One of the most metal moments in classical music

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  • Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
  • The penultimate movement of Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, "The hut of Baba Yaga", rightfully deserves a spot on the top metal moments in classical music. And not just because of its punchy onslaught of rhythmic motifs, the heavy and powerful bass lines or its general unapologetic savagery. The various harmonic innovations present in the movement are quite similar to those employed in the harmonic structures of metal: Phrygian progressions emphasising the use of bII, obstinate pedal points and a predilection for the tritone interval. Brief, abrupt and detached rhythmic cells are joined into rhythmic phrases with a distinctive, often jerky texture and rhythmic patterns are often repeated.
    A quick search on the extramusical inspiration of this piece, Baba Yaga, and we begin to understand the wickedness that Mussorgsky was going for. A reference to the hut on chicken legs is made at 00:17 with acciaccaturas that recall a previous movement "Ballet of Unhatched Chicks". Ravel's orchestration leaves absolutely nothing to be desired with the strings taking the foreground here, while percussionists have a ball with their extended use that recalls even Stravinsky's Rite of Spring.
    Recording (Dudamel): • Moussorgski, Tableaux ...

Комментарии • 102

  • @mperstl13
    @mperstl13 21 день назад +309

    if mussorgsky read "most metal moments", he would pause for a moment, think of steel mills and industry, and be utterly confused.

    • @erliLila
      @erliLila 21 день назад +12

      Not that much. Futurism became a thing a couple of years later

    • @popmushee
      @popmushee 21 день назад +22

      And then he would say "no, I get it"

    • @dawnexplain3128
      @dawnexplain3128 19 дней назад +5

      It kinda sounds like what I imagine a steel mill would sound like tbh

    • @listerofsmeg884
      @listerofsmeg884 3 дня назад +1

      If I had a time machine I'd love to bring composers from the past to the modern world and see what they think of contemporary music.
      Always think of that scene from Bill and Ted where Beethoven gets arrested after letting rip on a load of electronic keyboards 😅

  • @skylarlimex
    @skylarlimex  22 дня назад +117

    Ravel's orchestration of Mussorgsky is an interesting subject and it's always interesting to find out if someone prefers the original piano piece, Ravel's orchestration or even Ashkenazy's which some say sounds more Russian. Sviatoslav Richter expresses his own view in one of his notebooks:
    "I disapprove of transcriptions, unless they are by the composer; the original always strikes me as better. Much as I love Ravel’s music, I find his orchestral transcription of Mussorgsky’s Pictures at an Exhibition an abomination, a terrible, decorative travesty of the most profound masterpiece of Russian piano music. There was a time, unfortunately not entirely past, when pianists - and audiences - were fond of this sort of attack on art."

    • @chesterchub
      @chesterchub 22 дня назад +15

      Personally, I like the orchestration quite well. It sounds much grander and fitting for this piece.

    • @ack7956
      @ack7956 21 день назад +9

      I honestly agree with Richter in a way, although not quite so dogmatically. Ravel's orchestration only really resonates for me with the Great Gate of Kiev, but even then only in sections of it. It's a great attempt at transcribing the piece, but it still doesn't quite capture the essence the original has.

    • @KarlRKaiser
      @KarlRKaiser 20 дней назад +5

      How many people would know PAE without Ravel's orchestration?
      I think it's great when artists collaborate across the generations, even the centuries. Consider Vaughan Williams' "Songs of Travel", setting the poetry of Robert Louis Stevenson to music, or Robert Quilter setting Shakespeare's sonnets to music.

    • @marknieuweboer8099
      @marknieuweboer8099 19 дней назад +1

      Richter is harsh, but after I heard Mussorgsky's original 40 years ago I never went back to Ravel. Especially the orchestration of this fragment (Baba Yaga) is inferior.

    • @NebulonRanger
      @NebulonRanger 15 дней назад +1

      ​@@marknieuweboer8099Honestly, to each their own. The orchestration captures a different vibe when compared to the original piano piece, and that's okay. Different colors for different artists; both have merit.

  • @karolzurek3407
    @karolzurek3407 21 день назад +51

    As much as i love ravel's orchestration, you gotta give it to mussorgsky, the original piece sounds really „orchestral” by itself, especially promenades and the great gate of kiev, i've always liked to think of pictures at an exhibition as a piano prototype of what was supposed to be an orchestral piece, because let's face it, it really sounds as though it was written for orchestra, gotta give it to the man

    • @skylarlimex
      @skylarlimex  21 день назад +15

      @@karolzurek3407 it's funny because Mussorgsky wasn't very confident of his orchestration abilities but it's clear that he had very orchestral sonorities in mind when he wrote for piano and it shows

    • @karolzurek3407
      @karolzurek3407 21 день назад +7

      ​@@skylarlimex exactly what i mean, even in the first promenade he uses this very soft counterpoint that reminds me of piano transcriptions of orchestra pieces, and i really love night on the bald mountain, mussorgsky for me overally is the perfect bridge between classical form and the harmony of more modern composers, gotta be one of my favorites of all time
      Edit: we can see that kind of „orchestral” counterpoint even here in the hut of baba yaga

  • @joustwave6541
    @joustwave6541 22 дня назад +45

    Emerson Lake & Palmer did it pretty well too. 😁

    • @user-wr6ip7fk7f
      @user-wr6ip7fk7f 22 дня назад +1

      Yes, for me it is the best version

    • @skylarlimex
      @skylarlimex  22 дня назад +3

      @@joustwave6541 not familiar, I'll check it out!

    • @ivyssauro123
      @ivyssauro123 22 дня назад +2

      They literally made it into hard rock, it's great fun

    • @giuseppeagresta1425
      @giuseppeagresta1425 3 дня назад +1

      ELP works are so good
      I think that my favorite so far is Tarkus tho

  • @averageclassicalmusicenjoyer
    @averageclassicalmusicenjoyer 21 день назад +9

    Actually one of my favourite versions of this piece is Yamashita’s transcription for Guitar, it’s really incredible

    • @skylarlimex
      @skylarlimex  21 день назад +3

      @@averageclassicalmusicenjoyer incredibly difficult too I imagine!

  • @ivyssauro123
    @ivyssauro123 22 дня назад +15

    It's so good, one of the first classical pieces I fell in love with

  • @LeeGee
    @LeeGee 21 день назад +6

    These are some of the best music videos on the 'net. Thank you!

  • @saratei99
    @saratei99 21 день назад +2

    Ravel's orchestration skills are straight up stunning

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 20 дней назад +5

    yay, recognized it from the thumbnail

    • @skylarlimex
      @skylarlimex  20 дней назад +1

      Quite an arresting opening

    • @skylarlimex
      @skylarlimex  20 дней назад +1

      Quite an arresting opening

  • @KarlRKaiser
    @KarlRKaiser 21 день назад +7

    Practicing this on the piano was the only time in 20 years that my neighbors banged on the wall.

    • @skylarlimex
      @skylarlimex  21 день назад

      😆

    • @skylarlimex
      @skylarlimex  21 день назад

      They were just jamming along perhaps

    • @KarlRKaiser
      @KarlRKaiser 20 дней назад

      @@skylarlimex Not after I practiced it for forty minutes! 😁

  • @yoongoboongo231
    @yoongoboongo231 3 дня назад

    the entire pictures at an exhibition is probably my favorite piece of all time, its just so good

  • @colenbacher
    @colenbacher День назад

    I love Pictures at an Exhibition!!!

  • @JukeboxOddities
    @JukeboxOddities 22 дня назад +16

    Ahhh yes, the baba yaga portrait. It's actually metal if you think about it.
    A story about walking hut, that lures kids inside to eat them.
    That passes for a fun kids story in Russia.
    Does not get any more metal.

    • @skylarlimex
      @skylarlimex  22 дня назад +1

      Exactly

    • @sage_silvestris
      @sage_silvestris 20 дней назад +2

      Yay I love Russian horror stories aka fairytales. 😊 My favourite is Vasilissa, who's abused by her stepmother and two stepsisters and goes to find employment at a wizard. Returns with a skull lantern on a stick and the skull's gaze incinerates her stepmother and stepsisters.
      Another one is based on a historical person: Princess Olga, whose husband was killed and the occupying tribe proposed to her. She had the wannabe groom gutted or something?
      Russians aren't the kind of folks you wanna mess with 😅.

  • @AlwaysHopeful87
    @AlwaysHopeful87 21 день назад +1

    Thank you. Fun.

  • @marknieuweboer8099
    @marknieuweboer8099 19 дней назад +2

    Mussorgsky's original piano score is even more metal.

  • @listerofsmeg884
    @listerofsmeg884 3 дня назад

    Modest even looked like a metalhead in his later, sadly worse for alcohol, years.
    Love this piece, has a real videogame feel to it too. Especially like how it sagues into The Great Gates without pause

  • @akechijubeimitsuhide
    @akechijubeimitsuhide 21 день назад +1

    There is also The Field Marshal which has a pretty damn metal feel to it (especially with Shostakovich's orchestration and a baritone or bass singing it).

  • @JediMaestr0
    @JediMaestr0 15 дней назад

    I played the original piano version of this (and The Great Gate of Kiev) for my junior recital, and I especially loved this one because it felt right out of a John Williams action cue.

    • @skylarlimex
      @skylarlimex  15 дней назад +1

      What a great achievement! Many congrats

  • @nachtwandeling1237
    @nachtwandeling1237 16 дней назад +1

    0:06 This part is used in Samaels 'Baphomets throne'

    • @Hastenforthedawm
      @Hastenforthedawm 13 дней назад

      Cheers, I'm the only other one who pointed that out.
      Samael is the best

  • @LeavesDecaying
    @LeavesDecaying 7 дней назад

    Want to hear this more metal? Mekong Delta's cover of "The Hut of Baba Yaga" should do it. They are a progressive thrash metal band. They have a version on their self-titled and another recorded about 9 years later on their album called "Pictures at an Exhibition."

  • @trexx5582
    @trexx5582 7 дней назад

    Ravel is truly genius in orchestration

  • @user-ph6yh4hs9z
    @user-ph6yh4hs9z 21 день назад

    Thank you. Agree, high drama !

  • @rafaturek1370
    @rafaturek1370 21 день назад +1

    Oh god... opening has the same motif as in Samael- Baphomet's Throne. Haven't heard that song in like 15 years and yet it instantly comes to mind. So yeah... that's metal as fuck

  • @SaintDeus
    @SaintDeus 19 дней назад

    I agree

  • @shitsumeilegumovitch
    @shitsumeilegumovitch День назад

    Great analysis. Somehow I never made the connection with "Ballet of the Unhatched Chicks", maybe because I heard this movement (many times) long before I listened to the rest of the work, but it's undeniable. Hut on chicken legs refers back to the unhatched chicks. Genius. And Ravel noticed, orchestrating it the same way in both movements. For people grousing about this being orchestrated: (1) Orchestration was inevitable (there are many different orchestrations of this) and Ravel did it better than anyone; (2) But if you want to get mad on Mussorgsky's behalf, the Rimsky-Korsakov bastardisation of Bald Mountain is a more appropriate target. Talk about "correcting irregularities" - it's much more true of Bald Mountain.

  • @Hastenforthedawm
    @Hastenforthedawm 13 дней назад

    Sampled in Samael's "Baphomets Throne"

  • @NebulonRanger
    @NebulonRanger 20 дней назад +1

    0:06-0:22 is extremely 2010s Tuomas Holopainen, so yes this is quite metal indeed

    • @skylarlimex
      @skylarlimex  20 дней назад

      Any pieces in particular?

    • @NebulonRanger
      @NebulonRanger 20 дней назад

      ​@@skylarlimexTuomas is best known as the mastermind behind, well, Nightwish.
      One track that immediately springs to to mind is Noise, another is Ghost River. Storytime is also a good shout here.

  • @Saudemental69
    @Saudemental69 21 день назад

    Jaws and Psycho inspiration

  • @KarlRKaiser
    @KarlRKaiser 21 день назад

    Is there a better evocation of maniacal evil in music?

  • @GiulianoValentinSanchez
    @GiulianoValentinSanchez 21 день назад

    que buen analisis chee...

    • @skylarlimex
      @skylarlimex  21 день назад +1

      @@GiulianoValentinSanchez Y muchos más por venir!

  • @lindildeev5721
    @lindildeev5721 21 день назад +1

    What about Shostakovitch's 8th strings quartett? The TwoSetters know which one I'm talking about.

    • @skylarlimex
      @skylarlimex  21 день назад

      @@lindildeev5721 oh shosta has plenty of metal moments

  • @ivanneiasyt
    @ivanneiasyt 21 день назад

    Proud to hit the 666th like for this video

  • @oceanelf2512
    @oceanelf2512 4 дня назад

    Lol Babayaga from Pictures At An Exhibition.

  • @rexy7399
    @rexy7399 7 дней назад

    Not a bad transcription. But the piano version had more punch and is more like “metal” to me.

  • @franzchubert3808
    @franzchubert3808 22 дня назад +58

    Mussorgski invented metal and Debussy invented jazz

  • @railfanmusicboi
    @railfanmusicboi 5 дней назад

    It would slap if you made a cover of it with Metallica-like electric guitar gains and drums.

  • @joshuasims6575
    @joshuasims6575 22 дня назад +2

    animusic

  • @KarlRKaiser
    @KarlRKaiser 15 дней назад +1

    Why do people presume that MM wrote this for piano because he thought that would be the optimal rendering, rather than having limited time or resources? A dramatic evocative piece like this screams for rich instrumentation, including non-percussion instruments.

  • @dariopa21
    @dariopa21 22 дня назад +9

    original piano version is better

    • @skylarlimex
      @skylarlimex  22 дня назад +4

      @@dariopa21 Fair

    • @snowm6472
      @snowm6472 22 дня назад +3

      This is like the one time i disagree and like the arrangement more

    • @hom2fu
      @hom2fu 16 дней назад

      timbre, piano do not sound good playing low notes

  • @SuperRechercheur
    @SuperRechercheur 19 дней назад +1

    So ein Unsinn!