REM de l'Est | Demystified
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- Опубликовано: 14 дек 2020
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Ellen taking over Reece for basically every Montreal related video.. I think Reece is just afraid to pronounce those French names xD
Pity the close captioning can’t understand her
Toronto and Vancouver better watch out, Montreal is going to be the new top dog soon lol...
Montreal was always the top dog. We were hibernating for a few years but Montreal is back tabarnak!!
That’s highly likely and at the same time they remind me of the Japanese. By that I mean that they’re low key and patient but when they get consensus, they go for it and do incredible leaps in one shot.
This extension was totally unexpected.
Toronto will always remain behind that's for sure.
@@donkeydik2602 🤣😂🤣
@@bennythepooh4905 There's been projects to expand public transit to the East for 3 decades now. The Pix-IX White metro line (project abandoned in the early 2000s), the Pink metro line (late 2010s proposal), the Notre-Dame tramway & Henri-Bourassa tramway loop, the SRB loop on Pie-IX / René-Lévesque / Parc, etc. Possible routes for public transit and even major station locations had already been identified for a long time. So in a way, everything was already in place for a fast-tracked project. It's just that nobody could agree on the type of public transit before.
Highly jealous how Montréal is ramming full speed on transit expansion of this caliber. The only other city in the US that is on similar pace with expansion would be LA Metro. I think New York really needs to take a page or two from Montréal's book in order to get transit expansion for the outer boroughs
You got that right.
It's still kind of disappointing that they announced the REM de l'Est before deciding about the Dorval extension, though. Just by extending the tunnel a few hundred meters, they can connect to one of Montreal's major bus terminals as well as both commuter and intercity rail stations, and the cost to do that extension is much cheaper once the machine is already in the ground digging the tunnel.
New York has insane costs, the 2nd Ave Subway shows that. They need reforms to their labor costs and other measures to get things under control.
I think all our cities need to take a page from Montréal not just New York
@@tristanexists1806 not my city lol. You mean every north AMERICAN. CITY
Great to see expansion of the REM! I hope REM B goes through and great video!
Best wishes for a full and speedy recovery to Reece!
I just went through the PDF they released and it looks absolutely amazing. Can't wait!
I personally think the line is not really well thought. The pink line made so much more sense. Rosemont is one of the populous neighbourhoods and they dont have proper transport. The line should have cut threw the existing blue and green line diagonally. Also the recent amt line to mascouche becomes totally irrelevant except if you want to go to mascouche or terrebonne.
Great job Ellen! Get well soon Reece!
Last time I was this early, the REM right of way was used by commuter trains.
ya beat me to it!
I think REM l'Est trains will be the same but blue, and with different headlights, or maybe something similar to the unused designs for A.
Since there were three train livery designs for us to choose from I'd like them to just use the St-Laurent design for this expansion since it will mostly run along the river. Best IMO to keep the basic green livery but the small tweaks in styling and headlights would be sufficient to both make it different and keep the branding in line with everything else.
@@caribbb i wouldn't think they would keep the green tbh, because the reason the trains were green is because that is the theme of Ligne A right? So I would think Ligne B would be blue because that's the colour used to mark the route. I think green was originally supposed to be "REM theme", but I think now that there is another line, I think it might change. Who knows though.
@@thegreypenguin5097 good points. Time will tell I guess. If it changes to blue then I hope they still keep the basic REM theme designs. There should be at least a bit of consistency to the two lines. It’ll look good in either colour.
Excellent analysis Ellen! ⭐️ Get well soon Reece! 🌹
I love how you said “the foot of Pie-IX,” that’s an expression I use too. ❤️ That station will probably be very busy.
It’s a very exciting announcement. Since it’s headed by the CDPQ (Quebec pension funds, which are very well run), there’s a good chance it will be actually realized, not just perpetually announced (like the blue line had been...)
Tunneling: it’s actually cheaper than cut-and-cover. Easier, faster, less disruptive. Especially in Montreal with its hard Ordovician limestone bedrock, it doesn’t need to be that deep. I’m a geographer also, I know this. But I admit it’s counterintuitive.
Elevated: though it will be a little noisier, it won’t be any noisier than the 8 (!) lane boulevard underneath it. And it might make René-Lévesque blvd even better, it’s not exactly an attractive street now! They seem properly committed to making the downtown “L” an architectural signature.
Capacity: I hope they do make the stations with the capacity for 4 cars. But a cheaper option is to make the Souligny/Hochelaga junction a triangle 🔺 rather than a Y so some Pointe-aux-Trembles trains could run up to Marie-Victorin, equalizing the 3 branches and giving more flexibility in the future. I believe that option of mixing the routes exists with the SkyTrain?
Stations: they did a relatively good job at placement. Some name choices annoy me, they could have added a couple more, but it’s an excellent starting plan! ⭐️
My ironic comment: they announced this the very day a friend of mine decided to sell his condo near the future Contrecœur station... Synchronicity... 🤪
My sarcastic comment: they managed to doubly annoy me: with the REM/A being “light” green (apple? lime?), we got 2 green lines in Montreal... Now with the REM/B being turquoise, not only do we have a 3rd green line, but also at the same time a 2nd blue line! 🙄 Obviously they weren’t going to make a clear map and use red or purple or brown... And especially not pink! That would be saying Valerie Plante was right about demanding a new metro line... 😜
Excellent comment! They might want to consider a triangle, though Vancouver actually doesn't have them. That being said it's easy to turn trains around at interchanges!
Unfortunately this only marginally reduces the need for the pink line. Yes, Rosemont East, St-Leonard and Montréal North will now have an easy and quick access to the city. However the biggest advantage of the pink line is that it goes through the two highest density boroughs in the entire city (the Plateau and central Rosemont), which are currently relying on crowded buses that inch their way from stop to stop during rush hour. In addition the orange line below jean-talon is typically already full until Berri, which means people of those neighborhoods can’t even get on the subway. A pink line connecting Mount Royal and somewhere between Pie-IX and Assomption would be the project with the highest benefit for the most number of people in the city. However the big issue with this project is the diagonal line would be extremely expensive to build.
I agree! The pink line is still needed for the actual dense section of Rosemont where a large portion of the city lives.
This part of population did not vote CAQ but liberal... So Legault will not accomodate them.
As someone who lives in Rosemont I generally agree with this sentiment. However I’m still very supportive of the current proposal and its ability to cover large parts of eastern and NE Montreal that have very poor transit.
At the moment transit connections in Rosemont isn’t terrible, as it’s served by both Blue Line and 3 stations on the Orange Line with good bus connections.
@@guldukat2453 Rosemont is a rapid transit desert, only the small petite-patrie shoulder has rosemont and beaubien stations. The buses like 197 and 45 are extremely congested and slow
Excellent video! The northern line will run near to my home. The whole project now including the eastern extension will be awesome. It’s really exciting.. can’t wait for it! It’s
It would be great to see a future extension continue west and connect to YUL, providing some redundancy and a shorter connection time
100% agree!
I wholeheartedly agree also.
The CP right if way from downtown to Lachine is just begging to be reused as a westward extension of the REM-B.
Hopefully by 2040...
When I’ll hopefully be 76! 😜
Great video. As soon as I saw the announcement, I thought to myself “Cant wait till RMTransit covers this”. Keep it up!
I'm glad you seemed to remember the unique way the compass works in Montréal ! ^_^
Still quite a few problems with this vision but let's goooo!
Great Video! It was nice to hear Ellen again and here’s to a speedy recovery for Reece.
They should still the pink line from Mount-Royal to Langelier, would help reduce orange line crowding. Preferably done using tunnel borring machines and no expropriations except for stations.
Thank you very much for explaining this. Great video.
a west branch would be a dream come true
There is already one? Or several under construction as we speak... one to Dorval airport the other to St Anne on the western tip of the island.
@@guldukat2453 there is a rumour -- mentioned in the video near the end -- that the B line might eventually be extended directly west from downtown into Lachine and Dorval, which are currently severely underserved. The A line goes north from downtown and then turns west, bypassing the heavily populated areas west of downtown.
Same comment I gave above.
The CP right of way from downtown to Lachine should be reused as a westward extension of the REM-B.
@@mr51406
Agreed.
Now, go talk to CP. Good luck with that.
@@erictremblay4940 I know! The railroads are dogs in the manger when it comes to sharing their rails and even their rights of way.
See Reece’s video on the regional line from Calgary west towards Banff.
However, does the ARTM own the rail line from Lucien-L’Allier to the Lachine junction? Only exo trains use that segment. Ideally that segment should be bought outright to do with as they please. Just as the ARTM bought out the CN Deux-Montagnes line. And even I think the CP line between Blainville and St-Jérôme too. That’s the future.
Awesome video once again!! This project is super impressive and I love learning all the details
The Mayor's proposal was not thought out, could just make these REM plus an extension of the blue line. As well when the work is being done the extension to Bois Franc on the orange line
As someone working on the REME developing the definition drawings that will be used for the RFP I would love to be able to share some of the things that have already been decided and changed from when the project was first announced. Unfortunately an NDA prevents me from discussing that which is not already in the public. I shall say that while most of the fundamentals of the project are similar to what is presented here, there are some important changes that due to that NDA I can't disclose. But it's worth keeping an ear to the ground for when the project details do make it's way to the public. At that time I might suggest an update video to cover the changes. Sadly I don't know when these details will be released. I work for Systra IBT as a drafter since 2014. This means I have worked on both the new Samuel de Champlain Bridge and the REM project in Montreal as well as projects in Kingston (the third crossing bridge) and Davenport Diamond a rail grade separation for MetroLinx and Go Transit in Toronto with other great projects across Canada on the horizon as well.
Is the project still alive
The government announced two days ago that it will cut the segment passing in the downtown.
Get better soon Rhys!
There is a slight error in the video. The planned route from where the line will split on Dickson will take Souligny to the east and not Hochelaga. Souligny is 2 blocks down from Hochelaga and already has an unused rail line that belongs to CN.
Montréal was supposed to build some kind of tram going west along Notre Dame through St. Henri and ending in Lachine. I wonder if it’ll be the western expansion to this rem line they just announced
I think that's likely
Good stuff, keep it up :)
Hope they can extend the rem de l'est westwards to replace the Vaudreuil commuter rail line eventually
Taichung's MRT kinda upends common prejudices of 2-car trains #臺中捷運
Im from montreal and i appreciate great infrastructure design in mtl but as we speak many residents have trouble with this project. Might i add that montreal as many mayors representing each boroughs and the rem de l'est would have significant impact on those districts and representative participation is dismal towards the project.furthermore, montreal will have municipal elections in febuary 2021, completly shifting the project at the mercy of political conflict.
I propose REM take over the cummter line west covers St. Henry, NDG at Vendome, again a small station at Grand Boulevard, another just past Cavandish, the current Montreal West station, Lachine, Dorval transit loop, and maybe towards the airport as well and a branch to Beaconsfield. If they all meet at the Boventure hub it works great. But a branch towards LaSalle could be added too.
Also wishing Reece a speedy recovery
I wish the GO Train system can be like that. I prefer a subway-styled GO train.
They both have their uses, a LRT system like this can't handle the passenger load at rush hours the way heavy rail does (especially bi-levels coaches).
Hope that Alstom (if they are picked as supplier) will build the train sets in Canada this time.
Great for Montreal; but as always, this plan seems to skip, omit or consolidate station stops where proper spacing would eliminate the need for a parallel bus service.
I don't think rapid transit should have similar spacing to a bus, rapid transit is the express service
@@RMTransit I agree but, for instance, look at the Lacordaire underground section, stops should be at Robert, Couture and Montreal Nord AMT Stn, instead the proposal places a single stop over that entire stretch from Jarry (St Leonard) to Henri Bourassa (Rolland) at Honore Mercier, a minor residential street with no redevelopment potential.
The Sherbrooke branch also skips Des Ormeaux, Broadway and 32e Ave, which all have connecting bus routes along them. Adding 5 stations surely won't bankrupt the project.
Do you guys have any plan to cover the Suburban Rail Loop in Melbourne in the near future, I think it would be super interesting to hear you guys talking about it, considering the recent progress of the project.
Yes
Hi hopefully you can talk about Bringing back service to Rigaud from Hudson. Valuable CP route from Montreal to Ottawa can't be lost and it can coexist with a trail side by side. Maybe the Ontario side of this line can be O Train. Quebec side Exo and connect at province border.
Yo Montreal is getting a pink line
Greetings from Chicago IL 🇺🇲
There should be more extensions into Laval
What i dont understand is will the Rem de L'est be a separate company or organization? Why would it not be connected with the original rem to form one large network?
Its going to be still own by the same people that owns the REM such ARTM, NouvLR etc however the layout of gare centrale cant hold the Eastern branch of the REM. So instead of basically demolishing it they building a station near gare Centrale and Mansfield bus terminal (Which is a 5 min walk from gare centrale) named after a former mayor of Montreal Robert Bourassa.
But it will make more sense if There will be a real connection with the REM A line without getting ooutside of a station. Maybe not Gare central, but McGill.
I hope Reece is feeling better by now
I am! (Mostly)
Can you do a video on the massive system expansion of sound transit in Seattle?
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@@RMTransit Oh I didn't see that. Thanks!
Any plans Orange line will be a circle line so far?, Thanks
No
Interesting video. Are these trains electrically powered or diesel? I would love to know. In Australia, we still haven’t caught up with the rest of the world in the 21st century. Our long distance trains -interstate- are diesel hauled; so much for the environment and Climate Change!
It's a metro (quite similar to the Sydney metro) so obviously electric.
RIP
The Atlanta beltline would be a good demystified video.
I think atlanta has already spent to many years demystifying the belt line itself instead of building it 😌....
Great vidéo ! Done so quick after the annoucement AWESOME! Anyways for the center track I do not like the elevated portion. Maybe a ground portion like Strasbourg will be better. I feel like an elevated track in the center of Montréal could worsen the landscape.
It cannot be at ground level as it is automated, I think it will be fine! Lots of cities have elevated trains in their centers.
To be fair, that area of MTL along René Lévesque is already quite dreary and ugly, so an elevated train really wouldn’t make it any worse ...
@@guldukat2453 🤣🤣😂 so if it the case maybe an elevated track could make it better !!!
Another missing point is the lack of link between line A and line B of the REM.
@@RMTransit Much of the REM will be at ground level, particularly the existing Deux-Montagnes section.
Please talk about Brisbane's Cross River Rail project
It's planned
1st
Another missing point is the lack of link between line A and line B of the REM.
There's a connection at Central
It is definetly mot properly connected.
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@@RMTransit I live in Montréal, around Bonaventure so I have a good idea of Gare centrale distance to Robert Bourassa street. It is not properly connected , meaning that you Do have choice to go outside to get from Robert Bourassa to Gare central or Bonaventure metro.
@@chachatheone1 you're right. I used to live in Montreal too
Montreal really wants to compete with the Paris RER huh?
I mean, it's the 2nd biggest french speaking city in the world after Paris. Why not compete!
Not really, the model is based on Vancouver Skytrain. They have alot of similarities, station design, train, etc. The only thing that it will be different is the electricity will be over the train instead of on the track to avoid snow and ice accumulation. Our trains on the winter does not perform really well and REM resolve alot of problems we have. The real bad thing about that is the cdpq will make money but as a citizen we will be loosing and we will have to pay more on the long term.
@@Katrielle_Going_To_Quebec It's the third. Kinshasa is the largest French speaking city in the world. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinshasa
@@jv6dmc
CDPQ is a way more efficient project manager than any other government entities. The REM1 will be operating way sooner (and way cheaper) than any other government entities would have been capable of (look at the Metro Laval extention, or the Blue line extention).
The subsidy (in passenger - kilometer) that CDPQ will obtain is less than the current subsidy of operating STM buses / métro. So it's a bargain actually.
And anyways, Quebecers own CDPQ, so any profits are Quebecer's gain! (And allows better returns to RRQ, SAAQ etc)
Maybe things work differently in Canada than the US, but it’s interesting that it’s always assumed that a new rail line should have an expensive bored tunnel in the urban core, but when the private sector gets involved an elevated line is in? Why can’t our tax money build cheaper rapid transit?
The REM ends up with a mix of all three (tunnel, surface, elevated) depending on the needs of the area it passes through, which really does seem like the best approach to me. I don't really understand why the builders of the metro insisted on it being 100% underground at the start, and designed it in such a way that it could never be extended above-ground.
@@guspaz during the 60s tunneling was cheaper considering the alternatives, also the metro is very heavy ridership making it profitable. Just the orange line has more daily ridership then the total ridership of many north american cities. Also, of course, the most obvious advantage, montreal winters are long and harsh. That many people outside doesnt make sense.
@@alainouellet7794 The winter part isn't the problem; the original rolling stock even had heaters, and the stations didn't need to be outdoors. The problem is that they designed the cars such that they can't get wet. Even if they had planned the original system to be entirely underground, it would have been good foresight to at least design the system in such a way that future expansion aboveground would not be impossible.
It could be expanded aboveground . . .
Montreal is also accelerating the orange line extension and the tramway to Nord-Montreal. Exciting time.
At minimum all the stations should have provision for 4 carriage trains.
Nice video, good explanation. The pronunciation of the French names was distracting.
i’m not a fan of the 2 car trains :/
maybe 4 cars will be nice but i’d like them to be like the metro.. where you have an open space to walk freely between cars
That’s all you need during off hours
@@bretwein3793 i guess it is economical lol
sometimes i get drafted into cosmetics lol
I hope Reece comes back with a beard, just sayin
I was seriously discounting this announcement as just Legault grandstanding and buying votes but a lot of this makes sense But the cost makes me wary that this is just another failed project
What about the station that's in danger in the Montreal-Trudeau airport?? 😰😱
Pretty sure the feds said they will pay for it.
Federal government will pay the the $600 mil shortfall as a loan to the airport authority. Tunneling is already in progress towards the airport terminal.
FWIW, CDPQ early planning for the REM YUL station was like $200M.
Aéroport de Montreal (ADM) added many compoments (not judging here) which ended up increasing the cost to $600. But hey, ADM was paying that part. (And as agreed, CDPQ was paying the tunnel branch to get there)
I can understand why Quebec was not to keen to pitch in to pay for that station, on federal land.
REM de l'Est: why only these high-frequency, high-tech, high-speed, big-infrastructures solutions? The demand doesn't sees to be there. Rather, a local or peak-hours services may be more adapted. Why not:
a) use, at ground level, the old southern CN railbead from Pointe-aux-Trembles to Longue-Pointe;
b) select technologies such as the EXO suburban trains or maybe a light rail;
c) choose a connexion with the green line of the métro: easy at L'Assomption, Radisson and Frontenac or, with more infrastructure building: the Berri-UQAM hub or somewhere on the yellow line north.
This kind of intermediate and lower cost solution would allow for generating the demand, which could benefit a future REM at a later stage.
Cause the rem will be cheaper in the long-term, incourage development along the line, and be more convenient. Demand will materialize as the line is built cause developers will start building homes and businesses near the line cause its close to downtown
@@Sink9K The problem with the REM solution on Sherbrooke is the presence of industrial and commercial sites to the north and on part of the south side, past Contrecoeur St., of which we don't know how much will be redeveloped for residential use. REM is a solution very much focused on the distant suburbs, passing along highways with connection by car via large parking lots. Part of these targetted users are already served by EXO 5 from Pointe-aux-Tremble station to Mascouche on the North Shore.
The more southern option of the CN corridor would be more "urban" by a) serving a clientele already established in the suburbs both sides of this corridor, b) reducing costs, and c) generating demand for a more developed future system such as REM.
@@etiennegilbert666 these industrial and commercial sites are fairly under developed and a rapid transit solution near them coupeled with and rise in residential developments will help the commercial operations around the line and probably replace the under used industry with more housing
I love your work but I think you have the Blue Line Extension wrong. It never goes north of the A-40: stm.info/en/about/major_projects/major-metro-projects/blue-line-extension
Yeah I used an old map unfortunately
The problem I have with this project is that there will be elevated portions downtown. Montreal's downtown is really nice. Adding an elevated track to Rene-Levesque boulevard is going to be ugly. I'm all for public transit, but can't they just put the tracks and stations underground in the downtown section? It would add to the cost, but I think it would be worth it. I believe it's more of a priority to put this project underground in the downtown area than under Lacordaire boulevard. It would also add to the already big underground city.
Aucune masse justifiable de personne n'attend avec impatience ce REM en plus, du réseau d'autobus, métro, piste cyclables, transports spéciaux (vers l'aéroport)... Celui-ci transformera la vie a l'inverse de l'agréable appartenance collective (au coût minimum, incitatif), dans la vie de tous et l'inflation du coût de la vie, pour le privé, non la collectivité habituellement propriétaire des nécessités.
Les instigateurs et travailleurs du REM sont les superficiels sans cervelles qui veulent profiter du pays (en suicidaire, ou drogués sans conscience des vrais bases).., pour ensuite aller dépenser a Cuba ou autres, notre économie.., plus qu'avant. Tout ce que l'on voit dans ce vidéos, des immigrants travailleurs, échangeurs de guerre économique emmenant notre économie vers leurs pays, diminuant la valeurs de la qualité de vie au Canada et celle du dollars, dans un emparé progressif s'enracinant a la place de l'évolution du légitime de l’après UK a renforcer en culture distincte et souveraineté nationale du Canada.
Si vous trouver ce texte lourd ou négatif.., ce n'est rien encore face a une vie déjà restreinte qui le serait de plus en plus... Il faut être capable de lire la vérité. "Conscient" du malaise a ne pouvoir souvent rien y faire, mais la conscience des bases de vrai importance aide a la non continuité... Il y a encore et toujours une possibilité (a tout les jours) a ne pas épuiser pour reprendre le contrôle de vos vie avant de vous la faire contrôler pour toujours, vivre en robots ou en mourir plus tôt. N'attendez pas de vous faire imposer vos états d'esprit (et diminution d'immuno-défense ou états de santé) partout ou vous aller par tout ces ondes commerciale intégrées et intentionné (communications mobiles, ondes pacificatrices d’inconscience, correcteurs sonore du bruit ambiant, wifi...) et ces trains (de plus en plus privé, extrêmement imposés et sur-vendu, étirant leurs temps de contrôle) voulant que vous passiez obligatoirement par eux pour commencer et terminer votre journée tout en vous suivant aussi dans chacun de vos déplacements sociaux ou autres. A chaque fois que vous utiliser votre carte de réseau (OPUS) par on ne sait qui, avec tout ces vols de données du gouvernement et autres, annoncé "rapidement" mais régulièrement par un gouvernement qui encourage toujours plus fortement l'utilisation des paiements de cartes de crédit "privé" en ligne (comme pour le permis, SAAQ renouvelable par année, a la place de 3-5 ans ou plus comme l'assurance maladie.., a aller payer quelque part, en argent comptant, moins fréquemment).
La technologie et le "hi-tech" est complexe, offre un trop de variables, porte d’accès. Elle donne toutes idées aux déviant de ce monde. La technologie dans les secteurs vitaux ne devrait jamais être prise a la légère, c'est le paradis des pirates la ou avant.., il n'y avait presque aucune porte possible a essayer, sans se faire prendre par quiconque comprenant des logique "d’être ou ne pas être"... Vous ne voulez pas vivre dans un monde ou l'on peux adresser un jeux individuel et suivi pour n'importe qui, modifier la vie ou l'évolution de chaque individus, groupe ou société, pas plus que celui ou l'on pourrait subir une agression au moment ou tout s’arrêterait de fonctionner a la pression d'un bouton agissant sur une mini puce ou autre a l'intérieur des moteurs électronique, informatique et systèmes essentiels qui auparavant nous protégeais de leurs simple mécanique plus protective qu'une poignée d'informaticiens ayant chacun leurs ambitions suicidaire ou non dans le moteur des mouvement naturel de la vie.
Si ce n'est pas une imposition démocratique (de nécessité exemplaire, au coût minimum, fabriqué par le pays, voulus de tout et tous), ce ne peux pas être bien. Tout comme chaque intervenant ou représentant politique (appauvrissant du national) qui l'on poussé, sans profit ou bénéfice marginaux pour eux vous croyez..???
(-PAIX)
The alignment of this expansion is so crazy... nobody has ever asked for rapid transit on rene-levesque and this train travels like 3 km over oil refineries in the east end. this will cannibalize ridership from both the green line and Pie-IX BRT. i seriously hope it doesn't get built and they upgrade the mascouche line to metro standards instead.
You cannot easily upgrade the Mascouche Line the Metro standards, that’s the problem.
@@RMTransit and building a 10 kilometre tunnel under lacordaire will be easy? why can't the mascouche line be upgraded? it's already been suggested seriously twice before, look up Line 3 (red) and line 6 of the montreal metro
Cut and cover tunnelling and tunnelling on the island is generally easy yeah, for tunnelling.
@@RMTransit tunnelling is incredibly expensive and you didn't mention how that process whether TBM or cut-and-cover would be easier than upgrading an existing rail mainline. im sure purchasing the tracks from CN would cost less than building a 10km tunnel.
Ah you’d actually probably not be correct there, especially if it’s cut and cover.
Please translate your vidéo in French
Looks like we are going to try!
there are people on the discord that can and might try // il y a des personnes sur la discorde qui peuvent et pourraient essayer