cantrip that can both produce light for party members and deal damage, all at level one*
The other three kinda suck a bit though.
I'm quite fond of Genasi. I have a Fire Genasi Oath of the Ancients Paladin, named Sir Brand. He's the child of a human adventurer who was rescued from Efreeti slavery by the Emir's daughter, who fled with him back to the Material Plane; where the two fell in love, settled down, and had Brand (that's not his birth name). He became a Paladin because he wanted to prove all the people who thought he was a monster growing up wrong, and he chose the Oath of the Ancients because he found that nature soothes his ego and helps him let go of all the anger he's let build up in his heart all his life.
I've yet to be able to play him, but that's less because of him, and more because I rarely get to play at all.
I think they don't see much play because their rules are only in The Elemental Evil Player's Companion Guide and The Princes of the Apocalypse Campaign Book.
I like the idea of coming up with a non-normal way for the planetouched to become that that ignores that race's normal place in the world. Three of my Aasimar are like this. One got possessed by an angelic being for a time, another was born through arcane meddling into divine magic that some might call necromancy, and the last one's dad actually succeeded in becoming a minor deity, retroactively making her celestial-blooded. That last one is also a Celestial Warlock, and you can guess who her patron is.
In your element would be fun In wind storms wind Genasi can use bonus actions to make additional weapon attacks with disadvantage ...
Thank you so much for the Avatar/Captain Planet reference. Made my day!
"Elves have the most"
Teifling: Is my bloodline a joke to you?
Love the Captain Planet reference! New sub for that alone.
I have 3 people in my group playing as Genasi including me, it’s really just a human with heavy flavoring
It's a shame so few people make them because they are AWESOME.
I found a homebrew that adds cross element race (IE ice and magma)
this then leads on to an empire that is like the British empire crossed with lots of bit of an average genasi life controlled to benefit the empire.
Honestly, this was the best intro you guys have done yet!
Just in time guys. I just created a Djinn merchant who sells potions called Manny. He has an air genasi daughter named Myridia who helps him out on the shop and might help out the party if they ever get there. Assuming I get a party together to play my campaign XD
I also had a water genasi sorcerer called Burbuja (Spanish word for bubbles) who died to slimes at early level. He just wanted to save his npc childhood friend, but no. The party wanted to leave him behind. It either ended in a TPK, or the rouge got away. I forgot. My perception check failed. I had trouble seeing past the evil that was the players that day XD
Lorewise, you could also take planar proximity into consideration. Maybe Earth Genasi deal the most with demons. Maybe Fire Genasi deal the most with devils. Maybe Air Genasi deal the most with angels. Maybe Water Genasi deal the most with... magic beasts or whatever's in those upper-right planes.
4:38 “You know what I wish dad?!”
Water Genasi have a swim speed of 30ft...
GENAIS!! WOO MY FAV RACE!!
Flavor-wise in the homebrew setting I've been tinkering away at, the genasi are the descendants of ancient humans who pioneered in planar-exploration, having traveled to the elemental planes in search of new resources who were then imprisoned by the genies for poaching their lands, then granted mutations by the genies in order to survive their generations of indentured servitude. Eventually later generations would earn their freedom and be allowed to serve as merchants and diplomats between the planes.
Mechanically, I would probably give them access to racial feats for more spells or party benefits.
Shouldn't Genasi be pronounced like "djinn" and "genie" with a soft G or J not a hard G? More like Jenasi ?
Oh lord, is this going to be like the .gif / jif debacle? 😳
This is how I've always pronounced it
@@AshtonPhoenix 🤣🤣🤣 Yes!
@@Karak971 You mean with the J or G?
Like genocide without the d.
I don't know what source they are using, but water genasi do have a 30ft swim speed and if you have a swim speed you do not have disadvantage on attacks when fighting in water. My water genasi monk got dragged into a lake by kelpi and he was perfectly fine continuing to fight down there.
So to the Con arguement, in a Pathfinder campaign i played a Witch who was CON and INT, he was a half-orc and with items his con reached a score of 22 so each lvl was 1d6+6 by lvl 18 he had somewhere between 170to 190hp and 16 AC so he always got hit but he never died
A Monk Genassi would seem to be an interesting character to play.
I am having a good time with mine. 4 elements monk Water Genasi that wants to master all elements. Pretty much wishes he was the avatar.
Most provocative discussion in a while - because they do need more lore-wise.
The Genasi absolutely need help in 5e, but would be way more appealing if 5e had the Kineticist from Pathfinder. Any CON based caster would be welcome, honestly. But a pyrokinetic fire genasi sounds like a great concept to me!
I've figured that the Genasi should have an additional base feature, shared by all of them. I don't think the minor magics and single ability bump would come off as weak if the whole group of them had another beneficial feature. Even some things like additional skills and proficiencies would help. It doesn't have to be a power feature.
My favorite character I made is my Life domain Water Genasi Geyser goes by Gey(Guy)
Yes! the captain planet reference amazing!! I was thinking the same thing when he said the opening
I'm pretty sure water genasi have a swimming speed of 30ft in both eepc and princes of the apocalypse books
I love genasi! I do wish they had a bit more....well more
There’s a handful in the second season of Critical Role, and Laura played one in the Darrington Brigade one shot.
Nice subtle Captain Planet reference
Pact of the genie warlock, his father is his patron he carries around
I play a Water Genasi pirate Tempest Cleric of Umberlee right now. Most fun I have had as a character. I do wish they got a once a day Tidal Wave or had a feat that expanded the Genasi race. Also kinda surprised they didn't get cold resistance.
As an air Genasi Horizon Walker/ Archivist Artificer I feel like I have to show my gratitude. And I actually thought Genasi were loved a little bit more :o
30:23 In trying to figure out how to make certain Personas in D&D, I figured that Thunder would make for a good air/wind-type damage
So... there's that
If you rub a magic lamp, you get a genie. If you rub a magic candle, do you get a Genasi?
Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes killed off any tactical reason for playing a water genasi. The others are fine, it's just that the Sea Elf subclass in tome of foes is literally just a better water genasi, and it bothered the crap out of me. A sea elf has all of the features of a water genasi, right down to being able to speak Aquan, but tacks on EVERYTHING an elf gets baseline. Genasi still have 8 hour long rests, can be put to sleep, charmed normally, etc. so it makes zero sense from a strategic standpoint to play one over a sea elf.
The difference here is I love the flavor of genasi waaaaay more than sea elves. The whole idea of them and their existence is part of the reason I think Dungeons and Dragons is the best rpg ever devised. It's just hard to knowingly gimp yourself, and some players will hound you on your choice no matter how many times you tell them your reasons.
Water Genasi also don't have darkvision, which means that they have to live in shallow water, whereas Sea Elves can go deeper.
Triton and Sea Elf dual-teamed Water Genasi into being mechanically obsolete.
Jeez do people really power game that hard that advantage on charms and dark vision is make or break for them? The trance is literally just a ribbon ability that makes you slightly better at keeping watch and gives you some down time to read a book or something. Being immune to sleep magic is also extremely niche. It might come in handy once in a whole campaign, if you are lucky. If you like the flavor of genasi just play that. The advantages of being an elf aren't game changers by any stretch of the imagination. Playing the character you want is far more important imo. And if someone gives you a hard time for that tell them mind their own business or fuck off.
@@Danne1886 The problem is, I always play based on RP, but two other races outshine Water Genasi at their own mechanics. Elves also get Darkvision and weapon profs, and Tritons step on their toes as well. Played a Marine Campaign with a Sea Elf, Triton, Lizardfolk and Water Genasi, and the Genasi definitely felt the least effective. It became obvious, we still had fun, but Triton having natural water magic, the Sealf and Lizard being better at Marine combat, etc. made the W Genasi player feel like he had no specialty or thing he was good at. Not to mention he played Four Elements Monk, which deepened the gap. Feeling ineffectual mechanically can ruin people's RP experience. I just wish WoTC made the three Aquatic Races feel more distinct with their own specialities.
@@Danne1886 and even if someone is that focused on mechanics the different stat bumps are a thing to consider. Not as big a deal with 5es (near) complete aversion to stat penalties (one of my favorite things about 5e is being able to play any race and class without being punished for an unusual combo) but it is nice in point buy campaigns to still be able to start with a 16. Also the lack of spells on sea elves. They might not usually have a combat use, but control water has a suprising amount of utility and when you need create/destroy water you'll be glad to have it. Both fun for pranks too
17:55 that's like saying half elves should have more fey related powers than satirs or gnomes.
I'd think teiflings have the most subraces.
Tieflings and elves
DM: have you narrowed down what character you want to play?
Player: I've narrowed it down to a subelf Teifling Cleric.
DM: (glad we aren't starting the campaign today)
15:07 It's interesting that you guys mention Darkvision. Currently I'm playing in a CoS campaign with 3 players, me as an Air Genasi and the other two as a Changeling and a Human. I think this is the first time I've ever played DnD where nobody in the party has darkvision.
Genasi seems so blank when there’s so much there. I think I would maybe give them the elemental adept feat as standard, or a free thematic cantrip and spell. If they’re an earth Genasi I’d be tempted to give them +1 AC. Air should get flight or levitate. Water should get a swim speed. It’s a rich ground that feels very underwhelming
What I always found hilarious was the Air Genasi are better for an underwater adventure than Water Genasi are XD