Same... i should know better as practically a lifelong wow addict. It was my last chance for them though. No more blizzard ever for me don't care if it's a good game in the future.
And just think what we r playing isnt even the full game, its only going to get better, a lot better. GGG actually listens to the player base and gives them what theyre asking for. The QoL that is provided this way is also immeasurable
As someone who grew up playing Diablo and recently got to know POE2 (I didn't have the privilege of knowing POE) I have to admit that, even though I love Diablo, POE2 takes the ARPG experience to the next level, its entire gameplay structure is designed to be one step ahead of its predecessor (except for the inventory but that's a detail I'm willing to ignore), its passive tree, skill and support gems and its class structure make it have much greater potential than what has been seen so far in installments of the same genre. I already experienced early access and I can only wish for the finished product to come out. PS: Seriously, change the inventory structure 😅
@philipandrews9211 on my 1st character I never got one and I quit warrior on 67 LVL-ish Then I drop div on Monk on LVL 60 in act 3 cruel on the first map (before ziggurat) from a mini boss (ent one)
200 hours in one level 89 and one level 79, No div drop yet lol I've gotten more than a div worth of exalted and drops sure but not the actual drop yet.
Yeah I chose shock monk just to try something different, as I’ve been a Barb main since D4 launch. At lv 63 now, I can confidently say I’ll never be touching D4 again., though it does have some systems better than poe2
Bro you low level game is not fun after lvl 85+ cuz every death is very punishing. I'm 89 and when I die form shit I couldn't even see or react 2 I'm furious. You lose 10% exp and good map. U will see
@ thanks for the doom and gloom I guess? Sounds mostly like a skill issue though. I’ll make my own perception of the difficulty, as I’ve just now reached maps..
Dont listen to the doom and gloom. I have 3 characters all running t15/16 lvls 85-87-89. Death makes you play smarter. It forces you to get better at the game. And with the incoming fixs. Deaths will be fewer. This game is in a pre bata version. They are working out the kinks.
@@RebelOfTheNorm242 crazy, I had the exact OPPOSITE reaction.. after 150hrs in PoE2, went back to D4 and it literally made me appreciate D4 soooo much more! PoE2 is a shell of a game and missing so many QoL features it’s insane the amount of copium people are on saying it’s good. It’s a waste of time and just not fun after hitting endgame with 1 character. All the classes feel the same with identical passive tree and gems.. repeating Act 1-3 over and over and over again is the most boring thing ever.. why can’t we skip campaign?? Because endgame is horrible and there’s nothing else to do except Maps. I might try it again in 2+ years after they release a decent game but this EA excuse to make $$$ was dogwater
Having lots of fun with poe2 it has a solid start, melee has some issues that needs to be addressed and the endgame doesn't feel too fleshed out but it's early access and I'm looking forward to the game getting better
Theres no real bad issue with melee, you are meant to combine maces with other melee weapons! Mace/axes Mace/swords Mace/flails And maybe Mace/daggers They are not in the game yet, we cant combine yet so it gives the perception that melee has issues!!
@@jadeapiata6545 being pushed by beetles during your mace skills feels awful. I feel as if certain momentum attacks should allow you to push small enemies and also the trial of the sekhemas is built around not getting hit which sucks when you build your character to be a tank
I really love grim dawn. But I just can't play it anymore on my pc cuz it's a pixelmush on my big screen. I really hope they will deliver some graph upgrade with the DLC
Poe2 is so good that it made me appreciate d4 more. The tetris, the backtracking, the 100$ you need to spend for stash tabs, the complex endgame where you can choose between clearing a map or clearing a map, or if you feel lucky you can clear a map, the complex crafting system where you can gamble or gamble or target gamble untill you get the item you want from the action house, and most but not least the drop, nothing feels better than geeting drops for every class except yours. Truly a masterpiece of shit.
@jaimesuazo560 I dont think so. Maybe some. But many of us ol diablo fans, couldnt deal with the pov of poe1 and or often the community of poe1 being so toxic, so skipped it for other things.
Yesterday when Mark told DM that the designers designed poe2 without changeable ascendancies and they can't go against designers. Sounds just like something Blizzard would say. GGG is just as greedy as Blizzard. But as least Blizzard ain't got Ten Cent CCP.
In what term they are greedy because if this? All this means if you want, you need to make another char. Is it cost you more money or something? The game will be completely free once on full launch. This sounds anything but greedy to me.
@@KrigHammar their greed lies in many other things.. I see their design with inventory and bag space and loot system forcing people to buy premium stash tabs as greedy, because default is horrible!! Their MTX shop is insane prices and also shows their greed. They make a lot of design choices based on making $$$ not the best game experience possible
@mjackels1377 bro, stash tab is literally the only thing you need for endgame. I bought stash tab around 6 or 7 years ago for 12 dollar and I was able to transfer it from poe1 to poe2. How many other games have you seen where you were able to transfer your transmog, mtx to the next game? Holy moly. Any other skin is just optional, you don't have to buy it. If you do, is your choice, but nut their. GGG is the least greedy company in the last 15 years. Plz don't spread any misinformation. You can just say you don't like the game, but lying it's another topic.
@@mjackels1377not that I’m in support of microtransactions in games, but an extra loot tab is $3…its really not that crazy if you get enough enjoyment out of a free game to use up all your free stash tabs
diablo isnt the first ARPG, it doesnt own dungeon crawlers, it failed to advance its own franchise for year sand now someone else is doing it vastly better. Is what it is. Hate more, doesnt matter, poe2 in EA better than d4 all this time after launch
@NickRigas-rd3zv i don't think so with all the bugs, the player movement is slow and it doesn't have enough bag space and that is just the start of what me and some others have seen.
Bag space trash.. inventory management trash.. itemization trash.. build variety trash.. infinite dodge roll easy mechanics.. early game unfinished.. endgame unfinished.. maps trash.. passive skill tree being the same exact copy across all classes trash.. exact same skills and support gems across all classes trash.. controller optimization trash.. console version trash.. nerfs to most fun builds trash.. combat and movement speed slow af trash.. chasing resistance gear and magic find gear trash.. MTX prices trash.. paying for QoL trash.. need I go on?
1. Its ea 2. D4 is absolut trash, Blizzards is trash, mobs get stronger with you absolut worst decision ever You probably know absolutely nothing about POE2, all your points are trash and simple minded😂
I like how this meme is aimed at players who like D4 who complain about how hard PoE 2 is and how “bad the endgame system” is when their opinion is completely a dog take when they defend a game with no endgame system or item chase system for finding gear, complain it has no loot when they don’t understand the looting system or complain that it exists. And yet here they are, complaining. No one is making you stay here, if you wanna go play D4 go ahead, no one’s stopping you, but you aren’t going to convince other people to join you in that dead game.
Its so real, look no further than the poe official forums for those poe 2 baby accounts from d4 crying abt the diffIculty and yet they cant stop playing it.
actually if you look at the numbers poe2 is dwindling to critical levels and might not make it. D4 season 4 was better than anything poe2 can ever be. ign gave it 8 and players are leaving this mid game with generic derivative gameplay
There’s nothing in the “endgame” that’s not doable before max level besides farming Uber bosses for hours on end lmao. Oh wow a raid that takes 30 mins, much endgame, much chase
@cestor Endgame? Making currency from farming items to sell. Finding boss pinnacle invites, beating all the pinnacle bosses all the way to tier 4, finding all the chase items from the pinnacle bosses. Finding a mirror. Making your character crazy good? Beating the 4th Ascendancy bosses. Playing multiple fun builds. There’s plenty to do and this is a beta EA. You’re comparing Diablo 4 which has had 1.5 years of development and still doesn’t compete with this. I’m also not going to argue with someone who’s infallible and doesn’t know enough about PoE 2 to know what they don’t know about the point of the endgame.
Ive never seen a game gain so much popularity only to be dead 2 weeks later. Poe2 is just a boring grind and the loot is terrible. Anyone that says otherwise hasnt played endgame. 3/10. D4 and poe2 are bad in their own ways.
dawg the game is going to double its classes, skill gems, and gameplay acts when it releases into 1.0 … i have a mercenary at endgame and the grind is fun. sounds like you might have picked a bad build?
@@isaacashton5772that’s what I was gonna say. I mean his comment is obvious bait, but part of the problem of why people think D4 is better than PoE 2 is because D4 is created for mobile gamers that aren’t necessarily good at aRPGs, it’s easier to enjoy a game when everything is handed to you to make your character better after playing for 20 hours and you don’t actually have to think about anything. Loot is bad? Maybe use maps with rarity on the right map nodes with Breach. Can’t sustain your waystones? Do your highest waystones on boss nodes. Build isn’t working? Maybe you gotta figure out why and not all skill gems are created equally. Lmao idk man, the game poses a challenge and all the people who like D4 don’t know what a challenge is, all they know is Tomb Lord
In single player, it's unplayable. I went back to Diablo. Seriously. Diablo doesn't force you to be online with everyone which slows down the game. POE is very choppy and lags beyond belief. In the middle of boss fights, it says pause. Pause. Pause. Pause. No thanks.
Yeah I chose shock monk just to try something different, as I’ve been a Barb main since D4 launch. At lv 63 now, I can confidently say I’ll never be touching D4 again., though it does have some systems better than poe2
The Longer I Play POE2 the more I feel embarrassed for buying diablo 4
Same... i should know better as practically a lifelong wow addict.
It was my last chance for them though. No more blizzard ever for me don't care if it's a good game in the future.
And just think what we r playing isnt even the full game, its only going to get better, a lot better. GGG actually listens to the player base and gives them what theyre asking for. The QoL that is provided this way is also immeasurable
naah man diablo was a good filler for the real shit. what else would u play before poe2 came out
I pay d4 for My friend my girlfriend and paye me the big version event pay the dlc full price because I was expecting d4 be good
Ah yes Diablo 4 without a Diablo in the game, quality trash
As someone who grew up playing Diablo and recently got to know POE2 (I didn't have the privilege of knowing POE) I have to admit that, even though I love Diablo, POE2 takes the ARPG experience to the next level, its entire gameplay structure is designed to be one step ahead of its predecessor (except for the inventory but that's a detail I'm willing to ignore), its passive tree, skill and support gems and its class structure make it have much greater potential than what has been seen so far in installments of the same genre.
I already experienced early access and I can only wish for the finished product to come out.
PS: Seriously, change the inventory structure 😅
try poe1 once =) is atm better than poe2 BUT poe2 will soon be better...
Diablo 4 and you don’t even get to fight Diablo.
Massive diablo 1 and 2 fan, are you fn serious?! That franchise has been a joke since 3 😂
That's what you did in the previous Diablo games
In Path of Exile you don't even fight path
Its definitely an experience to learn 😂😂
I will never forget my first div drop 😊
How long into the game were you when it dropped
@philipandrews9211 on my 1st character I never got one and I quit warrior on 67 LVL-ish
Then I drop div on Monk on LVL 60 in act 3 cruel on the first map (before ziggurat) from a mini boss (ent one)
I’m lvl 88 and have yet to stumble across one
200 hours in one level 89 and one level 79, No div drop yet lol I've gotten more than a div worth of exalted and drops sure but not the actual drop yet.
Tell us how hard you got. Don't spare any detail
They need to fix the minions getting stuck and jammed together every damn door.
I feel it.
They talked about it in todays interview
Yeah I chose shock monk just to try something different, as I’ve been a Barb main since D4 launch.
At lv 63 now, I can confidently say I’ll never be touching D4 again., though it does have some systems better than poe2
Bro you low level game is not fun after lvl 85+ cuz every death is very punishing. I'm 89 and when I die form shit I couldn't even see or react 2 I'm furious. You lose 10% exp and good map. U will see
@ thanks for the doom and gloom I guess?
Sounds mostly like a skill issue though.
I’ll make my own perception of the difficulty, as I’ve just now reached maps..
Dont listen to the doom and gloom. I have 3 characters all running t15/16 lvls 85-87-89. Death makes you play smarter. It forces you to get better at the game. And with the incoming fixs. Deaths will be fewer. This game is in a pre bata version. They are working out the kinks.
@@RebelOfTheNorm242 crazy, I had the exact OPPOSITE reaction.. after 150hrs in PoE2, went back to D4 and it literally made me appreciate D4 soooo much more! PoE2 is a shell of a game and missing so many QoL features it’s insane the amount of copium people are on saying it’s good. It’s a waste of time and just not fun after hitting endgame with 1 character. All the classes feel the same with identical passive tree and gems.. repeating Act 1-3 over and over and over again is the most boring thing ever.. why can’t we skip campaign?? Because endgame is horrible and there’s nothing else to do except Maps. I might try it again in 2+ years after they release a decent game but this EA excuse to make $$$ was dogwater
@@Łesiek1989 Skill issue
Having lots of fun with poe2 it has a solid start, melee has some issues that needs to be addressed and the endgame doesn't feel too fleshed out but it's early access and I'm looking forward to the game getting better
Bro the endgame is better Than all diablos combined hahahaha
@@Carnivore9999 agreed i just kinda wish they had a cow lvl lol
@@nameless1692go Play diablo then lol
Herę you put juiced wayston and have ubertristram evrytime you want
Theres no real bad issue with melee, you are meant to combine maces with other melee weapons!
Mace/axes
Mace/swords
Mace/flails
And maybe Mace/daggers
They are not in the game yet, we cant combine yet so it gives the perception that melee has issues!!
@@jadeapiata6545 being pushed by beetles during your mace skills feels awful. I feel as if certain momentum attacks should allow you to push small enemies and also the trial of the sekhemas is built around not getting hit which sucks when you build your character to be a tank
Why does that fit that so perfectly.😅😅
Meanwhile I am sitting here and chillin with Grim Dawn watchin Diablo 4 players vs poe 2 players.
Niiice, the 5 of you are gonna have a lot to talk about
@@Artcriaslmao
Amen brother. I'm idle in devil's crossing as I write this.
what is grim dawn?
I really love grim dawn. But I just can't play it anymore on my pc cuz it's a pixelmush on my big screen. I really hope they will deliver some graph upgrade with the DLC
poe2 got alot of stuff they have to fix before they let the full game come out
Oh really 😱😱🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is what happens when Ego and Money get in the way of a good game. But now it's history and no amount of damage control can fix😂😂😂
Just divorced, i should feel sad but i know i can now buy a pc again after 5 years and welcome real life with open arms 😊
Poe2 is so good that it made me appreciate d4 more. The tetris, the backtracking, the 100$ you need to spend for stash tabs, the complex endgame where you can choose between clearing a map or clearing a map, or if you feel lucky you can clear a map, the complex crafting system where you can gamble or gamble or target gamble untill you get the item you want from the action house, and most but not least the drop, nothing feels better than geeting drops for every class except yours. Truly a masterpiece of shit.
It's like Playing basketball after mindswaping with LeBron James for 3 months letting him level up my body.
Me a D2 player. And I like the game.
@@iKilleas POE1 is what D2 players wanted D3 to be.
I find its poe1 vets complaining and old D2 vets who r loving it. Anyone who only played D4 is simply clueless.
Lol poe 1players come from diablo 1 and 2
@jaimesuazo560 I dont think so. Maybe some. But many of us ol diablo fans, couldnt deal with the pov of poe1 and or often the community of poe1 being so toxic, so skipped it for other things.
100%...blizzard was a decent company back then. We were loyal...you're not diablo fuck off. Poe 2 brings me back to my diablo 2 days, feels good.
welcome to the real world and next up is the build crushing nerfs
Yeah they announced their next major patch and they literally JUST confirmed no nerfs, yet here you are bad, upset and making shit up. Nice.
i play Diablo 4 and i am not running from no poe2..lol it's only the beta
D4 best arpg
Real shit
Hahaha 4got bout this one. Works perfectly
I like D4 better and their direction the game is going. POE2 feels like D4 season 0
@@heatmizer2336 agreed! PoE2 wastes players time in so many ways
Just terrible take when gameplay is astronomically better but to each their own
@@NickRigas-rd3zv nothing better about it and the numbers are dwindling
Shia was so much better than these movies. Such a shame
Yesterday when Mark told DM that the designers designed poe2 without changeable ascendancies and they can't go against designers. Sounds just like something Blizzard would say. GGG is just as greedy as Blizzard. But as least Blizzard ain't got Ten Cent CCP.
@@bob-dm1mo facts
In what term they are greedy because if this? All this means if you want, you need to make another char. Is it cost you more money or something?
The game will be completely free once on full launch. This sounds anything but greedy to me.
@@KrigHammar their greed lies in many other things.. I see their design with inventory and bag space and loot system forcing people to buy premium stash tabs as greedy, because default is horrible!! Their MTX shop is insane prices and also shows their greed. They make a lot of design choices based on making $$$ not the best game experience possible
@mjackels1377 bro, stash tab is literally the only thing you need for endgame. I bought stash tab around 6 or 7 years ago for 12 dollar and I was able to transfer it from poe1 to poe2. How many other games have you seen where you were able to transfer your transmog, mtx to the next game?
Holy moly. Any other skin is just optional, you don't have to buy it. If you do, is your choice, but nut their.
GGG is the least greedy company in the last 15 years. Plz don't spread any misinformation. You can just say you don't like the game, but lying it's another topic.
@@mjackels1377not that I’m in support of microtransactions in games, but an extra loot tab is $3…its really not that crazy if you get enough enjoyment out of a free game to use up all your free stash tabs
Love poe2. Its ruining my life 😂
perfect
The real deal? No way! POE2 is 80% a Diablo game! Stop that nonsense. 👎😂
poe2 stole everything from Diablo franchise and made advancements on it but now have the audacity to say they are better..lol
diablo isnt the first ARPG, it doesnt own dungeon crawlers, it failed to advance its own franchise for year sand now someone else is doing it vastly better. Is what it is. Hate more, doesnt matter, poe2 in EA better than d4 all this time after launch
@NickRigas-rd3zv i don't think so with all the bugs, the player movement is slow and it doesn't have enough bag space and that is just the start of what me and some others have seen.
@NickRigas-rd3zv there is no hate brother you didn't make game right so feel better soon
Bag space trash.. inventory management trash.. itemization trash.. build variety trash.. infinite dodge roll easy mechanics.. early game unfinished.. endgame unfinished.. maps trash.. passive skill tree being the same exact copy across all classes trash.. exact same skills and support gems across all classes trash.. controller optimization trash.. console version trash.. nerfs to most fun builds trash.. combat and movement speed slow af trash.. chasing resistance gear and magic find gear trash.. MTX prices trash.. paying for QoL trash.. need I go on?
1. Its ea
2. D4 is absolut trash, Blizzards is trash, mobs get stronger with you absolut worst decision ever
You probably know absolutely nothing about POE2, all your points are trash and simple minded😂
nah don't go on the poe2 players will start to cry
@@derrickharney6750 Nah yall are just incredibly wrong and bad at game, we do not care brother
@@Chrisistic well relaese D4 had problems but by season 4 it was a masterpiece of sustems and balance. you have trash outdated takes
Spamming the same move into trash mobs is the real deal? wtf is gaming anymore
Lmfao this has to be bait
So many cry baby's on poe2
Haha so good!
I loved the story of d4 .. it was epic but...after... meh
Poe2 is better then d4 but way worse then poe1
I like how this meme is aimed at players who like D4 who complain about how hard PoE 2 is and how “bad the endgame system” is when their opinion is completely a dog take when they defend a game with no endgame system or item chase system for finding gear, complain it has no loot when they don’t understand the looting system or complain that it exists.
And yet here they are, complaining. No one is making you stay here, if you wanna go play D4 go ahead, no one’s stopping you, but you aren’t going to convince other people to join you in that dead game.
Its so real, look no further than the poe official forums for those poe 2 baby accounts from d4 crying abt the diffIculty and yet they cant stop playing it.
actually if you look at the numbers poe2 is dwindling to critical levels and might not make it. D4 season 4 was better than anything poe2 can ever be. ign gave it 8 and players are leaving this mid game with generic derivative gameplay
Great bosses! D4 is 🎂 compared
The game is not fucking perfect, and deserves to be critisized. The end game is a fucking mess.
It's still being beta tested. It's not finished and still better than D4.
@@JakeSomnia agreed
The longer I play Poe2, the more I prefer Diablo 4, honestly
Ahahah exactly
True 😂
Sure😂😂😂
@@Chrisistic what can I say, Poe2 endgame just bores me to death 🤷🏽♂️
@@i-deni-i5138 dude thats hillarious. If the endgame of Poe2 is boring to you, then the diablo 4 endgame should bore you completely to death😂
Lol so accurate
Wasted $70 on Diablo 4 jus to access a better game for free later on down 😂😂😂
well by season 4 it was a masterpiece, your loss, spoiler its not Ctually better that was propaganda
Actually d4 has more stuff in the endgame than this thrown together system wide crashing low fps piece of junk
There’s nothing in the “endgame” that’s not doable before max level besides farming Uber bosses for hours on end lmao. Oh wow a raid that takes 30 mins, much endgame, much chase
What end game ? Plz explain ... PoE2 dont even have half his shit release yet 😂🤣
@cestor Endgame? Making currency from farming items to sell. Finding boss pinnacle invites, beating all the pinnacle bosses all the way to tier 4, finding all the chase items from the pinnacle bosses. Finding a mirror. Making your character crazy good? Beating the 4th Ascendancy bosses. Playing multiple fun builds. There’s plenty to do and this is a beta EA. You’re comparing Diablo 4 which has had 1.5 years of development and still doesn’t compete with this. I’m also not going to argue with someone who’s infallible and doesn’t know enough about PoE 2 to know what they don’t know about the point of the endgame.
@@Nick-tl7ts agreed
cap
rip d4
numbers say otherwise. rip poe2
D4 bad
Ive never seen a game gain so much popularity only to be dead 2 weeks later. Poe2 is just a boring grind and the loot is terrible. Anyone that says otherwise hasnt played endgame. 3/10. D4 and poe2 are bad in their own ways.
It's still #5 on the steam charts, and that doesn't include people using ggg launcher. You're either baiting or you're delusional, buddy.
Lol leagues haven't even started and half of the weps/classes aren't even released yet. Bold statement
Good bait bro.
dawg the game is going to double its classes, skill gems, and gameplay acts when it releases into 1.0 … i have a mercenary at endgame and the grind is fun. sounds like you might have picked a bad build?
@@isaacashton5772that’s what I was gonna say. I mean his comment is obvious bait, but part of the problem of why people think D4 is better than PoE 2 is because D4 is created for mobile gamers that aren’t necessarily good at aRPGs, it’s easier to enjoy a game when everything is handed to you to make your character better after playing for 20 hours and you don’t actually have to think about anything. Loot is bad? Maybe use maps with rarity on the right map nodes with Breach. Can’t sustain your waystones? Do your highest waystones on boss nodes. Build isn’t working? Maybe you gotta figure out why and not all skill gems are created equally. Lmao idk man, the game poses a challenge and all the people who like D4 don’t know what a challenge is, all they know is Tomb Lord
D4 is ftp now hahah imagine paying for that thing 😅
In single player, it's unplayable. I went back to Diablo. Seriously. Diablo doesn't force you to be online with everyone which slows down the game. POE is very choppy and lags beyond belief. In the middle of boss fights, it says pause. Pause. Pause. Pause. No thanks.
I’ve never run into this issue. This would frustrate me as well.
@@Smokinglayupsyeah never had this issue I’m assuming he’s playing on a toaster for a pc or something
D4 kids crying atound is getting out of hand😂
Sounds like network problem (bad internet connection)
Diablo is also always online.
My computer sucks as well and I can confirm that that makes the game bad
Yeah I chose shock monk just to try something different, as I’ve been a Barb main since D4 launch.
At lv 63 now, I can confidently say I’ll never be touching D4 again., though it does have some systems better than poe2
D4 bad