C0 Arlecchino Pyro vs Atk% Goblet Comparison, Which one Better?

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  • this video show comparison, which goblet better for C0 Arlecchino, Pyro goblet vs Atk% goblet
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  • @khwezimajoro
    @khwezimajoro Месяц назад +27

    I think removing bennet would have been more interesting because it's kinda the main reason people are considering atk gob, it's so they don't use Benny and circle impact

  • @Wuan3127
    @Wuan3127 Месяц назад +60

    go ATK goblet if u use Zhongli because there's no atk buffer. But if u use Bennett then go for Pyro because benny buff ur atk.

    • @Ikky-ih3dy
      @Ikky-ih3dy Месяц назад +4

      I used both

    • @narcolius
      @narcolius Месяц назад +18

      ​@@Ikky-ih3dy your Def Goblet 🍷 is the way to go then.

    • @shin01859
      @shin01859 Месяц назад

      Bro I already have 200 crit DMG 70+ crit rate 2345 attack but I'm struggling with the em so should I go for em goblet?

    • @somebody-gj6ue
      @somebody-gj6ue Месяц назад

      ​​@@shin01859don't, only go EM on sands and only if you play vaporize

    • @jongragi
      @jongragi Месяц назад +1

      @@shin01859 she doesnt need em tho?

  • @zeromailss
    @zeromailss Месяц назад +6

    It really depend on your artifact, weapon and team. Generally with Bennett you always want Pyro goblet but without Bennett the difference is very close (her BIS artifact and weapon give shit ton of dmg bonus as well making the difference smaller)

  • @Ancient_00
    @Ancient_00 24 дня назад

    Needed that video, thank you!

  • @kcasirh
    @kcasirh 26 дней назад

    Very Nice! I was thinking about it. Ty!

  • @castrostrife
    @castrostrife Месяц назад +3

    thank you, I was doubtful bc I have a goblet of atk% with 30% of crt dmg sub stat but I wasn't sure at all to use it. Now I do.

  • @SaberKingscrown
    @SaberKingscrown 2 дня назад +3

    Meanwhile me with hp

  • @troyfunches9538
    @troyfunches9538 29 дней назад +1

    Nice content. Thsnks

    • @zinweitv
      @zinweitv  26 дней назад

      Glad you liked it

  • @P.X.R.P.L.E
    @P.X.R.P.L.E Месяц назад +7

    good comparison but on the furina run the pyro dmg goblet go tmore dmg bonus from furinas burst, at 2:15 you can see it says 16.3 incomming healing bonus which came from furinas burst along side with her dmg bonus buff. But at the atk on at 2:47 you can see it says 14.1 incomming healing bonus which means that run got less of the dmg bonus buff becuase the buff for the healing bonus is lower if that makes sense. Thats why i dont use furina for my showcases unless she gives the full dmg bonus. I know its a smaller factor but i just wanted to point it out :D next time you can use food and itll proc furina burst burst for consistansy

    • @zinweitv
      @zinweitv  Месяц назад +5

      Yes, Im aware of that, mainly bcos I didnt start with exactly same hp for all party on both comparison. But since the diff is minimal, I was lazy to redo the recording 😅

    • @P.X.R.P.L.E
      @P.X.R.P.L.E Месяц назад +2

      @@zinweitv lmao I understand I’m a perfectionist sometimes so when I can see I can do more madman I will redo it over and over 😂

    • @malttz9129
      @malttz9129 29 дней назад +1

      But you can see 2:12 Furina's burst reached the next level (bottom saloon member full screen), and as you said 2:47 it was 14.1% heal, but if you see closely : 253 THERE IT IS, same next level reach as Furina's E still take the team HP, reaching the next level, probably same 16% as before, hope it helps with your perfectionism, as i am one perfectionist myself.

    • @malttz9129
      @malttz9129 29 дней назад +1

      @@zinweitv well Furina hit 50% fanfare both tries, so it was a good recording, but i know the harsh feeling

  • @Rayogami
    @Rayogami Месяц назад

    Deathmatch diminshes the value of the ATK% goblet so much tho. Numbers would be a little closer (still pyro DMG better) using weapons with more base attack. That's why Calamity Queller had closer numbers.

  • @seyconrad9757
    @seyconrad9757 Месяц назад +11

    use the samurai npc for damage test. The stat is consistent for the enemy and if you just do solo damage there would be no bias in your test

    • @Akash11898
      @Akash11898 Месяц назад

      You mean masanori?

    • @tsuyuhane4337
      @tsuyuhane4337 20 дней назад

      I agree with this. If anything, it would have been better to do solo and then with team to see how well Arlecchino does alone vs team. Depending on artifacts and such, it would've been a more thorough test. This is more like I can reach certain damage numbers through buffs from team and one interchangeable artifact. Sorry, not trying to be rude or anything, just some criticism.

  • @robinsailo5652
    @robinsailo5652 Месяц назад +1

    Man your furina buff was not 75% at all its 14 something in healing bonus so half that

  • @orfeu_san437
    @orfeu_san437 15 дней назад

    Então atk é superior?

  • @williamalencar9372
    @williamalencar9372 Месяц назад

    Arlechino, Yelan, Benett e Mona… muito dano ✅

  • @stUwUpified
    @stUwUpified Месяц назад

    Depends on the buffs.
    Signature + Furina + Yelan + 4pc Whimsy + no Bennett + Kazuha: ATK Gob could be better
    Otherwise: Pyro Gob
    In general just go Pyro.

  • @LN-Kirito223z
    @LN-Kirito223z 23 дня назад

    Y’all are misunderstanding something,yea sure pyro will let you do 20K more damage but u have to keep in mind, if u don’t use the atk cup and not planning to use zhongli ur elemental and physical resistance won’t reach 20% even with benny atk buff (from her passive) so if u wanna survive without zhongli then use atk goblet, plus atk goblet get wayyyyy better if you use echoes

  • @luisherrera8081
    @luisherrera8081 7 дней назад

    viejo yo saco un daño mas estable y alto por basico usando sobrecargados y no uso ni xinqui oh kazuha oh benito y solo para que pegues 1 oh2 golpes buenos de 10 donde esta la gracia?

  • @ALD7MI2011
    @ALD7MI2011 29 дней назад

    the 2% damage will clear your abyss and gets you 69 stars everywhere you go. even after you C6 her theres nothing left to use your powerful sugar mommy....
    very great game

  • @avinashshete6783
    @avinashshete6783 Месяц назад +2

    I think he should have used mona insted of furina

    • @shaderunner7.0
      @shaderunner7.0 29 дней назад

      Furina damage bonus is 75% at C0, 100% at C1 and lasts a lot longer, Mona Burst is only 60%. If you mean should've bring TToDS, that's a different

  • @vajra8037
    @vajra8037 Месяц назад +1

    what is yelan buff?

    • @zinweitv
      @zinweitv  Месяц назад +1

      Dmg% bonus to active char during burst

  • @WateringWifes
    @WateringWifes Месяц назад +1

    Its just my opinion, use atk goblet if you can't reach 3k atk for better resistance specially if you use white tassel cause the damage gap not that high. If you have 3k atk use pyro goblet instead.

  • @lindacruz9782
    @lindacruz9782 6 дней назад +1

    What the fuck is that arti subs bro how much did you grind

    • @zinweitv
      @zinweitv  6 дней назад

      Thousand of resins, cant count anymore 🤣

  • @ferless_6495
    @ferless_6495 День назад +1

    Bro is furina kazuha benny team good for abyss

    • @zinweitv
      @zinweitv  День назад

      Yes, they are good

  • @zamaneditor123s
    @zamaneditor123s 29 дней назад +1

    Pyro damage is best 90k damage ❤❤❤

  • @redstone_convoy
    @redstone_convoy Месяц назад

    Anyone got any f2p team comps for arlechino

    • @zinweitv
      @zinweitv  Месяц назад +1

      you can try Arle Bennett XQ Sucrose for vape, Arle Bennett Diona Sucrose/Rosaria/Kaeya for Melt

    • @unnecessaryusername784
      @unnecessaryusername784 29 дней назад

      Arlecc-fischl-chevreuse-bennet. Overload team

  • @eduardowormittag2113
    @eduardowormittag2113 18 дней назад

    C2+ Owners, go for ATK - the more you have, better.

  • @omayjohnleviea.8487
    @omayjohnleviea.8487 Месяц назад

    the fact that my c2 arcelino without support buff, already made 112k damage TvT 6-6-6 talent

  • @Levac-th6hl
    @Levac-th6hl Месяц назад

    Тем временем калькуляторы,которые просто существуют:Да,очень полезный видос чудила,странно что нет роликов про то какие дейлики лучше выполнять,тоже ведь крайне полезно будет.

  • @buho0132
    @buho0132 24 дня назад

    I think, atk% is better with new set

  • @ajubal_senpai
    @ajubal_senpai Месяц назад +1

    So weird I’m having better numbers and time with Atk goblet. Maybe it’s because of her weapon I don’t know…

    • @KR_3301
      @KR_3301 Месяц назад

      which weapon

    • @ajubal_senpai
      @ajubal_senpai Месяц назад

      @@KR_3301 her sig weapon

    • @KR_3301
      @KR_3301 29 дней назад

      @@ajubal_senpai which team r u running arle in

  • @alexfui8902
    @alexfui8902 Месяц назад

    If sands em and goblet attack can ?

    • @zinweitv
      @zinweitv  Месяц назад

      Can, works for vape or melt team

  • @ViniciusFigueiredo19
    @ViniciusFigueiredo19 Месяц назад +1

    Tldr: Use the optimizer

  • @avery7939
    @avery7939 Месяц назад

    So both do great damage, just use the one you got

  • @d-godfather
    @d-godfather Месяц назад +1

    In a vape team. Sucrose with TTDS will be better than kazuha

  • @damianostefani3383
    @damianostefani3383 Месяц назад +1

    Still arguing about this bs? The best is +200% crit dmg and+70% crit rate.
    All the rest doesn't matter

  • @2wst11
    @2wst11 Месяц назад +5

    This comparison is kinda ekk. You used different teams and we didn't really understood which goblet is better. You only showcased which team is better. Go play the cups solo without team mates and show us which goblet is better.

    • @zinweitv
      @zinweitv  Месяц назад +7

      Every team have pyro and atk goblet version as comparison, so Im not really follow what you meant?

    • @user-hd3cv9vi3q
      @user-hd3cv9vi3q Месяц назад +5

      what's the meaning of solo dmg when you want to optimize her dmg? Except you actually bring her to the abyss for solo clear. :^) the only way to find out which one is better is calculating which stat you need more.

    • @kukitali
      @kukitali Месяц назад +1

      also in some runs he started with more bol so obviously more damage too

    • @2wst11
      @2wst11 Месяц назад

      @@user-hd3cv9vi3q understanding the solo damage gives the best impression on how the goblet works compared to other stats. Both pyro damage and attck% is linear scaling damage that does not need reaction to quantify the value it provides.

    • @user-hd3cv9vi3q
      @user-hd3cv9vi3q Месяц назад +1

      @@2wst11 all stats have saturation, your team gonna buff you tons of stats so you need to know which stat you need more to optimize it :L Do you know about saturation? If not i can explain it to you. :>