How Rose Kennedy Reacted to JFK Assassination
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2013
- In this clip, the University of Virginia Miller Center's Barbara Perry discusses how Rose Kennedy reacted to the assassination of her son, President John F. Kennedy. This interview is part of the Miller Center's American Forum series. You can watch the entire interview at millercenter.org/scripps/archi....
I'm 73 and a younger person once asked me why people make such a "big deal" out of JFK's assassination. I thought a few minutes about this and realized that he wasn't being crass, it's just that he was born into a world of such daily violence. I explained that back then, acts like this came as a shock to us as a society...and so it began. Isn't that sad?
It is terribly sad! I agree with you.
Profoundly sad.
No. I actually find way more sad, that your gen just accepted it. And kids today, think oh yeah, today? Assanitation? Politicians in islands in kids..that's freedom.
I think perhaps it was just that kid. Most kids now would be shocked if their President or Prime Minister was assassinated. That is a traumatic event, aside from the amount of gun violence prevalent in society today. Our head of state is a stabiliser, whether we are for their party or not, and when violence takes that away it feels personal. I think the biggest changes to come to pass is that individuality matters more than the collective in the minds of people today and young people are not taught about civics from a young age anymore, so they don't have an understanding of how we can come together and make society work.
that's not true at all. he was the victim of gun violence. so was his poor wife who was sitting beside him in the car. MLK, Malcolm X, RFK, Medgar Evers and thousands of poor black people who were murdered, raped or lynched. don't tell your son it's more violent today. it isn't. it's just the killers have bigger more deadly weapons. when the POTUS can be murdered in broad daylight in front of hundreds of people the secret service failed miserably
There is not a word to describe when a parent loses a child....It has to be a parents worst nightmare.
I lost two sons I know how terrible it is to hear the news on the phone or in person fill all that pain I still do
@@emilieruiz7543 May your sons rest in eternal peace...
@@emilieruiz7543 that's sad very hard to lose a child,my sister lost her little boy. May your son's be with Jesus
"A" child...sadly she lost several, Joe Jr. JFK, Bobby, Kathleen all died before she did, and her one daughter Rosemary was permanently mentally incapacitated from a lobotomy. I have an Aunt who I've not seen in a very long time, she was the mother of six, but three of her children have long since passed away, all very very young, her oldest was 20 when he died, one son was stillborn, and her other son died at age 1.
Lost her 2 sons in five short years highly distinguished serving our country, for the people wanting equal rights, conserving resources and wanting to take down organized crime. She lost her oldest also while serving our country in a horrific explosion.
May they RIP. Such a strong lady.
I'm glad that Rose heard the news from Bobby.
He was slowly getting her ready for it. Did she not have a TV to watch world news ? I guess not. Her husband likely kept her away from it, afraid she may find out he was a philanderer.
What are you talking about? Her husband was in a wheelchair and couldn't talk
Definitely. Poor Bobby had to hear it from Hoover.
I remember that day like it was yesterday. Coming home from school and my mother crying uncontrollably.
I was 16 and remember it well. Right after school, I went to the nearest newsstand and bought the headline paper, which I still have. It was in huge red letters. Saw my dad later that evening who said, “well, that’s one way to get a man out of office”.
My mom had died suddenly the year before and since nothing compared to that tragedy for me, the death of Pres.Kennedy had zero affect on me.
Me too. My mother came to collect me from school and it was the first thing she said to me and I was only five but because of her face and voice that memory has stayed with me. And this was in New Zealand when I was 5 years old!
Yep, but I remember being in school and it was reported to us by our teacher.
@@A2D4your dads comment made Me lol
I remember this day very well. I was in second grade, in Catholic school, when the Mother Superior came over the intercom to say that we were to immediately report to the church (next door to our school). We were all to pray for President Kennedy, which we did. Our mother came to pick us up, and the ride home was so serious and somber - I remember looking at people in their cars and seeing them crying. Very sad day in America and in each of our small worlds.
And the sad, sad coverage on the TV.
The news reporters. The funeral. The shooting of Oswald.
She said herself in an interview as she was about to turn 100 that the lasting anguish of her life was Rosemary’s lobotomy. Even though it was essentially the decision of the monster she was married to, her lifelong guilt and regret was soul crushing.
Teddy said it himself, his mother (they never called her mom or mama), had a heavy right hand. She was accomplished at not discussing awful things. It's called denial. How she survived her husband and sons infidelities, Rosemary's lobotomy and tragic deaths of 3 sons who knows.
Her massive faith in GOD, still so unimaginable to suffer so much tragedy
And the loss of a daughter-
I remember reading years ago, while she was still alive, that when Rose Kennedy went to charity dinners, she demanded to be paid a lot of money for her presence.
She had severe depression for years because of his unfaithfulness and no support from her family. She tried to leave her jerk of a husband and her father was very callous about the situation too and didn't support her at all.
@@SR-iy4gg Ironically, Honey Fitz was a womanizer, too. But, if the women's rights movement had happened at the time, and it if weren't for the Roman Catholic Church, she probably would've divorced Joe.
We cannot judge where we have not been. From my point of view, Rose Kennedy was a remarkable woman to have withstood all the tragedy that befell her.
It's remarkable to disown two of your own daughters. In fact, it's INHUMANE
@@theblakex since you’re spamming everyone, who’s the 2nd daughter? And for the record, Rosemary became a part of the family again and was visited regularly after Joes death (the lobotomy for which HE was responsible and kept from the family AND rose)....
@@DINOLOVER6717 Aw bullshit! We're you there? All you women know about the Kennedy tragedies is what you read in the National Inquirer and those bullshit books that money grubbers write! That is why there's so much literary bullshit out there because the Kennedy family have endless bad episodes surrounding them. And you women who love gossip never run out of things to say once you waste your money on this crap!
@@theblakex She definitely didn't disown Rosemary. She visited Rosemary and there are pics online with other family members. Get your facts straight.
@@vincentlussier8264 What crap? Dinolover6717 is right. Rose visited Rosemary and there are pics online. She was never left out of the family so get it right.
Rose came from a generation that was submissive in the marriage and not question her husband about anything. She was very religious, and was taught to devote herself to her spouse, children, faith and home. She had more than her faire share of heartache in her life.
101% FALSE.
She actually tried to leave her husband in the early days when she found out he was unfaithful. Her father wouldn't let her stay and told her, "You made your bed. Now lie in it." She suffered severe depression and contemplated suicide because of her husband's callous behavior. Did you know that he not only was having affairs for decades, but would even bring some of his mistresses home for dinner and she was just supposed to accept it? She certainly didn't just "submit" because that's how she was raised. She had no support from those around her to help her.
@@SR-iy4gg - My maternal grandmother was her age, but from London. She would tell us about the thinking of that period. Women were chattel. They had no rights, they were the property of their husbands. She said women were supposed to accept their husbands did them a favor marrying them and making them “respectable”.
Rose told Jackie, “look the other way and have babies”. That’s no life, even if you are wealthy. Disgusting really. Husbands come home and sleep with their wife, often with child, as Rose was many times, after he’d been with God knows who. How disrespectful, exposing the wife to social diseases. Same for JFK and RFK. I read that Jackie’s last infant death was due to an STD infection. Quite possible.
The Lord Jesus said, the kingdom of heaven is like a net thrown into the sea,
which collects fish of every kind.
When it is full they haul it ashore
and sit down to put what is good into buckets.
What is bad they throw away.
Thus it will be at the end of the age.
The angels will go out and separate the wicked from the righteous
and throw them into the fiery furnace,
where there will be wailing and grinding of teeth. Matt 13.
Totus tuus
@@khoalam888 - That was todays sermon.
I think Rose was very soft even romantic young women, but her husband was so harsh and cold, that Rose must protect her soul and therefore create a wall against tragedies. Otherwise she could not have lived through. Poor Rose. Life was very hard for her.
Good insight
I am sure peharps the tragedy of her son’s dead ,her life was great , i am sure , before this all happened
@@fernandadavid828 although Rose was a miser she was also a devout Catholic.
@@shahrulamar5358 how do you know Rose a miser?
@@joinjen3854 I read some books about Kennedy family when i was still in high school during late 1980s.
I like the Kennedy family. But it's NOT like Rose Kennedy wasn't already used to family Tragedy when she lost her son President John Kennedy. Rose lost a daughter Katherine in a plane crash and son Joe Jr. in WW2 when his bomber plane blew up too soon with him inside it. Still more tragedy to come with her son Bobby killed and Ted Kennedy chappaquiddick incident. . Plus in the 1920's Rose husband was bedding Silent screen movie star Siren Gloria Swanson. Rose sure lived through a ton of sorrow Dying at 101 years old.
She lived so long because of genetics and she was a cool cucumber, retreating to her catholic faith for comfort. In this case, religion is a good thing. It kept her composed. She never worked a day in her life as she had servants for everything. She just produced kids her husband was determined to prop up to the top, no matter the cost or conditions.
She lived to be 104
She also lost rosemary to a botched lobotomy.
What about their daughter Rose Mary? Yea the daughter they kept hidden. Also Gloria was not the only movie star he had affair with.
rakesfunnyfarm they actually presented rosemary to the queen. Unfortunately they had a botched lombotomy and then kept her in Wisconsin at a facility to care for her.
Even with so much evidence around, still there are people who claim that evil does not exist.
Rose lost 4 children!!! How just how did she survive?? And she died at 104 years old God have mercy
What likely made the loss of her son John even more tragic for her was that she had already lost her eldest son, Joe Kennedy jr. in the second world war. She would go on to lose her son Robert just under five years later.
I'm amazed by how strong this women stayed despite the things she had to live through.
Strong? Strong would have been to protect her oldest daughter.
what they did to Rosemary was unjustifiable and a disgrace...but I love that they brought JFK into the World...he also did good things for disabled people like his sister...there's always heroes in villainous families.
A strong woman doesn't disown TWO of her own daughters
@@meganmcclaygamer3272 man shut up. it was joseph kennedy who did it and she didnt know
They don't make them like that
These days. Her generation went through the loss of family
Through the war and after and
Still lived with dignity.
Our generation are an embarrassment to them.
We get hysterical over a big. Flu. The west has lost its
Backbone.
I remember those days with great sorrow. But I also remember the courage of both Rose & Jackie. RIP Mr. President.❤❤❤
Maybe the worst tragedy Rose ever suffered was the constant and public betrayals by her husband with so many other women.
Just because her husband was unable to speak clearly didn't mean they couldn't talk.
Teri Wright writing notes and pointing out excerpts in books, newspapers, etc. they could have learned sign language. Tough all around though.
Teri Wright...or hear...like Rose or a tv broadcast
I expect they did not touch, had no exchange of warmth or sensations. He had sex with her to reproduce. They were partners in a sanitized relationship , buffed up to appear elegant and classy. He was making and selling illegal booze and he was right in there, competing with the mafia. How classy is that ? She had the detachment you see from head mafia guys. They ask no questions while enjoying the luxury their husbands businesses bring. No difference.
Rose would let Joe Sr. Know she new of his affair after he had that severe stroke and could not speak.
How did she react to death of Mary Jo Kopechne?
Jackie fell completely apart which is understandable. Rose's faith carried her...
Jackie the one hit em! We know now🤷🏿
@@modernvintage3226like I said.... it is understandable.
@@modernvintage3226 Why do you propagate such idiotic Bullshit? Stfu.
@ Theresa Gib you STFU
@@modernvintage3226 "The one hit em"! WHAT?! That doesn't even make sense!!!!
With all the conspiracy theories it's easy to forget that a Mother lost a son, brother/sister lost brother, Children lost their father and Wife lost her husband, This video if definitely a stark reminder of that!.
She endured so much.
As someone who lost a young son , it is not “ dignity “ and “ poise “ , it is gutting shock
I'm so sorry. 😢
Amusing how she portrays the marriage of the Kennedys as a "normal" loving relationship.
Mr. Johnson: I agree; how dare she describe their marriage as a
" normal, loving " one; that is unless that description can be applied to one wherein the husband brings his various mistresses home to dinner with the wife . I give credit to the various positive things many of the Kennedys did, but bu the same token I call a spade a spade . In other words, lets call Joseph P. Kennedy what he really was : a lying, cheating, rum running, philandering fuck !
Patricia Hardaway Joe made his fortune off of bootlegging, then off of crooked politics. He was also a serial philanderer, despite pretending to be a model Catholic. The way he mistreated his daughter was typical of his desire to shield the family’s political reputations, regardless of the price.
@@sjpavur : dont know why you chose me for your reply; having lived thru these times and being a voracious reader and curiosity seeker, I was already very much aware of these stories and agree wholeheartedly with your assessment of Joe Sr. Perhaps you can point out the statement that I made with which you disagree !
@@patriciahardaway7520 who said they were disagreeing with you?? It sounds like they're in agreement.
Dear Alphabet Soup : apparently there was misunderstanding on all sides . There us enough disruption in the world for me to be a part of it, whether intentionally or not . Foea t nisunderstandunf I apologize to any and all who were offended !
It’s not a curse when tragedy isn’t random.
Sometimes it’s not poise but shock that a person has after huge, tragic loss. You go numb as a kind of self-protection from the truth, almost a form of denial. When I learned my husband had died in a mountain climbing accident I just kept saying “NO!”over and over again.
you cherish your kids while they are alive, after they are dead it's too late. She was always absent.
Dear Family, God Bless you all during this Christmas season...
Everybody grieves different RIP Rose Kennedy
They were a flawed family with great achievement and potential born out of that difficult competitive upbringing. The father's sins became the sons' weaknesses as well, but the intelligence and political competence JFK and RFK showed when we needed it was truly the best thing about them. Morally flawed? Yeah, but like all tragic heroes in literature, the complexity does not diminish them as leaders in the best sense of the word. It makes them human.
Trump also!!
@@marylynmartin9513 Please do not speak of that narcissistic conman and traitor in the same breath as the Kennedys, who served their country honorably.
Rose Kennedy was a pillar of strength, as was Jackie. Jackie didn't break down until "Hail to the Chief" was played.
And We do not know that. We were not there
Maggie Mae Jackie’s breaking down when Hail to the Chief was played is there for all to see on footage of the funeral.
@@maggiemae7749 plenty of people were there. Moreover, it's on videotape.
@@irenemohan but that's ONE clip. How do you know she didn't break down BEFORE that??? You don't!
@@dallasbrubaker6054 that's ONE moment. Not the whole funeral. And I'm sure she "broke down" in private long before Hail to the Chief was played!! Duh.
She was in shock. What you described is nothing to want to aspire to. Holding in feelings and tears was her personality. She isn’t everyone.
she was a selfish B.... a good mother cares for them when they are alive, where has she been all their life? On vacations, leaving her kids alone, disowned her 2 daughters, never went to the hospital for 3 weeks when John was sick and almost died. Awful mother
I grew up around different members of the Kennedy family...my Nan worked for a family for 40 years and they are more family to me than my siblings and even my own dad. when my nan passed Joan never left my side...she was from a noble family herself and she is a concert pianist...and she's the funniest 'aunt' you'd ever want...one of my favorite memories is her saying I wish EVERYTHING tasted like chocolate. The family had every other family scandals, infidelities, rumors, love, pain, right, wrong....I will say this. They know what's afforded them by just their name...they have nice homes and nice things BUT, they were never ridiculous...they loved to swim, boating, football, they didn't own anything that was impractical. Most felt the sense of duty to the least among us...which is a very Catholic saying...but, when your last name will guarantee a success for a cause or fundraiser...if they believed in the cause they were all in...and they would work and invest and think....they had compassion, they didn't see themselves as elite or above anyone else in accomplishments. Ted was really good to my Nan...he was an ass to his wife...and one of the kids....Rose and I have the same birthday. When Nan first started to take me to work they'd joke and say is this another one of Bobby's? He died long before I was born but, Bobby was a Catholic...he had a million kids in his short life. Bobby was my favorite...and I read his quotes and sadly, I know his pain.
It is unclear how much Rose knew or even wanted to know of the flaws of Joe sr and Jack. Rose had to deal with a lot from old Joe alone. Rose was the absolute Catholic wife of the time. My, the things she took with her to the beyond. RIP
my thoughts also.
To think that she didn't know most of, at least, her husbands weaknesses and human failings would be to believe at the same time that she was obtuse at best. She certainly wasn't obtuse and if any educated guess makes sense it would be that this stoic woman was highly intelligent and aware of what went on around her. After reading countless texts about the Kennedys my belief is that she was brought up to be a wife who was required to be a compliment to her husband, almost at any cost and a mother. In addition, she was a young, very public debutante with her father as the Mayor of Boston so she lead a public life, her whole life. Keeping a stiff upper lip and a dignified air in public was the only way she knew how to conduct herself. She was nothing if not well bred at least in the social graces.
Good points all.
Lets see we have Joe and Jack in a strange bed or two, and we have Lying Lyndon stealing elections, murdering JFK, then murdering the 35 people in the square who happened to see it, (the final total was 150 witnesses) and by reliable testimony his own sister when her loose lips got to be too much, then faking the Gulf of ton kin incident to start Vietnam, killing 50,000 and a half a million Vietnamese, causing Cambodia etc. The shorting Huberts efforts to elect his co conspirator Nixon (BOTH Nixon and Bush were at Merchisons Nov 21). Are you guys total morons or just completely ignorant of history? Watch the testimony of LBJ's 40 year lover and mother of his kid, or his lawyer, or Head of CIA logistics Proudy. Get educated and stop with this ignorant blather
Dan Pride I’m not going to get into the conspiracy stuff, but if you are going to lecture others about “history”, then you should at least be aware that the common nickname for Lyndon Johnson was “Landslide Lyndon” - an ironic reference to the extremely narrow victory in the election that won him his Senate seat. There were questions regarding possible fraud in that election.
Keep your composure in public; break down in private.
Thank you. I needed to hear something from this video today. ❤
Gosh this is heartbreaking.....
It was and is a horrific tragedy. That said, what is so great about remaining stoic and not crying or showing emotion after your own son’s murder? I am of the opinion that being able to exhibit emotion is a sign of strength and not weakness.
People from older generations were tough and they were tempered by fatality and war. People of younger generations do not possess this strength of character. This not only my opinion but the opinion of many historians and social studious professionals
What is so great about being poised. Let go if you have to, the son was just killed.
some people are so brainwashed, they have no ability to experience normal emotions. I expect it is the latter as opposed to being " poised". Just disconnected, not really with it. These are people who had their slow learning daughter lobotomized. She was getting embarrassing with her outbursts of emotions. That is something the old man could not deal with. Emotions !
@@linanicolia1363 and she only had those outbursts because she felt pressured to be like the others, just so she'd be accepted...not being able to live up to someone else's standards can frustrate anyone and, yes, they will have emotional outbursts. Why the hell didn't the family just leave her alone?
Carmen - EXACTLY!!!! Like I'd give a RAT'S BUTT" what ANYONE THOUGHT if my son/child was JUST MASSACRED!!!!
First different era. Second no matter when she lived she was a hyper controlled person. Remember lace curtain irish. The original. Naked raw emoji threat be is probably their biggest threat
People of her generation felt that showing emotion would not help anyone at such a horrible time. Her faith sustained her.
I read that after Joe had his stroke, rose fired his "secretary"
She is said to have said something like, "now, let's see about lunch"
She was getting her revenge as the secretary likely had something with the old man, Rose did not have. Reminds me of the Jewish widow who held ashes from her dead husband in her hand, saying " here is the blow job you always wanted " , as she blew the ashes into the wind. It is that kind of revenge.....Frankly no one needs a secretary after having had a stroke. They are done. Dead wood. It was not just the ability to talk that was gone.....
lina nicolia 767
@@linanicolia1363 Yep he had affair with her.
Horrible. I wouldn't been able to bear such pain over all these tragedies!!!! Strong woman!!!
Only Yahweh can give such inner strength to endure so much and so many personal tragedies and heartache..
It’s true; lost four children (bc after the lobotomy that Joe Sr requested his daughter Rosemary undergo, she was also « lost » to Rose). As a mother, I can only imagine that her faith was what kept her going. I doubt I could overcome such tragedies.
You must for the sake of other children..you have no choice.
Not ever telling your spouse bad news sounds very dysfunctional. Having a pact between two spouses to do that is just downright weird.
They lived in different times and the relationship dynamic was very different.I had aunt's and uncles who treated each other with extreme politeness, and good manners Distant but with plenty of respect.
Kinda on this subject.....Lady Bird Johnson.....when you drive anywhere in the USA..and see wildflowers growing along the highways.... it was Lady Bird Johnson's project while she was First Lady . A little History thrown in.
Think they were Texas Bluebonnet
The call with Johnson (it's on youtube) isn't all that poised. She basically blows him off. The Johnsons do all the talking and she says "thank you, goodbye." They keep talking, she says "thank you, goodbye." and hangs up.
She knew Johnson was behind the killing. JFK never like Lyndon and he was put on the ticket to get Texas to vote.
One of the most dysfunctional families who uphold a public persona at the expense of their mental health. It seems like a false front, a mask was put in place to give the appearance that all was well when it wasn't. Maria Shiver, I believe, talked about going to aunt's home after the funeral to celebrate birthdays of the kids. And yet nothing was said about what happened earlier in the day. It's like emotions were shoved under the rug; they either didn't exist or weren't considered important enough to talk about. In any case, it was denial of hurt or pain that might make them seem weak to others. So, without the natural grieving process of weeping, how can someone actually cope? I think the suppressed energy comes out in other, sometimes unhealthy ways. So, Jackie gravitated to someone rich. After which it seemed that her standards took a dive when as Jackie O., she would go on buying sprees without regard to how much she spent. Then she kept a lover-companion without regard that he was married. Was Rose an enabler to Joe's affairs which could have set the stage or mindset for JFK to have same personal values, beliefs, and behaviors as his father?
Great analysis!
I do know that that family, especially Joe Sr., was obsessed with image. I remember either reading a Kennedy centric book or a documentary and apparently, Joe Sr. told JFK after he got in trouble for joking around at his boarding school that, "It's not what you are, it's what people think you are that really matters." (I'm paraphrasing).
When Joe Jr. died, they"grieved" very quickly and they were back to playing touch football and enjoying their lives as if they hadn't just lost a member of their family in such a horrific way. They acted as if they were robots, not human beings.
I do think that JFK had developed a sex addiction because of the resentment he had towards his mother. All his life, she was rather cold and distant towards him, especially when he needed her the most when he was in and out of hospitals. He was starved of basic human affection and genuine love and it showed with how he operated later on in his life. In some of his affairs, he looked for a companion to do things you'd think a parent would do. SUch as picking his mind when it came to his day job, helping bath him, playing with those rubber duckies in a bath, etc.
Friends of his often said that it was like you knew him, yet you knew nothing about him. He didn't ever really let anyone in and that also could've been a reaction to the fact that he never had a healthy, genuine relationship with either of his parents growing up. He grew up in a home where perfection was to be expected and there was no such thing as frequent "I love you," or physical affection is given. It makes sense why he would not only keep folks at a distance but that he would try and find that within others.
Most families keep their dirty laundry hidden. That's nothing new or strange.
@@jordanwashington1854 you didn't know Joe Sr. You're just speculating.
We DO NOT KNOW THAT about Jackie,.
@@marilynwillett804 Do you believe Jacqueline Kennedy married Arie Onassis, the wealthy Greek shipping magnet, for love?
She went back to the compound and was alone...she has a huge family? I would think that one of her kids, grandchildren, or servant could have been there. My mother did not cry when she lost family members as well. She was composed just as Rose...but it was because of her cold and stoic nature. This was not a good quality in my opinion. I do not know her, but based on this historian’s characterization of Rose, I would dare say I have an idea what she may have been like. It is sad, and we all react differently to loss, but tears and expressions of sorrow are normal and healthy.
Her grandchildren were little kids and didn't live in Hyannis Port. Her children didn't live there either. She went to her room to be alone. Servants wouldn't have wanted to intrude while she was grieving.
She was mature. People die. You can't argue with time or change it. She has seen things happen in her life and knows the unexpected will continue to happen. That's life.
No oarent should ever have to bury their child. She buried 3 boys under tragic events. So sad.
And one daughter.
The greatest tragedy of John F. Kennedy's assassination
Unbelievable, such composure
Some of us are trained to be poised at all costs. Then we suffer more and longer🙏
My parents lost a child, my brother. Rose Kennedy lost four children. A fifth was butchered at the behest of her husband Joe. She didn't know about Rosemary's lobotomy until after it happened. Let's also not forget his affairs. I'm glad she had 26 years as a widow. While I'm sure she missed her husband her life was much less stressful.
Except there was Chappaquiddick in 1969, where Ted left a blonde woman to drown. It was months after that Joe finally died, knowing his dream of having 3 sons in the White House was extinguished.
Joe Kennedy had a stroke in 1961 and was wheelchair bound and unable to speak for the most part for the last 10 years of his life.
Utterly alone is a beautiful peaceful.and honest way to be..I prefer it.
I wonder what their responses were to the news of RFK?
Just because her husband couldn't speak to HER, doesn't mean she couldn't speak to HIM! Just because he had a stroke, doesn't mean he couldn't still think and feel sad about his son dying. What weird behavior to act like just because he can't speak, there's no reason to talk to him.
It was a major plot with Johnson involved if not the ring leader 🧐
johnson, bigger dirt bag than kennedy
@@apolinary29 get a life.
I think Trump did it with Lyin' Ted's dad.
@@apolinary29 Q agrees with you. JFK Jr will be the next vice president of the U.S.. Hallelujah!
@@kevincorcoran6493
You are badly misinformed Kevin.
After raising the Child with great devotion to the point of perfection, then suddenly within matter of seconds all that effort becomes nothing but illusion, it disappeared in a thin air without slightest appreciation, because the One who was willing to appreciate - does not exist anymore. This is the time where believing in God and having Spiritual background discipline helps and comforts much more than any thing else which is designated for Mankind. This is what I call - an agony and disappointment in full capacity. God bless Her Soul and The Soul of Her Son The President Of The United States and His Mother in severe pains, who became an eye witness Her own Children Graveyard - the worst tragedy ever!
Haters are missing the point. Mrs. Kennedy was a total class act.
Like a mafia wife.
a zombie or a class act ? which ?
@@italiang8470 Uh, NOOOOO!!!!
and that is good because...?
@@slouberiee Some of us know that our family is looking to us for strength, and if we break too much in public, they may have a more difficult time of it. When my dad passed I was so broken, I cried myself to sleep for months. I did it in the privacy of my bedroom with only my wonderful husband to comfort me. And when he passed I drew on that time to get me though his loss all alone. Believe me, if people want proof of a mother's heartbreak they had only to look at Mrs. kennedy's face. She was destroyed.
I was just 2year Old that day 😭
I don't know whether Rose Kennedy is a strong woman of faith or a plain cold hard ass. That her sons had poor attitudes toward women can be placed on Joe Snr is something you would be hard pressed to argue with, but this woman just comes across as so emotionally aloof here that it's scary. I don't think it's denial. She comes across like this in other interviews as well.
Glenn Wheatcroft Obviously her husband's infidelities bothered her as it would have anybody. Some women respond in the same way.
Others internalise it becoming super religious,works of charity or pouring love and devotion on their children.And others withdraw from people emotionally. Rose appeared to have become the latter.
She was asked by a reporter how she felt about JFK dying.
You could see the revulsion,disgust, surprise and hurt that flashed across her face at this stupid and insensitive question.
She was obviously a very private person and like any mother including
Mary the Mother of Christ deeply wounded and anguished on the death of their children.
So today we pray for her and others who were and are betrayed,dishonoured and discarded after a devoted life to others.That God will comfort them with His,Peace,Love and Joy forever.
@@richardrodrigues783 I wonder what would've happened, had Rose chosen to divorce, given the Church's prohibition of divorce?
well,, regarding cold hearted/// there was NO warmth or happiness in that woman.
@@richardrodrigues783 That reporter who asked her that question should have been given two shots.
@@richardrodrigues783 When Jack was hospitalized and near death at one time in his youth, she never visited him. He always said that it was his father who was the most loving to him.
Rose was cold. JFK was quoted as saying "My mother never hugged me."
Some families handle emotions differently. My family is the same. No hugging or "I love you" but I know the love is there. Doesn't mean she was "cold".
It's completely normal and even healthy to show emotion...It's not at all good to keep it in...it will do more harm than good..
Gave one child a Lobotomy ,,,,class act
Joe did that behind Rose's back. She was hit with much tragedy throughout her life, but Rosemary's lobotomy hit her the hardest. It amazes me with all that her husband had done she stayed married to him, but back then Catholics frowned on divorce. Joe told her Kathleen's death was a result of her being a divorced woman in a relationship with a married man. And then she had to take care of him in the end... unbelievable!
Virgil : read a book or 20; it has been a well publicized fact that Joe Sr. had poor Rosemary lobotomised for the ugliest of reasons: he was afraid of how her behavior might impact upon the 'great Kennedy name and hence their political success in the future . That's why I have ZERO sympathy for him ! Whatever suffering he experienced after his many strokes , in my opinion, cannot compare to the suffering experienced by Rose, Rosemary, not to mention his relationship with underworld figures probably being a large causation factor in the death of his son, JFK and likely Bobby as well .
things werent like today ffs, the Knowledge wasnt there . thats what was done
The Lobotomy of Rosemary Kennedy
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Rose didn't give anyone a lobotomy you dodo. The doctors did that and they had no idea what would happen.
You know I think my life is a happy life and most of you do also. What appears t be glamour is not. They can have it
Agreed..but we need those to SERVE in Public Life and there is no one who is serving God has not placed there
Who can endure the constant scrutiny..what you do what you look like.. What you eat
Whay you said.. out of context
Who you were with
Perhaps the only quiet time is in the bathtub or on the toilet
I do not blame Harry and Meagan for saying goodbye to that lifestyle..
God Bless all who are in Public service..
One mors thing ..putting young talented children in movies etc..is a form of exploitation.. A Bad environment Hollywood etc
For any amount of money
Has wrecked lives of many
Some good..some great harm
Many children having wisdom and the knowing to take their money leave it for education
God Bless and protect Amen
I imagine Rose was used to be alone and not communicating with Joe, they usually swept things under the carpet this was nothing new.
I live in the same town that she has been in. GO WISCONSIN ST COLLETA
Very powerful !!!!!!
I think she really leaned on her faith.
Is there any footage or audio of the first reports of the incident in the senate or HOR?. I can't seem to find any. Were either of those houses sitting that day?.
They both were in session. As a matter of fact, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, then a freshman senator from Massachusetts, was presiding over that body when his brother was shot.
But were the sessions broadcast LIVE to the public via radio/TV?. Do we know HOW teddy K. found out about the shooting.?.
You must be aware that in the old days - prior to the 1980's - congressional proceedings were not broadcast live, as it was a violation of the law at that time. That also applied to any court proceedings. That law was rescinded sometime during the 1980's.
A longtime congressional aide whose name escapes me at this moment saw the first news of JFK's shooting via the newswire tickers. After receiving that news, he went into the Senate chamber and informed Majority Leader Mike Mansfield and Minority Leader Everett Dirksen of the shooting. Then, after realizing that freshman Senator Edward Kennedy was at that moment the presiding officer of that body, he approached the rostrum and informed Sen. Kennedy that his brother the president had been shot. Kennedy immediately excused himself and left the congressional floor. The Senate adjourned for the day very shortly thereafter.
This is taken from an NBC Radio broadcast on Nov. 22, 1963. This can be found while listening to several lengthy NBC broadcasts from that day. I managed to isolate this clip and posted it to RUclips. In it, the person who informed Teddy that JFK had been shot describes the circumstances. ruclips.net/video/-S_nofc9Zwg/видео.html
She could have shared the tragedy of the assassination with Joe Sr; he just wouldn't be able to talk. He was devastated too, losing a 2nd son, and had to suffer incommunicado.
Rose was a better man then LBJ!
No mention of the fact she had already endured the lost of her eldest son (Joseph P.) during WW2. 🤷🏼♂️
My goodness... does not bear thinking about
How much heartache can one mother take?
Her husband Joe certainly knew exactly what happened… must have been torture on the father, knowing that he may have helped to cause the assasination.
So sad
Rose Kennedy survived this life on one thing..........................PRAYER. God Bless You Mrs Kennedy. RIP
+Sean Patrick With a cheating husband who made his fortune on bootleg liquor and securities speculation, and a passel of children who had the morals of alley cats, she did not have much alternative.
She was truly an amazing woman. I agree
+Sean Patrick How she made it to age 104 only God knows. She lost three children and endless other tragedies. She gave an interview around 1984 (on PBS if I remember right) and had a lot more spunk than most 94 yerar old did.
+Mark Muffs In fact, she lost FOUR children (Joseph jr, Kathleen, John & Robert)
Thats true.
They were good people who were not perfect. Let those who are without sins cast stones. Judge not so that you are not judged.
I have learned elsewhere that Rose learned of the shooting when an attendant to her husband saw it on the TV news and started shouting. Rose, who was concerned about the racket's effect on her husband, reprimanded her and asked why she was shouting. The attendant then told her.
Also, how does the woman in this clip know what Rose did when she went into her room by herself after she learned that JFK was dead? Did she learn this from reading Rose's memoirs, etc?
josnaz1
That’s the story I’ve always heard too. In fact I think it was one of Joe’s cousins that was hired to be the nurse.
The way this woman knows what Mrs.Kennedy did was she spent a couple of years going though 145 boxes of Roses writings, diaries, ect for a historical bio on Mrs Kennedy.
pookiebear364.
She would learn not too much from all of Rose Kennedy's Diaries, journals Etc. Rose Kennedy would not devote her private thoughts to writing, unless they were the private thoughts she wanted to be remembered as having thought. Rose Kennedy was more conscious of public perception than any of the Kennedy's but for one, and appearances were above all other rules.
As much as we admire Jackie Kennedy for her devotion to raising her children, Jackie was Rose Kennedy's equal in this regard.
josnaz1 That's what really happened. Not what the woman being interviewed said. Thank you!
I think Joes sr nurse was having an affair with him. I saw it in a documentary. Rose knew of it. Joe Sr always felt he never
measured up to his Ivy League classmates. He had a chip on his shoulders. Actually he bought all of the books Profiles in Courage to send it to number one on the NYTimes.
Ask the secret service. Rose Kennedy was a pain in the ass!
The horror!
Dark days.
Nice of LBJ to apparantly have some knowledge beforehand, and then telephone Jack's mother afterwards. #
He is pretty much universally disliked and with good reason.
Rose Kennedy knew she was talking to one of the people who killed her son
Yes..reportedly Johnson was involved..according to His mistress..yes he too had a mistress
These men cannot control themselves
They have wives..why marry
Character COSTS
IT IS A GRAVE SIN
UNCONFESSED BRINGS JUDGEMENT
Proverbs 6:27
“Can a man take fire in his bosom, and his clothes not be burned?”
Poor Rose.
Her husband was a bad guy but she was a good woman such a horrible thing that must have been for her:(
She willingly accepted the bad in return for financial security and materialism. She wasn't the first to do that and she won't be the last
@@tidefalcon1631 She did not. She wanted to leave her husband but her parents said marriage is for life. Stop making up your own crap.
@@HowieHoward-ti3dx The funny thing is that Honey Fitz was a known womanizer as well.
@@benschlechter Never heard of that one!
Gostaria que as matérias fossem traduzida , obrigada
Funny I translated your comment with ease
IT IS NOT GOD'S WILL THAT ANY SHOULD PERISH ....BLAMING THE WRONG ENTITY.
The voracity of the arms industry knows no bounds, as dollars flow in staggering amounts into the hands of the mighty industry of death. The hasty search for new production contracts by the US reflects the urgency with which it sees the situation in Ukraine, but it is also a sign of the great economic and political interests of the arms industry and the political class. I share the opinion of the journalist Nelson del Castillo, these elites prefer a scenario of prolonged war and will continue "promoting" the conflict to "feed their bank accounts, while humanity is subjected to inconceivable instability."
USA is Violence
Obviously you don’t know that every country in the world produces arms. America is the only country where their citizens have the right to defend themselves from not only thugs and criminals but also from tyrants and dictators. This is why we are free and the rest of the worlds citizens are dictated to and controlled.
Her FAITH.🙏💞💖
Hello how are you doing?
great lady rip rose
She didn't raise her children.
jlbpr00 who did?
The nannys
BFD
jlbpr00
I concur. In contrast with J K-O who did a great job.
Hamida Sanford Their team of nannys and servants.
Wow, can’t express feelings and emotions = can’t be human. Must have been s self contained prison for their family.
I listened but there is so much static that you can't understand what is being said.
Faith in God is what made Rose Kennedy such a remarkable woman.
Really? Do go on.
@@davidcattin7006, you would not understand.
@@adamandrews4107 That's rude. You don't even know me.
JFK's assassination was a worldwide chock but who think about the assassination of innocent people walking on the street when shot by gangsters as al capone or lucky marciano's right hands ? I don't think violence is higher nowadays.🇫🇷
I once saw her interview of the assassinations of both her sons, when talking about JFK it was she was poised and spoke on it, but when asked about Bobby she couldn't speak about it.
You've never heard her speak of Chappaquiddick. I know that when that happened, Joe Sr., just gave up on life by refusing medication and nourishment, which lead to his death.
Rose was a cold person and had an awful relationship with her kids
Rose had a very deep faith which carried her through every tragedy she faced throughout her life. Joe was a dreamer scammer. He found ways to become wealthy from start to finish. Rose was not involved in that part of his life. Patrick, Joe’s Father, had a pub and then prohibition began. Joe began bootlegging then and had links to the underworld. He approached those contacts when JFK ran for the Presidency. That seems where the link to JFK’s demise began. Robert was obsessed with breaking them up and they were not happy about RFK’s quest. Rose probably did not know too much about this... But she certainly had children who walked to their own drummer and lost many in the end.
Your picture of Joe Kennedy is limited. He made his money in many different venues as a businessman. He ran a bank, he was in shipyards, he was even a Hollywood mogul distributing and producing motion pictures. And finally of course he was in the stock market, which led him into government. He ended up being the first regulator of the stock market for FDR and the highest rank he attained was Ambassador to Great Britain before World War II.
In all those pursuits he made a lot of money, in addition to what allegedly you're talking about. It's okay to discuss a person in history, but don't limit them to what just you know about, when obviously, you don't know much.
Who was Robert (RFK) obsessed with breaking up? Lyndon and JFK??
@@aimforlifenow The mafia
I thought this would be a reaction bideo
R.I.P. 🥀MR. PRESIDENT 💔YOUR SUCCESSOR WAS COMPLICIT 😢
Maybe it was karma. She was a rotten person. Her husband and her were the perfect match. Neither had much decency.
You following me Penelope? You are misinformed. I hope the karma (you should know you just used a misnomer) you just assaulted the very folks whose homes I grew up in...flawed, beautifully flawed human beings...the way God made us...to remind us of his promises...its our very flaws that we have that we learn that sometimes there is no one to trust but our creator. Shame on you for making such a statement. When the use of the word "karma" is used in the way you just misused it...THAT is more likely to ricochet back to the person that misused karma (philosophy) in a way that you did...it's more a kin to a HEX. Look up hex. When someone says they were hexed...the only way a person becomes hexed is when they do it to themselves. Take heed an learn that when you speak...it becomes something real...good or bad...you just spoke something into being. God spoke the world into being...first was the word. Although we do not have that kind of love and eternal knowledge to grasp anything close to understanding God and his reasons...when we speak...we become accountable for what we say.