It's a bit unfair that they're asking these really intimate questions about Peter with Bryan right there...Rachel and Bryan should be celebrating, not fixation on the past :(
Rachel, the most intelligent, well-spoken, classy, educated bachelorette this franchise has ever had. She chose a man who right from the start, pursued and consistently expressed he wanted her the most. I have no doubt these two are joining the exclusive club of bachelor nation couples that last.
Very well said. Bryan and Rachel consistently demonstrate that they as a well matched team are Bachelor Nation's outstanding couple. May God's richest blessings be their constant companions.
I am disappointment with ABC, they could have made us fall in LOVE with Bryan as much with Peter since that is who she choose. After watching all of these interviews today I am frustrated because I didn't like Bryan either but I feel ABC portrayed him that way. Obviously he's something different than we saw.
AK Sonya It's what I was thinking too. Rachel even said that they had a lot of conversations but it was never really shown. Probably the portrayed Peter the way they did because they're trying to pitch him as the Bachelor.. Who knows honestly.. I hope Peter finds love outside a reality show.
GG Stylequeen; Worst...Ryan Seacrest read only one fan letter to Bryan and Rachel when they were on his show and it was about Rachel being in love with Peter and choosing Bryan only after Peter turned her down. Poor Bryan looked embarrassed but tried to play it off and so did Rachel! Ryan Seacrest looked smug as a bug knowing what he did was shady as hell!
I love how Bryan says that he didn't need Rachel to cry for him to validate the love that they have. That Statement really shows how loving and confident he is as a man. I love this couple, wish them all the best!
Ughh Bryan and Rachel hang in there. People will question your love but they don't know your relationship. Congrats on your engagement. I'm rooting for you two!!! 🌹
Peter made it clear from Geneva, that he was NOT going to propose, if he was NOT ready! At the HTDs he repeated the same thing.( HE even said so to Rachel's mum and Bryan) He reiterated that in Spain! No way was Peter manipulative! You could have sent him home you had the choice!!!!
Bibi Omololu exactly! I feel she's just trying to make herself look good by throwing shade at peter but giiiirl WE watched the show u know we know what he said
Bibi Omololu ITA. Rachel had every opportunity to send Peter home...She was the one giving out the roses. He was consistent in telling her that he WAS NOT THERE YET. But kept him anyway. Please don't lay the blame at Peter's feet.
I have to say Brian comes across really well here. He really seems to genuinely care about Rachel and his answers were so classy and respectful. Go Brian!
I can see why Peter would seem confusing to Rachel -the push and pull she mentions in interviews. He ran warm and cold. From the first date when he mentioned having gapped tooth babies, then he started to have doubts after he wasn't given the rose after the hot tub. Then he told her he wasn't going to propose and in the end she did not want a repeat of her past relationships that never went beyond boyfriend/girlfriend. So Rachel chose differently this time. What is the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
A lot of emotionally butt-hurt fans of the show and of Peter are being incredibly illogical and rude towards Rachel merely because she didn't choose him (or is showing confidence in choosing someone else)? Did you all lose bets or something? Peter signed up for a show that he's been wanting to be on since he was in high school, over 12 years ago. He knowingly went on a show that is famous for ending with a wedding proposal, but then halfway through his journey and connection with Rachel, reveals that he doesn't like that idea? That is a red flag, plain and simple. I like Peter, and thought they had a great connection, but he's not right for this kind of dating format. She's dead right about that, and she had every right to lose faith in Peter because of his inconsistency on the whole concept.
I'm sorry but WTF, are you guys seriously throwing Rachel for a self absorbed manipulator like Peter, he was like have a mediocre life without me, no dude you were the mediocre choice that's why she didn't chose YOU. If this was any other women you guys would be on the bachelorette side. I called weeks ago that Peter wanted to become the bachelor and was playing a game. Would she have chosen Peter if he proposed maybe, is she lying that she would have sent him home maybe, but ladies if a guy humiliates you like that and your man are you not going to stand up for your man and your relationship instead? Rachel said from the beginning she wants to keep it 💯. Which she is doing and now you all are upset? She came there for a man ready to commit and she really did have strong feelings for Bryan. We all have a guy like Peter who manipulates us and stings us along. She did the right choice of choosing a man. And yea you go girl for calling him out on the final rose. Because if he had strong feelings for Rachel and couldn't propose why would he do it for someone else on his season? He would be contradicting himself smh. It just breaks my heart how everyone is turning on Rachel for being a strong women and standing up for what she wants and not playing a fool. And also Bryan this must be hard for him. I hope these two make it through and prove all the haters wrong. ❤️❤️
While I get why so many people were siding with Peter (and to be honest I'd be on the same page as him if I were in Rachel's position), it was SO obvious she was crazy about Bryan, more so than Peter in my opinion. I don't get all the hype.
CaraLovesGram I think it was obvious that she wanted to be with Peter the whole time, no matter what she is saying now. Unless they edited over 50-75% of her time with both Peter AND Bryan, anyone with a sound mind, who has been in a serious relationship, has decent observational skills, ANY intuitiveness, a heart and a freaking brain, could see she was the most crazy about Peter more than anyone, by leaps and bounds! She had the most fun with him, the most chemistry, the most in common. She GLOWED when she was with him. When he asked her if she wanted it to be him, she just cried harder and said, “You know I can’t tell you that,” which she wouldn’t say on camera, anyway, but she definitely wouldn’t have been crying about it. AND, the most obvious (and HUGE sign everybody seems to miss) is, WHY WOULD SHE BE SO INCREDIBLY UPSET ABOUT PETER NOT BEING COMPLETELY COMFORTABLE WITH PROPOSING THE NEXT DAY?!?! If the tension and passion between them isn’t enough to convince you, explain that! If she had really gone with the intention of breaking up with him, she would have just DONE IT; there wouldn’t have had all the back and forth. Remember: The issue they were arguing about was why he didn’t want to propose, so no, it would not be considered a breakup, because if he’d said he was 100 percent ready, he would be in the Final 2!!
Thats one thing I learned the hard way and seeing Rachael be this way is encouraging to me. Ladies. BE DIRECT. Dont be stupid. Rachelle put her life on hold to find a husband and for her match to propose and one day get married. If peter didnt feel like he could propose then just leave it at that. Dont say you cant propose, then say you will propose as a sacrifice, then say you want a future with her then the day before say 24 hours isnt enough time to figure out out. BRUHH. Yall forgot racheal is intelligent. Yes we love Peter but he did say she would have a mediocre life. Peter you had your chance for 9 weeks! Just let it go.
What I don't understand, is that if she already knew she was picking Bryan, which she said she told him she was in love with him in the fantasy suite, and she already had her mind made up, why was she pressuring Peter to do something outside of his comfort zone. What if he really did propose to her and then she's like nah, my heart is with Bryan. I just feel like she was being very selfish trying to make him do something he wasn't ready to do even though she already had her mind made up for another man. It just seems weird. Am I the only one?
I think you're twisting around what actually happened... She was merely confused with him and his conflicting statements, and was wanting clarity, and he wasn't helping her understand, because he obviously had trouble explaining it himself. That is called mental/emotional manipulation, when you state two conflicting statements or concepts, but you fail to help explain those things to the other person. He knew she wanted clarity, but he wasn't willing to give that to her... That would hurt anybody in that situation. It's not "pressuring" someone to ask for clarity and wanting someone who claims to be falling for you and seeing a future with you, but not willing to answer simple questions. Anyone who is the Bachelorette or Bachelor is entitled to be selfish. It's the whole premise of this show is that you get to hurt at least 24 other people on the way to making yourself happy! Rachel didn't come up with this show's premise, she merely accepted the offer of being given that opportunity. It's silly the kind of hate she's suddenly getting, and t's so catty...
I totally agree, if she is being honest that she already knew she wanted Bryan, she must have wanted Peter to propose so that she could say no and save face for not being the one who is rejected🙄
I certainly didn't mean to come across catty or hateful toward Rachel. I love her. I was just confused. For me, it was clear. He felt he loved her, but only wants to propose once - he clarified that while he did see it happening for them in the future, he just wanted to live in the real world outside of the show.. give it a chance there, get to know one another better.... and then be 100% ready to propose..... It's all good. i'm not hating. i didn't read any of the comments - didn't realize people were hating. So sad.
Have you ever been in an emotionally abusive relationship or observed a love one who has? The abuser first creates distance, conflict and confusion. The other person distances themselves from the abuser. Then when the abuser realizes they are losing control or influence they say or do something sweet or romantic to lure the other person back in... to make you think/hope that they really do love you. Unfortunately, for lots of people, those relationships are like drugs. They know they are bad for them but, they go back. They repeat the cycle with different people. Rachel knew she wanted Bryan from day 1. But, Peter was that painful, frustrating, yet comfortable and familiar cycle/drug she was accustomed to. Who knows what was said in the unedited portion of their fantasy suite date? This was Peter's third go at the Bachelorette. 2015 he said he was nominated for Kaitlyn's season. 2016 he said he applied for Jojo's season. 2017 he said ABC called him for Rachel's season. He knew the premise of the show. He also knew that the easiest way to become the Bachelor was to be in the top 3 of the Bachelorette. High school yearbook dream fulfilled!! "Become famous one way or another, be on the Bachelor". Lots of women drawn in by the salt and pepper hair, hazel eyes and tight body are lapping it right up! He is a "former international model, and celebrity trainer" with a two-year degree in dietetics. With his new found fame he may model again. His personal training clientele should increase too. Anyway, best wishes to them all!!
Congratulations, Rachel and Bryan. You two look really happy and I wish you nothing but happiness, and blessings. You 2 make a beautiful couple and are living the reality of the modern couple. Stay strong and ignore the haters because love defeats hate. I watched your journey and as Rachel repeatedly said there are important parts we did not get to see due to editting. Byran looks so much cuter in person, than on tv. You go girl. You picked the right one.
Daaaamn, she is saying all the things I picked up on weeks ago my mind is blown lool. I said Peter was always giving her just enough to keep her interested and get as far as possible while keeping a distance yet persisting to put seeds of hope and then doubt and mess with her head. I'm glad she woke up and saw it for herself cos a lot of us who DIDN'T worship blindly at the Alter of Peter could see right through him very early.
She's being hard on Peter, honestly. I think he was the only "normal" person there, not ready to propose after 8 weeks while your potential fiance is dating others the entire time you are together. He's practical and real. He was not manipulative, he was true to his feelings week after week and Rachel kept choosing him. I'm glad her and Bryan are happy, but don't be mean to Peter for being true to himself.
In Peter's high school yearbook he literally wrote that he wanted to be on The Bachelor. Truth be told, he didnt want love he wanted a contract to be the next Bachelor. Peter would have strung her along for 5 years with no commitment. He was manipulative he played the game and played it well. Rachel made the right choice. Rachel said that Bryan is her best friend and that is exactly who your spouse is supposed to be. Rachel wanted and deserved certainty and she found it in Bryan. Im happy or her.
Stop criticizing her life. You don't know their relationship other than on TV. Don't be so sure of who Rachel really is, look at your own lives and stop judging hers and her decisions. Your not in her position so GET OVER IT
What really trips me out...your interview should be about Bryan and Rachel. If you're going to focus on Peter and Rachel. You should ibtervue Rachel by herself..you are totally disrespecting Bryan.
"I don't understand why he felt attacked" 2 minutes later: Did it feel good to tell him you were living your best life? "Oh 100 percent. It felt great!" Lol funny well as long as Rachel and Bryan are happy together ig.
Ok but we're not gonna talk about him saying that in the first place? Saying that you'll live a mediocre life if you don't pick me is okay but Rachel rightfully defending herself by counterclaiming that she's living her best life is wrong?????? Um?????????
when he told her he couldnt explain why he felt attacked, he was doing her a favor and sparing her an argument. instead of being thankful and understanding that being catty to a man who was legit just crying backstage feels like a attack shes still saying all this stuff bout peter
True. She is completely fake; fake southern personality. She is the manipulative bitch that now is sore and bitter because she did not get a ring from Peter.
The man told her she'd have a mediocre life without him but you let that slide cos his fake ass apology to look good on TV was all you needed. She was well within her rights to check him on that. No man should ever tell you your life ain't gonna be worth shit without them in it. I would not stand for that, how dare he? You Peter stans will put up with any old shit from ppl like him. And yes, "2 minutes later" does NOT indicate an "attack" *before*. He was victimizing himself like all good manipulators do. You Peter dickriding stans need to stop making yourselves look so stupid and cult-like. I pity you guys.
It must be so hard for Bryan to have to stand there and listen to the whole focus being on Peter. Just like the fans of the show ONLY focused on Peter. Rachel and Bryan should've been the focus
Ugh she's trying to play it off like she was the one that dumped Peter and like she "knew" in his hotel room that she was going to break up with him. But he even asked "do you just want to split here and now?" and she said no! She's trying to spin the narrative and make him look bad but its so easy to see through it. She comes off as cold and bitter in this interview and all the post-finale interviews and it makes her so unlikable. If she really was so "happy" with Bryan, she wouldn't be so mean towards Peter. Peter deserves better.
She is becoming just as unlikable as her fiance, why is she being so bitchy towards Peter? As if he didn't mean anything to her. Look at how she is speaking and waving her hand around now when she speaks. I don't think she is being truthful about her feelings now, she just trying to save face because we all saw the effect Peter had on her.
Exactly! She doesn't want to seem vulnerable or like he hurt her, so she's acting like she's the one that made all the decisions. It's very strange and I feel bad for Peter that she's literally acting like she has 0 feelings for him and wasn't in love with him. It's a slap in the face for him! Also, if she was really in love with Bryan she wouldn't have been so checked out and distracted thinking about Peter on their last one-on-one..
Sana Bashir,because as Rachael already mentioned,she has a hard time with goodbyes.And,even though she may have came there to break up with Peter,doesn't mean that when the emotions got to rollin that she wasn't entitled to change her mind.Ultimately the break up did happen,which is what Rachael said she had intended to do.That doesn't make her a liar in this interview,it only makes her human.
Monica Brown she didn't go there to break up with him. If she said she had every intention of ending it IF they were still not on the same page at the end of the night I would believe that but from what we can see played out she didn't go there to send him home because of being in love with Bryan, she was in love with Peter.
Rachel needs to be fair. The public only backed Peter's behaviour because of her own reaction to Peter. She said goodbye to Eric who was in love with her & ready to propose & held on to Peter as long as she could. So why wouldn't we 'back' someone based on what she displayed? What I saw as a viewer was that she was in love with Peter, but became frustrated by his inability to show in actions what he said he felt. So no Rachel, as a viewer I did not back Peter's indecisive ways, as a viewer I commented fairly on what was portrayed by the show - you Rachel in love with Peter, & torn by having to let him go. If you knew all along, why keep him so long with his indecisive ways which you were privy to from hometown? #befairtoviewers #behonestwithyourself
Jahleel Lewis this is exactly how I feel. Always been team Rachel. Watched this show for the first time bc I wanted to follow her journey. In almost every date with Peter she said their was a connection that she couldn't explain and that she really liked him. Obviously the producers sold us the love story they wanted us to see (which wasn't hers and Bryan's unfortunately) But at the end of the day I wasn't a fan of her and Peter bc he's this perfect guy that can do no wrong but because SHE seemed to really like him & want him. If anything all of the viewers were strung along the rachel & peter train and that's why everyone's having such an emotional response. I'm hopeful now that Bryan & Rachel had a stronger connection than was sold to us on the show. We really only saw them making out all the time not having very meaningful conversations that made their relationship seem deeper. I honestly think he's the MVP right now he's been really gracious in all of these interviews that only ask about Peter. I do think it's obvious Rachel has unresolved for Peter. She shouldn't deny the feelings she had for Peter. Its commendable that she's trying to be respectful of Bryan but It's making the viewers look dumb after what we all saw & heard her say. I don't think anyone would judge her for saying that's how she felt at the time & now her feelings changed. Anyway, I wish them both the best!
Shaun Winfield PREEACCHHHH! The whole break up that we watched between them was more passionate than anything else in the show including the proposal with Brian. Her and Brian lack substance and I don't know how they are going to last.
I get it Rachel! My friend had a guy who only gives hope and never commitment. Only being with my friend for the sake of it, for the sake of relationship and it dragged on for years! Until my friend said why am I still waiting for a guy who doesn't even know what he wants, who's afraid of commitment? Doesn't even know her worth and appreciate her? And that she deserves better than this! So she left and the guy didn't even make any effort to win her back! So it just goes to show that she should have left him wayyy earlier!
I also have another friend who has been in a relationship for 10 years and the guy is still not giving any clear commitment of what's in store for them in the future! And my friend find it difficult and emotional to leave him although they fight a lot because they have been together for a long time and she felt like it is such a waste and kept on waiting and waiting, since she's 19 and now she's already 29. What the hell is that guy waiting for? That guy only says when the time comes it comes. I'm literally tired of asking my friend to realize that she deserves better! I just think guys like this only held on to a girl not because he really loves her, but just to keep her hoping that he might get someone better/he likes more, and then dump her.
I like that Bryan is just cool. He isn't fighting for the spot light. She was the Bachelorette and he is allowing her to shine. Good Guy. I hope people are wrong about you Bryan!!
I totally understand why Rachel seemed harsh with Peter. I understand why she said manipulation. By the finale she would have watched the interviews, and researched the various contestants and realised that Peter really wanted to be the Bachelor. She allowed herself to develop feelings for a guy who was never there for her. He never intended to propose! He told friends that he was nominated to the show in 2015 (Kaitlyn’s season), admitted that he applied himself in 2016 (Jojo’s season), but ABC finally called him in 2017 (Rachel’s season). Peter does not need any pity. Peter did not lose! He won! His personal training business should get a big boost from his new load of social media followers. ABC has a built in fan base and story line for him “hot, sensitive, reserved salt and pepper model turned personal trainer, walls around his heart, got heartbroken, is full of regret and now believes that love can happen quickly”. He’s got thousands of women across America drooling for him, feeling sorry for him and waiting for the casting call. He is fulfilling his high school dream, “become famous in one way or another, be on the Bachelor”. Quite calculated and well played... perhaps even manipulative. He achieved his true goal!
Monique S so did Rachel go on the show specifically to marry Nick Viall? We all know the contestants are mostly cast before the lead is announced. Most of these contestants go on for self- promotion not love, because they don't know who the freaking lead is and there's 20+ contestants each season they have to compete with. Doesn't all that you're saying apply to Rachel as well. She played the 'reserved' and then became the bachelorette. she might be right or wrong about Peter, I don't know time will tell. but all she has presented is what she said she did herself on Nick Viall's season, so it seems petty and hypocritical for her accuse him of manipulation.
forgottenswtness She was open to Nick by the end. She didn't act as confused as Peter. She opened herself to the idea without so much tooth pulling. But, like you say, time will tell. Peter is definitely one step closer to his real goal.
Monique S I 10000 percent agree w/ you! & this is coming from someone who was a peter fan throughout the season. America (and I) were blind by his handsomeness and the way ppl are defending him is quite ridiculous. It's like yes peter, you're sexy but that doesn't mean you can do no wrong!!
Monique S you know what! a week ago I would have screamed to the high heavens against all what you said but I see it all clearly now. Very clearly. He made sure to be "honest" to her and her parents because he knew exactly why he was there. This all just feels cold and lifeless.
Rachel just settled for Brian. She was in such a rush to get engaged. Then she says, "Brian and I are waiting right now to get married." That's what Peter wanted the whole time. Never settle ladies!
Idk... The conversation was very cerebral. More like the Bachelorette Briefs than anything. Peter is old news, he's off leading his non-mediocre life somwhere. Peter and Brad
Clearly Lauren is a Peter fan of she was in the same situation herself what wud she do settle for guy who does not know the meaning of the word commitment . Peter needs to date 25 year olds who will tolerate his nonsense. A woman of substance does not tolerate such.
I'm a Peter fan but how immature of my fellow fanmates to attack Rachel for picking Bryan instead of Peter. Have you listened to what she said about not wanting to be in a similar relationship as the ones in her past? She had one with another "Peter" guy and they were together for almost 5 years without a ring in it! Girl don't want history to repeat itself, that's not a crime. Just let her be. It's her life, people. Not yours. Also, there hasn't been a Bachelor/ette moment where an engagement DIDN'T happen but the couple remain happy together (except maybe Juan Pablo, and he got bashed for his choice). I'm sure if Rachel had picked Peter and the engagement didn't happen, people would still be mad about that too. Can't please anybody on this Earth.
I feel like people are not listening to words that are coming out of her mouth. Imagine doing 15 interviews in a day and people asking you the same questions over and over and over; especially in front of your Fiance.
@Izzy Jordan Rachel revealed she fell in love with Bryan at the Fantasy Suite. But my guess is she was hopeful that Peter was going to change his mind and propose to her since their talk in the Alps when he said he will let her know if he's not ready; which is why she didn't send him home sooner.
Bravo Rachel! Yeah, I could see the manipulation from Peter when he conveniently told her was falling for her right before meeting her family even though he shared doubts previously. Peter was stringing her along. On the other hand, Bryan not only said he loved her but also showed it by not only the apparent ring, but also by his affection for her.
but Peter even told her family he may not be ready and that made them like him even more for being honest and sensible. I didn't see manipulation I saw honest human emotion happening between them given the nature of the situation they were in and Bryan seemed rehearsed in my opinion. They never had any serious conversations we saw and he always seemed to have the more adrenaline inducing dates and emotions that keep you in bachelorette paradise instead of the real world. Her and Peter talked about him moving for her and real stuff. Her and Bryan have yet to figure that out and I feel it's because she really thought it would be Peter. Bryan knows how to use body language and also figured out Rachel's love language is touch which he could've learned from Nick's season..and Rachel is a lawyer, she reads body language and subliminal messages..I still don't think he's completely genuine, just very experienced for lack of a better word. She isn't terribly a complicated woman. Just my long opinion lol
Bryan's eye roll at 5:28 after she asks another question about Peter... they are both so affected by Peter. I feel like if they were truly in a happy relationship with each other there wouldn't be so much defensive and petty behavior from them
Listen people! When you are TRULY happy, no one can dim your light or steal your shine. All you can do is talk about unicorns and rainbows because you are too happy! A happy couple would deflect those answers and say, "Peter was a great guy and we wish him well but we are focused on our future together now." That's all you say and you don't say anything else. All that eye rolling and saying negative things about Peter tells you everything you need to know about their so-called "Happily Every After"....let's just say Peter will end up being right about her mediocre love life. That woman was in love with Peter and Bryan is annoyed and bothered by it. R &B already had a pretty superficial relationship anyway, no way will it last under this kind of pressure...ESPECIALLY if Bryan's mom sees the finale!! LOL
casey leblanc cause they wanna talk about there relationship. They keep popping Peter. Lol the show is over, can they move on from Peter. I'm already annoyed with you Peter minions.
lupita benitez OH MY GOD! Liking comments that equate to how you feel?! Call the pope! Call the police someone! Doesnt he know its so immature to like comments.
I get that they may be tired of the Peter questions but why is she so angry that she's defaming his character. In all her confessions throughout the course of the show she only has great things to say. Now Peter is the worst guy out there? Him telling her her life would be mediocre was very very wrong but that was a highly emotional moment and he apologized graciously but her and Bryan can't seem to stop bashing him. SMH I'm just saying why is she still so angry? Then Bryan has the nerve to say 'who says that' well who calls a woman they're interested in sloppy seconds? I'll tell you what's frustrating, it's watching every interview and seeing them drag this dude through the mud, I mean he's not perfect but no one is. Probably low key defending their relationship because the masses aren't here for Bryan or them as a couple which why do they even care?
I totally agree with you, well said. It's a case of sour grapes, but Peter was ready to propose, maybe she was the one one being fake and disingenuous, had to make it good for the camera.Hope she's happy being sloppy seconds. Bryan was not in an emotional state when he said that, he was being his true self.she forgave him so easily for that.
I totally agree with you, well said. It's a case of sour grapes, but Peter was ready to propose, maybe she was the one one being fake and disingenuous, had to make it good for the camera.Hope she's happy being sloppy seconds. Bryan was not in an emotional state when he said that, he was being his true self.she forgave him so easily for that.
ian mohan she wanted everything on HER TERMS...even after he was ready to jump in to save the relationship...and take it from there. Her ego could not stand the fact that he was not 100% ready to marry her..but LOVED her nevertheless. If she really came to break up with him, which she obviously lied about...she should have come and said her peace...but she didn't. She ENGAGED HIM IN HER MANIPULATIVE CONVERSATION of going back to the subject of proposal...love etc...THAT IS WHAT IS MANIPULATIVE FOR A PERSON ALREADY IN LOVE W SOMEONE ELSE, SUPPOSEDLY...ON THE WAY TO BREAKING UP WITH HIM. How stupid does anyone have to be to not understand that. She tried HER UTMOST TILL THE END ...SHE COULDN'T PART FROM HIM...TO GET HER WAY...Talk about MANIPULATION!!
Sana Bashir Peter manipulated the situation to be the next bachelor. That's why she's defaming his character. Don't be a blind Peter fan. I love him too but he was honestly there to achieve his goal of being famous and being a Bachelor.
Rachel gave Peter a chance, she knew what she wanted before saying yes to be the bachelorette, if Peter isn't ready, he should've NOT be there. The lawyer doesn't need a boyfriend, a man & husband. Congratulations to both! Be happy forever. 😘😘😘😘
In a world where she is being attacked by most people for making her own decision...she is handling herself well. I would have been like "f&5# everybody and there momma cause its my damn decision". The interviewers are also stirring the pot and what she is saying is true; people are treating Peter like he could do no wrong and he did start the jabs below the belt. She is defending herself and her man from the vultures! If you don't like it then get over it because it is easy to criticize when you aren't in that position.
I also don't want a guy who needs me to cry and debate, analyze feelings, not sure what he wants. Every woman deserves to be with a man who absolutely adores her. Bryan and Rachel - go and make each other happy. Wishing you all the best!
Why can't people respect her decision. It was her's to make. She liked Bryan from the beginning so she wasn't settling. If he is a player, that is her mistake to figure out. Peter was no prize in my opinion. He didn't want what she wanted, and she didn't need to settle for what he was offering. All this outcry over her choice is just plan wrong. It's her's to make. I know that push and pull game that some men play, and yes you may have feelings for them, but that doesn't make them the best man for you. They don't want you when your with them, but do when you move on to someone else. I'm glad she didn't choose him. I think she is better coupled with Bryan. I wish them the best.
She never called Peter "Manipulative". She said that in their courtship there was some manipulation. To call him manipulative is an indictment of his character and she certainly didn't do that. And it's true, he manipulated by promising the possibility of a future to make to the top 2.
Peter is manipulative!! A man that says it’s me or you’ll be mediocre but I don’t want to give you want you want is a manipulator!! I’m glad Rachel saw through that!! He tried to use fear to keep her and Rachel is a direct, nonsense and comfortable with herself to not fall for that. Sadly too many women would fall for peters bs!! Congratulations RnB!!
Rachel is smart and spot on with calling out Peter being manipulative! He would be controlling and manipulative if they would have gotten together. I'm so glad she sent him packing! He never should have never come on the show....go back to his life and date someone for years...why come on a show and then know what Rachel wanted and string her along....he should have left the show if he KNEW at the end that he would not be able to propose especially knowing that is what she was looking for....they were on two different pages! Go Team Bryan and Rachel!
The fact that Peter has so much respect for the institution of marriage makes him a keeper. He told you that he may not propose and gurl you knew. Don't play the victim here. You are the one who manipulated all of us. You are a lawyer you are suppose to know how to settle. Bryan is what happens when you want everything right now and Peter is what you earn when you have patience. Anyway Rachel's ring is the same shape as the tears she's going to cry when she realizes the mistake she made.
Hmmm... This is Peter's 3rd go at the Bachelorette. He told friends that he was nominated to the show in 2015 (Kaitlyn’s season), admitted that he applied himself in 2016 (Jojo’s season), but ABC finally called him in 2017 (Rachel’s season). Why accept the call to be on the show? But, some know why...to get to be the bachelor!
Tina just because you are on the bachelor or bachelorette doesnt mean you have to get engage. A ring on your finger is not the fundation to build something that have to last for centuries. How many people on the show got engage and broke the engagement. Some of them are almost 4 years engage. Peter is realistic. He loved Rachel. He was in love with her. The emotions proves that he was. There's no reason for her to keep attacking him. Peter will be a great bachelor the first that goes to find real love.
Simply, Rachel and Peter had different visions about their future and what marriage means to them. They both seem okay and Rachel looks happy with Brian. I hate how people just get so heated and put them against each other.
Good luck wish you both the best ,for all the ladies who is saying Rachel should choose Peter,stop choosing men that don't want you or want to commit,love is not dramatic,love should is easy .
She said that last night but here she's saying something totally different. I think Bryan is the manipulator here and Rachel's trying to save face for him. All these questions are natural after such a breakup where she had huge doubts and even questioned getting married so fast herself and if she should slow down or if it was right to be with Bryan. She couldn't even focus on him due to Peter yet, you couldn't imagine your life without him? Give me a break.. This is ridiculous lol why am I so invested!!
Rachael New what she wanted from day 1& All the guys New what they signed up for..... Soo they were all prepared for what they had to do in the End.. But Peter was totally selfish& acting like he as going to call all the shots.... Sorry Mr Peter.... & as I watched them do the push pull thin... I saw what Rachael seen in Peter, that night... Was a very insecure guy who was manipulative to wanting what he wanted& that was it..... Soo Racheal him out on it& what.... Everybody is mad because ...! She is a woman who knew what she wanted all along& she wouldn't, t allow him to play her...... Her & Bryan are awesome together..... Be happy for them... Congrats Rachaelmy ou made an awesome& right decsion❤️😊
I don´t think Peter was using Rachel any way. If he was, why would be upset. I didn´t see him insecure at all. He was real. If you think Peter was selfish so was Rachel. They both wanted things their own way.
Looool why is no one asking her why she wanted two men to propose to her? Why she cried her eyelashes for a man and then jumped at a proposal from another? Bryan was her second choice, and now she's being so rude about Peter (and lying about her feelings for him) what ever makes you sleep at night girl, we're all just here for Peter!
He told you week 7 that he was unsure about marriage but YOU kept him because YOU wanted too. He's not thr one who hands out roses so how is that manipulation? This is so off the wall and sad. Go live your best life and stop talking about Peter.
She is definitely defensive and overexplaining the break up with Peter! She still has feelings for him and he with her. But Bryan is growing on me, he's taking all this very well, it has to be tough that so much focus was on Peter
Good comments. Perhaps Peter shouldn't do the show if not able to deal with very fast, tight timeline for the show. In many cases, 2 months isn't enough time to know someone, fall in love, etc. Timeline could be expanded for doing the show but adds other complications and issues. Wishing the best for Bryan and Rachel's engagement and for Peter's future, personal and professional. May all the bad hard feelings be put away in the past moving forward.
Rachel is making no sense when she said Peter led her on and manipulate her?? She had the upper hand, she is suppose to be the smart one. If she knew this why send these other guys home and keep him? She is a big liar.
ABC totally overhyped her ending things with Peter. But Rachel said it well. She was confused because Peter was being manipulative. Also the mediocre life comment he made was something very much a narcissist would say, Good riddance!
I think bachelor universe needs to chill out. Rachel is real, she called Peter out and he didn't like it now all of a sudden no one likes Rachel. I'm sorry but Brian was a front runner since day one. Peter has been questioning their relationship since day one. I feel like it would have been fake if she did pick Peter over Brian, because they never had one bad date or conversation...personally I think Peter is fake...why go on bachelor knowing that the unofficial rule is getting married at the end. If you aren't comfortable with that, then you shouldn't of been on the show in the first place.
Why is Rachel doing that?!?!?...I get the embarrassment and humiliation on Rachels side...for the simple fact, that he possibly played her or just didn't want her like that.....But Girl, you sound so coldhearted, shady and mean towards Peter...and the fact that she is frontin' like she didn't care.. . girl please 😏
Rachel do me a favor and take several stadiums of seats, you are just bitter that he couldn't get you that ring. We all know this relationship won't last, you are out here being a lawyer and Brian is out here trying to sell his Merch. That breakup was more passionate than the proposal and you're mad about it. That's it.
JoyKimberlyy Bryans a doctor and Rachel is a lawyer I'm pretty sure they don't need the fame especially Bryan. Peter is the business owner who needs to sell his stuff
God definitely put Peter in her path to test her priorities. Even mother nature was trying to slap that ring out of Bryan's hands. Good luck to them but....i miss her and peter...i need to listen to some celine dion.
and why is that bad, she wanted a ring so the logical thing to do is to be with a guy who can give her that. you all need to stop crushing over peter and think a little
Peter could not commit. His only job was to commit. He wasn't affectionate. He was standoffish. His mom said he wasn't ready. Then he wanted a girlfriend. Duh. Most couples break up before the wedding anyway. He was being a crabby little princess. I am from Wisconsin he is a classic Wisconsin man.
Unfortunately Rachel comes over as manipulative, instead of Peter which she's accusing. Which is disappointing because now it seems they've both come with the subtle character assassination. Peter has not said anything detrimental about Rachel and now she's coming over as bitchy and unfeeling instead of assertive and forthright. Rachel claims to of seen all these signs that made her doubt Peter, and that he strung her along but kept him until the last two. Peter did not want a confrontation not that he couldn't back up his feelings, and also she can't forgive Peter for saying she'd have a mediocre life but is ok with Bryan saying she his sloppy seconds. Makes me kind of glad she ended up with Bryan
I want to believe Rachel, but we've never heard about her past relationship(s). If someone reminds you of a bad (and manipulative) ex, you DO NOT keep them for 2 months and make them your final two. At the beginning she calls him manipulative, but at the end calls him genuine. He can't be both. Nice excuse, though. Honestly, if I were Bryan, I would feel cheated on her feelings. He doesn't seem happy anymore and their body language seems off.
THANK YOU RACHEL FOR PICKING A DRAMA FREE STRESS FREE RELATIONSHIP. All the other dumbass women can cry over Peter's emotionally conflicted ulcer causing antics. Love means happiness not pain.
I believe that the manipulation of what she is saying is that Peter would say "Well if you need me to get on one knee to show that i am committed to you then I'll do it". He kept this back and forth of I want you but I dont know if I really want you and that is what she saw as manipulative. Brian has acted like a grown ass man throughout this whole process and even afterwards you dont see him being overtly jealous or misinterpreting the situation with Peter and his woman. He backs her up 100 percent in that situation and doesnt shove guilt or belittlement down her throat after watching all of it like previous winners have done. He deserves respect for that. This was 100 percent the right decision. I have gone through the situations with a man who wasnt sure about what he wanted longterm with me and on the flipside with a man who was forthcoming about what he wanted with me longterm. And that was such a breath of fresh air to be with a man who was able to clearly communicate with me what he wanted instead of doing the bare minimum because he wasnt sure what he wanted. I am happy for Rachel. Let her be happy with Bryan. It is her life and hopefully everything works out!
manipulation is when Rachel said, several times, I might add, that she was looking directly at Peter when she said "I want a proposal", then claims she knew she was going to break up with him when she went to his room. So basically she wanted to manipulate him into proposing to her so she could tell him NO, because already knew she wanted what's his name. So scorned Bryan trying to be all cool, I don't need somebody to cry for me to show him they love him. What goes around comes around - he'll be crying over somebody someday. Off my soapbox. Good luck - they'll need it. Let's revisit in 6 months
Bryan is such a lovely guy to be married to. I think one of the best in the whole world. He is so so loving and kind and is a gentlemen. No swearing ever has come out of his mouth. Just adorable. Rachel must be the best to have him. It's her heart.
He was stringing you along??? If I remember correctly, YOUR the one with the roses. If you felt so strongly that your relationship with Bryan was the stronger one, then why didn't you get rid of Peter in Geneva when he said he had doubts about proposing? Considering you dropped all these other guys who would've loved to propose to you... cough cough Eric
Okay, this is the last time I comment about this lol, but "string you along???" You said you knew he wasn't the one in Geneva, but kept him anyway. Peter is far from manipulative, girl. I think the manipulation shoe was on your foot, Rach. Ugghhh, this show and my emotionsss...okay, rant over.
Many Moon mmm, no. I think Peter was very clear about his feelings for Rachel and his feelings on marriage. And vice versa. The ball was completely in Rachel's court to send him home. Peter needed time, that's why he chose to stay. I don't think that's manipulation. I think that's vulnerability and optimism for something greater that can't be explained through camera lenses.
It's like, when you love someone and picture a perfect life together, but you know you can't rush into making that happen because it may fail. Rachel clearly stated she was not going to act on practicality, but rather act on emotion. Bryan had more romance and Peter had more logic
Put was not showI ng any signs of that crop you mention up there. If that is the case Rachel Is Smart and knew already that Bryan was it why the heck did she go on with him like that. She is the one who manipulated the situation because she knows what she was about to do.
Lauren, Zima, being that this interview focused more on Peter than the man Bryan standing infront of you with his fiance, are you going to interview Peter on his Reality Steve's podcast on what Brittnay had to say? The majority of you wanted Rachel to fall for the scammer. It show's the woman who was in the show knew what she was doing. Great job Rachel
Rachel was being manipulated by Peter and I'm glad she finally saw it. The day Peter made the comment to Rachel that he never seeks her out, but glad that she's around my flags went up on that guy. His lack of effort was a major issue for me and a warning that something was off. As the episodes unfolded week after week, Peter showed unstable emotional behaviors and head games with Rachel. Pulled her in to only push her back not caring how it affected her. As for the Peter fans, they were never there for Rachel. They're infatuated with Peter's looks and think he can do no wrong despite his hidden agenda in trying to be the next Bachelor. Rachel might not want to say it, but something tells me she's figured this bs out and just doesn't want to go all in on Peter since his fans are calling her names over this contestant who was acting like he was the Bachelor and Rachel should be chasing him. Since day one, Bryan was the best man for Rachel. I hope they block out the negative crap from the Peter fans and just work on building a strong relationship. Wish them all the best.
Yes Peter did reiterated that he could not propose that soon but he also reiterated that he did not want to loose her or give up on her. What was that?
Yeah, he was the Producer's pick, and if she wants Bryan, she has to play the game until the finale. This is a show, and story lines has to be developed until the end. But, ABC strewed Rachel, by mudding the water for her rose ceremony. They always give Peter the leg up.
Jordan G. What do you mean by 'on board' Peter always said he wouldn't propose until he was ready and if it didn't fit the timeline of the show then so be it. Ya'll are just trying to make Bryan happen, he's never gonna happen.
I would've have kept him till the finale too with those kind of kisses. Lets all be honest, Peter was by far the best kisser in that group from what we saw. U could tell by how Rach was distant to Bryan after the fantasy suite.
Rachel is exactly correct with Peter's emotional manipulation and him giving her just enough to keep her hanging on. That's exactly what my mom and I said watching the finale. Bryan is awesome and I wish them both the best!
Dammit Rachel played herself because if that was the case she should have sent him home the first time he mentioned it!! Her disparaging him is so unnecessary! She said the break up showed the true essence of Peter, no it should the true essence of Rachel because was a complete Bitch to those guys lastnight!! This interview confirms it!!
Rey S. ,um she could of been a little more ginger towards Peter,but as far as Eric,she was fine towards him.And,you're not in her shoes,soo why you judging?She picked who she wanted,that doesn't make her any more of a bitch than you one for judging her.
I agree with your comment Rey... she knew since Geneva and claims she fell in love with Bryan during her hometown date, well if that was the slightest bit of truth, she should've let go of Peter either in Geneva, knowing that he wants to purse a relationship after the show, or in Texas, knowing that her heart was with someone else. If anyone was disingenuine,anipulative and indecisive, it was definitely her.
How can you call Peter manipulative? He was very transparent about his feelings about marriage and why he wouldn't propose. I agree with Rachel that the show was probably a bad idea if that was his mentality, but if you look at the bachelor series couples success rate, it's pretty horrible and large reason is that they rush into these engagements without actually knowing how the relationship will work in the real world. So I think Peter was sensible in his mindset.
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Natasha K ikr is such a fake Bi**ch
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Can’t wait to see these 2 get married and have kids too
It's a bit unfair that they're asking these really intimate questions about Peter with Bryan right there...Rachel and Bryan should be celebrating, not fixation on the past :(
Rachel, the most intelligent, well-spoken, classy, educated bachelorette this franchise has ever had. She chose a man who right from the start, pursued and consistently expressed he wanted her the most. I have no doubt these two are joining the exclusive club of bachelor nation couples that last.
Very well said. Bryan and Rachel consistently demonstrate that they as a well matched team are Bachelor Nation's outstanding couple. May God's richest blessings be their constant companions.
Yep and they just got married!!!! So super win!
Dominique Jones yaaas 🎊🎊🎊
I am disappointment with ABC, they could have made us fall in LOVE with Bryan as much with Peter since that is who she choose.
After watching all of these interviews today I am frustrated because I didn't like Bryan either but I feel ABC portrayed him that way. Obviously he's something different than we saw.
AK Sonya exactly!
AK Sonya It's what I was thinking too. Rachel even said that they had a lot of conversations but it was never really shown. Probably the portrayed Peter the way they did because they're trying to pitch him as the Bachelor.. Who knows honestly.. I hope Peter finds love outside a reality show.
Why didn’t you like Bryan?
EXACTLY
AK Sonya They did. They do that to get us to watch. And it works. We saw what The producers wanted us to see and not what Rachel saw!!
Bryan is handling himself really well here. I like him.
This interviewer keeps bringing up Peter. Can you say awkward. She's standing there with her fiancé.
GG Stylequeen; Worst...Ryan Seacrest read only one fan letter to Bryan and Rachel when they were on his show and it was about Rachel being in love with Peter and choosing Bryan only after Peter turned her down. Poor Bryan looked embarrassed but tried to play it off and so did Rachel! Ryan Seacrest looked smug as a bug knowing what he did was shady as hell!
super shady.
I love how Bryan says that he didn't need Rachel to cry for him to validate the love that they have. That Statement really shows how loving and confident he is as a man. I love this couple, wish them all the best!
I agree with you 100% Rachel. Glad you picked someone who will love and adore you. Congrats!
Ughh Bryan and Rachel hang in there. People will question your love but they don't know your relationship. Congrats on your engagement. I'm rooting for you two!!! 🌹
Peter made it clear from Geneva, that he was NOT going to propose, if he was NOT ready! At the HTDs he repeated the same thing.( HE even said so to Rachel's mum and Bryan) He reiterated that in Spain! No way was Peter manipulative! You could have sent him home you had the choice!!!!
THIS!!! I WAS LIKE HOW SWAY!?
Bibi Omololu exactly! I feel she's just trying to make herself look good by throwing shade at peter but giiiirl WE watched the show u know we know what he said
Bibi Omololu true
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ITA. Rachel had every opportunity to send Peter home...She was the one giving out the roses. He was consistent in telling her that he WAS NOT THERE YET. But kept him anyway. Please don't lay the blame at Peter's feet.
Rachel "DO NOT PEE ON OUR LEGS AND SAY IT IS RAINING!
I have to say Brian comes across really well here. He really seems to genuinely care about Rachel and his answers were so classy and respectful. Go Brian!
I can see why Peter would seem confusing to Rachel -the push and pull she mentions in interviews. He ran warm and cold. From the first date when he mentioned having gapped tooth babies, then he started to have doubts after he wasn't given the rose after the hot tub. Then he told her he wasn't going to propose and in the end she did not want a repeat of her past relationships that never went beyond boyfriend/girlfriend. So Rachel chose differently this time. What is the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
This interviewer spent way TOO long on Peter questions. Rachel is with Bryan and wants to talk about him.
A lot of emotionally butt-hurt fans of the show and of Peter are being incredibly illogical and rude towards Rachel merely because she didn't choose him (or is showing confidence in choosing someone else)? Did you all lose bets or something? Peter signed up for a show that he's been wanting to be on since he was in high school, over 12 years ago. He knowingly went on a show that is famous for ending with a wedding proposal, but then halfway through his journey and connection with Rachel, reveals that he doesn't like that idea? That is a red flag, plain and simple. I like Peter, and thought they had a great connection, but he's not right for this kind of dating format. She's dead right about that, and she had every right to lose faith in Peter because of his inconsistency on the whole concept.
@Blake 500 GET A LIFE TROLL!!
@Blake 500 You get a life because you were the one who wrote this nasty comment 6 months ago when the happy couple were married.
I'm sorry but WTF, are you guys seriously throwing Rachel for a self absorbed manipulator like Peter, he was like have a mediocre life without me, no dude you were the mediocre choice that's why she didn't chose YOU. If this was any other women you guys would be on the bachelorette side. I called weeks ago that Peter wanted to become the bachelor and was playing a game. Would she have chosen Peter if he proposed maybe, is she lying that she would have sent him home maybe, but ladies if a guy humiliates you like that and your man are you not going to stand up for your man and your relationship instead? Rachel said from the beginning she wants to keep it 💯. Which she is doing and now you all are upset? She came there for a man ready to commit and she really did have strong feelings for Bryan. We all have a guy like Peter who manipulates us and stings us along. She did the right choice of choosing a man. And yea you go girl for calling him out on the final rose. Because if he had strong feelings for Rachel and couldn't propose why would he do it for someone else on his season? He would be contradicting himself smh. It just breaks my heart how everyone is turning on Rachel for being a strong women and standing up for what she wants and not playing a fool. And also Bryan this must be hard for him. I hope these two make it through and prove all the haters wrong. ❤️❤️
While I get why so many people were siding with Peter (and to be honest I'd be on the same page as him if I were in Rachel's position), it was SO obvious she was crazy about Bryan, more so than Peter in my opinion. I don't get all the hype.
I agree. I knew on the first night she'd pick him. So obv.
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Finally someone who can really SEE
CaraLovesGram I think it was obvious that she wanted to be with Peter the whole time, no matter what she is saying now. Unless they edited over 50-75% of her time with both Peter AND Bryan, anyone with a sound mind, who has been in a serious relationship, has decent observational skills, ANY intuitiveness, a heart and a freaking brain, could see she was the most crazy about Peter more than anyone, by leaps and bounds! She had the most fun with him, the most chemistry, the most in common. She GLOWED when she was with him. When he asked her if she wanted it to be him, she just cried harder and said, “You know I can’t tell you that,” which she wouldn’t say on camera, anyway, but she definitely wouldn’t have been crying about it.
AND, the most obvious (and HUGE sign everybody seems to miss) is, WHY WOULD SHE BE SO INCREDIBLY UPSET ABOUT PETER NOT BEING COMPLETELY COMFORTABLE WITH PROPOSING THE NEXT DAY?!?! If the tension and passion between them isn’t enough to convince you, explain that! If she had really gone with the intention of breaking up with him, she would have just DONE IT; there wouldn’t have had all the back and forth. Remember: The issue they were arguing about was why he didn’t want to propose, so no, it would not be considered a breakup, because if he’d said he was 100 percent ready, he would be in the Final 2!!
Mourning Glory delusional #Pachel fan
Thats one thing I learned the hard way and seeing Rachael be this way is encouraging to me. Ladies. BE DIRECT. Dont be stupid. Rachelle put her life on hold to find a husband and for her match to propose and one day get married. If peter didnt feel like he could propose then just leave it at that. Dont say you cant propose, then say you will propose as a sacrifice, then say you want a future with her then the day before say 24 hours isnt enough time to figure out out. BRUHH. Yall forgot racheal is intelligent. Yes we love Peter but he did say she would have a mediocre life. Peter you had your chance for 9 weeks! Just let it go.
What I don't understand, is that if she already knew she was picking Bryan, which she said she told him she was in love with him in the fantasy suite, and she already had her mind made up, why was she pressuring Peter to do something outside of his comfort zone. What if he really did propose to her and then she's like nah, my heart is with Bryan. I just feel like she was being very selfish trying to make him do something he wasn't ready to do even though she already had her mind made up for another man. It just seems weird. Am I the only one?
I think you're twisting around what actually happened... She was merely confused with him and his conflicting statements, and was wanting clarity, and he wasn't helping her understand, because he obviously had trouble explaining it himself. That is called mental/emotional manipulation, when you state two conflicting statements or concepts, but you fail to help explain those things to the other person. He knew she wanted clarity, but he wasn't willing to give that to her... That would hurt anybody in that situation. It's not "pressuring" someone to ask for clarity and wanting someone who claims to be falling for you and seeing a future with you, but not willing to answer simple questions. Anyone who is the Bachelorette or Bachelor is entitled to be selfish. It's the whole premise of this show is that you get to hurt at least 24 other people on the way to making yourself happy! Rachel didn't come up with this show's premise, she merely accepted the offer of being given that opportunity. It's silly the kind of hate she's suddenly getting, and t's so catty...
I totally agree, if she is being honest that she already knew she wanted Bryan, she must have wanted Peter to propose so that she could say no and save face for not being the one who is rejected🙄
I certainly didn't mean to come across catty or hateful toward Rachel. I love her. I was just confused. For me, it was clear. He felt he loved her, but only wants to propose once - he clarified that while he did see it happening for them in the future, he just wanted to live in the real world outside of the show.. give it a chance there, get to know one another better.... and then be 100% ready to propose..... It's all good. i'm not hating. i didn't read any of the comments - didn't realize people were hating. So sad.
Have you ever been in an emotionally abusive relationship or observed a love one who has? The abuser first creates distance, conflict and confusion. The other person distances themselves from the abuser. Then when the abuser realizes they are losing control or influence they say or do something sweet or romantic to lure the other person back in... to make you think/hope that they really do love you. Unfortunately, for lots of people, those relationships are like drugs. They know they are bad for them but, they go back. They repeat the cycle with different people. Rachel knew she wanted Bryan from day 1. But, Peter was that painful, frustrating, yet comfortable and familiar cycle/drug she was accustomed to. Who knows what was said in the unedited portion of their fantasy suite date?
This was Peter's third go at the Bachelorette. 2015 he said he was nominated for Kaitlyn's season. 2016 he said he applied for Jojo's season. 2017 he said ABC called him for Rachel's season. He knew the premise of the show. He also knew that the easiest way to become the Bachelor was to be in the top 3 of the Bachelorette. High school yearbook dream fulfilled!! "Become famous one way or another, be on the Bachelor". Lots of women drawn in by the salt and pepper hair, hazel eyes and tight body are lapping it right up! He is a "former international model, and celebrity trainer" with a two-year degree in dietetics. With his new found fame he may model again. His personal training clientele should increase too.
Anyway, best wishes to them all!!
I think that was a straight out lie she told about having already made up her mind
Congratulations, Rachel and Bryan. You two look really happy and I wish you nothing but happiness, and blessings. You 2 make a beautiful couple and are living the reality of the modern couple. Stay strong and ignore the haters because love defeats hate. I watched your journey and as Rachel repeatedly said there are important parts we did not get to see due to editting. Byran looks so much cuter in person, than on tv. You go girl. You picked the right one.
Daaaamn, she is saying all the things I picked up on weeks ago my mind is blown lool. I said Peter was always giving her just enough to keep her interested and get as far as possible while keeping a distance yet persisting to put seeds of hope and then doubt and mess with her head. I'm glad she woke up and saw it for herself cos a lot of us who DIDN'T worship blindly at the Alter of Peter could see right through him very early.
Whoopdewhoo exactly to me it was apparent from the first few dates he was cold and distant the whole time, im confused what everyone else was seeing
He was so cold and distant even when he kissed her. He was manipulating and people never got off his dick long enough to see that
Peter is a narcissist ?.? They love to play hot and cold and push and pull.and are very manipulative.
She's being hard on Peter, honestly. I think he was the only "normal" person there, not ready to propose after 8 weeks while your potential fiance is dating others the entire time you are together. He's practical and real. He was not manipulative, he was true to his feelings week after week and Rachel kept choosing him. I'm glad her and Bryan are happy, but don't be mean to Peter for being true to himself.
Yo how uncomfortable for Bryan. Feel bad for him.
Maz Walker omg same !!!!
Maz Walker If Bryan can't handel Rachel his mother will!
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In Peter's high school yearbook he literally wrote that he wanted to be on The Bachelor. Truth be told, he didnt want love he wanted a contract to be the next Bachelor. Peter would have strung her along for 5 years with no commitment. He was manipulative he played the game and played it well. Rachel made the right choice. Rachel said that Bryan is her best friend and that is exactly who your spouse is supposed to be. Rachel wanted and deserved certainty and she found it in Bryan. Im happy or her.
How rude to keep asking about Peter...bad journalism.
This woman couldn't stand Rachel. Her interview questions towards Rachel were always disrespectful. Chris Harrison's current fiance.
Stop criticizing her life. You don't know their relationship other than on TV. Don't be so sure of who Rachel really is, look at your own lives and stop judging hers and her decisions. Your not in her position so GET OVER IT
Why so many questions about Peter. He's history. Show some respect to Bryan. I wish them the best.
I didn't need her to cry for me... so powerful. Bryan is the man.
I love how Bryan handles the interview. Rachel chose the right man. Congratulations to both
What really trips me out...your interview should be about Bryan and Rachel. If you're going to focus on Peter and Rachel. You should ibtervue Rachel by herself..you are totally disrespecting Bryan.
Totally
"I don't understand why he felt attacked"
2 minutes later:
Did it feel good to tell him you were living your best life?
"Oh 100 percent. It felt great!" Lol funny well as long as Rachel and Bryan are happy together ig.
Lola K right ! Lost so much respect for her
Ok but we're not gonna talk about him saying that in the first place? Saying that you'll live a mediocre life if you don't pick me is okay but Rachel rightfully defending herself by counterclaiming that she's living her best life is wrong?????? Um?????????
when he told her he couldnt explain why he felt attacked, he was doing her a favor and sparing her an argument. instead of being thankful and understanding that being catty to a man who was legit just crying backstage feels like a attack shes still saying all this stuff bout peter
True. She is completely fake; fake southern personality. She is the manipulative bitch that now is sore and bitter because she did not get a ring from Peter.
The man told her she'd have a mediocre life without him but you let that slide cos his fake ass apology to look good on TV was all you needed. She was well within her rights to check him on that. No man should ever tell you your life ain't gonna be worth shit without them in it. I would not stand for that, how dare he? You Peter stans will put up with any old shit from ppl like him. And yes, "2 minutes later" does NOT indicate an "attack" *before*. He was victimizing himself like all good manipulators do. You Peter dickriding stans need to stop making yourselves look so stupid and cult-like. I pity you guys.
It must be so hard for Bryan to have to stand there and listen to the whole focus being on Peter. Just like the fans of the show ONLY focused on Peter. Rachel and Bryan should've been the focus
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Without question
Ugh she's trying to play it off like she was the one that dumped Peter and like she "knew" in his hotel room that she was going to break up with him. But he even asked "do you just want to split here and now?" and she said no! She's trying to spin the narrative and make him look bad but its so easy to see through it. She comes off as cold and bitter in this interview and all the post-finale interviews and it makes her so unlikable. If she really was so "happy" with Bryan, she wouldn't be so mean towards Peter. Peter deserves better.
Exactly! If she went there to break up with him why did she say no when he asked? Why did she say she can't say goodbye when she was leaving?
She is becoming just as unlikable as her fiance, why is she being so bitchy towards Peter? As if he didn't mean anything to her. Look at how she is speaking and waving her hand around now when she speaks. I don't think she is being truthful about her feelings now, she just trying to save face because we all saw the effect Peter had on her.
Exactly! She doesn't want to seem vulnerable or like he hurt her, so she's acting like she's the one that made all the decisions. It's very strange and I feel bad for Peter that she's literally acting like she has 0 feelings for him and wasn't in love with him. It's a slap in the face for him! Also, if she was really in love with Bryan she wouldn't have been so checked out and distracted thinking about Peter on their last one-on-one..
Sana Bashir,because as Rachael already mentioned,she has a hard time with goodbyes.And,even though she may have came there to break up with Peter,doesn't mean that when the emotions got to rollin that she wasn't entitled to change her mind.Ultimately the break up did happen,which is what Rachael said she had intended to do.That doesn't make her a liar in this interview,it only makes her human.
Monica Brown she didn't go there to break up with him. If she said she had every intention of ending it IF they were still not on the same page at the end of the night I would believe that but from what we can see played out she didn't go there to send him home because of being in love with Bryan, she was in love with Peter.
She handled this interview with such honesty yet still being quite tactful. I don't understand how anyone could find anything to hate on
Why are they getting so much hate for their honesty?
Rachel needs to be fair. The public only backed Peter's behaviour because of her own reaction to Peter. She said goodbye to Eric who was in love with her & ready to propose & held on to Peter as long as she could. So why wouldn't we 'back' someone based on what she displayed? What I saw as a viewer was that she was in love with Peter, but became frustrated by his inability to show in actions what he said he felt. So no Rachel, as a viewer I did not back Peter's indecisive ways, as a viewer I commented fairly on what was portrayed by the show - you Rachel in love with Peter, & torn by having to let him go. If you knew all along, why keep him so long with his indecisive ways which you were privy to from hometown? #befairtoviewers #behonestwithyourself
Jahleel Lewis TRUR
Jahleel Lewis this is exactly how I feel. Always been team Rachel. Watched this show for the first time bc I wanted to follow her journey. In almost every date with Peter she said their was a connection that she couldn't explain and that she really liked him. Obviously the producers sold us the love story they wanted us to see (which wasn't hers and Bryan's unfortunately) But at the end of the day I wasn't a fan of her and Peter bc he's this perfect guy that can do no wrong but because SHE seemed to really like him & want him. If anything all of the viewers were strung along the rachel & peter train and that's why everyone's having such an emotional response. I'm hopeful now that Bryan & Rachel had a stronger connection than was sold to us on the show. We really only saw them making out all the time not having very meaningful conversations that made their relationship seem deeper. I honestly think he's the MVP right now he's been really gracious in all of these interviews that only ask about Peter. I do think it's obvious Rachel has unresolved for Peter. She shouldn't deny the feelings she had for Peter. Its commendable that she's trying to be respectful of Bryan but It's making the viewers look dumb after what we all saw & heard her say. I don't think anyone would judge her for saying that's how she felt at the time & now her feelings changed. Anyway, I wish them both the best!
Jahleel Lewis thank you!!!
You have your 'love' right? Why so salty?!
Sweettie this isnt necessary..
Jordan G. She could be gracious.
She's Speaking HER truth...not Yours!
Wendy Pastore She WAS gracious.
Shaun Winfield PREEACCHHHH! The whole break up that we watched between them was more passionate than anything else in the show including the proposal with Brian. Her and Brian lack substance and I don't know how they are going to last.
tishainaaa Is she salty or is she answering the questions at the interviews she has signed a legal contract to attend? Sit tf down
I get it Rachel! My friend had a guy who only gives hope and never commitment. Only being with my friend for the sake of it, for the sake of relationship and it dragged on for years! Until my friend said why am I still waiting for a guy who doesn't even know what he wants, who's afraid of commitment? Doesn't even know her worth and appreciate her? And that she deserves better than this! So she left and the guy didn't even make any effort to win her back! So it just goes to show that she should have left him wayyy earlier!
I also have another friend who has been in a relationship for 10 years and the guy is still not giving any clear commitment of what's in store for them in the future! And my friend find it difficult and emotional to leave him although they fight a lot because they have been together for a long time and she felt like it is such a waste and kept on waiting and waiting, since she's 19 and now she's already 29. What the hell is that guy waiting for? That guy only says when the time comes it comes. I'm literally tired of asking my friend to realize that she deserves better!
I just think guys like this only held on to a girl not because he really loves her, but just to keep her hoping that he might get someone better/he likes more, and then dump her.
I like that Bryan is just cool. He isn't fighting for the spot light. She was the Bachelorette and he is allowing her to shine. Good Guy. I hope people are wrong about you Bryan!!
She has to justify why she picked Bryan. She was in control she should have sent Peter home her fault.
calamity786786 exactly my point
Peter was a commit phobic
I totally understand why Rachel seemed harsh with Peter. I understand why she said manipulation. By the finale she would have watched the interviews, and researched the various contestants and realised that Peter really wanted to be the Bachelor. She allowed herself to develop feelings for a guy who was never there for her. He never intended to propose! He told friends that he was nominated to the show in 2015 (Kaitlyn’s season), admitted that he applied himself in 2016 (Jojo’s season), but ABC finally called him in 2017 (Rachel’s season). Peter does not need any pity. Peter did not lose! He won! His personal training business should get a big boost from his new load of social media followers. ABC has a built in fan base and story line for him “hot, sensitive, reserved salt and pepper model turned personal trainer, walls around his heart, got heartbroken, is full of regret and now believes that love can happen quickly”. He’s got thousands of women across America drooling for him, feeling sorry for him and waiting for the casting call. He is fulfilling his high school dream, “become famous in one way or another, be on the Bachelor”. Quite calculated and well played... perhaps even manipulative. He achieved his true goal!
Monique S lmaooo u re such a good analyst and am here for it.🤗
Monique S so did Rachel go on the show specifically to marry Nick Viall? We all know the contestants are mostly cast before the lead is announced. Most of these contestants go on for self- promotion not love, because they don't know who the freaking lead is and there's 20+ contestants each season they have to compete with. Doesn't all that you're saying apply to Rachel as well. She played the 'reserved' and then became the bachelorette. she might be right or wrong about Peter, I don't know time will tell. but all she has presented is what she said she did herself on Nick Viall's season, so it seems petty and hypocritical for her accuse him of manipulation.
forgottenswtness She was open to Nick by the end. She didn't act as confused as Peter. She opened herself to the idea without so much tooth pulling. But, like you say, time will tell. Peter is definitely one step closer to his real goal.
Monique S I 10000 percent agree w/ you! & this is coming from someone who was a peter fan throughout the season. America (and I) were blind by his handsomeness and the way ppl are defending him is quite ridiculous. It's like yes peter, you're sexy but that doesn't mean you can do no wrong!!
Monique S you know what! a week ago I would have screamed to the high heavens against all what you said but I see it all clearly now. Very clearly. He made sure to be "honest" to her and her parents because he knew exactly why he was there. This all just feels cold and lifeless.
Rachel just settled for Brian. She was in such a rush to get engaged. Then she says, "Brian and I are waiting right now to get married." That's what Peter wanted the whole time. Never settle ladies!
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Them 2 look great together
Idk... The conversation was very cerebral. More like the Bachelorette Briefs than anything.
Peter is old news, he's off leading his non-mediocre life somwhere.
Peter and Brad
Clearly Lauren is a Peter fan of she was in the same situation herself what wud she do settle for guy who does not know the meaning of the word commitment . Peter needs to date 25 year olds who will tolerate his nonsense. A woman of substance does not tolerate such.
I'm a Peter fan but how immature of my fellow fanmates to attack Rachel for picking Bryan instead of Peter. Have you listened to what she said about not wanting to be in a similar relationship as the ones in her past? She had one with another "Peter" guy and they were together for almost 5 years without a ring in it! Girl don't want history to repeat itself, that's not a crime. Just let her be. It's her life, people. Not yours.
Also, there hasn't been a Bachelor/ette moment where an engagement DIDN'T happen but the couple remain happy together (except maybe Juan Pablo, and he got bashed for his choice). I'm sure if Rachel had picked Peter and the engagement didn't happen, people would still be mad about that too. Can't please anybody on this Earth.
I feel like people are not listening to words that are coming out of her mouth. Imagine doing 15 interviews in a day and people asking you the same questions over and over and over; especially in front of your Fiance.
@Izzy Jordan Rachel revealed she fell in love with Bryan at the Fantasy Suite. But my guess is she was hopeful that Peter was going to change his mind and propose to her since their talk in the Alps when he said he will let her know if he's not ready; which is why she didn't send him home sooner.
miiworld2 She only said that to keep peace with Bryan the player
Bravo Rachel! Yeah, I could see the manipulation from Peter when he conveniently told her was falling for her right before meeting her family even though he shared doubts previously. Peter was stringing her along. On the other hand, Bryan not only said he loved her but also showed it by not only the apparent ring, but also by his affection for her.
but Peter even told her family he may not be ready and that made them like him even more for being honest and sensible. I didn't see manipulation I saw honest human emotion happening between them given the nature of the situation they were in and Bryan seemed rehearsed in my opinion. They never had any serious conversations we saw and he always seemed to have the more adrenaline inducing dates and emotions that keep you in bachelorette paradise instead of the real world. Her and Peter talked about him moving for her and real stuff. Her and Bryan have yet to figure that out and I feel it's because she really thought it would be Peter. Bryan knows how to use body language and also figured out Rachel's love language is touch which he could've learned from Nick's season..and Rachel is a lawyer, she reads body language and subliminal messages..I still don't think he's completely genuine, just very experienced for lack of a better word. She isn't terribly a complicated woman. Just my long opinion lol
Bryan's eye roll at 5:28 after she asks another question about Peter... they are both so affected by Peter. I feel like if they were truly in a happy relationship with each other there wouldn't be so much defensive and petty behavior from them
yes! I noticed that!
casey leblanc They look like the CHUMPS that they are.No one is interested in their CHEESY ASSES;they should DISAPPEAR.
Listen people! When you are TRULY happy, no one can dim your light or steal your shine. All you can do is talk about unicorns and rainbows because you are too happy! A happy couple would deflect those answers and say, "Peter was a great guy and we wish him well but we are focused on our future together now." That's all you say and you don't say anything else. All that eye rolling and saying negative things about Peter tells you everything you need to know about their so-called "Happily Every After"....let's just say Peter will end up being right about her mediocre love life. That woman was in love with Peter and Bryan is annoyed and bothered by it. R &B already had a pretty superficial relationship anyway, no way will it last under this kind of pressure...ESPECIALLY if Bryan's mom sees the finale!! LOL
casey leblanc cause they wanna talk about there relationship. They keep popping Peter. Lol the show is over, can they move on from Peter. I'm already annoyed with you Peter minions.
lupita benitez OH MY GOD! Liking comments that equate to how you feel?! Call the pope! Call the police someone! Doesnt he know its so immature to like comments.
How rude is this. with her fiance and asking her about another man in every interview. damn...
I get that they may be tired of the Peter questions but why is she so angry that she's defaming his character. In all her confessions throughout the course of the show she only has great things to say. Now Peter is the worst guy out there? Him telling her her life would be mediocre was very very wrong but that was a highly emotional moment and he apologized graciously but her and Bryan can't seem to stop bashing him. SMH I'm just saying why is she still so angry? Then Bryan has the nerve to say 'who says that' well who calls a woman they're interested in sloppy seconds? I'll tell you what's frustrating, it's watching every interview and seeing them drag this dude through the mud, I mean he's not perfect but no one is. Probably low key defending their relationship because the masses aren't here for Bryan or them as a couple which why do they even care?
But the mediocre comment was true, look who she picked! Mr. Botox he cant get any faker than that!
I totally agree with you, well said. It's a case of sour grapes, but Peter was ready to propose, maybe she was the one one being fake and disingenuous, had to make it good for the camera.Hope she's happy being sloppy seconds. Bryan was not in an emotional state when he said that, he was being his true self.she forgave him so easily for that.
I totally agree with you, well said. It's a case of sour grapes, but Peter was ready to propose, maybe she was the one one being fake and disingenuous, had to make it good for the camera.Hope she's happy being sloppy seconds. Bryan was not in an emotional state when he said that, he was being his true self.she forgave him so easily for that.
ian mohan she wanted everything on HER TERMS...even after he was ready to jump in to save the relationship...and take it from there. Her ego could not stand the fact that he was not 100% ready to marry her..but LOVED her nevertheless. If she really came to break up with him, which she obviously lied about...she should have come and said her peace...but she didn't. She ENGAGED HIM IN HER MANIPULATIVE CONVERSATION of going back to the subject of proposal...love etc...THAT IS WHAT IS MANIPULATIVE FOR A PERSON ALREADY IN LOVE W SOMEONE ELSE, SUPPOSEDLY...ON THE WAY TO BREAKING UP WITH HIM. How stupid does anyone have to be to not understand that. She tried HER UTMOST TILL THE END ...SHE COULDN'T PART FROM HIM...TO GET HER WAY...Talk about MANIPULATION!!
Sana Bashir Peter manipulated the situation to be the next bachelor. That's why she's defaming his character. Don't be a blind Peter fan. I love him too but he was honestly there to achieve his goal of being famous and being a Bachelor.
Wow! People will find any reason to hate on someone. She's entitled to her feelings!!
Rachel gave Peter a chance, she knew what she wanted before saying yes to be the bachelorette, if Peter isn't ready, he should've NOT be there. The lawyer doesn't need a boyfriend, a man & husband. Congratulations to both! Be happy forever. 😘😘😘😘
These interviews are making her so unlikeable...
OneTwoTia soo unlikeable holy shit
Thank you she is literally self-destructing!
OneTwoTia why?
OneTwoTia, Rachel is handling herself very well for an interviewer who persists on focusing on Peter even though Rachel's fiance is right there.
In a world where she is being attacked by most people for making her own decision...she is handling herself well. I would have been like "f&5# everybody and there momma cause its my damn decision". The interviewers are also stirring the pot and what she is saying is true; people are treating Peter like he could do no wrong and he did start the jabs below the belt. She is defending herself and her man from the vultures! If you don't like it then get over it because it is easy to criticize when you aren't in that position.
I also don't want a guy who needs me to cry and debate, analyze feelings, not sure what he wants. Every woman deserves to be with a man who absolutely adores her. Bryan and Rachel - go and make each other happy. Wishing you all the best!
Why can't people respect her decision. It was her's to make. She liked Bryan from the beginning so she wasn't settling. If he is a player, that is her mistake to figure out. Peter was no prize in my opinion. He didn't want what she wanted, and she didn't need to settle for what he was offering. All this outcry over her choice is just plan wrong. It's her's to make. I know that push and pull game that some men play, and yes you may have feelings for them, but that doesn't make them the best man for you. They don't want you when your with them, but do when you move on to someone else. I'm glad she didn't choose him. I think she is better coupled with Bryan. I wish them the best.
Rachel speaking the truth. In some people's eyes, Peter is a god who never does anything wrong. She was right to put him in his place!
Like the interviewer, to start with...
She never called Peter "Manipulative". She said that in their courtship there was some manipulation. To call him manipulative is an indictment of his character and she certainly didn't do that. And it's true, he manipulated by promising the possibility of a future to make to the top 2.
Peter obviously didn't want to be with Rachel and he did lead her on and I think that's why she's pissed because she felt played
Good job Lauren!!!! Way to not shy away from the questions!!
She's a bigoted creep.
Peter is manipulative!! A man that says it’s me or you’ll be mediocre but I don’t want to give you want you want is a manipulator!! I’m glad Rachel saw through that!! He tried to use fear to keep her and Rachel is a direct, nonsense and comfortable with herself to not fall for that. Sadly too many women would fall for peters bs!! Congratulations RnB!!
Well said!!
Rachel is smart and spot on with calling out Peter being manipulative! He would be controlling and manipulative if they would have gotten together. I'm so glad she sent him packing! He never should have never come on the show....go back to his life and date someone for years...why come on a show and then know what Rachel wanted and string her along....he should have left the show if he KNEW at the end that he would not be able to propose especially knowing that is what she was looking for....they were on two different pages! Go Team Bryan and Rachel!
The fact that Peter has so much respect for the institution of marriage makes him a keeper. He told you that he may not propose and gurl you knew. Don't play the victim here. You are the one who manipulated all of us. You are a lawyer you are suppose to know how to settle. Bryan is what happens when you want everything right now and Peter is what you earn when you have patience. Anyway Rachel's ring is the same shape as the tears she's going to cry when she realizes the mistake she made.
Hmmm... This is Peter's 3rd go at the Bachelorette. He told friends that he was nominated to the show in 2015 (Kaitlyn’s season), admitted that he applied himself in 2016 (Jojo’s season), but ABC finally called him in 2017 (Rachel’s season). Why accept the call to be on the show? But, some know why...to get to be the bachelor!
Monique S thats speculation not facts. We all got haters
Tina just because you are on the bachelor or bachelorette doesnt mean you have to get engage. A ring on your finger is not the fundation to build something that have to last for centuries. How many people on the show got engage and broke the engagement. Some of them are almost 4 years engage. Peter is realistic. He loved Rachel. He was in love with her. The emotions proves that he was. There's no reason for her to keep attacking him. Peter will be a great bachelor the first that goes to find real love.
Peter said he had feelings for Rachel on the final episode but not the word "LOVE" that's the red flag people.
Simply, Rachel and Peter had different visions about their future and what marriage means to them. They both seem okay and Rachel looks happy with Brian. I hate how people just get so heated and put them against each other.
Good luck wish you both the best ,for all the ladies who is saying Rachel should choose Peter,stop choosing men that don't want you or want to commit,love is not dramatic,love should is easy .
WTF!!! Peter wasn't forthcoming with his feelings??? He was totally sincere with HER and HIMSELF
She said that last night but here she's saying something totally different. I think Bryan is the manipulator here and Rachel's trying to save face for him. All these questions are natural after such a breakup where she had huge doubts and even questioned getting married so fast herself and if she should slow down or if it was right to be with Bryan. She couldn't even focus on him due to Peter yet, you couldn't imagine your life without him? Give me a break.. This is ridiculous lol why am I so invested!!
No, he definitely was not. He was there for himself, not for Rachel.
Rachael New what she wanted from day 1& All the guys New what they signed up for..... Soo they were all prepared for what they had to do in the End.. But Peter was totally selfish& acting like he as going to call all the shots.... Sorry Mr Peter.... & as I watched them do the push pull thin... I saw what Rachael seen in Peter, that night... Was a very insecure guy who was manipulative to wanting what he wanted& that was it..... Soo Racheal him out on it& what.... Everybody is mad because ...! She is a woman who knew what she wanted all along& she wouldn't, t allow him to play her...... Her & Bryan are awesome together..... Be happy for them... Congrats Rachaelmy ou made an awesome& right decsion❤️😊
I don´t think Peter was using Rachel any way. If he was, why would be upset. I didn´t see him insecure at all. He was real. If you think Peter was selfish so was Rachel. They both wanted things their own way.
Looool why is no one asking her why she wanted two men to propose to her? Why she cried her eyelashes for a man and then jumped at a proposal from another? Bryan was her second choice, and now she's being so rude about Peter (and lying about her feelings for him) what ever makes you sleep at night girl, we're all just here for Peter!
He told you week 7 that he was unsure about marriage but YOU kept him because YOU wanted too. He's not thr one who hands out roses so how is that manipulation? This is so off the wall and sad. Go live your best life and stop talking about Peter.
How awkward this interviewer asking so much about Peter when she's with Brian now lol LIKE HELLO Rachel and Brian have always had a thing
She is definitely defensive and overexplaining the break up with Peter! She still has feelings for him and he with her. But Bryan is growing on me, he's taking all this very well, it has to be tough that so much focus was on Peter
she answering the questions which are all about peter again and again, she wouldnt explain something she doesnt want to talk about stupid
This interviewer was Peter obsessed and downright disrespectful.
DONT BLAME PETER FOR NOT WANTING TO GET ENGAGED AFTER KNOWING A PERSON FOR 8 WEEKS!!!!!!
Mmm well, Peter shouldn't never went on show if he didn't want to get engaged.
True that, but at least he was honest with her about the proposal part.
Good comments. Perhaps Peter shouldn't do the show if not able to deal with very fast, tight timeline for the show. In many cases, 2 months isn't enough time to know someone, fall in love, etc. Timeline could be expanded for doing the show but adds other complications and issues. Wishing the best for Bryan and Rachel's engagement and for Peter's future, personal and professional. May all the bad hard feelings be put away in the past moving forward.
He wanted to go on the bachelor for years. He was playing everyone and yell fell for it!!
Rachel is making no sense when she said Peter led her on and manipulate her?? She had the upper hand, she is suppose to be the smart one. If she knew this why send these other guys home and keep him? She is a big liar.
100000000 percent agree rachel!! peter is the most manipulative person in this planet! he deserves oscar
ABC totally overhyped her ending things with Peter. But Rachel said it well. She was confused because Peter was being manipulative. Also the mediocre life comment he made was something very much a narcissist would say, Good riddance!
I think bachelor universe needs to chill out. Rachel is real, she called Peter out and he didn't like it now all of a sudden no one likes Rachel. I'm sorry but Brian was a front runner since day one. Peter has been questioning their relationship since day one. I feel like it would have been fake if she did pick Peter over Brian, because they never had one bad date or conversation...personally I think Peter is fake...why go on bachelor knowing that the unofficial rule is getting married at the end. If you aren't comfortable with that, then you shouldn't of been on the show in the first place.
I swear, by 7:00 I was like "if she asks one more question about Peter!!!"
Why is Rachel doing that?!?!?...I get the embarrassment and humiliation on Rachels side...for the simple fact, that he possibly played her or just didn't want her like that.....But Girl, you sound so coldhearted, shady and mean towards Peter...and the fact that she is frontin' like she didn't care.. . girl please 😏
You had the power to send him home!!! Girl please. Her attitude on AFTR and here tells me Peter dodged a bullet. Peter won.
Pier Angeli what attitude, the only reason you saying that is because she's a black woman
Rachel do me a favor and take several stadiums of seats, you are just bitter that he couldn't get you that ring. We all know this relationship won't last, you are out here being a lawyer and Brian is out here trying to sell his Merch. That breakup was more passionate than the proposal and you're mad about it. That's it.
JoyKimberlyy Bryans a doctor and Rachel is a lawyer I'm pretty sure they don't need the fame especially Bryan. Peter is the business owner who needs to sell his stuff
JoyKimberlyy very true. I cried when they broke up. I saw the real love
JoyKimberlyy lmaooo tell the truth!
God definitely put Peter in her path to test her priorities. Even mother nature was trying to slap that ring out of Bryan's hands. Good luck to them but....i miss her and peter...i need to listen to some celine dion.
and why is that bad, she wanted a ring so the logical thing to do is to be with a guy who can give her that. you all need to stop crushing over peter and think a little
Yes Rachel was very direct because Peter was the most manipulative, he was not honest.
Peter could not commit. His only job was to commit. He wasn't affectionate. He was standoffish. His mom said he wasn't ready. Then he wanted a girlfriend. Duh. Most couples break up before the wedding anyway. He was being a crabby little princess. I am from Wisconsin he is a classic Wisconsin man.
Unfortunately Rachel comes over as manipulative, instead of Peter which she's accusing. Which is disappointing because now it seems they've both come with the subtle character assassination. Peter has not said anything detrimental about Rachel and now she's coming over as bitchy and unfeeling instead of assertive and forthright. Rachel claims to of seen all these signs that made her doubt Peter, and that he strung her along but kept him until the last two. Peter did not want a confrontation not that he couldn't back up his feelings, and also she can't forgive Peter for saying she'd have a mediocre life but is ok with Bryan saying she his sloppy seconds. Makes me kind of glad she ended up with Bryan
Lauren is just so obsessed with peter 😂😂
I agree with her Peter seems very confused she did the right thing.
Finally, the truth. The best interview!!! Go Rachel and Bryan - Good for you!
YESSSS Alex was my favorite from her season the entire time, I was so sad when he left. I've been saying he should be the Bachelor so I agree !!
Rachel is a super smart woman.Rachel loved Brian and Brian loved Rachel from the beginning. They were perfect for each other.
I want to believe Rachel, but we've never heard about her past relationship(s). If someone reminds you of a bad (and manipulative) ex, you DO NOT keep them for 2 months and make them your final two. At the beginning she calls him manipulative, but at the end calls him genuine. He can't be both. Nice excuse, though. Honestly, if I were Bryan, I would feel cheated on her feelings. He doesn't seem happy anymore and their body language seems off.
THANK YOU RACHEL FOR PICKING A DRAMA FREE STRESS FREE RELATIONSHIP. All the other dumbass women can cry over Peter's emotionally conflicted ulcer causing antics. Love means happiness not pain.
I believe that the manipulation of what she is saying is that Peter would say "Well if you need me to get on one knee to show that i am committed to you then I'll do it". He kept this back and forth of I want you but I dont know if I really want you and that is what she saw as manipulative. Brian has acted like a grown ass man throughout this whole process and even afterwards you dont see him being overtly jealous or misinterpreting the situation with Peter and his woman. He backs her up 100 percent in that situation and doesnt shove guilt or belittlement down her throat after watching all of it like previous winners have done. He deserves respect for that. This was 100 percent the right decision. I have gone through the situations with a man who wasnt sure about what he wanted longterm with me and on the flipside with a man who was forthcoming about what he wanted with me longterm. And that was such a breath of fresh air to be with a man who was able to clearly communicate with me what he wanted instead of doing the bare minimum because he wasnt sure what he wanted. I am happy for Rachel. Let her be happy with Bryan. It is her life and hopefully everything works out!
manipulation is when Rachel said, several times, I might add, that she was looking directly at Peter when she said "I want a proposal", then claims she knew she was going to break up with him when she went to his room. So basically she wanted to manipulate him into proposing to her so she could tell him NO, because already knew she wanted what's his name. So scorned
Bryan trying to be all cool, I don't need somebody to cry for me to show him they love him. What goes around comes around - he'll be crying over somebody someday. Off my soapbox. Good luck - they'll need it. Let's revisit in 6 months
Bryan is such a lovely guy to be married to. I think one of the best in the whole world. He is so so loving and kind and is a gentlemen. No swearing ever has come out of his mouth. Just adorable. Rachel must be the best to have him. It's her heart.
He was stringing you along??? If I remember correctly, YOUR the one with the roses. If you felt so strongly that your relationship with Bryan was the stronger one, then why didn't you get rid of Peter in Geneva when he said he had doubts about proposing? Considering you dropped all these other guys who would've loved to propose to you... cough cough Eric
bryan: yeah who says that
says the guy who called rachel sloppy seconds
Okay, this is the last time I comment about this lol, but "string you along???" You said you knew he wasn't the one in Geneva, but kept him anyway. Peter is far from manipulative, girl. I think the manipulation shoe was on your foot, Rach. Ugghhh, this show and my emotionsss...okay, rant over.
You are so right
I agreeeeeee!!
Many Moon mmm, no. I think Peter was very clear about his feelings for Rachel and his feelings on marriage. And vice versa. The ball was completely in Rachel's court to send him home. Peter needed time, that's why he chose to stay. I don't think that's manipulation. I think that's vulnerability and optimism for something greater that can't be explained through camera lenses.
It's like, when you love someone and picture a perfect life together, but you know you can't rush into making that happen because it may fail. Rachel clearly stated she was not going to act on practicality, but rather act on emotion. Bryan had more romance and Peter had more logic
Put was not showI ng any signs of that crop you mention up there. If that is the case Rachel Is Smart and knew already that Bryan was it why the heck did she go on with him like that. She is the one who manipulated the situation because she knows what she was about to do.
Lauren, Zima, being that this interview focused more on Peter than the man Bryan standing infront of you with his fiance, are you going to interview Peter on his Reality Steve's podcast on what Brittnay had to say? The majority of you wanted Rachel to fall for the scammer. It show's the woman who was in the show knew what she was doing. Great job Rachel
a five year relationship is not the same as a two month relationship
Olivia Ellis YES
Rachel was being manipulated by Peter and I'm glad she finally saw it. The day Peter made the comment to Rachel that he never seeks her out, but glad that she's around my flags went up on that guy. His lack of effort was a major issue for me and a warning that something was off. As the episodes unfolded week after week, Peter showed unstable emotional behaviors and head games with Rachel. Pulled her in to only push her back not caring how it affected her.
As for the Peter fans, they were never there for Rachel. They're infatuated with Peter's looks and think he can do no wrong despite his hidden agenda in trying to be the next Bachelor. Rachel might not want to say it, but something tells me she's figured this bs out and just doesn't want to go all in on Peter since his fans are calling her names over this contestant who was acting like he was the Bachelor and Rachel should be chasing him.
Since day one, Bryan was the best man for Rachel. I hope they block out the negative crap from the Peter fans and just work on building a strong relationship. Wish them all the best.
But that's not manipulation! Rachel has ALWAYS knew where Peter has stood. She had multiple opportunities to send him home.
LAUREN I know you love Peter but too many questions about him !! There should have been more about Bryan and Rachel
Why?
Yes Peter did reiterated that he could not propose that soon but he also reiterated that he did not want to loose her or give up on her. What was that?
She should have just sent him home on the first night she could have spared herself so much pain and humiliation
Jordan G. That's exactly what I have been saying for over two months now
Yeah, he was the Producer's pick, and if she wants Bryan, she has to play the game until the finale. This is a show, and story lines has to be developed until the end. But, ABC strewed Rachel, by mudding the water for her rose ceremony. They always give Peter the leg up.
Jordan G. What do you mean by 'on board' Peter always said he wouldn't propose until he was ready and if it didn't fit the timeline of the show then so be it. Ya'll are just trying to make Bryan happen, he's never gonna happen.
I thought she should have left him once he stated his relationship with his ex. That was a huge red flag.
I would've have kept him till the finale too with those kind of kisses. Lets all be honest, Peter was by far the best kisser in that group from what we saw. U could tell by how Rach was distant to Bryan after the fantasy suite.
Watching this in 2022 and LOVE Rachel & Bryan. I was big Peter fan but this worked out the way it was supposed to! ❤❤ ❤
Rachel is exactly correct with Peter's emotional manipulation and him giving her just enough to keep her hanging on. That's exactly what my mom and I said watching the finale. Bryan is awesome and I wish them both the best!
Dammit Rachel played herself because if that was the case she should have sent him home the first time he mentioned it!! Her disparaging him is so unnecessary! She said the break up showed the true essence of Peter, no it should the true essence of Rachel because was a complete Bitch to those guys lastnight!! This interview confirms it!!
Rey S. ,um she could of been a little more ginger towards Peter,but as far as Eric,she was fine towards him.And,you're not in her shoes,soo why you judging?She picked who she wanted,that doesn't make her any more of a bitch than you one for judging her.
So true.
I agree with your comment Rey... she knew since Geneva and claims she fell in love with Bryan during her hometown date, well if that was the slightest bit of truth, she should've let go of Peter either in Geneva, knowing that he wants to purse a relationship after the show, or in Texas, knowing that her heart was with someone else. If anyone was disingenuine,anipulative and indecisive, it was definitely her.
How can you call Peter manipulative? He was very transparent about his feelings about marriage and why he wouldn't propose. I agree with Rachel that the show was probably a bad idea if that was his mentality, but if you look at the bachelor series couples success rate, it's pretty horrible and large reason is that they rush into these engagements without actually knowing how the relationship will work in the real world. So I think Peter was sensible in his mindset.