The name came from ancient Chinese myth, Zhuque is one of the four sacred beasts (actually are gods). They are the symbols that ancient Chinese used in astrology and astronomy. Thought these are fun to know.
A brilliant video, many thanks. Congratulations to the Chinese for such a great achievement in building a methane-LOX liquid fuel rocket - outstanding!
The era and a generation of MethLox aerospace has arrived. This a significant milestone and achievement for Landspace to earn the honour of leading the way. Great coverage in the concise video here. One observation with the Zhuque-2 launch is the red graphics on the booster were clearly visible (0:09) on launch, unlike other methlox boosters that are obscured by white frost when fuelled (Relativity Terrain-1, SpaceX Starship, or ULA Vulcan Centaur). Not attempting to read anything in to this, just an observation.
Great video and congratulations to Landspace, though every time I read that name my brain registers it as "landscape"... I think I spend too much time doing housework... LOL
The autocorrection of many smartphones also have the same issue: you type Landspace and it suddenly turns to Landscape 😂 The same thing also happens when you do a Google search with "Landspace".
It's always an informative and insightful analysis accompanied with unbiased review, this is the few very quality channel that focus on coverage the Chinese aeronautics and space development with much details, appreciate and thankyou so much to Jean and your team hard and excellent work and look forward for more of this to come。
@DongfangHour 01:25 You have mismatched Tianlong-2 Y1 height (shortened due to demo flight) to a figure of the normal configured Tianlong-2 block 2 here, and as a consequence, the diameter of Tianlong-2 seems disproportional in this figure
Great video, subscribed. As Jenifer wrote, if Chinese space, then the best source is you. I'm surprised that your channel has only this much subscriber. Let's see, what I can do about it. 🙂
That rocket has payload of 6T to LEO, this is no joke from a commercial company and they only been around for a few years. I think in a decade they can have reusable rocket putting 50T to LEO.
DfH Landscape is also planning a zhuque 4 rocket that will be like starship . Fully reusable super heavy lift 10m diameter rocket to start at the end of the decade I believe .
It’s a great technical achievement for the ambitious private company. I hope this helps LandSpace to achieve a commercial success. Which is not guaranteed, I suppose. I’m not even talking about scaling up the productions and operations, a lot of Chinese companies had mastered it before. The real question is if government and quasi-government organizations will provide them payloads to launch (i.e. majority of all payloads in China). Traditional contractors like CASC won’t go gentle into that good night, they may offer pretty good discounts and have a ton of options for lobbying. You probably need a some sort of political approval to receive a government contracts in a country like China. I’m not convinced that LandSpace currently has one.
every private vehicle provider in every space power needs government approval, its not exclusive to china, space x survived because nasa contracts. theres no such thing as lobbying in china since the chinese government operates in such a unique way. the contracts available will be leased out in auctions, if you beat casa rockets in cost and efficiency, the money is yours. its a common misconception that the cpc government works the same way as the soviets (if they do they will be long gone), in fact, they are not even socialists government to begin with.
The Zhuque-2 uses 4x TQ-12 engines on the first stage. They're a gas generator cycle methalox engine, a more simple architecture compared to the Raptor's FFSC approach. Thrust levels are also very different: the TQ-12 is at ~80 tons, the Raptor engine is more around ~250 tons.
Reusability is all about software, isn't it? I seen other Chinese companies had already successful tested rockets lift off and landing...Landscape should collaborate with them.
It's not just software, there's also a lot of propulsion tech (engines that can re-ignite and throttle down to 50% thrust), mechanical engineering (landing legs, control surfaces), testing, ...
@@DongfangHour They should implement artificial intelligence like what they done with driverless car...i think it's the same idea. Yes, once you master the propulsion tech...then everything is control by the software and should be done automatically through AI. In the future, it'll be molecular engine where AI know exactly how to land a rocket without human intervention.
It's a combination of effort, but primary factor is increase dry mass ratio as much as possible.. The reason Falcon 9 is so successful as reusable launch vehicle is because its high dry mass ratio thanks to its Merlin engine and new aluminium alloy, the higher the dry mass ratio, the more fuel it can carry for landing and its effect on upper stage is less during design phase. Software won't do it alone, since if rocket being reused has low dry mass, after you load it with landing fuel, it won't have enough delta V to send upper stage. If you increase the total fuel it carries to compensate for delta V, you will end up with a catch 22 and exponentially growing fuel requirement. Also, the same alloy that granted Falcon 9's high dry mass ratio is the same reason that it can't be reused more than 20 times (unless SpaceX does some magic), since its strength after each duty cycle falls rapidly, unlikely stainless steel, and it will suffer structural failure if same first stage is reused too much.
There only a few paying customer but so many rocket company..... u also need to consider the image of ur country to the rest of the world if ur aiming global market.... with their country relationship I wonder how many customer they can get? And with so many competitor within their country with so few willing to use their platform beside their country and those who oppose uncle sam how will they get customer? Majority of them will get bankwup....
You westerners live in a bubble. Only western governments who now have this sudden urge to "derisk" from China. The rest of the world doesn't have that problem. And I mean the REAL rest of the world, not the puny minority 15% of the world's population who live in the west but always think that: 1. they represent the whole world; 2. the majority 85% have the same opinion as theirs about everything at all times. That's just simply delusional. Not only that, the value of goods imported from China by all western countries (including the US) keeps increasing despite the nonstop anti-China war rhetoric you hear from Washington. Western politicans can say all they want and gullible nobodies like you are fooled into thinking that every country also wants to cut ties with China. But trade data show that businesses all over the world desperately needs everincreasing supply of Chinese products. I have no doubt in my mind that private Chinese rocket companies have no problem at all finding clients all over the world.
You are so brainwashed. Do you know that less than 40 countries support USA and over 150 countries support China? When your Western Media says "The World" it only mean the "Western World, and a couple of Asian ones that consider themselves " Western". There are 193 countries in the World, not 40...
Your assumption is SpaceX has advanced technology that China wants. Your Wrong assumption is derived from American exceptionalism mentality - a common disease in USA. When technology ain’t worth the patent , it’s free. Why should Chinese rocket scientists use inferior SpaceX technology when today’s Chinese rocketry is better.
By the way, useful tip on pronounciation: Zhuque is pronounced "Jew Chew-eh". I often hear "Zoo Kay", which is incorrect 😉
That’s OK, my name usually gets pronounced something like “摔死了”😂
The name came from ancient Chinese myth, Zhuque is one of the four sacred beasts (actually are gods). They are the symbols that ancient Chinese used in astrology and astronomy. Thought these are fun to know.
@@kk66 wasn't there another Chinese private launch vehicle named after dragon? Now we need Tiger and Turtle series to complete the collection 😜
Jew Chew Eh?
As a Canadian I can confirm that yes, Jews do chew their food. 😂
@@dalel3608funny 😆👍
Great vid… when it comes to Chinese space flight, your channel is the “go to” standard
Thanks Jenifer!
@@DongfangHour hey can you tell me what's the music name 4:20 , please
It's called "Seasons of Sapmi", by Magnus Ludvigsson
Thanks for the reporting!
Thanks for your helpful support @infinityxu! Really appreciate it 🙂
China's space technology development is amazingly impressive. Well done to the space team. Thank you Dongfang Hour for another great content
U from 🇵🇰🤔🤔
A brilliant video, many thanks. Congratulations to the Chinese for such a great achievement in building a methane-LOX liquid fuel rocket - outstanding!
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Important milestone for Landspace, with a world-first launch!
Being able to beat SpaceX is not a small achievement.
@@jrkr7357 Yep 🙂
congrats to landspace and china based space programs.
A great video as usual, keep up the good work of sharing us those fascinating news about Chinese space 🚀
The era and a generation of MethLox aerospace has arrived. This a significant milestone and achievement for Landspace to earn the honour of leading the way. Great coverage in the concise video here.
One observation with the Zhuque-2 launch is the red graphics on the booster were clearly visible (0:09) on launch, unlike other methlox boosters that are obscured by white frost when fuelled (Relativity Terrain-1, SpaceX Starship, or ULA Vulcan Centaur). Not attempting to read anything in to this, just an observation.
Great video and congratulations to Landspace, though every time I read that name my brain registers it as "landscape"... I think I spend too much time doing housework... LOL
I thought exactly same😊
You can call its full name using "land your dream in space", that will avoid "landscape"😂
Me too
Alphabetical order doesn't affect reading🤣
The autocorrection of many smartphones also have the same issue: you type Landspace and it suddenly turns to Landscape 😂
The same thing also happens when you do a Google search with "Landspace".
It's always an informative and insightful analysis accompanied with unbiased review, this is the few very quality channel that focus on coverage the Chinese aeronautics and space development with much details, appreciate and thankyou so much to Jean and your team hard and excellent work and look forward for more of this to come。
Great video! Thanks for the updates.
@DongfangHour 01:25 You have mismatched Tianlong-2 Y1 height (shortened due to demo flight) to a figure of the normal configured Tianlong-2 block 2 here, and as a consequence, the diameter of Tianlong-2 seems disproportional in this figure
Great update, thanks .
Great video, subscribed. As Jenifer wrote, if Chinese space, then the best source is you. I'm surprised that your channel has only this much subscriber. Let's see, what I can do about it. 🙂
Thanks for the kind words and for subscribing 😊
I have to point out this Chinse company was founded 8 years ago which is a pretty young company.
Well done landspace
That rocket has payload of 6T to LEO, this is no joke from a commercial company and they only been around for a few years. I think in a decade they can have reusable rocket putting 50T to LEO.
RARE UPLOAD
@Donfanghour please make brief video landspace and it future prosperous.
DfH Landscape is also planning a zhuque 4 rocket that will be like starship . Fully reusable super heavy lift 10m diameter rocket to start at the end of the decade I believe .
Great report and excellent commentary 👍👍👍👍
It’s a great technical achievement for the ambitious private company. I hope this helps LandSpace to achieve a commercial success. Which is not guaranteed, I suppose. I’m not even talking about scaling up the productions and operations, a lot of Chinese companies had mastered it before. The real question is if government and quasi-government organizations will provide them payloads to launch (i.e. majority of all payloads in China). Traditional contractors like CASC won’t go gentle into that good night, they may offer pretty good discounts and have a ton of options for lobbying. You probably need a some sort of political approval to receive a government contracts in a country like China. I’m not convinced that LandSpace currently has one.
every private vehicle provider in every space power needs government approval, its not exclusive to china, space x survived because nasa contracts. theres no such thing as lobbying in china since the chinese government operates in such a unique way. the contracts available will be leased out in auctions, if you beat casa rockets in cost and efficiency, the money is yours. its a common misconception that the cpc government works the same way as the soviets (if they do they will be long gone), in fact, they are not even socialists government to begin with.
Another good video
how do the zhuque-2 engines compare to Raptor?
The Zhuque-2 uses 4x TQ-12 engines on the first stage. They're a gas generator cycle methalox engine, a more simple architecture compared to the Raptor's FFSC approach. Thrust levels are also very different: the TQ-12 is at ~80 tons, the Raptor engine is more around ~250 tons.
感谢
They really need reusability asap lmao - not sure how they will do that with no center engine - maybe with 2 engines/4 relit?
Congrats to China from your neighbor.
Landspace, are they the ones based in Zhejiang Huzhou (north of Hangzhou)?
Correct (although it’s manufacturing in Huzhou. HQs are in Beijing)
@@DongfangHour Got it, thanks.👍I was trying to visit them back in 2019, but it didn't work out.
🎉🎉🎉
"Zhuque" rocket in Chinese character means "red bird" rocket
It’s basically a Vermillion (mythical creature). It doesn’t directly translate as “red bird”
China space developing at rocket speed.
哈哈,我就猜到你这两天要谈朱雀2
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❤ you guy, good job also
Go China
Reusability is all about software, isn't it? I seen other Chinese companies had already successful tested rockets lift off and landing...Landscape should collaborate with them.
It's not just software, there's also a lot of propulsion tech (engines that can re-ignite and throttle down to 50% thrust), mechanical engineering (landing legs, control surfaces), testing, ...
@@DongfangHour They should implement artificial intelligence like what they done with driverless car...i think it's the same idea. Yes, once you master the propulsion tech...then everything is control by the software and should be done automatically through AI. In the future, it'll be molecular engine where AI know exactly how to land a rocket without human intervention.
It's a combination of effort, but primary factor is increase dry mass ratio as much as possible.. The reason Falcon 9 is so successful as reusable launch vehicle is because its high dry mass ratio thanks to its Merlin engine and new aluminium alloy, the higher the dry mass ratio, the more fuel it can carry for landing and its effect on upper stage is less during design phase. Software won't do it alone, since if rocket being reused has low dry mass, after you load it with landing fuel, it won't have enough delta V to send upper stage. If you increase the total fuel it carries to compensate for delta V, you will end up with a catch 22 and exponentially growing fuel requirement.
Also, the same alloy that granted Falcon 9's high dry mass ratio is the same reason that it can't be reused more than 20 times (unless SpaceX does some magic), since its strength after each duty cycle falls rapidly, unlikely stainless steel, and it will suffer structural failure if same first stage is reused too much.
Also about the fuel. Methane gives off Less heat and is cleaner than kerosene. Allow rocket to be reusable.
@@pohmoh3590If India can use this technology to fuel their rockets, they can send satellites into orbit cheap by collecting farts.
i almost didnt recognise channel cus of the logo change
That was indeed a risk with changing the logo...
Thank you for your updates🙏🙂🙏
TaikonauT 🥇
💚🐉🇨🇳🐉💚
Sinosphere
🦋☸️☯️🕉️🦋
Who else (in China) is doing methalox?
iSpace, Space Epoch, Rocket Pi. iSpace makes their own engine, while the latter two companies purchase them from the Chinese manufacturer JZYJ.
Good
wow, china is creating the future
朱雀 zhu que ju(ice) cho(ose) ye(s) ei(ght), fast read, don't announce quote part.
still definitely going to troll spacex though
Oh for sure 😅
Incredible as Methane made from coal
Methane is Natural Gas. (Methane, Ethane etc etc)
There only a few paying customer but so many rocket company..... u also need to consider the image of ur country to the rest of the world if ur aiming global market.... with their country relationship I wonder how many customer they can get? And with so many competitor within their country with so few willing to use their platform beside their country and those who oppose uncle sam how will they get customer? Majority of them will get bankwup....
You westerners live in a bubble. Only western governments who now have this sudden urge to "derisk" from China. The rest of the world doesn't have that problem. And I mean the REAL rest of the world, not the puny minority 15% of the world's population who live in the west but always think that:
1. they represent the whole world;
2. the majority 85% have the same opinion as theirs about everything at all times.
That's just simply delusional.
Not only that, the value of goods imported from China by all western countries (including the US) keeps increasing despite the nonstop anti-China war rhetoric you hear from Washington. Western politicans can say all they want and gullible nobodies like you are fooled into thinking that every country also wants to cut ties with China.
But trade data show that businesses all over the world desperately needs everincreasing supply of Chinese products. I have no doubt in my mind that private Chinese rocket companies have no problem at all finding clients all over the world.
You are so brainwashed. Do you know that less than 40 countries support USA and over 150 countries support China? When your Western Media says "The World" it only mean the "Western World, and a couple of Asian ones that consider themselves " Western". There are 193 countries in the World, not 40...
@@multiplierfx6429lmao..... live in western bubble? Hahaha.... u will never get my point.....
@@hclau218brainwash? Hahaha.... another one u never get my point....
@@naieuc Read your own post, carefully.
Like all Chinese products
Chal gya toi Chand tk, wrna bs raat tk.
I was under the impression that spaceX do not patent their stuff so anybody can use them. If yes, why are Chinese not taking advantage of it?
Your assumption is SpaceX has advanced technology that China wants. Your Wrong assumption is derived from American exceptionalism mentality - a common disease in USA. When technology ain’t worth the patent , it’s free. Why should Chinese rocket scientists use inferior SpaceX technology when today’s Chinese rocketry is better.
China already beated SpaceX with the first successful methane fuel rocket launch
Landspace is the First-ever successful 🎉
China can build better,why should copy the inferior one 😁
China and Spacex use different fuels.
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