its not the public. the general public liked it. but there was alot of backlash from the fandom. Ironically the last couple years the hate has died down. Its sad, the same ppl that hated it then, looking back now and thinking "Hmm i wonder why they didnt make another" --- to which i'd say Maybe if you gave it a fair chance when it came out, we would have.... Idiots...
It’s cause they were hoping we get a continuation of David and Shaw journey, not another alien 3 situation where some fan favorite are Kim off not honorable. The ideas are there for the film message but it’s just not executed well. There even some scenes removed from Prometheus which help explain more
@@hakis86Romulus is not directed by Ridley Scott. Also Romulus is not a sequel to covenant. It’s been said that it takes place between Alien and Aliens in the timeline.
I am hopeful that Romulus will be successful as a movie and they will let Ridley greenlight the 3rd movie in the trilogy. But it's been a minute since that movie, so not sure how much traction it could get and how much hate those 2 films got.
I personally love this film. There is a lot of intelligent writing. Making references to Mary Shelley (creation of Frankenstein), Percy Shelley (Ozymandias), and Lord Byron (David mistaking the poem to him), references to Dante, quotes from Paradise Lost by Milton--not to mention the significance of Wagner's 'Entrance to Valhalla'. The story is truly an inverted Paradise Lost. This can be boring to some but it contributes to themes that just are not talked about enough.
I saw both Prometheus and Covenant and found them both to be deeply moving in an intellectual and spiritual way. I appreciate your reaction and understanding of both these films. Many thanks 😊
This is what bothered me. I think Covenant is overall kind of a mixed bag. Prometheus raised so many interesting questions and Covenant squanders the potential by killing Shaw off screen and having David nuke the Engineers before we could see much more of them.
@@joshinator5596if that even was the Engineers cause they looked small and a bit more basic and grey than big, strong and white. Maybe Ridley was trying to keep a backdoor open to later say they weren't engineers. These people always seemed to me to sort of look up to the Engineers, hence their excitement at seeing the ship.
Sadly because this didn't do well at box office, we never got the third planned part of Ridley's prequel trilogy which would have led up to events in the original Alien. I think the studio pandered to those who wanted more xenomorphs like this guy.
@@japes7 That crossed my mind as well. Would’ve been kind of interesting if David thought he killed the engineers but actually it was just another species created by them.
I'm someone who doesn't hate Prometheus. Flawed as it was, I did enjoy it. But IMO Covenant is such a better movie, and Fassbender's role is just very powerfully acted.
I just loved how different Prometheus is. I know it's not a traditional Alien movie but I feel like it's always nice to have a change of pace in a movie franchise. Yeah, David and Walter definitely carried that movie. On another note I think Romulus will be one of the best.
The realization of you remembering the beginning is just flashback had me hollering brother. 😂😂 So many people had issues with this movie but I enjoyed it very much.
@@lightningmonky7674romulus is fucking incredible and also introduces the modified black goo that will make humans regenerate just like that one rat did(without the exploding aspect)
Personally i liked this film. I think ppl were overly critical and didnt quite understand the story or how it could enrich the rest of the universe. Critics were focused on not liking what was introduced narratively rather than theorizing on how interesting the universe could be moving forward. Its a solid 8/10 movie for me 🙂
You're spot on about not understanding (or wanting to appreciate) how it enriched the universe. A lot of things are opened wide up beyond humans vs space bugs.
From what I understand of the public hate, people were upset that Prometheus wasn't a classic Alien film. So Scott scrapped his original plans for the Engineers and made Covenant more of a classic Alien film. And people complained "what happened to the Engineers though etc" ... he couldn't win. I think both films have been reviewed more favourably recently though. Looking forward to Romulus!
I think it's more of a problem of how Ridley executed that idea. I like Prometheus for what it brought to the table, but like other people, I just didn't like how he did it.
@@thatkidnamedjoe3374 Wrong. He couldn't win over the audience because of poor execution coupled with the pretentious pseudo-philosophical writing. While I didn't think "Prometheus" was too bad, to me it was mostly a pretty movie to look at but that's it. Most of the cast aren't particularly likeable or memorable, it asks a lot of big questions but doesn't really give any answers, and it can't seem to decide if it wants to be its own thing or an ALIEN prequel. In the end, "Prometheus" is a movie that tries to come off as "deep" but in reality its about as shallow as a puddle. As for "Alien Covenant", it did everything that "Prometheus" did wrong while doing nothing right. The writing was beyond terrible, the characters are as stupid as they are forgettable and underdeveloped, and it just doesn't bring much of real value to the table. Hell, you could add the flaw that it just abandons the "Prometheus" storyline for a half-baked "ALIEN" plot. I know its said that FOX and Ridley Scott put out "Alien Covenant" because of claims that fans complained about there not being any xenomorphs in "Prometheus", but honestly I call bullsh!t on that. Granted I don't have eyes everywhere, but speaking from my own experience that particular complaint was very rare and seems to stem from the confused marketing... I.e.: "Prometheus" was supposed to be its own thing yet the trailer had distinct ALIEN sounds to it that'd suggest a proper prequel. What complaints I DID see a lot of were people complaining about the shallow and pretentious writing, the characters making really dumb choices, characters just not being all that well-written period... And these issues carried over into "Alien Covenant".
Die hard Alien fans can say what they want about this movie and there are genuine criticisms to make but personally Michael Fassbender was a joy to watch in this and in Prometheus regardless of the plot his dialogue and delivery were great imo
Prometheus recieved extremely mixed reviews, a lot of them favoring the negative, so Ridley Scott gave people more of the traditional alien stuff they had wanted with this one. There was supposed to be one more prequel film after this that Scott wanted to make, which would have finally bridged the gap leading up to his original Alien film, but this simply didn't do well enough critically or financially.
The next film in the prequel trilogy was going to be called Alien Awakening and was meant to go right into Alien. It was meant to be the war between the engineers, David and the xenomorphs. Obviously during the war one of the xenomorphs gets on board of the engineers ships with eggs and a facehugger makes the engineer crash land onto LV426 (orginal Alien 1979 planet). Who wouldnt want to see that. Sounds mental and soo sad we will never get that final movie 😞
I wouldn't say that now with Alien Romulus doing well and prequel lore tie in. I think Ridley could get a final shot... dude is 86 just let him finish it and hand the franchise off to the Aliens fans who want more colonial marines lmao.
The scene on the ship with the Neomorphs was probably the most tense I had felt while watching through the Alien films for the first time in preparation for Romulus. From the back bursting, to the utter fear exuding in Amy Seimetz' entire performance, to the explosion of the ship, to the double thronged Neomorph attack, etc. It's just perfect. Then Romulus comes and outdoes it in every way. But that moment basically sold the whole film for me. The rest was great, too, but that was the best. Edit: I'm glad I didn't watch this movie without closed captioning. It would've gaslit the shit out of me.
I saw Prometheus and Covenant in theater. I will be honest and say that upon first watch, the collective negativity that I experienced and saw from other moviegoers was that the death of the Engineers and Elizabeth Shaw at the hands of David was a sort of let down. Prometheus left us wanting to know the origins of the Engineers and their reasons for wanting to kill humans, but the whole story was hijacked by David and his god complex. I’ve watched a few times since then and have grown to like and appreciate it, but the Engineers story was fascinating to me and cut short. Why did they want to kill us? Did they create us and how? Now we’ll never know 🥺
Scott said why in interviews. Evidentially they weren't happy with how we were developing, but decided to send an emissary to set us straight. Unfortunately these guys called the Romans came along and crucified the emissary. I'm not kidding, Scott wanted this emissary to be Jesus in this universe and his being killed is why they want us dead.
The reason people don't like Prometheus and Covenant is because they expected a monster movie, but what they got was a more sophisticated film about evolution and the god complex. That's also why the new Jurassic Park films are really just bad monster movies, while the first Jurassic Park had a deeper underlying theme revolving around the negative human effect on nature. I love Ridley Scott for keeping his vision despite what I'm sure was a lot of pressure to create another "Aliens movie". He tried to please everyone with Covenant by bringing the Xenomorphs back, but most people are sadly not that interested in deep sci-fi films today. That's also why Blade Runner 2049 (2017) failed at the box office, despite arguably being one of the best sci-fi films released in the last 20 years. The horror/monster-movie genre is much more popular than the sci-fi genre.
A lot of people didn't like the fact that the Alien took the back seat to David as the big bad of not only this film but the entire franchise since he allegedly created the alien. I personally found him to be a fantastic villain and his god complex was highly entertaining IMO.
Aside from the original, this is my favorite of the entire series. I am love with how unafraid this film was with violence and gore. This has got to be the most violent and gory Alien film to-date at the time. And I love that it makes David the most important character in the series behind Ripley.
When Prometheus was released, a lot of Aliens fans were upset that it wasn't another Aliens movie. Then when Covenant was released, the same people were upset because it didn't continue the Prometheus story and turned into an Alien film. Moral of the story, people are never happy
If you watch the deleted scenes it explains david deployed all the genetic accelerator/black goo onto the planet their on which was occupied by a civilization made by the engineers, not the engineers themselves. The engineers create life and this was one of their creations. David wiped them out using the ship him and shaw were on basically because he wanted to play god. David also didnt create the xenomorph, he copied the ideas from the engineers to make them in his own image. The engineers created xenomorphs long before but only used the black goo to make them as a weapon. Theres a mural of a xenomorph in the engineers ship in prometheus.
15:33 I had the same reaction lol, it was wild! So cool you enjoyed it so much. This was my favorite alien movie of all of them until i saw Romulus the other day. Loved the characters of Covenant and the David vs. Walter dynamic, David's Ozymandyas complex. Also, the Xenos were insane. I have no idea why some audiences didnt like it, me and my friends loved it and still talk about it or reference to it 👽
Love your reaction man. And the creative ways everyone died in was definitely interesting. Will be seeing Romulus this Sunday and I am ready to be scared again! Also confident it will be one of my favorite films in the franchise.
I'm someone who appreciates Prometheus as the years go by. Alien: Covenant was the first Alien film I saw in theaters. I remember being impressed with its gore and how more action-packed the film was during the first half compared to that of Prometheus. However, I didn't like the second half, particularly the David parts. I understand that David was the main villain, setting things in motion, infecting crew members with the black goo to see what it does. I know he put things in motion to create the Xenomorphs. However, to find him being the one physically creating the Xenomorphs from scratch really soured the film for me. All this time, instead of the Engineers could have used the Deacon to engineer Xenomorphs, it was just an android all this time. It just felt like the entire Alien universe had gotten a lot smaller, that these species were created by an android instead by another alien species. Also, Covemant didn't do well at the box office, it left plot holes. Like why did the Engineers originally want to invade us and destroy us? How did they come in contact with the Xenomorphs? How does this all set up to the first Alien film? I don't think Covenant is a bad movie by any means, but it's a letdown from Prometheus in my opinion.
David didn't create the Xenomorphs, he just used the Engineers Black Goo to make his own version of them. You can see a mural in Prometheus of the Xenomorph, implying that the Engineers created them a very long time ago. Think of the Black Goo as being the Xenomorphs in fluent form, David just used Shaw's dna to make his own. Kinda like building an Ikea furniture without any manual.
In the original trilogy, Alien I-III, Weyland Yutani was the parent company, the employer of Rpipley and one of the largest corporations in the world of Aliens. This was particularly highlighted in Aliens because there were always yellow signs with the name Weyland-Yutani Corporation on the colony.
Man, I watched everything that came out regarding this movie as it ramped up to its release. I was sooo pumped to watch it and then so colossally pissed off after it came out. It’s the main reason I’ve stayed away from Romulus stuff. Don’t wanna get let down again, just in case lol
this was the first alien movie i ever watched on a long flight in asia. one of those planes with a movie selection. i was literally too disturbed to even cancel the viewing. that scene where it comes out of his back, its horrifying and it looks very good/realistic
He didn't create them... *SPOILERS* Romulus confirms that the black goo is able to be reverse engineered from xenomorphs which is likely what the engineers did to some form of xeno ancestors. The Covenant novel makes it very clear that David just followed the obvious DNA patterns to recreate a form of xeno.
@@robtintelnot9107 Well considering that the pathogen seems to always lead to a xenomorph-like creature I would say that David didn't create them but rather recreated them or at least tried, one thing Covenant made very clear was how an android cannot create, David may be an exception to this but I think based on some of the scenes I get the impression that it's not quite the case, it's almost as if the pathogen WANTS to become a xenomorph
21:41 The best I’ve seen is the movie ‘What happed to monday’ the actress who plays Shaw stars in it and you’d really think sis had six other twins she really showed the difference in their personalities.
Love this movie! It has a lot of unanswered questions and that might be why people don't like it. You somewhat need to read between the lines here and some people just want more of a pure horror/action movie. I'm a huge fan of the other alien movies too, but this one holds a special place in my heart. Can't get enough of Michael Fassbender as David:)
I thought it was ok. I really wanted Shaw to be the new Ripley of the series - at least I thought it was heading there. It just sucks cause she never got her questions answered.
For me personally, my mixed review comes from two places. First, it almost totally throws away what Prometheus started. I wasn't a fan of the Engineer story as presented, but it seems like because a lot of people expressed similar thoughts they just decided to trash any of the world building they did attempt in the last one. Engineer home planet? Shaw? Just wipe them away. Second, I dislike knowing that David created the aliens as we know them. It seems rather anticlimactic. It's not a bad movie though. It does have many things going for it- the cast is good, Fassbender is amazing, the movie's beautiful. Character actions feel less dumb than Prometheus, *mostly*. I do understand the difficulty though; to make an Alien movie feel fresh and keep people happy. High hopes for Romulus!
I think what people didn't like is was the human factor involved in the creation of the Xenomorphs. David was a human creation, then Alien indirectly they also are so. I guess for many the idea of "a mysterious parasite species" was better.
I never understood the negative criticism this film and Prometheus received. I just feel like they went over people's heads. That is to say, the people who who viewed them negatively were simpletons. Maybe I'm being unkind. Maybe. But that's how I genuinely feel.
A lot of the haters, not all, but a lot seem to be Aliens fans in particular who wish it was just humans vs bugs. But there are people who have legitimate gripes with the writing choices regardless of lore direction.
40:48 Thing is, its probably not the general public that didn't like it. For the most part, when i spoke to ppl who were just casual fans, they loved it and though it was a good scifi horror. But the issue came down to fans who were already questioning the value of Prometheus, and then the Alien franchise has an extremely opinionated fandom. Here are a few reasons why people disliked the movie at the time. (I personally loved it Btw) - Killing off Elizabeth Shaw off screen. An off-screen death can be annoying, and for the fandom it was really irritating to them to see a character they were hoping to follow more of, be dead just like that - David essentially engineering the Xenomorph... Many of the lore *experts* and devout fans felt like it was a bit of an insult to have David be the one to basically create them. (Although to be fair, fans didnt quite understand that it wasnt David who made them, he just helped speed along the process... But most people can't critically think and make that distinction) - There was a lot of criticism about the look of the Xenomorph, specifically that there wasn't as much practical effects like the original films (Which once again is quite stupid, considering the visual effects were quite good compared to something like Alien 3, which had horrible CGI) - There was a lot of criticism about character choices. Often times fans and critics will call out 'Stupid' decisions made by the characters of a movie. In Covenant, there were decisions made hastily by characters and many people felt like the ppl were just being stupid.... (Once again, I'd argue the people in Covenant were far less qualified to deal with the situation. They were just colonists, looking for a planet to establish a settlement) Infact, the characters in Prometheus were a little more stupid since technically there were actual scientists on the team. The crew of Covenant were just regular travellers, looking for a place to live. These are some of a few different critques made by fans. I would say a lot has to do with unrealistic expectations, overly critical opinions, bandwagon opinions, and unfair judgment of the story and characters. I'm not saying people don't have the right to have an opinion, but i think that in the case of Alien: Covenant It was ALOT better than people gave it credit for. At least if people were to be a little more objective, they would see that movie added alot more to the Alien franchise. Its a shame ppl had to criticize it to death and make it seem like it was the worst. It was far from the worst movie in the franchise. But that's what happens when you live in an era where everyone has an opinion :P
What I feel like would be nice to have - would be having a promise that we are getting a flashback to Shaw and David and her death and transformation - in a third movie. Like this off-screen death is great for the suprise and tension of the actual movie plot of Covenant - but it would be nice to have some things finished in a proper manner. It's kinda the same thing with Prometheus, where the whole movie lost a lot because of all the scenes with Engineer talking with the crew got cut. It turns intriguing sci-fi that wants to debate some philosophical questions about human origin and meaning of life itself, into a regular monster-mash. Covenant at least does it better with how David is depicted in it. Also for me personally - it always read as Aliens always existed, it's just that David unlocked and found them again. Kinda like broken DNA of Engineers created life and humans on Earth - the idea for Xenomorph always was locked within the black goo. He didn't invent the wheel, he found what was lost, with some extra improvements.
Fantastic movie. Prometheus I recall also had negative reviews because it "wasn't an Alien movie" and I think ppl felt like it was false advertising because the whole point was to "explain" the origin and purpose of the Alien, but it left people only with more questions (that and basically retconned alot of established lore in-comics of the series). Covenant meanwhile got panned for "caving to criticism" by making this a more traditional alien movie. Also I think alot of people were dissatisfied with what happened to Shaw and how, while this movie gives us a potential explanation of the alien (aka David created it experimenting with the virus and human DNA), it also answeres borderline none of the questions Prometheus left us with (such as the engineers potentially already knowing about or having created the xenomorphs before-hand).
The general public didn't like this film because they were trying to see an Alien movie in Prometheus and Covenant, while the underlying theme and structure was more like Blade Runner -- God's creation sets out on a journey to see their creator. When they finally meet the god, they ask: "Why you created us?", "Why did you make us this way, mortal?". But the creator doesn't give them satisfactory answers, so they kill the god. You see. It's Blade Runner. They should have tried to see the underlying theme instead of the Alien trope.
I think it's a good movie. Perhaps the fans didn't like the retcon that the Xenomorphs were created by David. I can understand because I always felt it was better for them to remain mysterious. To a certain extent it's still a mysterious species because we don't know where the Engineers got the pathogen from.
It’s popular to hate on films in modern media, and so much of the Alien franchise has been recycled and obviously the sequence with the Neomorphs in Act II drew a lot of ire, but I for one very much enjoyed the film. I think it was an excellent lore building entry into the series!
i loved this and Prometheus. I think it may have to do with just how well loved Alien and Aliens were and how badly received 3 and 4 were that people had higher hopes. Additionally people heard prequel and hoped this one would have connect immediately to Alien which we do/dont cause it def takes some years before we get to the time period of Alien. Love your reaction and how excited you were with this one. I saw this in theaters and was probably the only hyped one in there [wasnt that many ppl in there tho so thats expected]. Are you gonna try to get the Alien popcorn bucket too?
IF.... if they had kept these separate from the original movies, they would probably have been received better. side note, it was nice to see mcbride in a serious role. and fassbender nailed his parts perfectly.
I love this movie! It’s so ridiculous how much hate it’s gotten really. Imo it’s one of those movies where if you go into it without knowing/expecting too much &/or know how it’s received by others…you’ll enjoy it sooo much more! It’s really just frustrating when stuff like that happens…also, when it comes to such movies, I often find that the most outspoken and hard core haters are the ones that tend to get all butt hurt when “their” version/original version of certain story beats and lore are changed/altered/retold in some way, as if they wrote/created the shit themselves 😅🤦♀️🤷♀️I mean like seriously…get over it my dudes! As imo if the original person that came up with the plot &/or origins or just lore in general is the same person who is now altering it or framing certain things differently like Scott has done here…who the hell are you to be upset or offended to the point that you are basically refusing to accept the new lore…are you really a fan? If the man says that this is the story…it’s the damn story, stfu!😂😉👍
I loved this movie, especially the ending. I don’t get the hate. The only thing I found frustrating was that there wasn’t a sequel directly off of this ending.
I really wish Alien Romulus was based on the Alien novel River of Pain it explains exactly what happens to the colony on LV 426 Before Ripley and the marines show up it would have made an excellent movie perfect blend of action/Horror and sci-fi
I have a feeling there was meant to be a movie between this one and Prometheus, because there's a lot of concept art that expand more on Shaw and David and the questions left behind by Prometheus. Don't take my word for it, it's just a vague notion that I remember, but I think that had something to do with the negative reaction. Honestly, it's one of my favourite Alien movies. Really felt like a return to form. But people wanted more Prometheus and less Alien from what I remember.
I actually like this movie BUT them scrapping what happened in the previous film just felt weird I definitely wanted more time with Shaw she felt like our new Ripley, and the whole faith and meeting your maker was actually very interesting to me. I also have a love hate with the ending but the moment when you realize it’s David instead of Walter because, she only talks to Walter about the cabin at the lake so until that’s revealed we are just assuming it’s Walter is definitely a “oh shit” moment. 18:27 I agree don’t get me wrong the chest bursting is cool but seeing it burst out of the guys back literally made me uncomfortable 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I haven’t seen Romulus yet but I’m rewatching them in chronological order and so far Covenant is definitely my second favorite. I can’t say it’s better than Alien. That one still is the best. But I’m excited for the new one I should be seeing it this week.
It is one of my favorites, but I didn't like they killed Elizabeth Shaw offscreen, I wanted more story about the engineers etc. Nevertheless I do like this movie for what it is, again one of my favorites
Weyland-Yutani is a large conglomerate interstellar corporation largely concerned with weapon research and development. If I’m not mistaken they also handle the human colonies outside the solar system.
Great horror elements and David being the villain, but this movie did such a disservice to Prometheus set up, Shaw being killed off screen, no answers from The Engineers world, and the pointless ProtoXenomorph back in that other planet.
Prometheus and Covenant are good as stand-alone movies, but by trying to give answers they ruined the mystery of the original Alien, thus rendering Giger's iconic creature less scary, unknown, and well, "alien".
This was a much better movie than rated. I didn't love the idea of killing off Shaw and having David create the xenonorph, but it doesn't deserve some of the criticism.
This was the movie that made me stop listening to the Internet regarding cinema, it's full of fools. This is a brilliant movie, it's well made, produced and acted, a genuinely scary Alien film, back to the Sci horror vibe. After Promethous I was confused as that's a good movie with Covenant it just confirmed that online discourse was just muppetts that know nothing about movie making.
I've asked countless people why they don't like Prometheus and Covenant over the years and I can never get a clear answer from them It seems to just boil down to they don't actually understand the movies and they wanted something more like AVP just action no story
David was always the villain. He's the one who infected everybody on the Prometheus ship!
Yea! He put that specimen I Holloway’s booze!
I seriously don't get why public hate this movie so much... It's incredible.
its not the public. the general public liked it. but there was alot of backlash from the fandom. Ironically the last couple years the hate has died down. Its sad, the same ppl that hated it then, looking back now and thinking "Hmm i wonder why they didnt make another" --- to which i'd say Maybe if you gave it a fair chance when it came out, we would have.... Idiots...
It’s cause they were hoping we get a continuation of David and Shaw journey, not another alien 3 situation where some fan favorite are Kim off not honorable. The ideas are there for the film message but it’s just not executed well. There even some scenes removed from Prometheus which help explain more
Well I can’t speak for the general public, but I am a fan and yes, I absolutely hated this movie.
It lacks suspense, doesn’t answer any questions or have any real reason to exist. Also has terrible CGI
@daytonsouthall1137 Bro say whatever you want but covenant has the best cgi in the whole franchise....
I loved these two films, and wish Ridley Scott was able to finish it as a trilogy.
What is Romulus then?
@@hakis86Romulus is not directed by Ridley Scott. Also Romulus is not a sequel to covenant. It’s been said that it takes place between Alien and Aliens in the timeline.
I am hopeful that Romulus will be successful as a movie and they will let Ridley greenlight the 3rd movie in the trilogy. But it's been a minute since that movie, so not sure how much traction it could get and how much hate those 2 films got.
@@hakis86lol...
@@UnhappyTooth Romulus was still produced by Ridley Scott.
I personally love this film. There is a lot of intelligent writing. Making references to Mary Shelley (creation of Frankenstein), Percy Shelley (Ozymandias), and Lord Byron (David mistaking the poem to him), references to Dante, quotes from Paradise Lost by Milton--not to mention the significance of Wagner's 'Entrance to Valhalla'. The story is truly an inverted Paradise Lost. This can be boring to some but it contributes to themes that just are not talked about enough.
I saw both Prometheus and Covenant and found them both to be deeply moving in an intellectual and spiritual way. I appreciate your reaction and understanding of both these films. Many thanks 😊
I remember not allot of people loving it because they wanted the story of Prometheus to keep going. It kinda does, but it doesn't.
It was more the offscreen death that was supposed to be expanded more in the concept art.
This is what bothered me. I think Covenant is overall kind of a mixed bag. Prometheus raised so many interesting questions and Covenant squanders the potential by killing Shaw off screen and having David nuke the Engineers before we could see much more of them.
@@joshinator5596if that even was the Engineers cause they looked small and a bit more basic and grey than big, strong and white. Maybe Ridley was trying to keep a backdoor open to later say they weren't engineers.
These people always seemed to me to sort of look up to the Engineers, hence their excitement at seeing the ship.
Sadly because this didn't do well at box office, we never got the third planned part of Ridley's prequel trilogy which would have led up to events in the original Alien. I think the studio pandered to those who wanted more xenomorphs like this guy.
@@japes7 That crossed my mind as well. Would’ve been kind of interesting if David thought he killed the engineers but actually it was just another species created by them.
This movie is honestly so amazing. Genuinely just cant fathom how so many people dislike it.
I'm someone who doesn't hate Prometheus. Flawed as it was, I did enjoy it. But IMO Covenant is such a better movie, and Fassbender's role is just very powerfully acted.
I just loved how different Prometheus is. I know it's not a traditional Alien movie but I feel like it's always nice to have a change of pace in a movie franchise. Yeah, David and Walter definitely carried that movie. On another note I think Romulus will be one of the best.
The realization of you remembering the beginning is just flashback had me hollering brother. 😂😂 So many people had issues with this movie but I enjoyed it very much.
Your reaction to the mixed reviews was so relatable lol. idk how people can call this a bad movie
Couldn't agree more:)
Ridley Scott didn’t do what the hardcore fandom wanted. Most of them can’t see the bigger picture.
I liked them cause they were different than what came before. 3,4 and Romulus are all mid cause they keep repeating the same fucking plotline
@@lightningmonky7674romulus is fucking incredible and also introduces the modified black goo that will make humans regenerate just like that one rat did(without the exploding aspect)
Personally i liked this film. I think ppl were overly critical and didnt quite understand the story or how it could enrich the rest of the universe. Critics were focused on not liking what was introduced narratively rather than theorizing on how interesting the universe could be moving forward.
Its a solid 8/10 movie for me 🙂
You're spot on about not understanding (or wanting to appreciate) how it enriched the universe. A lot of things are opened wide up beyond humans vs space bugs.
From what I understand of the public hate, people were upset that Prometheus wasn't a classic Alien film. So Scott scrapped his original plans for the Engineers and made Covenant more of a classic Alien film. And people complained "what happened to the Engineers though etc" ... he couldn't win.
I think both films have been reviewed more favourably recently though. Looking forward to Romulus!
Exactly. Scott couldn’t win with the audience. They were unwilling to accept different, bigger ideas.
I think it's more of a problem of how Ridley executed that idea. I like Prometheus for what it brought to the table, but like other people, I just didn't like how he did it.
@@thatkidnamedjoe3374 Wrong. He couldn't win over the audience because of poor execution coupled with the pretentious pseudo-philosophical writing. While I didn't think "Prometheus" was too bad, to me it was mostly a pretty movie to look at but that's it. Most of the cast aren't particularly likeable or memorable, it asks a lot of big questions but doesn't really give any answers, and it can't seem to decide if it wants to be its own thing or an ALIEN prequel. In the end, "Prometheus" is a movie that tries to come off as "deep" but in reality its about as shallow as a puddle.
As for "Alien Covenant", it did everything that "Prometheus" did wrong while doing nothing right. The writing was beyond terrible, the characters are as stupid as they are forgettable and underdeveloped, and it just doesn't bring much of real value to the table. Hell, you could add the flaw that it just abandons the "Prometheus" storyline for a half-baked "ALIEN" plot. I know its said that FOX and Ridley Scott put out "Alien Covenant" because of claims that fans complained about there not being any xenomorphs in "Prometheus", but honestly I call bullsh!t on that. Granted I don't have eyes everywhere, but speaking from my own experience that particular complaint was very rare and seems to stem from the confused marketing... I.e.: "Prometheus" was supposed to be its own thing yet the trailer had distinct ALIEN sounds to it that'd suggest a proper prequel. What complaints I DID see a lot of were people complaining about the shallow and pretentious writing, the characters making really dumb choices, characters just not being all that well-written period... And these issues carried over into "Alien Covenant".
This one and Prometheus got bad ratings because:
Hater, screams loud 😤
And Enjoyer, enjoys in silence 😌
pretty much
I think if the story goes different way, most people would still hate it🌚
I couldnt quick on this video fast enough! So excited to see your reaction to this one. Its one of my favorites from the franchise.
David was a villain in Prometheus
Die hard Alien fans can say what they want about this movie and there are genuine criticisms to make but personally Michael Fassbender was a joy to watch in this and in Prometheus regardless of the plot his dialogue and delivery were great imo
Prometheus recieved extremely mixed reviews, a lot of them favoring the negative, so Ridley Scott gave people more of the traditional alien stuff they had wanted with this one. There was supposed to be one more prequel film after this that Scott wanted to make, which would have finally bridged the gap leading up to his original Alien film, but this simply didn't do well enough critically or financially.
The next film in the prequel trilogy was going to be called Alien Awakening and was meant to go right into Alien. It was meant to be the war between the engineers, David and the xenomorphs. Obviously during the war one of the xenomorphs gets on board of the engineers ships with eggs and a facehugger makes the engineer crash land onto LV426 (orginal Alien 1979 planet). Who wouldnt want to see that. Sounds mental and soo sad we will never get that final movie 😞
I wouldn't say that now with Alien Romulus doing well and prequel lore tie in. I think Ridley could get a final shot... dude is 86 just let him finish it and hand the franchise off to the Aliens fans who want more colonial marines lmao.
@@TheTrveMothlord exactly. We need closure at least.
I loved both Promethus and Covenant. But I also liked Alien 3 when it was getting torn apart by critics. /shrug
The extended directors cut is brilliant of Alien 3 the extended versions really good way better than the theatrical cut
I liked Prometheus and alien 3 though I wasn’t to fond of this film if I’m being honest but I might need to rewatch it a few more time
And after all this especially with that insane cliffhanger, we quite possibly will never get closure to this trilogy. 😔😔😔
The scene on the ship with the Neomorphs was probably the most tense I had felt while watching through the Alien films for the first time in preparation for Romulus. From the back bursting, to the utter fear exuding in Amy Seimetz' entire performance, to the explosion of the ship, to the double thronged Neomorph attack, etc. It's just perfect. Then Romulus comes and outdoes it in every way. But that moment basically sold the whole film for me. The rest was great, too, but that was the best.
Edit: I'm glad I didn't watch this movie without closed captioning. It would've gaslit the shit out of me.
I saw Prometheus and Covenant in theater. I will be honest and say that upon first watch, the collective negativity that I experienced and saw from other moviegoers was that the death of the Engineers and Elizabeth Shaw at the hands of David was a sort of let down. Prometheus left us wanting to know the origins of the Engineers and their reasons for wanting to kill humans, but the whole story was hijacked by David and his god complex. I’ve watched a few times since then and have grown to like and appreciate it, but the Engineers story was fascinating to me and cut short. Why did they want to kill us? Did they create us and how? Now we’ll never know 🥺
Scott said why in interviews. Evidentially they weren't happy with how we were developing, but decided to send an emissary to set us straight. Unfortunately these guys called the Romans came along and crucified the emissary. I'm not kidding, Scott wanted this emissary to be Jesus in this universe and his being killed is why they want us dead.
The reason people don't like Prometheus and Covenant is because they expected a monster movie, but what they got was a more sophisticated film about evolution and the god complex. That's also why the new Jurassic Park films are really just bad monster movies, while the first Jurassic Park had a deeper underlying theme revolving around the negative human effect on nature. I love Ridley Scott for keeping his vision despite what I'm sure was a lot of pressure to create another "Aliens movie". He tried to please everyone with Covenant by bringing the Xenomorphs back, but most people are sadly not that interested in deep sci-fi films today. That's also why Blade Runner 2049 (2017) failed at the box office, despite arguably being one of the best sci-fi films released in the last 20 years. The horror/monster-movie genre is much more popular than the sci-fi genre.
A lot of people didn't like the fact that the Alien took the back seat to David as the big bad of not only this film but the entire franchise since he allegedly created the alien. I personally found him to be a fantastic villain and his god complex was highly entertaining IMO.
How did he not know David was villain?... lol
Covenant is easily in my top 3 Alien movies. Why this one isn't more regarded is insane!😂 Loved your reaction!!🙌
Aside from the original, this is my favorite of the entire series. I am love with how unafraid this film was with violence and gore. This has got to be the most violent and gory Alien film to-date at the time. And I love that it makes David the most important character in the series behind Ripley.
Wait what? What do you mean by David's now a villain? He has been since Prometheus 😂
Oh no, Hannibal Lector is a bad guy??? Aww! 😂
Was looking for this comment! I didn't get why he was surprised 😂
When Prometheus was released, a lot of Aliens fans were upset that it wasn't another Aliens movie. Then when Covenant was released, the same people were upset because it didn't continue the Prometheus story and turned into an Alien film. Moral of the story, people are never happy
The first xenomorph we see in this movie always reminds of the dog burster xenomorph from Alien 3
Alien Covenant is just Michael Fassbender playing with himself 💀
and doing the fingering
phenomenal actinb btw, very nuanced but slick as hell
If you watch the deleted scenes it explains david deployed all the genetic accelerator/black goo onto the planet their on which was occupied by a civilization made by the engineers, not the engineers themselves. The engineers create life and this was one of their creations. David wiped them out using the ship him and shaw were on basically because he wanted to play god. David also didnt create the xenomorph, he copied the ideas from the engineers to make them in his own image. The engineers created xenomorphs long before but only used the black goo to make them as a weapon. Theres a mural of a xenomorph in the engineers ship in prometheus.
The scenes when the aliens entered both shower gave me new phobias when I first saw them...
James Franco played a character named "Alien" in the movie Spring Breakers (2012).
I watched this at the theater and forreal everyone in that building loved it. I don’t care what others think. I enjoyed this one and the other.
"That's the spirit" is also a clue it's the same universe as "Blade Runner" because Roy Batty says it too because they're both synthetics.
No it isn't.
your justifications for David's blood-soaked RED flags here (and in prometheus as well) are insane!
I always underestimate androids LMAO
@@MovieFusion But you have to love the good ones being Bishop and Walter!
15:33 I had the same reaction lol, it was wild! So cool you enjoyed it so much. This was my favorite alien movie of all of them until i saw Romulus the other day. Loved the characters of Covenant and the David vs. Walter dynamic, David's Ozymandyas complex. Also, the Xenos were insane. I have no idea why some audiences didnt like it, me and my friends loved it and still talk about it or reference to it 👽
One of if not my favourite alien film, love the gothic mad scientist horror of it
Love your reaction man. And the creative ways everyone died in was definitely interesting. Will be seeing Romulus this Sunday and I am ready to be scared again! Also confident it will be one of my favorite films in the franchise.
We still listen to music from centuries ago so it’s safe to assume they would too.
I'm someone who appreciates Prometheus as the years go by. Alien: Covenant was the first Alien film I saw in theaters. I remember being impressed with its gore and how more action-packed the film was during the first half compared to that of Prometheus. However, I didn't like the second half, particularly the David parts. I understand that David was the main villain, setting things in motion, infecting crew members with the black goo to see what it does. I know he put things in motion to create the Xenomorphs. However, to find him being the one physically creating the Xenomorphs from scratch really soured the film for me. All this time, instead of the Engineers could have used the Deacon to engineer Xenomorphs, it was just an android all this time. It just felt like the entire Alien universe had gotten a lot smaller, that these species were created by an android instead by another alien species. Also, Covemant didn't do well at the box office, it left plot holes. Like why did the Engineers originally want to invade us and destroy us? How did they come in contact with the Xenomorphs? How does this all set up to the first Alien film? I don't think Covenant is a bad movie by any means, but it's a letdown from Prometheus in my opinion.
David didn't create the Xenomorphs, he just used the Engineers Black Goo to make his own version of them. You can see a mural in Prometheus of the Xenomorph, implying that the Engineers created them a very long time ago. Think of the Black Goo as being the Xenomorphs in fluent form, David just used Shaw's dna to make his own. Kinda like building an Ikea furniture without any manual.
In the original trilogy, Alien I-III, Weyland Yutani was the parent company, the employer of Rpipley and one of the largest corporations in the world of Aliens. This was particularly highlighted in Aliens because there were always yellow signs with the name Weyland-Yutani Corporation on the colony.
Real shame we don’t the third movie. Great movie, weird reception.
Man, I watched everything that came out regarding this movie as it ramped up to its release. I was sooo pumped to watch it and then so colossally pissed off after it came out. It’s the main reason I’ve stayed away from Romulus stuff. Don’t wanna get let down again, just in case lol
This is such an underrated film
this was the first alien movie i ever watched on a long flight in asia. one of those planes with a movie selection. i was literally too disturbed to even cancel the viewing. that scene where it comes out of his back, its horrifying and it looks very good/realistic
You need to understand that David hasn't finished creating the Xenomorph yet. What we've seen doesn't hold the same name.
He didn't create them... *SPOILERS*
Romulus confirms that the black goo is able to be reverse engineered from xenomorphs which is likely what the engineers did to some form of xeno ancestors. The Covenant novel makes it very clear that David just followed the obvious DNA patterns to recreate a form of xeno.
@@TheTrveMothlord That doesn't make sense. How can he be recreating something he doesn't know about? He was doing tests and evolving this thing.
@@robtintelnot9107 Well considering that the pathogen seems to always lead to a xenomorph-like creature I would say that David didn't create them but rather recreated them or at least tried, one thing Covenant made very clear was how an android cannot create, David may be an exception to this but I think based on some of the scenes I get the impression that it's not quite the case, it's almost as if the pathogen WANTS to become a xenomorph
Fun fact, Covenant was inspired by John Milton's classic work Paradise Lost, which revolves around Satan (Alien's equivalent to David).
21:41 The best I’ve seen is the movie ‘What happed to monday’ the actress who plays Shaw stars in it and you’d really think sis had six other twins she really showed the difference in their personalities.
Prometheus and Covenant are awesome... Totally worthy of the Alien franchise.
I like Walter. I think this film looks great, just as Prometheus did. But it's so nihilistic. It's like a descent into Hell.
People gave it bad reviews because they tried to build it on Prometheus which also didn’t do well, but I love both and the effects in this is great
Love this movie! It has a lot of unanswered questions and that might be why people don't like it. You somewhat need to read between the lines here and some people just want more of a pure horror/action movie. I'm a huge fan of the other alien movies too, but this one holds a special place in my heart. Can't get enough of Michael Fassbender as David:)
I thought it was ok. I really wanted Shaw to be the new Ripley of the series - at least I thought it was heading there. It just sucks cause she never got her questions answered.
For me personally, my mixed review comes from two places. First, it almost totally throws away what Prometheus started. I wasn't a fan of the Engineer story as presented, but it seems like because a lot of people expressed similar thoughts they just decided to trash any of the world building they did attempt in the last one. Engineer home planet? Shaw? Just wipe them away. Second, I dislike knowing that David created the aliens as we know them. It seems rather anticlimactic. It's not a bad movie though. It does have many things going for it- the cast is good, Fassbender is amazing, the movie's beautiful. Character actions feel less dumb than Prometheus, *mostly*. I do understand the difficulty though; to make an Alien movie feel fresh and keep people happy. High hopes for Romulus!
11:59 A Quiet Place is the movie you're thinking of. I associate that sound with that movie, as well.
i love this movie so much and ill defend it until the day i drop
THIS I couldn’t agree more
I think what people didn't like is was the human factor involved in the creation of the Xenomorphs. David was a human creation, then Alien indirectly they also are so.
I guess for many the idea of "a mysterious parasite species" was better.
People are shallow. That's the answer to your question as to why they don't like these 2 movies.
Bro it was established that he was a villain in Prometheus why were you surprised ?
I never understood the negative criticism this film and Prometheus received. I just feel like they went over people's heads. That is to say, the people who who viewed them negatively were simpletons. Maybe I'm being unkind. Maybe. But that's how I genuinely feel.
Simpletons did not watch this movie. Simpletons WROTE this movie.
A lot of the haters, not all, but a lot seem to be Aliens fans in particular who wish it was just humans vs bugs. But there are people who have legitimate gripes with the writing choices regardless of lore direction.
40:48 Thing is, its probably not the general public that didn't like it. For the most part, when i spoke to ppl who were just casual fans, they loved it and though it was a good scifi horror. But the issue came down to fans who were already questioning the value of Prometheus, and then the Alien franchise has an extremely opinionated fandom. Here are a few reasons why people disliked the movie at the time. (I personally loved it Btw)
- Killing off Elizabeth Shaw off screen. An off-screen death can be annoying, and for the fandom it was really irritating to them to see a character they were hoping to follow more of, be dead just like that
- David essentially engineering the Xenomorph... Many of the lore *experts* and devout fans felt like it was a bit of an insult to have David be the one to basically create them. (Although to be fair, fans didnt quite understand that it wasnt David who made them, he just helped speed along the process... But most people can't critically think and make that distinction)
- There was a lot of criticism about the look of the Xenomorph, specifically that there wasn't as much practical effects like the original films (Which once again is quite stupid, considering the visual effects were quite good compared to something like Alien 3, which had horrible CGI)
- There was a lot of criticism about character choices. Often times fans and critics will call out 'Stupid' decisions made by the characters of a movie. In Covenant, there were decisions made hastily by characters and many people felt like the ppl were just being stupid.... (Once again, I'd argue the people in Covenant were far less qualified to deal with the situation. They were just colonists, looking for a planet to establish a settlement)
Infact, the characters in Prometheus were a little more stupid since technically there were actual scientists on the team. The crew of Covenant were just regular travellers, looking for a place to live.
These are some of a few different critques made by fans. I would say a lot has to do with unrealistic expectations, overly critical opinions, bandwagon opinions, and unfair judgment of the story and characters. I'm not saying people don't have the right to have an opinion, but i think that in the case of Alien: Covenant It was ALOT better than people gave it credit for. At least if people were to be a little more objective, they would see that movie added alot more to the Alien franchise. Its a shame ppl had to criticize it to death and make it seem like it was the worst. It was far from the worst movie in the franchise. But that's what happens when you live in an era where everyone has an opinion :P
What I feel like would be nice to have - would be having a promise that we are getting a flashback to Shaw and David and her death and transformation - in a third movie. Like this off-screen death is great for the suprise and tension of the actual movie plot of Covenant - but it would be nice to have some things finished in a proper manner.
It's kinda the same thing with Prometheus, where the whole movie lost a lot because of all the scenes with Engineer talking with the crew got cut.
It turns intriguing sci-fi that wants to debate some philosophical questions about human origin and meaning of life itself, into a regular monster-mash. Covenant at least does it better with how David is depicted in it.
Also for me personally - it always read as Aliens always existed, it's just that David unlocked and found them again. Kinda like broken DNA of Engineers created life and humans on Earth - the idea for Xenomorph always was locked within the black goo. He didn't invent the wheel, he found what was lost, with some extra improvements.
Its such an underrated movie. Great ending plotwist
This movie is phenomenal and feels so slept on
Overhated movie
I hope Romulus drops little Easter eggs to at least some of the world building that Prometheus did.
Fantastic movie.
Prometheus I recall also had negative reviews because it "wasn't an Alien movie" and I think ppl felt like it was false advertising because the whole point was to "explain" the origin and purpose of the Alien, but it left people only with more questions (that and basically retconned alot of established lore in-comics of the series).
Covenant meanwhile got panned for "caving to criticism" by making this a more traditional alien movie. Also I think alot of people were dissatisfied with what happened to Shaw and how, while this movie gives us a potential explanation of the alien (aka David created it experimenting with the virus and human DNA), it also answeres borderline none of the questions Prometheus left us with (such as the engineers potentially already knowing about or having created the xenomorphs before-hand).
They’re pretty haphazard for scientist
Hated it when I saw it but after a rewatch I see the vision. This movie is kinda underrated. Hope we see David again at some point.
The general public didn't like this film because they were trying to see an Alien movie in Prometheus and Covenant, while the underlying theme and structure was more like Blade Runner -- God's creation sets out on a journey to see their creator. When they finally meet the god, they ask: "Why you created us?", "Why did you make us this way, mortal?". But the creator doesn't give them satisfactory answers, so they kill the god. You see. It's Blade Runner. They should have tried to see the underlying theme instead of the Alien trope.
This movie is so underrated! For me it’s a great movie!
I think it's a good movie. Perhaps the fans didn't like the retcon that the Xenomorphs were created by David. I can understand because I always felt it was better for them to remain mysterious. To a certain extent it's still a mysterious species because we don't know where the Engineers got the pathogen from.
It’s popular to hate on films in modern media, and so much of the Alien franchise has been recycled and obviously the sequence with the Neomorphs in Act II drew a lot of ire, but I for one very much enjoyed the film. I think it was an excellent lore building entry into the series!
i loved this and Prometheus. I think it may have to do with just how well loved Alien and Aliens were and how badly received 3 and 4 were that people had higher hopes. Additionally people heard prequel and hoped this one would have connect immediately to Alien which we do/dont cause it def takes some years before we get to the time period of Alien. Love your reaction and how excited you were with this one. I saw this in theaters and was probably the only hyped one in there [wasnt that many ppl in there tho so thats expected]. Are you gonna try to get the Alien popcorn bucket too?
IF.... if they had kept these separate from the original movies, they would probably have been received better. side note, it was nice to see mcbride in a serious role. and fassbender nailed his parts perfectly.
Don't worry, you get two Michael Fassbenders for the price of one.😂
I love this movie! It’s so ridiculous how much hate it’s gotten really. Imo it’s one of those movies where if you go into it without knowing/expecting too much &/or know how it’s received by others…you’ll enjoy it sooo much more! It’s really just frustrating when stuff like that happens…also, when it comes to such movies, I often find that the most outspoken and hard core haters are the ones that tend to get all butt hurt when “their” version/original version of certain story beats and lore are changed/altered/retold in some way, as if they wrote/created the shit themselves 😅🤦♀️🤷♀️I mean like seriously…get over it my dudes! As imo if the original person that came up with the plot &/or origins or just lore in general is the same person who is now altering it or framing certain things differently like Scott has done here…who the hell are you to be upset or offended to the point that you are basically refusing to accept the new lore…are you really a fan? If the man says that this is the story…it’s the damn story, stfu!😂😉👍
I loved this movie, especially the ending. I don’t get the hate. The only thing I found frustrating was that there wasn’t a sequel directly off of this ending.
I really wish Alien Romulus was based on the Alien novel River of Pain it explains exactly what happens to the colony on LV 426 Before Ripley and the marines show up it would have made an excellent movie perfect blend of action/Horror and sci-fi
I have a feeling there was meant to be a movie between this one and Prometheus, because there's a lot of concept art that expand more on Shaw and David and the questions left behind by Prometheus. Don't take my word for it, it's just a vague notion that I remember, but I think that had something to do with the negative reaction. Honestly, it's one of my favourite Alien movies. Really felt like a return to form. But people wanted more Prometheus and less Alien from what I remember.
I actually like this movie BUT them scrapping what happened in the previous film just felt weird I definitely wanted more time with Shaw she felt like our new Ripley, and the whole faith and meeting your maker was actually very interesting to me. I also have a love hate with the ending but the moment when you realize it’s David instead of Walter because, she only talks to Walter about the cabin at the lake so until that’s revealed we are just assuming it’s Walter is definitely a “oh shit” moment.
18:27 I agree don’t get me wrong the chest bursting is cool but seeing it burst out of the guys back literally made me uncomfortable 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I haven’t seen Romulus yet but I’m rewatching them in chronological order and so far Covenant is definitely my second favorite. I can’t say it’s better than Alien. That one still is the best. But I’m excited for the new one I should be seeing it this week.
Their problem is they're unable to recreate the Ripley affect. No Ripley, no alien sequel
Never hated this movie. It was way better than Prometheus imo.
It is one of my favorites, but I didn't like they killed Elizabeth Shaw offscreen, I wanted more story about the engineers etc. Nevertheless I do like this movie for what it is, again one of my favorites
I absolutely love this movie!!!!
Weyland-Yutani is a large conglomerate interstellar corporation largely concerned with weapon research and development. If I’m not mistaken they also handle the human colonies outside the solar system.
This one is my favourite of the franchise.
I think the this movie, and the Prometheus lore is awesome as hell! Romulus was also really cool! 😎 🤘🔥
I just want to point out that the bladerunner movies and the alien movies take place in the same universe 😅
No. They aren't.
I agree and it pisses me off they cancelled the third prequel following this movie
Great horror elements and David being the villain, but this movie did such a disservice to Prometheus set up, Shaw being killed off screen, no answers from The Engineers world, and the pointless ProtoXenomorph back in that other planet.
NO HELMETS ON FIRST ENCOUNTER WITH A FOREIGN PLANET
💙💙💙RIDLEY💙💙💙SCOTT💙💙💙
Prometheus and Covenant are good as stand-alone movies, but by trying to give answers they ruined the mystery of the original Alien, thus rendering Giger's iconic creature less scary, unknown, and well, "alien".
This was a much better movie than rated. I didn't love the idea of killing off Shaw and having David create the xenonorph, but it doesn't deserve some of the criticism.
This was the movie that made me stop listening to the Internet regarding cinema, it's full of fools.
This is a brilliant movie, it's well made, produced and acted, a genuinely scary Alien film, back to the Sci horror vibe.
After Promethous I was confused as that's a good movie with Covenant it just confirmed that online discourse was just muppetts that know nothing about movie making.
Loved this movie. I wish they added the fight between the Neomorph and Xenomorph from the book.
I've asked countless people why they don't like Prometheus and Covenant over the years and I can never get a clear answer from them
It seems to just boil down to they don't actually understand the movies and they wanted something more like AVP just action no story