@@ineedamaxwyn what's funny, I thought the same for the Wagoneer.... But still happy Jeep still uses the 7 bar grille design... They keep their identity... Ford and Lincoln change everything every new model
I think the new design language for Lincoln looks sharp, a little like what Buick has been doing for half a decade but still elegant. I'll be very interested to see the next-generation Navigator.
I myself love giant SUVs. I love the Escalade V the most because of the horsepower. I love the navigator second because they offer a vehicle that is baby blue on the outside and baby blue on the inside. And I love the Wagoneer just cause it’s a behemoth and the electronics are really cool.
You don't need to come to social media. You need to go read a book, stop being a fan of something to convince others its the best. The Lincoln navigator is more advanced than the Cadillac escalade. The Lincoln is also more powerful. The Lincoln is faster, The Lincoln has better seats...... there's a thousand more things i can list were the Lincoln Navigator just completely stomps the Cadillac escalade
I put 18 in wheels on my expedition platinum, which is mechanically very similar to the Nav. The ride quality improved greatly from the OEM 22s. If I had the Nav, I'd lose the 22s and go with 20s or even 18s. It may not look as good, but much more comfortable. Unless you have air suspension, 22 in wheels suck for bumpy roads, IMO.
The GW Obsidian is a much better choice. All the unnecessary chrome trimmings make the C pillar on back look way too busy(lol they even chromed the tail lights). The standard Wagoneer actually looks better extreriolly (especially carbide) if you could option for the light effects. Also, forcing buyers to have to go GW for a simple powerfolding mirrror feature is ridiculous.
Lincoln would corner the market but they just drop the ball on the tech. For me it's a family car. How do you not have any infotainment in the rear? No HDMI? Keeping passengers entertained is important. No rear shades? Just a basic rear view mirror? Can't talk to the 3rd row passengers through the tech. Rear massage is nice my kids want it all but if they have to choose they are taking the tech over massage any day of the week and that will honestly most likely be the deciding factor for our purchase.
My son is 6ft 6inches and he fits great and has plenty of headroom in the back seat. I don’t know what is going on with the one you are testing. I have a 2024 Lincoln Navigator. It has the captain chairs in the back seat.
In any new vehicle the big turn off will always be the maintenance cost, but also y’all are insane to buy this new out of the lot for this vehicles devalue ridiculous fast.
I’d say there are some people that don’t use it at all, I fact we’ve heard from a lot of commenters over the years who say they’d prefer not having one, and Chrysler has historically been one of the few brands that makes it an option rather than a forced feature based on a trim.
Guys the reserve is a step up from base if you want more features you should have did the reveiw with the black label the navigator is bettwr than a crappy mopar all day regardless
19:31 both brands lately have serious quality control issues with multiple recalls, and as much as I love MOPAR, Chrysler is the worse of the two. And I see the Jeep has more gimmicks to break, starting with all those screens and that refrigerator I bet. I’d take my chances with the Lincoln hoping it’ll behave nicely like my Town Car.
What you said about the Cadillac is not correct. With the diesel the Cadillac can only tow up to 8 000 lbs. And while the Cadillac does look sportier, the 0 to 60 times on the Grand Wagoneer is better.
Rumor is the Navigator is getting a redesign for the 2025 model year. If done well it will be the clear choice imo.
It's about time. If it takes it's cues from the Nautilus it should be a welcomed update.
Lincoln looks way better
Looks way too dated in my opinion.
@@ineedamaxwyn what's funny, I thought the same for the Wagoneer.... But still happy Jeep still uses the 7 bar grille design... They keep their identity... Ford and Lincoln change everything every new model
I think the new design language for Lincoln looks sharp, a little like what Buick has been doing for half a decade but still elegant. I'll be very interested to see the next-generation Navigator.
The back looks better on the Lincoln but the front undeniably goes to the jeep
The sides of the jeep look awful with that chrome.
I myself love giant SUVs. I love the Escalade V the most because of the horsepower. I love the navigator second because they offer a vehicle that is baby blue on the outside and baby blue on the inside. And I love the Wagoneer just cause it’s a behemoth and the electronics are really cool.
There's certainly something about driving massive vehicles, I do like the fit of them personally.
You don't need to come to social media. You need to go read a book, stop being a fan of something to convince others its the best.
The Lincoln navigator is more advanced than the Cadillac escalade. The Lincoln is also more powerful. The Lincoln is faster, The Lincoln has better seats...... there's a thousand more things i can list were the Lincoln Navigator just completely stomps the Cadillac escalade
Thank you so much for the good show. And I really want to know what sun glasses you guys had on the video. 😁😁
Thanks! Great question, I picked mine (Nile) up from a boutique up in Gananoque, ON. Unfortunately I'm not sure what kind Victor had.
I put 18 in wheels on my expedition platinum, which is mechanically very similar to the Nav. The ride quality improved greatly from the OEM 22s. If I had the Nav, I'd lose the 22s and go with 20s or even 18s. It may not look as good, but much more comfortable. Unless you have air suspension, 22 in wheels suck for bumpy roads, IMO.
Smaller rims is definitely a trend that needs to come back. The ride on a lot of new vehicles suffer because of these extremely low-profile tires.
When you're launching the Grand Wagoneer you need to brake boost (for longer than you did). It holds boost really well and it just goes. Hauls ass.
Good to know! That inline 6 engine is really solid, was a good move on Chrysler's part to replace the ageing V8s.
The inside of that grand wagoneer looks way more like a hotel on wheels
Feels like one too!
Lincoln
Good choice!
The GW Obsidian is a much better choice. All the unnecessary chrome trimmings make the C pillar on back look way too busy(lol they even chromed the tail lights). The standard Wagoneer actually looks better extreriolly (especially carbide) if you could option for the light effects. Also, forcing buyers to have to go GW for a simple powerfolding mirrror feature is ridiculous.
It's definitely good to have choice!
The Lincoln looks so much better, idk what Jeep was thinking with this design.
Good thing is buyers have some choice. Some are going to prefer the Wagoneer, others the Navigator.
Lincoln would corner the market but they just drop the ball on the tech. For me it's a family car. How do you not have any infotainment in the rear? No HDMI? Keeping passengers entertained is important. No rear shades? Just a basic rear view mirror? Can't talk to the 3rd row passengers through the tech. Rear massage is nice my kids want it all but if they have to choose they are taking the tech over massage any day of the week and that will honestly most likely be the deciding factor for our purchase.
They finally announced the next generation Navigator, but will it really stack up is the question.
This is going to be epic!!! And I'll quote the great philosopher Terrell Owens for this one "Get Ur Popcorn!!" and now it is time for me to enjoy😁😁😁
Hope you enjoyed it, thanks!
My 2024 grand wagoneer has the blind spot cams u haft too turn it on in the controls it comes on in the infotainment screen
Interesting!
If you have the series 3 GRAND wagoneer you should have the Lincoln black label
They don’t offer that here in Canada.
@@PRNTestDrive oh ok no problem
My son is 6ft 6inches and he fits great and has plenty of headroom in the back seat. I don’t know what is going on with the one you are testing. I have a 2024 Lincoln Navigator. It has the captain chairs in the back seat.
Does he recline the seat perhaps? I (Nile) like to sit upright in any vehicle.
The guy testing the back seat is a bigger guys. I'm 6' and sit comfortable in my 21' reserve
Even with low reliability rating of Lincoln it still feels like it's the clear choice.
Neither really score high marks in the reliability department.
the Grand Wagoneer has nicer interior but both nice.. good review guys....
Glad you liked it, thanks for checking it out!
grand Wagoneer
Good choice!
In any new vehicle the big turn off will always be the maintenance cost, but also y’all are insane to buy this new out of the lot for this vehicles devalue ridiculous fast.
Most do unfortunately. But maintenance costs will be high even if you buy something like this in the used market.
I’m speculating here, but I feel like 90% of people don’t use their sunroofs.
I’d say there are some people that don’t use it at all, I fact we’ve heard from a lot of commenters over the years who say they’d prefer not having one, and Chrysler has historically been one of the few brands that makes it an option rather than a forced feature based on a trim.
Guys the reserve is a step up from base if you want more features you should have did the reveiw with the black label the navigator is bettwr than a crappy mopar all day regardless
Unfortunately Lincoln doesn't offer the Black Label trims here in Canada.
Navigator looks way better. It looks far more contemporary. The Jeep looks like it's for senior citizens.
Fair enough!
19:31 both brands lately have serious quality control issues with multiple recalls, and as much as I love MOPAR, Chrysler is the worse of the two. And I see the Jeep has more gimmicks to break, starting with all those screens and that refrigerator I bet. I’d take my chances with the Lincoln hoping it’ll behave nicely like my Town Car.
Can't beat the Town Car, that's the real winner here.
Navi %100
Good choice!
What you said about the Cadillac is not correct. With the diesel the Cadillac can only tow up to 8 000 lbs. And while the Cadillac does look sportier, the 0 to 60 times on the Grand Wagoneer is better.
Fair enough!
Thank you 🙏 great 👍 SUV 🚙 great 👍 reaction 👏👏👏do they come with heavy duty wheels 🛞🚙👍👋☮️
Both were wide wheel sets, 22" for both I believe.
The asian guy is a typical youngster who nitpicks about stuff that i don't find that important. I'll take the Lincoln.
Victor has a name. He was introduced at the start if you cared to humanize him.
Man the jeep is ugly, jeep is cheap, go Lincoln
We're hoping for a refreshed Navigator soon, while it's still handsome it has aged quite a bit since it first launched.